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I am new to this. I am trying to install a motorized system. I keep getting 85% level but zero quality. Please Help. This is what I have and what I am doing.

I have a Vission Sat IV2000 receiver, GEOSATpro 90 cm dish, GEOSATpro GS120 motor and a GEOSATpro Universal Ku-Band LNBF GSL1u- Bullet.

My location is 36.61N, 119.44 W. I entered my coordinates on the GeoSatFinder website and it gave me this Satellite to point to: 119W with compass reading 165.1 and dish elevation 47.5. I looked up the frequencies on lyngsat.com and picked a 12268 L tp4 with SR FEC 2000. However I couldn't find SR FEC 2000 in my receiver. So I selected another satellite. I chose 101W.

To set up my dish I first mounted the motor and dish on a vertical post. I pointed it south by eye balling it to south with the help of a compass (166 deg) and taking into account magnetic deviation. I installed the LNBF with 0 rotation and connected the cables. I rotated the motor mount to latitude 36 and dish angle setting 24, as per the instructions in the motor manual.

On the receiver I selected satellite: 101W, frequency: 12120 M 30000 [V], LNB power: On, LNB type: universal, DisSEqC 1.0: off, DisSEqC 1.1: off, Legacy SW: off, Positioner: USALS, Dish Longitude: 119.4, Dish Latitude: 036.6 Then I selected Go To and the motor moved for a while and then stopped. I got 85% level but zero quality!

Knowing that my compass reading should be 136.7 and elevation 43.3 I moved the dish up / down and side to side in small increments while watching the TV screen to see any indication of quality but I got nothing. So far I've spent a number of days and many hours but whatever I do I get zero quality signal! I did a blind scan but it took a very long time with no results. I also did another blind scan with manual frequency range from 10700-12900 and it still took a very long time with no results.

I have a clear view of the southern sky with some trees on either side. But my line of sight to where I think the satellite is located is clear.

If you have any ideas of what I should do please let me know. Your input would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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welcome :wave

I am new to this. I am trying to install a motorized system. I keep getting 85% level but zero quality. Please Help. This is what I have and what I am doing.
we'll try our best :)

I have a Vission Sat IV2000 receiver, GEOSATpro 90 cm dish, GEOSATpro GS120 motor and a GEOSATpro Universal Ku-Band LNBF GSL1u- Bullet.
nice choice of receiver. Have one and love it. I would highly suggest updating the software from the manufacturer's website first. It will solve some bugs in the box...I posted the file below


My location is 36.61N, 119.44 W. I entered my coordinates on the GeoSatFinder website and it gave me this Satellite to point to: 119W with compass reading 165.1 and dish elevation 47.5. I looked up the frequencies on lyngsat.com and picked a 12268 L tp4 with SR FEC 2000. However I couldn't find SR FEC 2000 in my receiver. So I selected another satellite. I chose 101W.
The issue here is your true south is a DBS satellite yet the LNB is not. So we have a problem. We need to use a linear satellite. Since the nearest is 121 we'll use that. Make sure the motor is back at zero before we start.

On the receiver I selected satellite: 101W, frequency: 12120 M 30000 [V], LNB power: On, LNB type: universal, DisSEqC 1.0: off, DisSEqC 1.1: off, Legacy SW: off, Positioner: USALS, Dish Longitude: 119.4, Dish Latitude: 036.6 Then I selected Go To and the motor moved for a while and then stopped. I got 85% level but zero quality!
On the receiver select Echo9 at 121 degrees west. Frequency if its listed use this
12074 frequency
V polarity
20000 symbol rate

LNB power ON
LNB type UNIVERSAL
Diseqc 1.0 OFF
Diseqc 1.1 OFF
Legacy Sw OFF
Positioner USALS

save and go into positioner settings. It should show
Satellite Echo9 at 121.0W
Frequency 12074
Positioner USALS
Change Dish Longitude & Latitude to YOUR latitude & longitude and select "go to" press OK...the motor will move to where 121 would be on the motor. Then physically move the whole dish assembly/motor to lock in on 121.

Knowing that my compass reading should be 136.7 and elevation 43.3 I moved the dish up / down and side to side in small increments while watching the TV screen to see any indication of quality but I got nothing. So far I've spent a number of days and many hours but whatever I do I get zero quality signal! I did a blind scan but it took a very long time with no results. I also did another blind scan with manual frequency range from 10700-12900 and it still took a very long time with no results.

for the true south (or in this case near true south) compass reading should be 168ish. Elevation on the motor so be the same as your latitude (36-37) and dish elevation should only be (now here is where it gets confusing since I dont know what that motor matches up against. The manual should say what the dish should be at......the motor looks like my SG2100 which if that is the case dish should be at 24 elevation....30-declination angle which for your area is 5.77). Hopefully someone with that motor can chime in

It sounds like the dish is pointed too high. Also signal strngth will show as long as there is power to the LNB. Its quality that matters :)

Good luck and hopefully it was something minor :)
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OK, I did what you suggested Iceberg and selected Echo9 at 121W but I still got nothing. The manual for the motor says 24 elevation for my latitude position (just like you said).

I've read your replies on other forums about the LNB being not the source of the problem 99% of the time but I am wondering could mine be that 1% and be defective!? Thanks for your help.
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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All I Need is a Miracle - Mike + The Mechanics
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Sweet Miracle - Rush
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I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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MikeD-C05
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH and then if you can't see the western arc you go with streaming versions and then they could keep customers if they had good internet speeds. I mean Sling TV could be changed to Streaming DISH TV if they wanted since both companies are under Echostar. Then you would still be able to use your ota antenna with Air TV devices like I do with Air TV Anywhere with 4 ota tuners.
Scott Greczkowski
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH
I have the same wish.
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I have the same wish.
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
Scott Greczkowski
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
They keep the satellite service too. But have. Full streaming version of dish. As sling tv sucks eggs.
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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
He does not have the resources aka $$$ compared to Elon Musk as in reality, Elon can eat Charlie for lunch or even mop the floor with Charlie if he wanted to.
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ment to 20 yrs dam phone
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Dish should use both satellite and internet like they do now for all channels. Use either or or both.... like now but subscribers could choose something like internet only, or sat only, or both.
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Dish should use both satellite and internet like they do now for all channels. Use either or or both.... like now but subscribers could choose something like internet only, or sat only, or both.
They have sling tv wich sucks ass it needs a major upgrade
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They keep the satellite service too. But have. Full streaming version of dish. As sling tv sucks eggs.
can you DVR every channel now or is still only certain ones you can DVR
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RIP dude. Always liked his music. He was 83


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH5Arbm47IQ
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R.I.P.
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R.I.P.
Foxbat
Rest in Peace…
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R.I.P. …
Ramy
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
Jimbo
You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
No, I was actually referring to outside of the Top 8, but should have been Top 12 ...

I guess I should have looked at the bracket from last year first ...

I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .
Ronnie-
I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
AZ.
AZ.
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
Yep, wonder why we rank the top 25 in 2 poles still? Do the ranking change much if they are unranked or have many loses? They sure do, any given day never take your opponent as a cake walk.....
Jimbo
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time ....however .
You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

They are trying to make this Basketball and its a far cry from the way that is played.

How long till they go to 32 teams ? Then they will say, well, the NFL is 32 teams, we can make more money that way .... except the NFL is 32 teams, that are a set number of teams and divisions, you don't have that in College ... oh but they will try.

They would have to choose what teams they would want in and thats it.
Hopefully that NEVER happens.

I can see the NCAA going away and the CFP taking that portion over and a Collective Bargaining agreement coming in the not to distant future.
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The problem with rankings and playoffs is that they are designed to hype the game and make money. Period.

The only reason that BYU and Texas Tech were upsets is that they were hyped up in the standings in the first place. I love watching BYU and Bear Bachmeier. They are a fun and talented team, but not nearly so strong, fast, big, and skilled as a true top ten team. Does anyone truly believe they could compete with the likes of Georgia, Ohio State, Indiana, Alabama, etc.? Yet, they were ranked above those teams.

Each year, there are 10 to 12 teams who truly could compete for the championship if it depended on winning more than one game in a playoff. Including teams like James Madison, Tulane, BYU, etc. in a playoff has nothing to do with determining a national champion. It's just about money.
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Ronnie-
Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time
Yes. As shown in a few posts now.


You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

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But that wasn't what your stated argument was though.


I mean if you drag it out, no team even a favorite is gonna win every game 20 weeks in a row.


With the parity in college football now, who knows who can beat anyone at any given time?

This season and last have shown it might not be the ones we think that might win it all that will win it all.
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Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
Mister B
What bothers me is the total waste of broadcasting spectrum in this very crowded market. It has been almost three years now since KFOX converted their broadcast tower to ATSC 3.0 and moved all of their channels to other towers causing noticeable degradation of the picture quality.
I have a Sony TV with 3.0 capabilities but still use the 1.0 version of locals due to the fact that one or all of the 3.0 channels are often missing or unwatchable. In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.
The only thing that could motivate me to be interested in 3.0 would be if all of the minor networks (diginets) could be in at least 720P rather than blurry ultra-compressed 480i.
Three years is long enough to waste one of the few available RF frequencies in the area for this trial.
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.
navychop
In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.

They might notice the hand going into their pocket for their wallet.
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navychop
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.

QFT. Of course, my preference involves a curb and some kicking.
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It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
WHAT ABOUT THE INTERNET PART OF IT. NO ONE WANTS A BOX CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET EITHER.
navychop
Cough, cough. COVID vaccine implants.

:oldlaugh
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Cough, cough. COVID vaccine implants.

:oldlaugh
That would be handy. Download the latest RNA snippets that can be updated over 5G and no more shots! You're a Genius!
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R.I.P.
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My Mom was a huge McMillan & Wife fan.

RIP
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Mcmillan and wife was where I remember her from, R.I.P. ...
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R.I.P.
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Rest in Peace… I had forgotten she was Kate in "Kate and Allie", teamed with Jane Curtin.
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
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But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
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IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
​

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00 :oops:. can we say over priced garbage!!!
harshness
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
comfortably_numb
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.

Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
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