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Blu-ray Wallops HD DVD In Disc Sales


The Sony-backed format crushes its rival despite low-cost HD DVD players.
By Swanni

Washington, D.C. (November 29, 2007) -- Despite the introduction of low-cost HD DVD players, Blu-ray disc sales walloped rival HD DVD during Thanksgiving week.

That's according to an article by Home Media Magazine.

The publication reports that Blu-ray accounted for 72.6 percent of all high-def discs sold during Thanksgiving week, compared to 27.4 for HD DVD. (The figures are based on data from Nielsen VideoScan.)

Blu-ray, which is led by Sony, has enjoyed a 2-1 sales advantage over HD DVD for months. However, retailers recently began selling Toshiba HD DVD players for under $200 -- roughly $200 less than the lowest-priced Blu-ray player.

In pre-Black Friday sales (weekend of Nov. 16-18), some stores were even selling the Toshiba HD-A2 for just $98.

The introduction of the low-cost HD DVD player has led some analysts to speculate that the Toshiba-backed format would finally overcome Blu-ray's advantage. However, during Thanksgiving week, Blu-ray's sales lead actually expanded to roughly 2.5-1.

Of course, HD DVD supporters are likely to say that disc sales will pick up in the next few weeks after people have had a chance to install their new players.

Blu-ray and HD DVD are rival formats competing for the new high-def disc audience.

In related news, Home Media reports that consumers spent $176 million on DVD rentals (standard-def and high-def) during Thanksgiving week, which is a 7.6 percent increase from the previous week
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Is there a more reliable source other Neilsen VideoScan, a source to accounts for software stats? A source that takes into account anomalies like Open Season rank #2 and can some how include Walmart. Is there anyway to get a source that excludes $0.00 purchases(BOGO) from weekly totals?
M
So, if somebody bought a PS3 with ten free discs, they count that as ten Blu-ray sales? The five free HD DVDs I'll get sometime in March count as sales? If that's true, how can Blu-ray lose when they give away so many discs?
ONUOsFan
So, if somebody bought a PS3 with ten free discs, they count that as ten Blu-ray sales? The five free HD DVDs I'll get sometime in March count as sales? If that's true, how can Blu-ray lose when they give away so many discs?

No, that's not true. At least not totally.

The mail-in rebates and discs packaged in box with the players (like the 2 that come with the A3 for example, or SM3 with the 40GB PS3) don't count, becuase they're not scanned anywhere.

The 5 additional free discs WalMart was giving away in store would count, as I understand it, because they are scanned, except that WalMart's numbers are not included in this.

The big gripe right now is that Open Season was given away (but scanned in store) with a promotion as part of a bundle with the PS3 - at Best Buy, I believe. So no one had to have any intent to buy the disc, they just got it thrown in. So the HD-backers want you to know that the BD ratio for last week really was only 2.2:1 and only 6.75 out of every 10 discs sold was BD, instead of the 2.65:1 and 7/10 that was reported. ;)

(And yes, I'm pulling those numbers out of my arse, but you get the idea.)
akodoreign
No, that's not true. At least not totally.

The mail-in rebates and discs packaged in box with the players (like the 2 that come with the A3 for example, or SM3 with the 40GB PS3) don't count, becuase they're not scanned anywhere.

The 5 additional free discs WalMart was giving away in store would count, as I understand it, because they are scanned, except that WalMart's numbers are not included in this.

The big gripe right now is that Open Season was given away (but scanned in store) with a promotion as part of a bundle with the PS3 - at Best Buy, I believe. So no one had to have any intent to buy the disc, they just got it thrown in. So the HD-backers want you to know that the BD ratio for last week really was only 2.2:1 and only 6.75 out of every 10 discs sold was BD, instead of the 2.65:1 and 7/10 that was reported. ;)

(And yes, I'm pulling those numbers out of my arse, but you get the idea.)


Got to dig a little bit deeper. the 10 free disks 5 were via rebate. 5 were from in store scanned then discounted.

so that probably makes it 4 or 5 out of 10 sold were Blue Ray.
ONUOsFan
Got to dig a little bit deeper. the 10 free disks 5 were via rebate. 5 were from in store scanned then discounted.

so that probably makes it 4 or 5 out of 10 sold were Blue Ray.

Wasn't the 10 free movies a Wal-Mart thing? Wal-Mart numbers are not included...

At any rate, I struggle to see why giving 5 more movies away but keeping the price of the player the same is any worse than cutting the price of the player itself by $100. It's just different ways of doing business...
akodoreign
Wasn't the 10 free movies a Wal-Mart thing? Wal-Mart numbers are not included...

At any rate, I struggle to see why giving 5 more movies away but keeping the price of the player the same is any worse than cutting the price of the player itself by $100. It's just different ways of doing business...

Yeah but then it becomes a numbers game. You can say X was sold when it was given away for free.

It would be like if Toshiba said we have sold 700 to 1 stand alone players to Blue Ray.

Does it mean that more people have bought HD players. No. Means that you are making the numbers lie is all.
ONUOsFan
Yeah but then it becomes a numbers game. You can say X was sold when it was given away for free.

It would be like if Toshiba said we have sold 700 to 1 stand alone players to Blue Ray.

Does it mean that more people have bought HD players. No. Means that you are making the numbers lie is all.

No, it means that you are spending money to get yourself in a better position in the market. If the HD folks thought that giving away or discounting more discs was the right strategy, they'd do it in a heartbeat.
Former member 501
Is there a more reliable source other Neilsen VideoScan, a source to accounts for software stats? A source that takes into account anomalies like Open Season rank #2 and can some how include Walmart. Is there anyway to get a source that excludes $0.00 purchases(BOGO) from weekly totals?

Probably not. And Neilsen may soon be including some Walmart (maybe even has started too). The reason they weren't were Walmart's decision to not supply the info. But Walmart is starting to use a Nielson designed system. Some numbers from Walmart are again flowing to Nielson, but apparently not yet the video disc info.
ONUOsFan
No, it means that you are spending money to get yourself in a better position in the market. If the HD folks thought that giving away or discounting more discs was the right strategy, they'd do it in a heartbeat.

Like I said: Amazon.com: HD DVD Offer

The posturing goes both ways.
allargon
Like I said: Amazon.com: HD DVD Offer

The posturing goes both ways.

No. The difference is that this is Amazon only. It is not Toshiba, Paramount, Universal or the DVD forum. The Blu-Ray studios did a BOGO free sale NATIONWIDE--Fry's, Best Buy, Amazon, etc.

To this day, there have been no nationwide BOGO free sales for HD-DVD discs. I would totally jump on Universal and Warner (Seabiscuit, Grand Prix) catalog titles if that were the case.
ONUOsFan
No. The difference is that this is Amazon only. It is not Toshiba, Paramount, Universal or the DVD forum. The Blu-Ray studios did a BOGO free sale NATIONWIDE--Fry's, Best Buy, Amazon, etc.

To this day, there have been no nationwide BOGO free sales for HD-DVD discs. I would totally jump on Universal and Warner (Seabiscuit, Grand Prix) catalog titles if that were the case.

And there were people (maybe not you, I honestly don't remember) complaining about the Wal-Mart giveaways with the PS3, so I was just showing it goes both ways.

Personally, I wish they'd both do BOGO or 1/2 off all year around - that would build my collection (on both sides) pretty fast!
akodoreign
And there were people (maybe not you, I honestly don't remember) complaining about the Wal-Mart giveaways with the PS3, so I was just showing it goes both ways.

Personally, I wish they'd both do BOGO or 1/2 off all year around - that would build my collection (on both sides) pretty fast!

Small difference. at amazon they don't ring it up then discount it. It is marked as 0.00 when purchased. They won't show up as sales that way.

Walmart Bestbuy, they all ring up the product then discount it. Skews the numbers.
R
Probably not. And Neilsen may soon be including some Walmart (maybe even has started too). The reason they weren't were Walmart's decision to not supply the info. But Walmart is starting to use a Nielson designed system. Some numbers from Walmart are again flowing to Nielson, but apparently not yet the video disc info.

Walmart give numbers that will be the day. They know what people want that's why they are #1, and sell 40% of this country's DVD sales.
ONUOsFan
Small difference. at amazon they don't ring it up then discount it. It is marked as 0.00 when purchased. They won't show up as sales that way.

Walmart Bestbuy, they all ring up the product then discount it. Skews the numbers.

You sure about that? Have a link or some evidence to back it up?

An SKU moved is an SKU moved, I would think...

And, by the way, other retailers (including Best Buy) have done in-store giveaways on HD-DVD's, too.... it's not just Amazon.
Zookster
Though I don't put it past the major retailers to be in cahoots with the studios to pad numbers of BD/HD DVD sales figures in how they ring up give away discs with player sales, I think they are ultimately beholden to their own shareholders and bean counters (aka accountants). For example, when I bought my PS3 on Nov. 4 at Fry's, it came with two free extra discs (Fifth Element and Underworld Evolution). They rang up the full price of the discs, while reducing the price of the PS3 by that same amount, so the "discount" apparently came out of their profits on the player rather than the discs. (Though it wouldn't surprise me if Sony subsidized these kinds of give-aways by reducing their wholesale price on the $399 for Fry's and other retailers to encourage week one promotions like this.) I guess what I'm saying, there's more going on with these give aways, for either side, than just padding disc sales totals.
ONUOsFan
I guess what I'm saying, there's more going on with these give aways, for either side, than just padding disc sales totals.

Which is pretty much what I've been saying all along - it just bothers me that certain people here want you to believe that it's only one side doing the padding.
vurbano
Yeah but then it becomes a numbers game. You can say X was sold when it was given away for free.

It would be like if Toshiba said we have sold 700 to 1 stand alone players to Blue Ray.

Does it mean that more people have bought HD players. No. Means that you are making the numbers lie is all.
Absoutely correct.
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.

I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.

Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
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Foxbat
Doing a Google of the HughesNet Email notice, it seems that HughesNet has been trying to eliminate hosting emails since 2019. And with HughesNet filing Chapter 11 back in August, it would be a smart move to switch to a more stable Email provider. Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

SpaceX's Starlink and the Cellular 5G Home Internet solutions have pretty much relegated HughesNet and its high latency, low bandwidth Internet service to History. If Earth had shorter days, maybe a Geostationary Internet Solution might have stood a fighting chance…
K
Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

I still have one of those although I've been trying to wean myself off it.
JSheridan
Among my many email accounts I still have a .netscape.net which AOL assimilated a while back.
EarDemon
Yep, I got the notification a few days ago. I'm not totally surprised.

Never used the address for anything, so no big loss to me.
ncted
Among my many email accounts I still have a .netscape.net which AOL assimilated a while back.
AOL killed mine years ago without any notice. I actually lost contact with some old friends as that was the only address I ever used to communicate with them.
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dishstaller
I actually lost contact with some old friends as that was the only address I ever used to communicate with them.
I had the same thing happen with my first ISP....never again did I use an ISPs email...got a Yahoo and Gmail.
Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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K
Now testing on the stream server:
WJBF-D2 CW Augusta GA
KSVI-D2 CW Billings MT
WETM-D2 CW Elmira NY
WJET-D2 CW Erie PA
KLFY-D2 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-D2 CW Monroe LA
WVBT-D2 CW Norfolk VA
WTWO-D2 CW Terre Haute IN
WFXV-D2 CW Utica NY
KFDX-D3 CW Wichita Falls TX
K
PISTONS and THUNDER are finally testing on the stream server. PISTONS is showing the Ion/Scripps Sports promo loop filler that their NHL and WNBA feeds have, THUNDER has a "You are watching Thunder+" slate

The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.

The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.

So far nothing testing for the Bucks, Magic, Hawks or Hornets.
K
NBA League Pass prep

Some more reshuffles
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K
The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.
They finally announced ClipperVision, it will be on DIRECTV, but they didn't provide a channel number yet.

EDIT: It's going to be on channel 693
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WETM-D2 CW Elmira NY
WJET-D2 CW Erie PA
KLFY-D2 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-D2 CW Monroe LA
WVBT-D2 CW Norfolk VA
WTWO-D2 CW Terre Haute IN
WFXV-D2 CW Utica NY
KFDX-D3 CW Wichita Falls TX
These are now live on stream and weren't testing on satellite as of yesterday:
WETM-DT/19 CW Elmira
WJET-DT/25 CW Erie
KLFY-DT/11 CW Lafayette LA
KARD-DT/15 CW Monroe
WVBT-DT/44 CW Norfolk
WTWO-DT/3 CW Terre Haute
WFXV-DT/34 CW Utica
KFDX-DT/4 CW Wichita Falls
K
The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.
West Palm Beach is getting it on WTCN-CD/43 MNT. Still nothing for Fort Myers


Also, the Thunder's deal for KSBI/52 OKC and KQCW/19 Tulsa will be via a special cable and DIRECTV only feed of those stations. OTA viewers and Dish customers will be limited to 10 games.
dtv757
Thanks for the updates on CW norfolk
Hopefully comes to sat soon!!
Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
For the naysayers who did not think this service would make it, just added another 4.9M subscribers and that was after the removal of 1.2M Russia subscribers.

This is even better, Paramount+ revenue grew 120% and Subscription revenue grew 74% year-over-year ( 2nd quarter 2021/ 2nd quarter 2022) to $830M, principally reflecting paid subscriber growth on Paramount+.

Now compare that to Peacock with only 13 million paid, 13 million free.

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Bruce
Just noticed, CBS shows on Paramount+ are now same day premieres vs next day, which is how they used to be.

Also in 4K/HDR/DV.

I wonder how providers feel about this, they pay an expensive per sub fee for CBS, who is giving another positive reason to drop Paid Live TV and subscribe to P+.
Jimbo
Just noticed, CBS shows on Paramount+ are now same day premieres vs next day, which is how they used to be.

Also in 4K/HDR/DV.

I wonder how providers feel about this, they pay an expensive per sub fee for CBS, who is giving another positive reason to drop Paid Live TV and subscribe to P+.
So, this means that those of us with Commercial Free subs, won't be Commercial Free, unless we wait till after the show is over ?
Which would make same day, not that big of a deal. :confused:
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b4pjoe
So, this means that those of us with Commercial Free subs, won't be Commercial Free, unless we wait till after the show is over ?
Which would make same day, not that big of a deal. :confused:
Paramount+ has always had the CBS shows on the CBS local channel and yes with commercials. What they are doing now is releasing the OnDemand versions of the show which I believe they don't release until after the shows air on the west coast. And they will be commercial free if you subscribe to the ad free version of Paramount+.
Jimbo
Paramount+ has always had the CBS shows on the CBS local channel and yes with commercials. What they are doing now is releasing the OnDemand versions of the show which I believe they don't release until after the shows air on the west coast. And they will be commercial free if you subscribe to the ad free version of Paramount+.
So, the New season won't be on the same day commercial free ???

Looks like the On Demand will Still be the Next Day ...

If you have the Top tier, you could get the LIVE Network feed same as any Cable or OTA would.
===============================================================================

Key facts

  • Premiere date: Tuesday, Oct. 6, 2026
  • Release schedule: Weekly on Tuesdays
  • Network: CBS
  • Streaming: Paramount+*
  • Series created by: Donald P. Bellisario and Don McGill
*New episodes of NCIS stream live on Paramount+ as they air on CBS for subscribers of the Paramount+ Premium plan. Episodes stream on demand on Paramount+ on the day after they air on CBS for all subscribers.
b4pjoe
So, the New season won't be on the same day commercial free ???

Looks like the On Demand will Still be the Next Day ...

If you have the Top tier, you could get the LIVE Network feed same as any Cable or OTA would.
===============================================================================

Key facts

  • Premiere date: Tuesday, Oct. 6, 2026
  • Release schedule: Weekly on Tuesdays
  • Network: CBS
  • Streaming: Paramount+*
  • Series created by: Donald P. Bellisario and Don McGill
*New episodes of NCIS stream live on Paramount+ as they air on CBS for subscribers of the Paramount+ Premium plan. Episodes stream on demand on Paramount+ on the day after they air on CBS for all subscribers.
Watching it on the CBS local on Paramount+ is the exact same as watching it on your CBS local on your current cable/satellite/mvpd/vMVPD service. The OnDemand versions of it can be released on the same day that it airs but usually it is after the show airs on the west coast so if you have a show at 7:00 pm in your time zone and it airs 3 hours later on the west coast at 10:00 pm your time then they could release it at 11:00 pm your time if it was a one hour show. I really have not checked to see what time I can see the ad free OnDemand shows on Paramount+. I know today that last nights FBI and CIA show did not pop into the Up Next row on my Apple TV until this afternoon. I guess it may have been in Paramount+ since last night but I never checked it.
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Jimbo
Watching it on the CBS local on Paramount+ is the exact same as watching it on your CBS local on your current cable/satellite/mvpd/vMVPD service. The OnDemand versions of it can be released on the same day that it airs but usually it is after the show airs on the west coast so if you have a show at 7:00 pm in your time zone and it airs 3 hours later on the west coast at 10:00 pm your time then they could release it at 11:00 pm your time if it was a one hour show. I really have not checked to see what time I can see the ad free OnDemand shows on Paramount+. I know today that last nights FBI and CIA show did not pop into the Up Next row on my Apple TV until this afternoon. I guess it may have been in Paramount+ since last night but I never checked it.
I think I read 3am est the next day, somewhere.
b4pjoe
I think I read 3am est the next day, somewhere.
I wasn't up at 3:00 am to check but they are there at 8:00 am today. :)
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jamieh1
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
The new curated multiview is now live.
While on many of the sports channels and non sports channels there is a multi view option button. It will pull up a side bar with many different multi view options.
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K
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
b4pjoe
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
But not on the only device they ship out right now which is the Gemini Air.
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TheRatPatrol
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
How soon will it be available on Apple TV? Thanks
I WANT MORE
But not on the only device they ship out right now which is the Gemini Air.
It's on my Air's.
b4pjoe
It's on my Air's.
The post read: "currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen". It didn't mention the Air. I suppose when it said Geminis it meant both but I had no way of knowing that.
Foxbat
Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
S
Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
ncted
ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade
No. Makes me wonder if that is Apple or the carrier. I am on pre-paid, so I never get "an upgrade." I still have my old iPhone 11 Pro as a second line, and it runs iOS 27 just fine. My iPhone Air, which is still a current model, doesn't really seem that much faster in regular use. It is better in other ways, and worse in some ways than the 11 Pro (size), but performance really isn't a big differentiator, especially since I replaced the battery in the 11 Pro. If I had gotten enough storage when I originally bought the 11 Pro, it could still be my primary device with no issues.
ncted
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
"MysteryMan"
Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.
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EarDemon
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.
WhiteBeard
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything. ☹️
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EarDemon
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything. ☹️
For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.

I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.
harshness
I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows.
What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI? By many accounts, it has been going downhill since Windows 7.

There are Linux desktops that offer Windows or Mac UIs, yet you don't hear much chatter about them outside of questions about when the creators might get sued.
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EarDemon
What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI?
Because it's what I prefer. I know I've said this a few times, I use Open Shell to give me the cascading start menu a la WIN 95 and NT4.0. The only reason I went from Windows Vista to 7 back in the day was because of Classic Shell. I cannot stand anything other than the OG start menu from 30+ years ago. I'm using ExplorerPatcher to give me Windows 10 UI elements of the taskbar and right click context menus.

If you could take a look at how I set up Windows 95, you'd find many similarities to how I use 11.
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EarDemon
I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.
harshness
Because it's what I prefer.
I hope you don't believe that makes it wonderful (especially when you're using workarounds for Microsoft's malfeasance).

I use LibreOffice as opposed to Microsoft office (even in Windows) because it's UI is like the Office of old, so I'm putting my money where my mouth is (in a manner of speaking). The ribbon was one of the worst ideas to come out Redmond.
HipKat
I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.
I used to pin the C: drive to the Win Taskbar and it would open in cascading style
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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
Foxbat
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
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zipping right along here
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WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
Foxbat
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
OMG to freaking funny :biggrin
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Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
ewindowman
Lots of offers on the hopper account app . On the website there are only a few.
Almighty1
Lots of offers on the hopper account app . On the website there are only a few.
Never had time to use the Hopper 3 account app yet. I also have a Hopper Plus so it's not the same as the Hopper 3 standalone. Will try it when I have more time, need to beat the taxes extension filing deadline first as I am still working on entering the data into the tax software.
Almighty1
This is what I see when it comes to offers on My Account on the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com:

AMC+ 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
AMC+ Free for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)
AMC+ 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Cine y Entretenimie 50% off for 3 months

DOGTV 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

DISH Movie Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

DOGTV 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
DOGTV 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Gallery First Month Free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Heartland Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

Mexico y Mas 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

MGM+ $0.00/Month not saying how long (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Multi-Sport Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Netflix Standard with Ads, $7.99/month credit toward Netflix Standard with Ads ($.99) month with 24 month DISH commitment
(Only on My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Outdoor Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Paramount+ with SHOWTIME 50% off for three months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)
Paramount+ with SHOWTIME 2 months free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Playboy TV 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Republica Dominicana 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

STARZ 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
STARZ $1.99/month for 2 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

Sudamerica y Mas 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

UP Faith & Family 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
look again mine says free for 1 month
Almighty1
look again mine says free for 1 month
Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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wonder why it says that
Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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White Rabbit - Jefferson Airplane
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White Wedding - Billy Idol
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