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Last reply Mar 27, 2008 · posted in The Chit Chat Club

NFL & Big Ten on Cable... Only If It’s a Fair Deal for Customers

Just recently after the Patriots vs Giants game this showed on Charter.com website:

College Football Information

Give Us the Games, Not the Hustle

Putting Fans First is a new coalition of sports superfans and consumers uniting to address the soaring cost of sports programming. For more information, please visit Fans First.

Charter continues to bring our customers the BEST in football including Big Ten games, NFL games and football highlights OnDemand! Plus, our customers don't have to miss a moment of the action with the HD-ready Charter DVR. Be sure to check back for the most up to date information on Big Ten games and more. More than 250 college match-ups and around 100 NFL games during the 2007 football season.

NFL & Big Ten on Cable... Only If It's a Fair Deal for Customers

Charter Communications and other cable operators around the country have been told by our customers that they want more choice in the programming they pay for, and they want to pay a reasonable price for it. That is at the heart of Charter's position to not just accept the unreasonable demands being made by the NFL Network and the Big Ten Network for carriage of their Networks on our channel lineup.
We want a reasonable solution for sports fans. Charter wants to carry both of these sports networks for you and we understand the value these networks offer those who enjoy professional and college sports; especially communities that features teams in both Leagues. Although the majority of games are presently on cable, we know that every game is a must-see when it involves a team you follow.
Both the NFL Network and the Big Ten Network publicly state that Charter is withholding games from our customers. We're grateful that many of you recall that the games now on both League-owned Networks that come with a high-price tag for every cable customer used to be free on broadcast TV. Both networks demand that their programming be part of our Expanded Basic service delivered to virtually all customers, including those not interested in NFL or Big Ten sports. Both the NFL Network and the Big Ten Network have rejected our request to carry their programming on Charter's fan-based Digital Sports View Tier.
The Big Ten Network and the NFL Network are expensive and we don't believe that the majority of our Expanded Basic customers should be compelled to absorb the high cost of services they might not have much, if any, interest in. Many of you have told us they agree.
We know that consumers want more choice in what programming channels are available to them more control of the cost for that programming. Carriage of the NFL Network and Big Ten Network on our Digital Sports View Tier would honor that request. However, we must have the two network's permission. Other cable operators are taking the same position with NFL and Big Ten Network as Charter with the same goal -- to make the entertainment service the best value in the marketplace.
Charter believes it should be able to carry the NFL Network and the Big Ten Network for a reasonable monthly fee on our Digital Sports View Tier, where only sports fans who want to watch these Networks pay for it. We believe that's a reasonable request, and one that respects all your best interests - sports fans and non-sports fans alike.
Ultimately, it's got to be a fair deal for you.

Link: Charter Communications - College Sports

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Milwaukee12

Jan 1, 2008

I recently heard something to the effect that the BTN and NFLN want $.90 per subscriber. ESPN gets over $2.00 per subscriber. Can someone tell me how the BTN and NFLN are hurting fans? ESPN is available on all packages on all cable and satellite providers. That's what BTN and NFLN want as well. I don't see why people complain about those networks without first looking into the facts about sports programming.

stevenl

Jan 1, 2008

Icewolf just an fyi cable companies don't pay a dime for any channel they have.

Chinatown

Jan 1, 2008

Am I missing something, here

IcEWoLF said:
Just recently after the Patriots vs Giants game this showed on Charter.com website:

I had both "D" & now "E", since NFL & BIG TEN Networks came available.

I did not see a fee increase from either company. Did they both absorb the cost?.................If so, what is the problem with the cable companies.

Please, someone clarify.......................

stevenl

Jan 2, 2008

Chinatown said:
I had both "D" & now "E", since NFL & BIG TEN Networks came available.

I did not see a fee increase from either company. Did they both absorb the cost?.................If so, what is the problem with the cable companies.

Please, someone clarify.......................

Just like cable companies the sat companies usally only raise their price once a year, so until the "Yearly Increase" When they add new channels they absorb the impact. But they do adjust the price to reflect the new channels during the annual increase. When you notice the companies do their yearly increases its because of many things, including the addition of channels and the rise of prices to have those channels. The cable/dish companies have a set % they want to keep for profit. Be it 10% 15% or 5% whatever their "Operating margin is" So the yearly increase will be whatever the difference is in the "Cost of operating" and maintaining that margin.

Chinatown

Mar 25, 2008

stevenl said:
Just like cable companies the sat companies usally only raise their price once a year, so until the "Yearly Increase" When they add new channels they absorb the impact. But they do adjust the price to reflect the new channels during the annual increase. When you notice the companies do their yearly increases its because of many things, including the addition of channels and the rise of prices to have those channels. The cable/dish companies have a set % they want to keep for profit. Be it 10% 15% or 5% whatever their "Operating margin is" So the yearly increase will be whatever the difference is in the "Cost of operating" and maintaining that margin.

I still haven't seen an increase..........When should I expect it?

thecristman

Mar 26, 2008

stevenl said:
Icewolf just an fyi cable companies don't pay a dime for any channel they have.

What world do you live in? Except for locals, cable companies pay for every channel they broadcast. Those stations don't run for free.

stevenl

Mar 26, 2008

thecristman said:
What world do you live in? Except for locals, cable companies pay for every channel they broadcast. Those stations don't run for free.

No they do not. The cable company does not pay for any channel. You pay for it. The cable company only transfers the money from you to them.

stevenl

Mar 26, 2008

Chinatown said:
I still haven't seen an increase..........When should I expect it?

Well everyone else in the country who has any sat or cable company get the yearly increases in costs.. You must be the only person in the nation who doesn't, Please advise me how you got that deal, id like to try it also.

thecristman

Mar 27, 2008

Milwaukee12 said:
I recently heard something to the effect that the BTN and NFLN want $.90 per subscriber. ESPN gets over $2.00 per subscriber. Can someone tell me how the BTN and NFLN are hurting fans? ESPN is available on all packages on all cable and satellite providers. That's what BTN and NFLN want as well. I don't see why people complain about those networks without first looking into the facts about sports programming.

You ask about facts? How about the fact that ESPN covers every sport know to man with no specific team or league allegence. BTN and NFLN are specific leagues that are in fact wanted by a much lower audience. An example is, my State, Iowa, has been the site of the Mediacom battling the Big Ten Network over putting thier network on their systems for free. But when a survey was done in the state, fewer than 10% of the total population in the state said they would watch it. So why should a cable company be forced to provide something the majority of its viewers will not watch? Cable and satellite companies are for profit companies. Why should a company be forced to provide for free soemthing that less that 10% of their customers want?

It's all about money. The cable and satellite providers need to provide a free service to all thier customers for a select few who even want it. The BTN and NFLN are all about money, they spew crap to make you believe that your provider is being unfair, but the truth is they just want more money for themselves.

And the real bottom line is that if you need to watch a league specific network to see your team play, then your team must suck because good teams are on ESPN or one of their alternative channels anyway.

And by the way, I have watched some of the BTN games on my Dish and the programming they provide is not worth paying extra for. The local cable company here showing the local high schools games do a better job. BTN presentations are amatueurish in comparison.

thecristman

Mar 27, 2008

stevenl said:
No they do not. The cable company does not pay for any channel. You pay for it. The cable company only transfers the money from you to them.

Duh!! Where did you learn about business from? What does any business do? Buy products from one source to sell to you. What about the costs of transmission equipment and lines and installation? Do you think they should do that for free?
The cable company has to account for every customer they provide a channel to and pay a fee for that to the company providing it.
Just like a car dealer buys a car from the factory and then sells it to you, or a furniture store buys from a factory and sells it to you. Besides a product, they must also provide support, that is not free.

I sincerely hope you are not a business owner, because you don't have a clue as to how it works.

stevenl

Mar 27, 2008

Huh? As I said the cable company does not pay for a single channel, you do. You pay for every channel. If they add another channel that cost 3$ a month guess whos paying for it? You not them, its not coming from their profits. How is this hard for you to grasp? Yes they have to pay for the lines and serviceing etc, which comes from your monthly bill as well.. Take The Sat companies for instance, someone has posted on this board that I think Dish only spends like 30-40% of its income on programming costs, that means 40% of your bill goes to pay for channels, the rest covers the overhead+profit. So if their programming cost goes up whatever% because of a channel being added or channels wanting more money, The cable company is not taking a profit cut, they pass it on to you, which is why I say they dont pay for a single channel you cover the cost of all the channels. They also dont pay taxes,

Maybe you should read a book in business economics. Because itll tell ya any successful business does not pay for anything out of its 'own' money, they have customers for that. Spend your profits you go broke.

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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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reubenray

Last reply Today at 10:36 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Laptop Shutting Off When On Battery?

Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.

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arlo

Today at 10:09 AM

A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.

dishstaller

Today at 10:36 AM

arlo said:
That's all I got.

That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks

TRG

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Starlink Router question

I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

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b4pjoe

Saturday at 2:12 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.

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HipKat

Saturday at 11:07 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc

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Foxbat

Sunday at 12:44 AM

TRG said:
…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.

harshness

Sunday at 11:46 AM

If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

Starlink V5 Is Here: What RVers Need to Know

Overview of the new Starlink V5 model along with comparison to the previous V4 model along with a recommended setup for mobile internet users.

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Foxbat

Today at 10:27 AM

Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

I think we could all use a laugh - Rodney Dangerfield on Carson

Good...simple humor. Enjoy

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Today at 12:37 AM

Not Rodney, but a laugh ...

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dishstaller

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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.

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Last reply Today at 10:17 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

At least 64 dead in Spanish passenger train collision

Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:24 AM

dishstaller said:
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.

dishstaller

Today at 10:17 AM

Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.

The safest seat to sit on in a train

Safety experts have shared top tips on train safety after a fatal railway crash in Spain killed 69 people, including where the safest place is in an emergency.

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