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Last reply Dec 22, 2007 · posted in TV Shows

Voom HD December 2007 Highlights

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PENNY REVOLUTION<o></o>
This inspirational series shows how a small amount of money can transform the lives of the more than one billion people who live below the international poverty line, earning less than $1 a day. The magic formula is known as microfinance, a revolutionary method of funding projects in the developing world, considered by many experts to be the world's most effective anti-poverty tool. Penny Revolution demonstrates how an average of $100 can spur the economic transformation of a struggling third-world community.<o

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World Premiere – Episode 3 TV-PG<o></o>

Premieres Thursday, December 6th at <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:smarttags" /><st1:time w:st="on" Hour="22" Minute="00">10pm</st1:time> ET & PT/9C<o></o>
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lace> to witness Maritza's success, resulting in an emotional meeting for both entrepreneurs. In the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1

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lace></st1:country-region>, however, Betania is forced to pawn her possessions in order to cover her loan payments. Little does she know that one of her lenders, Omar Minaya, is also in the <st1

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lace> scouting players for the Mets. While there, Minaya meets Betania and visits her home and business. Betania is overjoyed to have someone so important interested in her life and Minaya is reminded how Betania's life isn't so different from the one he used to know. <o

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World Premiere – Episode 4 TV-PG<o></o>

Premieres Thursday, December 13th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="22" Minute="00">10pm</st1:time> ET & PT/9C<o></o>
New members of a fundraising group are so moved by the stories of the people they can help through microcredit that they donate enough money to kick-start businesses for new borrowers in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1

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lace></st1:country-region>, a small group of impoverished women who will use the loan to sell tortillas and trade in clothing. Back in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1

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lace></st1:country-region>, viewers learn whether or not Betania has met her goals and managed to succeed against her competition. In <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1

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lace></st1:country-region>, when Juana's money comes through, she begins working immediately, keen to sell as much as possible on her next trip to the market. Unbeknownst to her, however, her supporters are planning a visit to see for themselves the impact of their donations. Back in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1

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lace></st1:State>, at a fundraiser to celebrate the Dominican spirit of the Mets and to support Esperanza International, Minaya makes a donation of his own money to kick start donations from other wealthy New Yorkers.<o

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World Premiere – Episode 5 TV-PG<o></o>

Premieres Thursday, December 20th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="22" Minute="00">10pm</st1:time> ET & PT/9C<o></o>
In Rwanda, a country ravaged by genocide that left more than one million people dead, viewers meet Beatrice, a genocide widow who has turned her life around though the microcredit loan she received and is now a local judge and respected member of the community. She takes on another $300 loan to finance the purchase of a single mobile phone for her community, as the one they currently use is more than one hour away. Back in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1

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lace></st1:country-region>, Juana's health is deteriorating, while her group struggles to make their loan repayments. In <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1

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World Premiere – Episode 6 TV-PG<o></o>

Premieres Thursday, December 27th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="22" Minute="00">10pm</st1:time> ET & PT/9C<o></o>
In <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1

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lace></st1:country-region>, the borrowers brace for Hurricane Felix and recount their entrepreneurial successes and challenges. Finally, in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1

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lace></st1:country-region>, viewers meet Grameen Bank founder Professor Muhammad Yunus and borrower Taslima Begum, two 2006 Nobel Peace Prize recipients emblematic of the success of microfinance. Viewers learn how Begum used her initial and subsequent loans to provide for her family. Today, her mango garden, rice wholesale and fabric design businesses have secured her family's future and she now sits on the Board of Grameen Bank.<o

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WILDLIFE NANNIES<o></o>
Viewers examine the fragile relationship between animal mothers and their young and what happens when humans step in to become foster parents to wild animals. This continuing series follows these devoted specialists and documents the dependency the animals have on their new parents, as well as the bond that develops between them.<o

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World Premiere – Episode 17: "Lions & Penguins" TV-G<o></o>
Premieres Saturday, December 1st at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="11" Minute="00">11am</st1:time> ET & PT/10C<o></o>
An abused baby lion learns a valuable lesson about trust when he learns to act in films, while a penguin recovering from brain damage takes to the water. <o

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World Premiere – Episode 18: "Sharks, Goats and Foxes" TV-G<o></o>
Premieres Saturday, December 8th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="11" Minute="00">11am</st1:time> ET & PT/10C<o></o>
Two shark breeders care for new hatchlings while a young goat is reunited with her natural mother.<o

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ANIMAL ATLAS is an entertaining and educational half-hour program that explores the world of animal wildlife and promotes a better understanding of how various animal species live and what they need to survive. Each episode includes a thorough – and oftentimes entertaining – look at a specific animal and takes the viewer into that animal's world to see where it lives, how it eats, how it plays, how the family unit operates, and what threatens and supports its survival. This family-oriented series promotes responsibility toward wildlife issues, educates viewers about endangered species and wildlife habits, and includes information on supporting wildlife conservation. <o

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Episode 13: "Birds Of Prey" TV-G<o></o>
Premieres Saturday, December 1st at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="11" Minute="00">11am</st1:time> ET/ <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="8" Minute="00">8am</st1:time> PT/10am C<o></o>
Viewers get a thorough look at eagles, hawks and owls and learn how these predatory birds hunt and fly. They also learn more about these birds' super senses, the adaptations that help them pursue and capture prey, as well as their fascinating historic relationship with mankind.<o

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Episode 14: "The Wild Life: Life's A Crowd" TV-G<o></o>
Premieres Monday, December 3th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="00">8pm</st1:time> ET & PT/7C<o></o>
This informative episode highlights some of the planet's more social animals (meerkats, prairie dogs and dwarf mongooses) and delves into what constitutes groups living together, from herds and hives to extended primate families.<o

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Episode 15: "Wings? Who Needs Wings?!" TV-G<o></o>
Premieres Wednesday, December 5th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="00">8pm</st1:time> ET & PT/7C<o></o>
Viewers get an in-depth look at how two neighboring groups of birds – the flightless penguin and the airborne puffin – live and survive, and learn why one species can fly while the other can't.<o

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Episode 16: "Who's at the Zoo, Too?" TV-G<o></o>
Premieres Saturday, December 8th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="11" Minute="00">11am</st1:time> ET/ <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="8" Minute="00">8am</st1:time> PT/10am C <o

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Some of the Animal Kingdom's more interesting animals are on view this week, including Cinder, the hairless chimpanzee at the St. Louis Zoo and Scooby, the maneless lion at Branson Zoo & Aquarium. Zoos are also the focus of this episode, as viewers learn why zoos display animals and how they help them survive as both species and individuals.<o

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Episode 17: "By Land, By Sea, By Air" TV-G<o></o>
Premieres Monday, December 10th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="00">8pm</st1:time> ET & PT/7C<o></o>
Constant motion is the theme of this week's episode, which explores how animals move on land, in the water, and through the air.<o

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Episode 18: "Animals 101" TV-G<o></o>
Premieres Wednesday, December 12th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="00">8pm</st1:time> ET & PT/7C<o></o>
The informative episode studies animal groupings based on appearance and relative species and explores how the Animal Kingdom is classified based on features such as skeletal structure, eating habits and number of digits. <o

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Episode 19: "The Biggest and the Fastest" TV-G<o></o>
Premieres Saturday, December 15th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="11" Minute="00">11am</st1:time> ET/ <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="8" Minute="00">8am</st1:time> PT/10am C<o></o>
Viewers get a closer look at both the biggest animal in the world (the elephant) and the fastest (the cheetah) and learn how these and other large and fast animals thrive and survive in the wild.<o

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Episode 20: "Animal Babies 2" TV-G<o></o>
Premieres Monday, December 17th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="00">8pm</st1:time> ET & PT/7C<o></o>
This week, viewers peek inside the nursery and see some remarkable animal babies including, horse foals, kangaroo joeys, baby porcupines, wolf cubs, water buffalo calves, hawk chicks, baby owls, and ape infants. They also learn how childhood differs within these various animal species and how the young learn to be like the adults of their species.<o

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Episode 21: "The Herbivores" TV-G<o></o>
Premieres Wednesday, December 19th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="00">8pm</st1:time> ET & PT/7C<o></o>
Viewers journey into the world of herbivores, and study animals that only eat vegetation. "Cud chewers," such as deer, antelopes, sheep and giraffes are also examined, as are animals not typically thought of as vegetarians, such as gorillas and giant tortoises.<o

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Episode 22: "Water Birds" TV-G<o></o>
Premieres Saturday, December 22nd at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="11" Minute="00">11am</st1:time> ET/ <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="8" Minute="00">8am</st1:time> PT/10am C<o></o>
Viewers take a panoramic look at birds who are defined by the bodies of water where they live including ducks and geese, puffins and penguins, and flamingos and herons. They also learn how these birds live, as well as their physical adaptations to life in or near the water.<o

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Episode 23: "Livin' Large In The Rainforest" TV-G<o></o>
Premieres Monday, December 24th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="00">8pm</st1:time> ET & PT/7C<o></o>
Viewers explore the amazing array of creatures that live in the damp and fertile rainforests of the world, from monkeys, colorful birds and huge snakes and spiders to strange-looking mammals and fierce predators.<o

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Episode 24: "The Hunters and the Hunted" TV-G<o></o>
Premieres Wednesday, December 26th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="00">8pm</st1:time> ET & PT/7C <o

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Viewers take an unprecedented look into the world of predators and prey animals and find out how they adapt and deal with each other.<o

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Episode 25: "Chow Down!" TV-G<o></o>
Premieres Saturday, December 29th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="11" Minute="00">11am</st1:time> ET/ <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="8" Minute="00">8am</st1:time> PT/10am C<o></o>
Viewers learn how the old saying, "You are what you eat," really applies in the Animal Kingdom, as they get a fascinating look at how an animal's diet determines not only where and how it lives, but also what it looks like. Everything from skull shape and number and kinds of teeth to neck length, tongue shape and familial relationships are closely related to what animals consume.<o

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Episode 26: "The Wonderful World of Bears" TV-G<o></o>
Premieres Monday, December 31st at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="00">8pm</st1:time> ET & PT/7C<o></o>
Viewers visit the various bears of the world and learn how they differ from each other, what they have in common, and their interesting close relations.<o

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GALLERY HD<o></o>
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ARTLAND (Season 2)<o></o>
In its first season, ARTLAND proved that American art is perhaps the most vital, free-wheeling and diverse on the planet. Back for a second season, ARTLAND chronicles the journeys of its hosts, New Yorker Mame McCutchin and Londoner Toby Amies, as they travel cross-continent in a Jackson Pollock-inspired RV/HDTV studio to capture not only intriguing visual art, but the life-changing experiences that unfold during the ultimate art road trip. Each of the twelve one-hour episodes features a different leg of their journey, which began in <st1:City w:st="on">Miami</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Florida</st1:State>, and ended in <st1

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World Premiere - Episode 10: "Architecture" TV-G<o></o>
Premieres Thursday, December 6th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="00">8pm</st1:time> ET/ <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="21" Minute="00">9pm</st1:time> PT/7C<o></o>
McCutchin and Amies look back over some of the extraordinary architectural sights of <st1:country-region w:st="on">America</st1:country-region>, including Fallingwater, The Farnsworth House, Salk, The St. Louis Arch, Arcosanti, and <st1

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World Premiere - Episode 11: "Art Collections" TV-G<o></o>
Premieres Thursday, December 13th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="00">8pm</st1:time> ET/ <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="21" Minute="00">9pm</st1:time> PT/7C<o></o>
McCutchin and Amies review the top twelve collections visited this season, including those featured at Dia Beacon, The Walker Art Center, The Chianti Foundation, The Museum of Bad Art, and The Des Moines Art Center. <o

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World Premiere - Episode 12: "Only in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">America</st1lace></st1:country-region>" TV-G<o></o>
Premieres Thursday, December 20th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="00">8pm</st1:time> ET/ <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="21" Minute="00">9pm</st1:time> PT/7C<o></o>
In their cross-country drive, McCutchin and Amies have seen things that can only be found in <st1

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CONCRETE CANVAS<o></o>
Using only chalk and his imagination, world-renowned street artist Julian Beever creates amazing 3D artwork on sidewalks. This ten-part documentary series follows the artist as he tours art capitals such as <st1:State w:st="on">New York</st1:State>, <st1:City w:st="on">London</st1:City>, <st1:City w:st="on">Paris</st1:City>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Mexico</st1:country-region> and <st1:City w:st="on"><st1

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lace></st1:City> and develops a 3D mural unique to each locale. The series also explores each city's street art scene and goes underground with local street artists to discover the innovative urban art being created in inner cities around the globe. From stenciling and wheat pasting to installations and murals, the series profiles artists who, like Keith Haring and Jean Michel Basquiat before them, use the streets as their galleries to make art more accessible to the public.<o

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World Premiere - Episode 7: "<st1:City w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">San Francisco</st1lace></st1:City>" TV-G <o></o>
Premieres Monday, December 3 at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="00">8pm</st1:time> ET and PT/7C<o></o>
In this compelling episode, Beever works to recreate one of the most dramatic events in this city's history, the 1906 earthquake, in a sprawling 3D sidewalk canvas. The local street art scene is explored in interviews with "cartoon literalist" Sirron Norris and sticker artist Dave Warnke.<o

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World Premiere - Episode 8: "<st1:City w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Paris</st1lace></st1:City>" TV-G <o></o>
Premieres Monday, December 10 at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="00">8pm</st1:time> ET/ <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="21" Minute="00">9pm</st1:time> PT/7C<o></o>
In the City of <st1:City w:st="on">Light</st1:City> where pavement drawing is forbidden, Beever must find a suitable site to realize his concept – a 3D sidewalk reproduction of the <st1

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World Premiere - Episode 9: "<st1:City w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Mexico City</st1lace></st1:City>" TV-G <o></o>
Premieres Monday, December 17 at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="00">8pm</st1:time> ET/ <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="21" Minute="00">9pm</st1:time> PT/7C<o></o>
In the home of esteemed muralist Diego Rivera, Beever works to create a piece that captures the natural and surrealist beauty that is <st1

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World Premiere - Episode 10: "<st1:City w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Los Angeles</st1lace></st1:City>" TV-G <o></o>
Premieres Monday, December 24 at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="00">8pm</st1:time> ET/ <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="21" Minute="00">9pm</st1:time> PT/7C<o></o>
Julian beguiles scores of curious tourists, hopeful starlets and wannabe rock gods with a 3D piece that captures the glitz and glamour of the LA lifestyle, right on the Redondo Beach Pier. Also featured in this episode is Shepard Fairy, the creator of the famous underground icon, the "Obey Giant," which can be found on street corners, stop signs and now t-shirts around the globe.<o

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Nikki the Knife<o></o>
In GAMEPLAY HD's first foray into the "Gonzo journalism" made (in)famous by Hunter S. Thompson, Nick "Nikki the Knife" Gallucci travels to some of the best gaming events of the year – QuakeCon, the Penny Arcade Expo and Digital Life – and interviews everyone from Orcs and McFrontalot to Living Colour musicians Vernon Reid and Corey Glover. The show bubbles with youthful energy and brings viewers as close to these gamer events as possible. Gallucci has been a professional gamer since 1998, successfully competing on a national level with his team 20ID.<o

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World Premiere – Episode 1: "QuakeCon" . TV-14<o></o>
Premieres Friday, December 14th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="30">8:30pm</st1:time> ET/9:30pm PT/7:30C <o

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The Knife travels to <st1:City w:st="on"><st1

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World Premiere – Episode 2: "Penny Arcade" TV-14<o></o>
Premieres Friday, December 21st at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="30">8:30pm</st1:time> ET/9:30pm PT/7:30C <o

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The Knife attends the Penny Arcade Expo (PAX) in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1

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World Premiere – Episode 3: "DigitalLife" TV-14<o></o>
Premieres Friday, December 28th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="30">8:30pm</st1:time> ET/9:30pm PT/7:30C <o

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The Knife heads to <st1:City w:st="on"><st1

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TRAILER PARK<o></o>
A monthly series from GAMEPLAY HD, TRAILER PARK brings gaming fans a double-wide dose of trailers from the top current and upcoming games. It also features specially created music videos and comedic machinima-style vignettes, spliced from gameplay footage highlights from these top titles. New episodes of TRAILER PARK premiere the first Monday of every month. <o

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World Premiere – Episode 5 TV-MA<o></o>
Premieres Monday, December 3rd at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="30">8:30pm</st1:time> ET/9:30pm PT/7:30C<o></o>
Trailers from upcoming games: The Witcher; John Woo presents Stranglehold; Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures; Assassins Creed; Haze; Beowulf; and LocoRoco Cocorecho!<o

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This unique and innovative series presents real gameplay the way it was meant to be seen – uncut and totally unedited. It chronicles an expert player's moves playing today's AAA titles, reveals their successes and missteps, and gives insight into the players' strategy and planning. <o

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World Premiere – "Ninja Gaiden Sigma" TV-MA<o></o>
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Ryu Hayabusa is a young Ninja whose village is attacked and whose childhood friend, Kureha, is killed. In this episode, gamers take on the role of Hayabusa, follow him to the Vigoor Empire for revenge and join in his quest for the stolen Dark Dragon Blade, a legendary sword with incredible capacity for evil. <o

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World Premiere – "John Woo Presents Stranglehold" TV-MA<o></o>
Premieres Saturday, December 8th at 10:30am ET/1:30pm PT/9:30aC<o

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This week, gamers become Inspector Tequila from John Woo's influential action film, Hard Boiled starring Chow Yun-Fat. Fascinated by a crime boss with a gripping secret, Inspector Tequila is forced to cross the line from sworn duty to bloody revenge.<o></o>
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World Premiere – "Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion" TV-MA<o></o>
Premieres Saturday, December 15th at 10:30am ET/1:30pm PT/9:30aC<o></o>
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Premieres Saturday, December 15th at 10:30am ET/1:30pm PT/9:30aC<o></o>
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Premieres Saturday, December 29th at 10:30am ET/1:30pm PT/9:30aC<o></o>
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World Premiere - Special Report: "What <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Brazil</st1lace></st1:country-region> Knows That We Don't"<o></o>
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World Premiere - Special Report: "Project <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Ethiopia</st1lace></st1:country-region>: Saving The Children"<o></o>
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In <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1

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World Premiere - Special Report: "When The Third World Comes to <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">America</st1lace></st1:country-region>"<o></o>
Airs Saturday, December 29th and Sunday, December 30th <o></o>
HDNews reports on <st1:country-region w:st="on">Venezuela</st1:country-region>'s oil wealth and how it affects the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1

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This provocative series offers one-on-one half-hour interviews that give new insight and a stimulating look into the work and careers of celebrated musicians. Host Dave Fanning is a legendary Irish radio DJ, renowned for giving U2 their first significant airplay and for hundreds of interviews with the world's most famous rock n' roll stars. This month, Fanning's guests are former Soundgarden and Audioslave frontman Chris Cornell, and Iggy Pop,and KT Tunstall. <o></o>
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Premieres Sunday, December 2nd at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="00">8pm</st1:time> ET/10pm PT/7C<o></o>
This week, Dave interviews Chris Cornell, best known as the lead singer, guitarist and songwriter for the rock bands Soundgarden and Audioslave. <o

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Premieres Sunday, December 9th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="00">8pm</st1:time> ET/10pm PT/7C<o></o>
This week, Dave interviews KT Tunstall, the Scottish singer/songwriter Rolling Stone magazine has described as a "folk-rock goddess." <o

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Premieres Sunday, December 16th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="20" Minute="00">8pm</st1:time> ET/10pm PT/7C<o></o>
This week, Dave interviews James Newell Osterberg, Jr., better known as Iggy Pop, lead singer of The Stooges, and arguably, one of the most important innovators of the heavy metal and punk rock movements.<o

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Premieres Friday, December 14th at 9pm ET/10pm PT/8C<o></o>
Alternative US rock band Lifehouse appears on this episode of SOUNDSTAGE. They perform "First Time" from their fourth studio album Who We Are as well as other hits including, "You and Me" and "Hanging By A Moment."<o

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World Premiere Saturday, December 15 at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="22" Minute="30">10:30pm</st1:time> ET/ <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="19" Minute="30">7:30pm</st1:time> PT/9:30C <o

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This exhilarating 90-minute hi-def documentary explores the original extreme sport of downhill skiing. Beautifully shot and adrenaline-fueled, this captivating film paints an intimate picture of the people and places that have made this alpine discipline one of the most dangerous and thrilling sports in the world. Featuring historical and contemporary stories, along with stunning POV footage, THE THIN LINE includes in-depth interviews with top downhillers, including decorated Americans Bode Miller, Daron Rahlves and Picabo Street, legendary Austrian daredevil Franz Klammer, and many more. <o

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Only a select few athletes have what it takes to be extreme. Find out who they are in the third season of Nomads and live life on the edge with extreme sports athletes at the top of their games. These adrenaline junkies comb the earth for the most perfect spot, the best competition, and a place to make their mark. When they find it, they don't leave without giving it their all, proving their worthiness to the sport they love. <o

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Premieres Friday, December 7th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="22" Minute="00">10pm</st1:time> ET/11pm PT/9C<o></o>
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Premieres Friday, December 14th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="22" Minute="00">10pm</st1:time> ET/11pm PT/9C<o></o>
B.A.S.E. icon Miles Dasher leads a team of fellow jumpers on a search for a new exit point in <st1:country-region w:st="on">Switzerland</st1:country-region>'s <st1

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Premieres Friday, December 21st at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="22" Minute="00">10pm</st1:time> ET/11pm PT/9C<o></o>
Team Cannondale's elite squad, "The Cut," journeys through the French Alps on a road trip that peaks at the "The Megavalanche," the longest mountain bike downhill race in the world.<o

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World Premiere – Episode 9: "Wakeboard – On The Road To Boardtstock" TV-PG<o></o>
Premieres Friday, December 28th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="22" Minute="00">10pm</st1:time> ET/11pm PT/9C<o></o>
Pro Wakeboarders Andrew Adkinson and Corey Bradley wrap up their season and head cross- country from <st1:State w:st="on">Florida</st1:State> to <st1

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The professional athletes featured in FOCUSED have been training their whole lives, not to play a game or win a trophy, but to capture amoment. Even though the world is rushing around them and their dream could end as fast as the weather changes, these athletes must be focused. Adventure sports featured this season include: skiing, B.A.S.E. jumping, kayaking, wakeboarding or mountain biking. Professional athletes appearing this season include: skiers Mark Abma, Eric Hjorleifson, James Heim and Chris Rubens; freeriders Cedric Gracia, Brian Lopes and Wayne Goss; mountain bikers Andreu and Luis Lacondeguy; and B.A.S.E. jumper Miles Dasher.<o

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World Premiere – Episode 5: "Helicopter Skiing in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">British Columbia</st1lace></st1:State>" TV-PG<o></o>
Premieres Saturday, December 1st at 12:30pm ET/ 9:30am PT/11:30am C<o></o>
When they're not skiing and playing in deep snow, the biggest names in freeskiing use a helicopter to work on their segments Matchstick Productions' movie "Seven Sunny Days."<o

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World Premiere – Episode 6: "Freestyle Ski Jumping" TV-PG<o></o>
Premieres Saturday, December 8th at 12:30pm ET/ 9:30am PT/11:30am C<o></o>
The heroes of freestyle ski jumping build massive jumps and advance the sport of skiing while working on their segments for Matchstick Productions' "Seven Sunny Days." The episode climaxes with a Whistler Jump session, a private helicopter and an epic sunset. <o

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World Premiere – Episode 7: "Kayaking in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">Iceland</st1lace></st1:country-region>" TV-PG<o></o>
Premieres Saturday, December 15th at 12:30pm ET/ 9:30am PT/11:30am C<o></o>
Three champion kayakers run spectacular rapids in the geologic wonder of <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1

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Premieres Saturday, December 22nd at 12:30pm ET/ 9:30am PT/11:30am C<o></o>
This episode demonstrates mountain biking action at its finest, as a crew travels to film mountain bike phenoms Andreu and Luis Lacondeguy. The resulting dirt jumping footage is spectacular, as the entire Kona Klump team puts on an epic show. <o

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World Premiere – Episode 9: "Wakeboarding Radar and Powell" TV-PG<o></o>
Premieres Saturday, December 29th at 12:30pm ET/ 9:30am PT/11:30am C<o></o>
Wakeboarding legend Parks Bonifey and his Ronix teammates rip the hallowed ground of <st1

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This new and innovative series takes viewers on the ultimate journey behind-the-scenes to learn how their favorite products – everything from the best barbeque to the most magnificent mechanical devices – are made. Each episode features a "favorite thing" and includes commentary from both the consumers who love it and the experts who make it. This month, viewers learn how the best super cars, barbeques and tuner cars are done. <o

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Premieres Friday, December 14th at 8pm ET and PT/7pmC<o></o>
What if an automobile went from zero to 60 MPH in under three seconds, then from zero to 100 to zero MPH again… in under ten seconds? Viewers ready to spend a few hundred thousand dollars or completely empty their trust funds will thoroughly enjoy this week's episode when the secrets behind the fastest, sexiest, most powerful cars on the road today are revealed. <o

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World Premiere – Episode 10: "Barbecue" TV-??<o></o>
Premieres Friday, December 21st at 8pm ET and PT/7pmC<o></o>
Its time for viewers to lick their fingers and smack their lips as they head to the World Championship of Barbecue. This "Superbowl of Swine" is the nation's biggest barbecue competition and draws thousands of people who go hog wild, spending thousands of dollars to prove their BBQ is the best. <o

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World Premiere – Episode 11: "Tuner Cars" TV-??<o></o>
Premieres Friday, December 28th at 8pm ET and PT/7pmC<o></o>
Tuner cars run from the meticulous to the sublime. Some people customize the look or the sound, while others push them to new performance limits. This week, viewers get an inside look under the hood of tuner cars to see what makes them – and their owners – tick.<o

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Share the unique experience of classic racers who time-travel to the Golden Era of car racing to experience not only the speed and noise of Glory Days gone by, but the incredible atmosphere as well. Get in the driver's seat for the most spectacular series of international classic racing, where the most beautiful vintage racers ever built – 1950s and 60s Aston Martins, Ferraris, Maseratis, Porsches, Mustangs and Cobras – battle it out on the most glamorous original tracks around the world, including Spa (Belgium), the Nürburgring (Germany), Limerock and Laguna Seca (USA).<o

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World Premiere – Episode 3: "Nürburgring" TV-PG<o></o>
Premieres Tuesday, December 4th at 8pm ET & PT/7C<o></o>
Even inclement weather cannot deter classic racers from racing. This week, ten owners of Maserati 250Fs enter their classic cars in a race celebrating the 50th anniversary of Fangio's epic drive to win the 19th German Grand Prix.<o

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Premieres Tuesday, December 11th at 8pm ET & PT/7C<o></o>
This week, classic racing aficionados take a spin around the historic Laguna Seca Raceway. The historic automobile races held here pay tribute to motor racing history, historic automobiles and the people who made them. Each year, more than 375 of the finest historic race and sports cars are entered in 14 race groups that span nearly every era of motorsports history.<o

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Premieres Tuesday, December 25th at 8pm ET & PT/7C<o></o>
In this episode, classic car racers rev their engines on the starting grid of this famous circuit, where legendary racing drivers like Juan Manuel Fangio, Nino Farina, Alberto Ascari, Peter Collins, Tony Brooks, Jack Brabham, Phil Hill and Jim Clark won the Formula 1 Grand Prix.<o

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Chef Luke Mangan, one of <st1:country-region w:st="on">Australia</st1:country-region>'s brightest culinary stars, continues on his journey throughout the <st1

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In the capital city of the Land of the Rising Sun, time is money and food has evolved to cater to the busy residents of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1

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World Premiere - Episode 7: "<st1lace w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Manila</st1:City>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Philippines</st1:country-region></st1lace>" TV-G Premieres Wednesday, December 19th at 8:30pm ET/9:30pm PT/7:30C<o></o>
The chef stirs the pot in <st1

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The chef keeps things spicy in Mumbai, the birthplace of Bollywood. During a walk down the city's spice street, Mirchi Gauli with Chef Joy, he learns about the variety of spices typically used in Indian cuisine. Soon, Chef Joy has Mangan frying spices in the streets, leaving the chef feeling a like a true superstar when curious on-lookers gather round. <o

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World Premiere Monday, December 3rd at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="21" Minute="30">9:30pm</st1:time> ET/ <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="22" Minute="30">10:30pm</st1:time> PT/8:30C<o></o>
Host James Aguiar heads west and takes LA Fashion Week by storm. Viewers get a first look and listen as Aguiar interviews designers and top models, learns what the leading fashion editors think about the new collections, and gets the latest buzz from celebrities in the front row.<o

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In tonight's episode, Bravo TV's "Project Runway" Judge Tim Gunn, who, in his spare time, is Chair of the Department of Fashion Design at New York City's Parsons The New School for Design, shares his thoughts on the top three Spring 2008 Collections.<o

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Premieres Tuesday, December 18th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="21" Minute="30">9:30pm</st1:time> ET/ <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="22" Minute="30">10:30pm</st1:time> PT/8:30C<o></o>
This week, In Style Magazine's Fashion Director Hal Rubenstein offers his opinions about the top three Spring 2008 Collections.<o

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World Premiere – Episode 3 "Best of Spring 2008: Leon Hall TV-PG<o></o>
Premieres Wednesday, December 19th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="21" Minute="30">9:30pm</st1:time> ET/ <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="22" Minute="30">10:30pm</st1:time> PT/8:30C<o></o>
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World Premiere – Episode 4 "Best of Spring 2008: Michael Fink" TV-PG<o></o>
Premieres Thursday, December 20th at <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="21" Minute="30">9:30pm</st1:time> ET/ <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="22" Minute="30">10:30pm</st1:time> PT/8:30C<o></o>
Saks Fifth Avenue Fashion Director Michael Fink dishes on his three favorite Spring 2008 Collections on tonight's episode.<o

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dfergie

Dec 22, 2007

New REO Speedwagon Soundstage on right now...

ripnbigc

Dec 22, 2007

dfergie said:
New REO Speedwagon Soundstage on right now...

Dvr'd it it was great, much better than expected.

riffjim4069

Dec 22, 2007

Penny Revolution is very good and Animal Atlas looks interesting...

dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 3:47 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

We're less than 4 weeks away from Voyager 1 reaching a distance of one light day from Earth

I've always been super interested in things space related so this is a pretty cool event coming up. Nov 18, 2026 early in the morning, Voyager 1 will reach the distance of one full light day from Earth. Took almost 50 yrs. I was 13 when it launched.

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Foxbat

Today at 12:57 AM

So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…

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Bruce

Today at 3:47 AM

Foxbat said:
So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…

Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 2:37 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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sdfntx

Yesterday at 4:52 PM

Devil in Her Heart - The Beatles

long_time_Dish

Yesterday at 7:21 PM

Take Me To Heart - Quarterflash

ClarkGable

Yesterday at 10:03 PM

Take Me To The River - Talking Heads

long_time_Dish

Yesterday at 10:21 PM

Don't Take Me Alive - Steely Dan

hwkn

Today at 2:37 AM

TAKE On ME-A-Ha

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Bobby

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 12:42 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.

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Foxbat

Oct 15, 2026

Which is what is interesting, I see the 4KFox channel on 148-01 but we're not subscribed to our Locals. So why it's coming in is puzzling. I thought that maybe it was a perk for Dish subscribers for the MLB Postseason.

I set a Timer for the Indiana - Ohio State game on Saturday. I'll take advantage of it while I can.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 4:48 PM

Foxbat said:
I set a Timer for the Indiana - Ohio State game on Saturday. I'll take advantage of it while I can.

Even though it didn't work out for the Hoosiers, this event recorded and I was able to watch it in full 4K HDR.

Bobby said:
MLB, Rays at Brewers, Friday 10-23, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.

Timer is set to Record the Series. Thanks, Bobby!

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long_time_Dish

Yesterday at 7:25 PM

No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

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Jim5506

Today at 12:13 AM

long_time_Dish said:
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

It's on Prime.

long_time_Dish

Today at 12:20 AM

Jim5506 said:
It's on Prime.

Ah, ok, thanks!

Foxbat

Today at 12:42 AM

The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!

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jcrandall

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 12:07 AM · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum

Channels on DIRECTV Satellite and not on Stream/Internet

So...DirecTV advertises the Choice package with 95+ bonus channels for Satellite customers. You don't want 90+ of the 95...

Excluding PPV, premium networks, infomercial, shopping, religion, and non-English programming, there are 7 channels on satellite that are not on streaming:
NFL Network, MavTV, FE TV, Free Speech, NASA, INSP, and Pursuit. I'm pretty sure a couple of those are public interest that they have to carry to meet an FCC quota on satellite.

I hope they get called out for this advertising because that is ridiculous. One big network, NFL, will probably get added to streaming when their next agreement comes up, and the rest are likely very low viewership.

What about streaming, what do you get extra with the Choice package that isn't on Satellite:
Two stations - one of which is an internet TV - Fox Weather, and Heros & Icons (a diginet). Nothing special here to look at either.

If they cleaned up a couple of their agreements, added a few public interest stations to streaming, they could probably have their lineups match. It's close now, if you take out all the garbage on satellite that they earn money on. If they can sell infomercials on satellite, why can't they on streaming, seems like a miss. A bigger miss, including those stations in the "bonus channels just for satellite customers." Pretty sad marketing right there.

Attached is a comparison sheet of satellite vs streaming for the three main packages if anyone is interested.

MOD EDIT: See Post #3 for an up to date list of what channels are available on sat but not on streaming/internet, see Post #21 for an up to date list of what's available in the app for streaming customers, but not for sat customers.

DirecTV Sat vs Stream.pdf 46 KB

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mario315

Oct 14, 2026

Well, this is awkward. Today the Miami Heat announced that their games in West Palm Beach this season will be aired on WTCN Channel 43, the Sinclair independent... and the station which DTV Stream downgraded from HD to SD a few weeks ago. Makes you wonder if the Heat is aware of this.

I did find the WTCN Chief Engineer (Bill Macbeth) and he said he knew nothing of what DTV Stream had done. Will look into it and get back to me.

harshness

Oct 15, 2026

One might get the impression that what DIRECTV does, or doesn't, is becoming far less consequential than it used to be.

mario315

Yesterday at 11:55 PM

harshness said:
One might get the impression that what DIRECTV does, or doesn't, is becoming far less consequential than it used to be.

KyL416

Today at 12:00 AM

WPLG/10 Miami is now available to stream customers

The CW stations WCWW/25 South Bend and WBKP/5 Marquette are testing on the stream server

Last week they also added a bunch of CW stations that are still not available to sat customers:
WETM-DT/19 Elmira
WJET-DT/25 Erie
KLFY-DT/11 Lafayette LA
KARD-DT/15 Monroe
WVBT-DT/44 Norfolk
WTWO-DT/3 Terre Haute
WFXV-DT/34 Utica
KFDX-DT/4 Wichita Falls

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mario315

Today at 12:07 AM

Well, that was fast ! DTV Stream brought back WTCN's HD signal today.

I have to assume the station signing up a week ago as the Miami Heat affiliate here (to carry their games) did the trick. NBA magic !!!

Or the station engineer took care of the problem after hearing about it.

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niembre

Last reply Yesterday at 11:48 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

OTA no working after Update

My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?

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Briant73

Wednesday at 9:19 PM

Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.

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Almighty1

Wednesday at 9:48 PM

Briant73 said:
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.

No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.

https://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/th...ftware-version-713-is-out.423921/post-5108817

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dishstaller

Wednesday at 9:57 PM

Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.

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navychop

Wednesday at 11:21 PM

In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.

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brittanygarden

Thursday at 6:24 PM

Hi all. If you were using a single tuner USB OTA adapter that is no longer working, please PM me. Thanks.

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Jim5506

Yesterday at 11:48 PM

brittanygarden said:
Hi all. If you were using a single tuner USB OTA adapter that is no longer working, please PM me. Thanks.

I have the dual tuner OTA adapter currently connected, but I have 2 of the single tuner OTA adapters that I can quickly connect - neither is seen by my H3.

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JSheridan

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Yesterday at 11:17 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.

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navychop

Oct 3, 2026

Years down the road

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renjy651

Oct 4, 2026

navychop said:
Years down the road

Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.

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Mister B

Oct 5, 2026

renjy651 said:
Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.

I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.

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zippyfrog

Oct 5, 2026

Mister B said:
I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.

This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.

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navychop

Oct 5, 2026

zippyfrog said:
This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.

CONTRACTS!

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Henry Sanchez

Yesterday at 5:21 PM

What about the commercial services? will they keep using single Stacked or DP single/dual LNB's?

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telstar_1

Yesterday at 5:58 PM

navychop said:
CONTRACTS!

At this point one can only ask whether any live ch's are still distributed in SD. Other than maybe "classics" ch's that run only older stuff

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Strega

Yesterday at 10:01 PM

Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:15 PM

telstar_1 said:
At this point one can only ask whether any live ch's are still distributed in SD. Other than maybe "classics" ch's that run only older stuff

Personally, I would HATE to see a SD Channel at this point.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:17 PM

Strega said:
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Yesterday at 11:01 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

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TRG

Wednesday at 6:41 PM

Jimbo said:
I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.

I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.

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Jimbo

Wednesday at 7:05 PM

TRG said:
I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.

Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz

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NYDutch

Wednesday at 7:39 PM

Jimbo said:
Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz

We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.

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Jimbo

Wednesday at 8:54 PM

NYDutch said:
We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.

Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"

NYDutch

Thursday at 7:44 AM

Juan said:
You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight

Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only. Only the shipping weight should include the packaging.

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harshness

Thursday at 9:21 AM

NYDutch said:
Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only.

Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner.

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).

Jimbo

Thursday at 9:27 AM

harshness said:
Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner.

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).

I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only

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harshness

Yesterday at 4:42 PM

Jimbo said:
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only.

You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 5:08 PM

harshness said:
You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.

Thats ridiculous ....

Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.
They need to CHANGE that.

harshness

Yesterday at 6:50 PM

Jimbo said:
Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.

Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.

TRG

Yesterday at 8:38 PM

Jimbo said:
Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"

I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 9:16 PM

harshness said:
Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.

What ever I get out of the Deli is put into a container when I ask them for it, they weight the container and then add the deli product, thats the way its suppose to be, if the rest of the world is screwing you, you should try the place down the street.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 9:20 PM

TRG said:
I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.

$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 9:24 PM

Jimbo said:
$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.

I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.

Juan

Yesterday at 9:25 PM

Jimbo said:
What ever I get out of the Deli is put into a container when I ask them for it, they weight the container and then add the deli product, thats the way its suppose to be, if the rest of the world is screwing you, you should try the place down the street.

They are probably cheating you by swapping store brand product for name brand...those store deli's are very sketchy

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Bobby

Yesterday at 9:37 PM

$5.69 for the 48oz of Rocky Road at my Walmart.

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Bobby

Yesterday at 9:40 PM

Jimbo said:
I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.

22g per serving.

Juan

Yesterday at 9:51 PM

Bobby said:
22g per serving.

How much is a serving?

Bobby

Yesterday at 9:58 PM

Juan said:
How much is a serving?

2/3 of a cup, a large scoop.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:46 PM

Juan said:
They are probably cheating you by swapping store brand product for name brand...those store deli's are very sketchy

They are made every day at this place ... it's a little Ma and Pop store ...

When ever I order something, they weigh the container (like everyone is suppose to) then weigh the product, so you actually get what your paying for lb wise ...

Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:47 PM

Bobby said:
22g per serving.

Thats about the same as the Bryers I get, I just have smaller portions.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:48 PM

Juan said:
How much is a serving?

2/3rds of a cup or 9 servings per container.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:01 PM

Bobby said:
$5.69 for the 48oz of Rocky Road at my Walmart.

Apparently my local Walmart doesn't carry that brand Tillamook ...
Kroger does .... Vanilla Bean $7.49 for 1.5 quart

Up here I have options of :
Vanilla Bean, French Vanilla, Cookies and Cream, Mud Slide and Strawberry

I will try the Strawberry and see what I think, IF the Sugar isn't any more than 22g ... it's Quite expensive.

Target does show it, cheaper, $5.99, however thier website says Not Sold in Store, closest store that carries it is 39 Miles away ....
I guess I better wait till WINTER to get it .. if it's that far away.

I'll have to check and see if Meijer has it ... YES they do ... $7.49 and a variety of Flavors

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SuperDish_Fan23

Last reply Yesterday at 10:33 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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Almighty1

Thursday at 8:53 PM

I remember this in the news too...

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.

www.nbcnews.com

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Bobby

Thursday at 9:21 PM

Almighty1 said:
I remember this in the news too...

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.

www.nbcnews.com

That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.

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HIFI

Yesterday at 12:44 AM

anybody remember this disaster ?

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SuperDish_Fan23

Yesterday at 4:24 PM

SuperDish_Fan23 said:
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 5:51 PM

SuperDish_Fan23 said:
Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wL6dsORmXg

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telstar_1

Yesterday at 5:58 PM

Slicker guides never did much for me

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 10:33 PM

Bobby said:
That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.

Good point as part of that time mentioned was before I was even alive.

While reports from the family's case focused entirely on the equipment rental charges, media records show that Ester Strogen originally started by paying $29.95 per quarter ($9.98 per month) in the 1960s for her combined telephone connection.
The actual base cost for standard residential telephone service over a 42-year period (spanning roughly 1964 to 2006) reveals how basic connection costs evolved compared to the equipment rental fees:

Historical Phone Service Rates

1960s – 1970s Base Rate: Standard local phone service was heavily subsidized and tightly regulated under the Bell System monopoly. A basic landline package with unlimited local calling typically cost between $5.00 and $10.00 per month.
1980s – 2000s Post-Deregulation Rate: Following the AT&T divestiture in 1984, base line service rates steadily climbed due to the introduction of subscriber line charges, touch-tone fees, and local infrastructure adjustments. By 2006, basic flat-rate local residential phone service hovered around $15.00 to $25.00 per month (excluding long-distance packages and taxes).

The True Lifetime Service Bill

Assuming an average baseline connection fee of roughly $12.00 a month over that 42-year span, the line connectivity itself would have realistically accumulated to approximately $6,000 in raw cash payouts.
When you bundle the actual service costs together with the escalating equipment rental fees, the total cumulative out-of-pocket phone expenses over those four decades easily crossed $12,000 to $14,000. Long-distance phone calls—which were billed entirely by the minute back then and could cost up to 15 to 30 cents per minute—would add significantly more to that historical total depending on usage.

The widely publicized calculation stems from a viral news story from 2006 involving a widow named Ester Strogen. Her family discovered she had been continuously leasing two rotary dial telephones from AT&T for 42 years.
The total cost—which actually came out to more than $14,000 by the time the lease was canceled—was calculated based on the following legacy telecom structure:

The Monthly Fee: At the time her granddaughters discovered the charges, the ongoing leasing fee was $29.10 per month for the two outdated phones.
The Math: Over 42 years (504 months), paying roughly $24 to $30 a month accumulates to between $12,000 and $14,600 ($29.10 × 504 months = $14,666.40).

Why did this happen?
Prior to the landmark breakup of AT&T ("Ma Bell") in 1984, consumers were legally not allowed to own their phones; they were required to lease them directly from the phone company.
When the laws changed and phone ownership became legal, AT&T spun off its rental division into a company called QLT Consumer Lease Services. Millions of customers, particularly elderly individuals who were used to seeing a single unified phone bill, simply never realized that the small recurring "equipment lease" line-item could be canceled by buying a cheap phone at a retail store.

Yes, leasing absolutely cost that much in reality, and the math is entirely accurate. However, the calculations performed by the family did contain one major historical nuance: they multiplied the final 2006 rate across all 42 years, which means the actual total cash paid out was likely a bit lower.
The original viral story focused on 82-year-old widow Ester Strogen from Canton, Ohio, who paid $29.10 a month for two black rotary phones until her family intervened in July 2006.
The reality behind how the cost reached that staggering total breaks down into two distinct phases:

Phase 1: The Historical Base Rate (1960s – 1984)

When Strogen first got the phones in the 1960s, renting was a legal mandate and cost a fraction of the 2006 price—usually just a few dollars a month.

The "Insurance" Mirage: In exchange for that fee, Ma Bell promised free, lifetime maintenance. If the phone broke, they replaced it instantly at no extra cost.
The Cost-Plus Reality: Because these solid-state phones were built like tanks out of heavy plastic and steel, they almost never broke. Consumers paid a continuous premium for decades for a repair service they rarely used.

Phase 2: The Deregulation Rate Hikes (1984 – 2006)

After AT&T was forced to break up its monopoly in 1984, the rental side of the business was shifted to Lucent Technologies and later a legacy holding company. To maximize profit off a shrinking customer base, they steadily increased the monthly rental fees over the next 20 years.

By 2006, the rental cost had quietly ballooned to roughly $14.55 per phone per month.
When the family discovered the $29.10 monthly charge, they looked back at the 42-year span and estimated the collective loss at over $14,000.

Even adjusted for historical inflation—where $2 a month in 1964 had the purchasing power of roughly $20 today—Ester Strogen and hundreds of thousands of other elderly Americans realistically paid thousands of dollars out-of-pocket for standard desk phones they could have purchased at retail for $10.

The exact out-of-pocket dollar amount Ester Strogen paid over those 42 years was never publicly determined, as neither AT&T nor the family had access to monthly billing records stretching all the way back to the 1960s.
The figures reported in the media are entirely mathematical estimates based on the 2006 rate. The two primary numbers used to define the "cost" are:

The Stated Media Total: More than $14,000.
The Exact Family Formula: $14,666.40. This was derived by taking her final recorded bill of $29.10 per month and multiplying it across the full 42 years (504 months).

What the True Cash Cost Likely Was

Because AT&T did not charge $29.10 a month back in 1964, the true historical cash sum she handed over was lower than $14,000. In the 1960s and 1970s, basic phone lease fees were generally bundled into standard service or itemized at just $1.00 to $2.00 a month per phone.
If we realistically assume she paid lower base rates for the first 20 years before the post-1984 deregulation price hikes took effect, a realistic estimate of the actual cash paid is between $5,000 and $7,000.

The Real Cost When Adjusted for Inflation

While the family's $14,000 calculation overestimates the raw cash paid, it actually underestimates the true economic damage when factoring in the time value of money.
Paying $2.00 a month for equipment in 1964 sounds minor, but due to severe inflation during the 1970s, those early single dollars had the purchasing power of roughly $20.00 each in 2006 terms. If you adjust every historical lower monthly payment upward to account for inflation, Ester Strogen realistically lost the equivalent of well over $15,000 in modern purchasing power by renting instead of buying.

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