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TheForce

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Last reply Dec 10, 2007 · posted in The XStreamHD Forum

new satellite service to offer 1080p DD7.1

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Noted by: Steven Kippel on 16 Nov 2007 on wesleytech.com
New satellite service provides 1080p direct to your home

Currently the best picture you can receive over cable or satellite (including FiOS) is 1080i with 5.1 Dolby audio. Things are about to change.

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XStream HD is a new company out of Virginia set to bring 1080p with 7.1 audio direct to your home. How do they do this? They have a new vision of not just providing content but also distributing it throughout your home. A proprietary media server will receive content from geosynchronous satellites and then deliver it to receivers in multiple locations.

This sounds like an exciting new technology. The company is claiming the 7.1 audio will be "uncompressed." Finally a service provider who focuses on quality!

The product will be premiered at CES 2008. I hope it lives up to the hype and offers a wide variety of content. The last time we had a satellite provider offering high-quality HD content it tanked (Voom).

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John Kotches

Dec 9, 2007

The claim for the product is 1080p and 7.1 lossless audio.

I'm trying to schedule a CES briefing to discuss it with them.

Best,

rockymtnhigh

Dec 9, 2007

John Kotches said:
The claim for the product is 1080p and 7.1 lossless audio.

I'm trying to schedule a CES briefing to discuss it with them.

Best,

Yeah, definitely worth checking out at CES. And less than a month away

TheForce

Dec 9, 2007

Thanks, John. Be looking forward to your report.

vegassatellite- Sure frame rates are important. But each format has it's optimum frame rate. Today, the 1080p 24frame rate is still, IMO, in development and quite experimental. I've been working with it for a couple of months now and many of the advantages of ridding the 3:2 pull down to convert film rate to video rates are compromised with other errors due to improper processing. It is still a quagmire to get 24fps from film to your screen without something getting in the way. Many who have reported getting it to work are using the simplest setup and all 24P passthrough.

PS:

Most broadcasts are still 24FPS with a 3:3:2 pulldown to get the 32FPS.

You should correct the errors in this statement too.

However, personally, I don't think frame rate has much to do with the success or failure of this service. Ideally, all source HDTV should allow pass through in it's program's native frame rate and resolution so that the equipment to process the program for transport from live to your screen does not affect this.
It would be nice if when a channel shows a movie shot in film, it is transmitted in 24P frames and a documentary shot in HDCAM is sent at 29.97 fps and 1080ix1440. Leave the final I to P conversion to the display device if digital or none if CRT. (Does anyone still view on CRT?

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John Kotches

Dec 9, 2007

Don Landis said:
vegassatellite- Sure frame rates are important. But each format has it's optimum frame rate. Today, the 1080p 24frame rate is still, IMO, in development and quite experimental.

??? It isn't experimental at all. Do you mean recovering the original cadence from 24p material presented at 60i/p?

It still isn't too difficult if you're willing to pony up for the appropriate hardware.

I've been working with it for a couple of months now and many of the advantages of ridding the 3:2 pull down to convert film rate to video rates are compromised with other errors due to improper processing. It is still a quagmire to get 24fps from film to your screen without something getting in the way. Many who have reported getting it to work are using the simplest setup and all 24P passthrough.

Well of course, the best processing is no processing at all.

It would be nice if when a channel shows a movie shot in film, it is transmitted in 24P frames and a documentary shot in HDCAM is sent at 29.97 fps and 1080ix1440. Leave the final I to P conversion to the display device if digital or none if CRT. (Does anyone still view on CRT? )

The I to P without motion compensation / interpolation for HDCAM is one of the ugliest things you'll see.

It is neither cheap nor easy to do motion adaptive deinterlacing on interlaced high definition content.

navychop

Dec 10, 2007

Don Landis said:
...Does anyone still view on CRT?

I think the season on them has been open for quite some time now. Probably get closed soon due to lack of prey, or reduced to bow hunting only.

Translation: Even my late 70s mother in law has decided she wants a flat screen TV, to be rid of her bulky CRT TV!

TheForce

Dec 10, 2007

John Kotches Asked:

??? It isn't experimental at all. Do you mean recovering the original cadence from 24p material presented at 60i/p?

In my book anytime most equipment mfg's are having to consistently retool their firmware to get it (1080p 24fps) to work right for video, I'm talking about DVD players and video processors. It is still experimental. Lots of stuff should work according to theory but until they actually get it to work without freezing up or stuttering or causing error codes to display or lip sync to go that away, it is still experimental.
Hmmm... that reminds me I need to go do the complex task of downloading and upgrading my DVDO processor with the latest firmware so I can, hopefully, get that to work properly in 24P. Its complicated as DVDO uses serial port connectivity to upload the firmware.

BTW- John- if you ever studied cinematography you would know that shooting in 24P is quite tricky to do it properly without motion artifacts, and that is assuming it remains in film. There are a whole set of camera movement restrictions specified by SMPTE to maintain motion artifact compliance. It's stuff you learn in a good film school. Its stuff I see novice shooters with 24P video cameras violate all the time and then they want to blame the equipment.

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dishstaller

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Last reply 13 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

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Jimbo

Today at 9:23 AM

dishstaller said:
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

Walmart isn't the only one ...

Juan

43 minutes ago

dishstaller said:
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price

harshness

42 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
Walmart isn't the only one ...

I've been seeing this more and more on Amazon. Sometimes it seems there is no way they could have arrived at the number.

What rankles me even more is Costco changing units of measure between similar products, so you have to convert them to compare prices.

dishstaller

13 minutes ago

Juan said:
When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...

Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.

Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 18 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

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Get it?

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sdfntx

Today at 9:36 AM

Love Every Little Thing About You - Gallery

gms49ers

Today at 10:40 AM

Where's My Thing? - Rush

harshness

52 minutes ago

I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing - Aerosmith

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Bobby

40 minutes ago

Good Golly, Miss Molly - Little Richard

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dishstaller

18 minutes ago

Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply 34 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness

Sunday at 11:30 AM

I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

harshness

Yesterday at 5:32 PM

harshness said:
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Foxbat

Yesterday at 8:39 PM

harshness said:
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Bobby

Yesterday at 9:05 PM

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Winter blend is cheaper than Summer blend.

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Bobby

39 minutes ago

Regular$5.839
Premium$6.299
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

34 minutes ago

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?

Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.

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reubenray

41 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish vs Streaming Apps?

Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.

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Former member 209992

Last reply 42 minutes ago · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Site is slooooow

For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.

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Scott Greczkowski

Saturday at 3:21 PM

Ok checked it out and for some reason the web server (NGINX) tried starting before the DNS resolver fully loaded. This is why it worked when I rebooted the machine.

Thanks to ChatGPT it had me change the NGINX config to prevent this from happening again.

With that said I can't prevent the ISP from doing emergency upgrades which was the cause of all of this.

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navychop

Saturday at 3:39 PM

Nature will develop better idiots.

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TRG

Saturday at 4:19 PM

navychop said:
Nature will develop better idiots.

God help us.

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Scott Greczkowski

Monday at 11:15 AM

I guess this is what the downtime was about.

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Scott Greczkowski

42 minutes ago

Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)

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Gary Toma

Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 10:40 AM · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/14/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

DIRECTV_TPN_Map_261014.xlsx 1,874 KB

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KyL416

Yesterday at 2:37 PM

WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS

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doctor J

Today at 7:22 AM

DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:

No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K	4
HD	264	2	1449
SD mpeg4	145		194
SD mpeg2	433
RB
Audio	89
Push	26
Slate	19		1

TEST Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K
HD			1
SD mpeg4
SD mpeg2
RB
Engr Work	38	-2

The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters

doctor J

Today at 7:23 AM

weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:

Weekly_Analysis_261021.xlsx 16 KB

KyL416

Today at 7:25 AM

HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Mr Tony

Today at 10:40 AM

KyL416 said:
HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Wait…..
So even though DAZN keeps touting 'only way to see games' if you are a subscriber to Choice (like my stepdad) if an agreement is reached he can see the Wolfies on 668?
I know the Wild are in dispute and a slate is on 668-1.

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Marques Brownlee

Today at 10:32 AM · posted in Marques Brownlee