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TRG
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Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
I'm going a little nuts here. First off I'm a newbie. But I hold a degree in electronics technologies and have been working with electronics and mechanics (robotics to be specific) for 17 years.


After painstaking research I decided that my first FTA receiver needed PVR capabilities. Despite the Viewsat VS PRO's lack of history I decided I'd give it a try. I also bought a Azure 90 cm dish from 3ABN, Invacom QPH-031 LNBF and a SG-2100 motor.


My plan was to set up a temporary platform for the dish so I could move it to a few different locations on my property. With a good view to the south I set the dish in location #1, plumbed the pole, zeroed the motor and pointed it true south. I then set up my linear connection (DiSEqC port 1) to 10750 MHz and the circular connection (DiSEqC port 2) to 11250 MHz. My true south satellite is Anik F1R at 107.3. I wasn't able to find that but a close by DBS bird at 110 had the meters just about pegged on signal and quality. BTW my S and Q meters appear to be backwards. On my receiver when scanning the sky the quality comes up with zero signal until the quality meter hits around 50 or so and then the signal starts to come up. Weird. Anyway no matter what I do I cannot get any signal on the linear Ku sats. I can get DBS sats @ 91, 101, 110, 119 and 148. Now I know that DBS signals will be much greater than the linear signals but you'd think that I would be able to get something on linear. I've tried moving the EL on the dish (not the motor) + and – about 4 degrees in ½ degree increments, still nothing. Either the setting of 10750 Mhz for this LNBF is wrong or I suppose the LNBF could be bad on L and only C works?


Another thing that I'm a little confused about is USALS vs DiSEqC 1.2. Perhaps someone here can describe the pros and cons of each method. I was under the impression that I could set up one sat close to true south and the receiver would know where the rest were. But I think I'm missing something.


And finally when I was ready to call it quits my motor quit working and was causing the receiver to reboot. I had been working the motor a good part of the day so I hope either the motor or the motor controller just needed to cool off a little. I have my fingers crossed.


Thanks in advance for any tips you might be able to throw my way. I'm going to take a break from this till tomorrow.
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turbosat
TRG, join the crowd! I bought a Viewsat Ultra last fall when they hadn't been out long, thinking it was the one with the best processor and memory etc.
Most of it works fine, but the AC-3 sound pass-thru NEVER worked properly.
I called those folks many times over the next 5 months or so, and they never did fix it. Kept telling me a firmware upgrade would be 'out soon' and "next week at latest" etc.
They had other markets in mind, apparently. Read about their lawsuit if you haven't already. My next one won't be a viewsat.
TRG
TRG
TRG, join the crowd! I bought a Viewsat Ultra last fall when they hadn't been out long, thinking it was the one with the best processor and memory etc.
Most of it works fine, but the AC-3 sound pass-thru NEVER worked properly.​
I called those folks many times over the next 5 months or so, and they never did fix it. Kept telling me a firmware upgrade would be 'out soon' and "next week at latest" etc.​
They had other markets in mind, apparently. Read about their lawsuit if you haven't already. My next one won't be a viewsat.​
What's frustrating is that I'm new to this and I thought it was me not understanding something. I've learned a ton of things from this experience but I can't honestly say it was pleasant.​

I'm waiting to hear back from the dealer I bought it from. I listed my problems and asked if anybody else is reporting the same issues. Luckily for me he has a 30 day customer satisfaction guarantee. I'll probably buy a coolsat or pansat unit from him. I originally had my eye on a Pansat 3500SD I should have stayed with. I can live without PVR for a while.​
Anole
The guys seem to like their Pansat 3500sd's
Based on the good will here, I'd get one in a heartbeat, if I needed it.

But, if you're PVR-happy, did you read the reviews and comments here about the Visionsat IV200?
Might cost even less than the unit you've got.
Seemed -pretty- bug free at introduction, and just getting the last little insects eradicated right now. :cool:
Could be worth your attention if you've had it with your current receiver.
TRG
TRG
The guys seem to like their Pansat 3500sd's
Based on the good will here, I'd get one in a heartbeat, if I needed it.

But, if you're PVR-happy, did you read the reviews and comments here about the Visionsat IV200?
Might cost even less than the unit you've got.
Seemed -pretty- bug free at introduction, and just getting the last little insects eradicated right now. :cool:
Could be worth your attention if you've had it with your current receiver.

I would have purchased the Visionsat IV200 if it had a rear facing USB port. It's a WAF thing.

It seems like PVR for FTA is in it's infancy here in North America. It's been around in Europe for quite a while. I was in Ireland a couple of years ago and most houses had at least one satellite dish and a yagi style UHF antenna for digital OTA. Some of the "lads" I was working with invited me over for supper and would display their satellite fed flat panel TV's proudly. Most of them sported PVR. That was in 2005.

Anyway I'm still waiting to see if this dealer makes good on the 30 day satisfaction guarantee. If not I might just keep it and hope that future firmware releases will correct the problems I'm seeing.

The funny thing is that I broke one of my cardinal rules with the purchase of this receiver. NEVER NEVER NEVER buy something when it first comes out. Shame on me.:o
Anole
I would have purchased the Visionsat IV200 if it had a rear facing USB port. It's a WAF thing.
I remember you !
I think we already had this discussion.

And now that it's costing you time, money, and anguish, you -really- don't want to know what I think! :eek:

NEVER NEVER NEVER buy something when it first comes out.
If you must, at least get a reading on it from the SatGuy's reviews.
And if necessary, ask about getting a unit sent to Iceberg for a look-see. :cool:
TRG
TRG
UPDATE 10/2/07

Well everything is up and working except for the blind scan. It appears that most of the bugs in the Viewsat VS PRO are in the installation menus. Now that it's up and running it's changing channels and moving to my 12 preset satellites flawlessly. PBS dolby digital through my Harmon Kardon home theater receiver sounds great too! I watched an episode of "The War" last night and was pretty impressed. The only thing I didn't try yet is the PVR functions. I have an 80 Gb Western Digital external USB drive I need to clear and try out. I'll let you know how that works out this weekend.​

Thanks for all the help guys. You're the best.​
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
I haven't posted in almost 17 years. Over the air, sat, offline, anything-but-the-internet is still one of my avid pursuits. Been playing with offline tv viewing and offline web browsing. I have great appreciations for this site still being here. It's so hard to find public communities that haven't sold out to social media company.
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dishstaller
Got to admit, I had to look up "offline web browsing". I had never heard of it.
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Scott Greczkowski
Welcome back, as you can see we branched off into a bunch of things since Satellite is what it is now, so lots to talk about here. :)
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Jimbo
Got to admit, I had to look up "offline web browsing". I had never heard of it.
From what I understand, it's just saving a article or whatever, to Save it so you can read it later ....
Unless he's talking something entirely different ... the way I am looking at it, you Still need the Internet to load it originally.
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dishstaller
the way I am looking at it, you Still need the Internet to load it originally.
That was kinda the way I understood it as well.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Harden My HEART-Quarterflash
ClarkGable
My Heart Will Go On - Celine Dion
Bobby
This Should Go On Forever - Rod Bernard
long_time_Dish
Go On Cry - Heart
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Let Her Cry - Hootie & the Blowfish
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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dishstaller
My Wife was recently in an antique store and saw a rotary desk phone and it had one of those sticker overlays that had a business listed with phone number under each number on the dial. She looked closer and it had my old Radio Shack listed under the 8...she bought it. Pretty cool keepsake. Back then I rented vhs movies as well so I had it listed as Radio Shack / Movie Gallery and then the phone number.
Almighty1
I remember this in the news too...

Bobby
I remember this in the news too...

That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
HIFI
2.webp
2.webp
anybody remember this disaster ?
SuperDish_Fan23
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff
Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
​
National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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jamieh1
Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Luckily my DTV stream package doesn't have a rsn fee. Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.
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K
Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Greenville-New Bern is $11.99 for MASN (Orioles) and Nationals
Raleigh is $11.99 for MASN and Nationals
Charlotte is $12.99 for BravesVision, MASN, Nationals and Reds

The fee in NC also includes the higher in state rate they have to pay for ACCN. Down in SC the fee is $15.99 as they are also a SEC state.
I'm not sure if they're doing it with those teams, but in some markets they also use the fee to cover the additional cost they have to pay for independents and MyNet stations that picked up full season NHL and NBA rights.

If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2

Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.
Part of the hold out might be the packaging and price for outer areas like how the Thunder needs sports pack for other states. Hopefully they are also pushing for a guarantee from the teams that they would require whoever wins their local broadcasting rights in 2028 to negotiate with MVPDs. Commercial distribution rights are probably a factor too.

I'm guessing they got a deep discount for the Clippers based on how long it took them to officially announce ClipperVision and their KTLA simulcasts after they were basically handed a multi-year draft death penalty.

The Predators and Pistons channels are using feeds supplied by Scripps Sports

The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.
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cp2k
If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2

I tried this with both the Hurricanes and Hornets since I'm in upstate SC, and wasn't offered any kind of credit by the site. It's not a huge deal to me as I can pick up WSOC/WAXN over the air at my location even though I'm outside the Charlotte market.
TheRatPatrol
I thought the NBA TV contracts were short term as the NBA is trying to get all of the teams into in an all in one streaming app?
K
649 GRZLLIES and 671 PACERS are now available.

The rest are still pointing to the TV Promise slate
K
660 CAVLIERS, 668 TWOLVES and 680 SPURS are now available
coolman302003
649 GRZLLIES and 671 PACERS are now available.
660 CAVLIERS, 668 TWOLVES and 680 SPURS are now available
One thing in common among these 5 teams is they all signed exclusive local streaming rights with DAZN (replacing traditional regional sports networks previously).

I know the Spurs are going to have 22 games OTA on (KMYS-TV CW35) in SA market but they will also still be on DAZN so a simulcast not exclusive to CW35 but in addition. So we should get all the Spurs feeds on NBA LP via the channel 680 remap.
Tom Speer
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Cutting Edge Information
In order to participate in any Cutting Edge testing, you must sign a Non Disclosure Agreement (NDA). Attached are a .docx (Microsoft Word) and PDF version of the latest DirecTV NDA. I found it easiest to complete the .docx version then paste a photo or scan image of my signature, cropped closely to just the signature into it as a picture. Then set Word to wrap text around the picture so that the picture follows the text "Signature".

People who have better PDF tools than I do may prefer that version.

When you apply for any Cutting Edge testing, you will be told how to send the signed copy.
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Tom Speer
Any NDA you have signed before is still valid for the testing you have been and hopefull still are doing. The new NDA forms are ror new CE testers and new categories of CE testing. They have been placed here so that people who volunteer for any CE testing have access to them.
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
This was actually one of the more disturbing videos I've seen on this channel. IF this guy hadn't been driving a Tesla which has 360 degree cams, he would probably become a felon and had his life ruined.....all because of a lying cop. The other officers in this video didn't impress me too much either, their whole mentality was how can we nail this guy.
This is a perfect example of why I'm always a bit nervous when I get below Perry, FL. There is a huge difference between north and south Florida and everyone who lives here knows this.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4Q8q0KQQ14
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Bruce
This was actually one of the more disturbing videos I've seen on this channel. IF this guy hadn't been driving a Tesla which has 360 degree cams, he would probably become a felon and had his life ruined.....all because of a lying cop. The other officers in this video didn't impress me too much either, their whole mentality was how can we nail this guy.
This is a perfect example of why I'm always a bit nervous when I get below Perry, FL. There is a huge difference between north and south Florida and everyone who lives here knows this.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4Q8q0KQQ14

Central is not any better, Polk County still does not have body cams.
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Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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Jimbo
But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

Q.
Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
b4pjoe
But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

Q.
Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
But they are basically airing a number of live channels just like Broadcast, Cable, and Others so that is why they are counted that way.
Bruce
But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

Q.
Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
Same.

Ratings for streaming content is extremely accurate, since the service knows who is watching what and when, when we hit ok on our remotes.

Ratings for Broadcast/Cable shows has always been a estimate.
Jimbo
Same.

Ratings for streaming content is extremely accurate, since the service knows who is watching what and when, when we hit ok on our remotes.

Ratings for Broadcast/Cable shows has always been a estimate.
If I flip thru shows on an app, 3-4 in a few minutes, does that still show that I watched the whole episode ?


If I watch the Super Bowl for 5 minutes, does that count as watching the Super Bowl ?
Is it the same if I just watched the Commercials.
Bruce
If I flip thru shows on an app, 3-4 in a few minutes, does that still show that I watched the whole episode ?


If I watch the Super Bowl for 5 minutes, does that count as watching the Super Bowl ?
Is it the same if I just watched the Commercials.
Nielsen Streaming Ratings: Third-party measurement firm Nielsen tracks U.S. streaming viewership, releasing weekly reports that measure total minutes viewed across major television sets, broken down by program (such as original, acquired, and movie content) rather than minute-by-minute audience retention curves.
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Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Bobby
CFB, Indiana at Michigan, Saturday 10-24, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, BYU at UCF, Saturday 10-24, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
Bobby
MLB, Rays at Brewers, Friday 10-23, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Rays at Brewers, Saturday 10-24, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Brewers at Rays, Monday 10-26, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Brewers at Rays, Tuesday 10-27, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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