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David

Last reply Oct 27, 2007 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Anyone else surprised?

I was reading Friday's USA Today and every few sections had at least one (sometimes 2 or 3) full page ads for Direct TV's leading HD offerings. I am surprised that we haven't seen a quick counterstrike by Dish. There haven't been any new HD channel offerings from E* for awhile. At least you would think that you would hear about rumors of impending additions. It is amazing to me that Fox Business Channel isn't on yet. You would think that any channel would want to have as many viewers as possible upon it's launch. It is a business after all...

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kovach

Oct 23, 2007

Dish had a nice big color ad countering D*'s claims today in the same newspaper!

P9 of the Sports section (some excerpts from the ad):

"Dish Network has the best sports and movies in HD with an HD DVR that's better than TiVo and DirecTV's. If you want HD, you need Dish Network."

"Most national HD channels"
"75 channels, leading the industry in HD"

"Best HD DVR on the planet"
"Better than TiVo (CNET 3/10/07)
"DirecTV HD DVR is "mediocre" (Average user rating on CNET.com as of 10/18/07)

BigTimMN

Oct 23, 2007

Alot of the channels in the big rollout were already on Dish... we are missing some, but considering the build up we had in July, Aug and Sept prior to D*, we have had more HD for a longer period of time... but if nothing happens before the end of the year or in the least a concrete plan (i.e. Sat launched) and dates of additions... they will be in some serious trouble, esp with the difference in the on-demand services on top of the HD.

WilliamC

Oct 25, 2007

BigTimMN said:
Alot of the channels in the big rollout were already on Dish... we are missing some, but considering the build up we had in July, Aug and Sept prior to D*, we have had more HD for a longer period of time... but if nothing happens before the end of the year or in the least a concrete plan (i.e. Sat launched) and dates of additions... they will be in some serious trouble, esp with the difference in the on-demand services on top of the HD.

Not to mention the fact that from some user reports it seems D* HD looks better than E*'s. For some that may play a larger role than anything. I know for me when I moved to E* it was because they had better PQ on HD channels. This has been changing for the worse in the last couple of months.

DishSubLA

Oct 26, 2007

David said:
I was reading Friday's USA Today and every few sections had at least one (sometimes 2 or 3) full page ads for Direct TV's leading HD offerings. I am surprised that we haven't seen a quick counterstrike by Dish. There haven't been any new HD channel offerings from E* for awhile. At least you would think that you would hear about rumors of impending additions. It is amazing to me that Fox Business Channel isn't on yet. You would think that any channel would want to have as many viewers as possible upon it's launch. It is a business after all...

Echostar is a relatively small company--Direct TV is a much a larger company. Dish just doesn't have the deep pockets for the kind of hugely expensive ads that Direct or some of the largest cable companies roll out. This is the very reason why it is rumored that Dish may be for sale. Ergan has always acknowledged Dish's disadvantage of not being a conglomerate complete media company with ownership of several channels and the mega-$$$$ that come with it for flashy ads and what not. A few years ago Ergan statetd that he could continue to operate Dish as an independant for "a few more years." Those "few more years" have now arrived. We will see something happen at Dish very soon. Or, as Ergan himself put it: "Either I write a big check [buy a big media company] or someone writes me a check [he sells Dish], and I'm down the road."

We shall lament Charlie's absence and his deals for upgrades and access to the "Executive Offices" for smart CSR's who have saved the day. Let's hope Chuck manages to stay on board.

TNGTony

Oct 26, 2007

Ever since its inception people have been saying Dish is "ripe for a buy-out". The first in line was Rupert Murdoch back in 1997. Thanks to his fumbling the deal Dish ended up with his satellite location at 110 along with two satellites and 29 transponder licenses!

In early 1997 when I first started looking at satellite services and Dish's top tier was $25 a month with a whopping 50 channels there were people constantly posting "tic-toc" on a.d.e. (usenet- before any of the discussion boards) as a timer when Dish was going to go under or be sold out for exactly the same reasons listed above. Over a decade later, I am still waiting.

In the mean time DirecTV, the big conglomerate that has deep pockets has changed hands TWICE! (Okay 1 and a half)

Like a bad Dragnet episode, the names have changed but the story is the same. So instead of NewsCorp, it's now AT&T (for the third time in 5 years).

As to the HD channel count, it is being disputed in many other threads and there are pretty difinitive lists available there. NEITHER Dish nor DirecTV have a monopoly on all the HD channels. Yes DirecTV launched a ton of HD channels recently. Dish launced a ton of HD channel BEFORE DirecTV did. Now, they have about the same number. DirecTV has CNBC HD which has zero HD content, just 16x9sd with the 4x3 pix of the regular CNBC channel on one side and some ticker info on the "extra" space. Dish has Voom!

See ya
Tony

Tyralak

Oct 27, 2007

kovach said:
Dish had a nice big color ad countering D*'s claims today in the same newspaper!

P9 of the Sports section (some excerpts from the ad):

"Dish Network has the best sports and movies in HD with an HD DVR that's better than TiVo and DirecTV's. If you want HD, you need Dish Network."

"Most national HD channels"
"75 channels, leading the industry in HD"

"Best HD DVR on the planet"
"Better than TiVo (CNET 3/10/07)
"DirecTV HD DVR is "mediocre" (Average user rating on CNET.com as of 10/18/07)

How in the hell is E* figuring they have 75 HD channels?

dfergie

Oct 27, 2007

I started with BUD(80's pre vc II)... then DirecTv(96)... then Dish, (01)kept progamming with Directv for distants, migrated mostly to Dish. I have not seen the need to upgrade my DirecTv recievers yet as with Dish net and the HDD archiving I can't catch up... when BSG comes around next spring or so on ScifiHD and IF dish doesn't have It, I will upgrade to the Directv mpeg4 receivers... however right now no commitments to either so it could change in a heartrbeat

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 6 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

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Juan

Today at 11:17 AM

dishstaller said:
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price

dishstaller

Today at 11:47 AM

Juan said:
When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...

Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.

b4pjoe

Today at 12:41 PM

Meat with a bone in it. It contributes to the weight.

harshness

Today at 12:57 PM

b4pjoe said:
Meat with a bone in it. It contributes to the weight.

Bone-in is a well-known and often prized attribute. Adding the tray and the film isn't right.

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Juan

50 minutes ago

dishstaller said:
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.

You are paying for the whole thing

telstar_1

6 minutes ago

Juan said:
You are paying for the whole thing

Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.

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Former member 209992

Last reply 19 minutes ago · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Site is slooooow

For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.

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navychop

Saturday at 3:39 PM

Nature will develop better idiots.

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TRG

Saturday at 4:19 PM

navychop said:
Nature will develop better idiots.

God help us.

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Scott Greczkowski

Monday at 11:15 AM

I guess this is what the downtime was about.

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Scott Greczkowski

Today at 11:18 AM

Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)

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Foxbat

20 minutes ago

I saw that, wasn't sure if PHP was employed by XenForo or not.

PHP warns it plans to release 2 emergency patches imminently

Unconfirmed report claims PHP2Shell exploit remotely executes code on PHP sites.

arstechnica.com

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Scott Greczkowski

19 minutes ago

Yup thats what xenforo is written in, php.

But all patched now.

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SuperDish_Fan23

Last reply 54 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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HipKat

Monday at 8:55 AM

I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.

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telstar_1

Monday at 1:22 PM

HipKat said:
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.

I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.

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Nominal

Monday at 4:30 PM

telstar_1 said:
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.

You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.

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dishdude

Monday at 5:05 PM

I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.

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MikeD-C05

Today at 1:10 PM

dishdude said:
I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.

I had both the 921 and the 922. I used to buy them from DishDepot.com in Florida and trade in my older owned receiver towards the newest receiver. The 921 was a reboot receiver and the sling part was hit or miss. I look back on all those receivers I paid for over 25 years and I think it was just TV. If I had that money back now I would be lot richer. My Owned Hopper 3 is sitting in a drawer in my office not being used.

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telstar_1

54 minutes ago

That was part of the Ergen scheme, to sell the product as well as the service. And who didn't want the best box?

Maybe they went to the hopper because they were running out of 3-digit model #s- 1022 would have been kinda clunky. Folks would have tried to say "one-thousand and twenty two" instead of "ten-twenty-two".

Like some say "two thousand and twenty six".

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 1:24 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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gms49ers

Today at 10:40 AM

Where's My Thing? - Rush

harshness

Today at 11:08 AM

I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing - Aerosmith

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Bobby

Today at 11:20 AM

Good Golly, Miss Molly - Little Richard

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Today at 11:42 AM

Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent

RaiderPower

Today at 1:24 PM

Little Miss Can't Be Wrong - Spin Doctors

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reubenray

Last reply Today at 1:17 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish vs Streaming Apps?

Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.

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Bruce

Today at 1:17 PM

reubenray said:
Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.

USA and SyFy content is on Peacock, you can the rest of those channels via Philo, only $25 a month.

Philo - Stream Live and On-Demand TV

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 11:26 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness

Sunday at 11:30 AM

I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

harshness

Yesterday at 5:32 PM

harshness said:
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Foxbat

Yesterday at 8:39 PM

harshness said:
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Bobby

Yesterday at 9:05 PM

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Winter blend is cheaper than Summer blend.

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Bobby

Today at 11:21 AM

Regular$5.839
Premium$6.299
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

Today at 11:26 AM

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?

Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.

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Today at 10:52 AM · posted in BooredAtWork.COM

iPhone Duo Folio Kickstand Case!

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Gary Toma

Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 10:40 AM · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/14/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

DIRECTV_TPN_Map_261014.xlsx 1,874 KB

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KyL416

Yesterday at 2:37 PM

WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS

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doctor J

Today at 7:22 AM

DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:

No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K	4
HD	264	2	1449
SD mpeg4	145		194
SD mpeg2	433
RB
Audio	89
Push	26
Slate	19		1

TEST Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K
HD			1
SD mpeg4
SD mpeg2
RB
Engr Work	38	-2

The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters

doctor J

Today at 7:23 AM

weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:

Weekly_Analysis_261021.xlsx 16 KB

KyL416

Today at 7:25 AM

HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Mr Tony

Today at 10:40 AM

KyL416 said:
HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Wait…..
So even though DAZN keeps touting 'only way to see games' if you are a subscriber to Choice (like my stepdad) if an agreement is reached he can see the Wolfies on 668?
I know the Wild are in dispute and a slate is on 668-1.

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Marques Brownlee

Today at 10:32 AM · posted in Marques Brownlee

ASMR iPhone Duo Unboxing

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