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teachsac
Not a problem. Just get it OTA. Would I like to see Fox on Dish? Yes, but not a deal breaker and I will be able to view it just fine and without Dish compression.

S~
TRSmudge
Only way in to get Fox HD in our area is if you have Charter Cable.....
TRSmudge

WAUSAU, WISCONSIN -- – WFXS-FOX55'S recent deal with Charter Cable to carry the station's High Definition (HDTV) feed will allow Charter subscribers and their friends to watch this year's Superbowl in HD. According to Robert Raff, WFXS's Vice President and General Manager, "Charter customers who own a high-definition TV will now find WFXS, FOX55 on cable channel 785 in high definition quality. WFXS is providing Charter with a direct HD feed via Charter's fiber optic cable from the station's downtown Wausau studio."
WFXS is currently working with the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to construct a full HD broadcast facility to be completed later this year. FCC rules and laws regulate what a station must do to establish an over-the-air digital broadcast signal, however, the station is permitted to provide the signal to cable or satellite operators capable of transporting the signal from the studio to their customers. Raff says the signal would also be made available to any other cable providers with the ability to get the HDTV signal in a similar manner. At this time, Charter is the only provider with a fiber connection to WFXS.
"Charter is very pleased to add WFXS to our array of popular high-definition services," commented Lisa Washa, Vice President and General Manager of Charter in Wisconsin. "We know this is quality programming that adds to the value our customers with HD television sets want, and we feel it's another benefit for our customers in the investment we have made in our fiber optic network."
WFXS is the FOX network affiliate for north central Wisconsin and Charter is the leading video, high-speed Internet and telephone provider in the area. The FOX TV Network has been a leader in HDTV program production for several years and Charter carries over 20 HD channels and over one hundred options of high definition programming, including Video-on-Demand throughout the region.
J
Not a problem. Just get it OTA. Would I like to see Fox on Dish? Yes, but not a deal breaker and I will be able to view it just fine and without Dish compression.

S~

The Sacramento local HD stations are not compressed by E* at this time because E* only carries 4 of them on the spotbeam. If they start to carry FOX the compression may begin because they will have to add the CW channel (both owned by Tribune) so 6 HD channels on one spotmean can be tight.

Still since FOX is 720p, a little compression wouldn't make it look bad, now the CBS HD and NBC HD will look bad because they are 1080i.

Interestingly DirecTV today allowed its HD viewers to watch the FOX HD game on CH701, a MPEG4 HD channel available nationwide. The feed was from FOX in NYC but most all HD subs nationwide could watch it.

Maybe E* should try a similar arrangement in the future.
wyattg
The Sacramento local HD stations are not compressed by E* at this time because E* only carries 4 of them on the spotbeam. If they start to carry FOX the compression may begin because they will have to add the CW channel (both owned by Tribune) so 6 HD channels on one spotmean can be tight.

Still since FOX is 720p, a little compression wouldn't make it look bad, now the CBS HD and NBC HD will look bad because they are 1080i.

Interestingly DirecTV today allowed its HD viewers to watch the FOX HD game on CH701, a MPEG4 HD channel available nationwide. The feed was from FOX in NYC but most all HD subs nationwide could watch it.

Maybe E* should try a similar arrangement in the future.

I believe the CW channel in Sacramento is owned by CBS as KOVR is an O&O CBS station and they even use the same website.
whatchel1
What this really says

Only way in to get Fox HD in our area is if you have Charter Cable.....
TRSmudge

WAUSAU, WISCONSIN -- – WFXS-FOX55'S recent deal with Charter Cable to carry the station's High Definition (HDTV) feed will allow Charter subscribers and their friends to watch this year's Superbowl in HD. According to Robert Raff, WFXS's Vice President and General Manager, "Charter customers who own a high-definition TV will now find WFXS, FOX55 on cable channel 785 in high definition quality. WFXS is providing Charter with a direct HD feed via Charter's fiber optic cable from the station's downtown Wausau studio."
WFXS is currently working with the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to construct a full HD broadcast facility to be completed later this year. FCC rules and laws regulate what a station must do to establish an over-the-air digital broadcast signal, however, the station is permitted to provide the signal to cable or satellite operators capable of transporting the signal from the studio to their customers. Raff says the signal would also be made available to any other cable providers with the ability to get the HDTV signal in a similar manner. At this time, Charter is the only provider with a fiber connection to WFXS.
"Charter is very pleased to add WFXS to our array of popular high-definition services," commented Lisa Washa, Vice President and General Manager of Charter in Wisconsin. "We know this is quality programming that adds to the value our customers with HD television sets want, and we feel it's another benefit for our customers in the investment we have made in our fiber optic network."
WFXS is the FOX network affiliate for north central Wisconsin and Charter is the leading video, high-speed Internet and telephone provider in the area. The FOX TV Network has been a leader in HDTV program production for several years and Charter carries over 20 HD channels and over one hundred options of high definition programming, including Video-on-Demand throughout the region.

What this statement is saying is that the station didn't get it's s**t together to broadcast it signal in HD OTA. So they have the signal but have not put in the OTA transmitter yet. The cable co's have run a fiber to the station so the station didn't have to put out in $$ for that. I would bet that the digital transmitter will miraculously come on line before 2-17-09.
R
Well I had the same problem as the originial poster since I'm in the Sacramento locals area. Everyone speaks of the antenna solution like it's a piece of cake, but it's often not. Let's not forget that putting up an antenna to get HD can be a royal pain in the arse, especially if you have to get up on a tall ladder to mount an outdoor one and drill through walls and such, and even more importantly, get your wife to buy into the idea. Sometimes even if you live relatively close to a broadcast tower, you may have trouble getting a good signal due to ghosting and obstructions.

With that said, I got VERY lucky and was able to watch the game in full HD yesterday.

I live in Folsom, some 40 miles from our towers. I long ago ruled out an outdoor antenna due to hassle factor and risk (I have a two story house so the eves are way the hell up there and I don't own ladder tall enough, plus I'm nervous of heights). I've had spotty success getting a solid signal with an indoor Zenith directional antenna from the downstairs of my house.

But recently I completed constructing my projection home theater in an upstairs bonus room, and it's set up with it's own Dish DVR (the 722). A few days before the Big Game, I hooked up my indoor antenna up there, and pulled a 100% signal from Fox40! Could hardly believe it. I don't even have the antenna near a window. I just set it on the floor behind the rear row of theater seats, aiming in the direction of the towers, through an interior and exterior wall of the house. I'm using a Radio Shack 2 piece signal amplifier. And I'm getting this rock-solid signal. The other locals are coming in at 75-90% strength.

I'm really lucky because the positioning of my house, my theater, and having everything on the 2nd floor made it very convenient to hook this up and get a really good signal.

But most aren't so lucky. Many of us signed up with satellite service so as to not have to hassle with antennas. So I really want to see Tribune and Dish settle on this soon. Hopefully when Dish gets their new birds going, they'll re-engage Tribune in some earnest negotiations to get this solved.
MikeMara
Both Sacramento and Seattle Fox (tribune owned) stations have essentially the same verbiage posted in their websites essentially stating that DISH customers need to pressure DISH. From my conversations with Seattle KCPQ (God forbid DISH actually engages with their customers), the issue appears to be dormant although the glimmer of hope was that things could change in a matter of days. I repeat ad naseum that the more DISH and Tribune hear from affected consumers, the odds get better in getting some movement. Right now I feel taken for granted by both parties and, as I have stated numerous times before, not having Fox overrides any other HD programming issues. If the two parties simply will not agree, we should be advised and plan to either accept the status quo or move on- the lack of acknowledgement of this issue on DISH's part is bizarre. Urgh.
R
My feeling, as stated elsewhere in this forum, is that negotiations stalled a while back, and Dish let it drop for a while because they are consumed with trying to add more cities to their HD Locals list and juggle bandwidth among the TPs. My feeling is Dish would rather add more cities to the HD locals list than more channels in each city. Looks better from a marketing standpoint. And customers may not really notice too much for the most part, EXCEPT when the Big Game happens to be on the missing channel and the big box stores are pushing plasmas out the door with the selling point that you can watch the Big Game in HD.

Hopefully, with the new birds launching this year, Dish will come back to the bargaining table.
dishstaller
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I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


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You are paying for the whole thing
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
Jimbo
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
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I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
Jimbo
I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
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NYDutch
Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.
Jimbo
We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.
Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"
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Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"
I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
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I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.
Jimbo
I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
1st Big Question is ... How Much Sugar is in it and Sodium and Carbs ...
I' m really not suppose to have Ice Cream, or at least Moderately ....
Depending on the amount of sugar and sodium (don't think theres sodium in it, but Carbs probably is.)
Jimbo
$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.
I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.
Bobby
$5.69 for the 48oz of Rocky Road at my Walmart.
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I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.
22g per serving.
Juan
22g per serving.
How much is a serving?
Bobby
How much is a serving?
2/3 of a cup, a large scoop.
Jimbo
$5.69 for the 48oz of Rocky Road at my Walmart.
Apparently my local Walmart doesn't carry that brand Tillamook ...
Kroger does .... Vanilla Bean $7.49 for 1.5 quart

Up here I have options of :
Vanilla Bean, French Vanilla, Cookies and Cream, Mud Slide and Strawberry

I will try the Strawberry and see what I think, IF the Sugar isn't any more than 22g ... it's Quite expensive.

Target does show it, cheaper, $5.99, however thier website says Not Sold in Store, closest store that carries it is 39 Miles away ....
I guess I better wait till WINTER to get it .. if it's that far away.

I'll have to check and see if Meijer has it ... YES they do ... $7.49 and a variety of Flavors
navychop
2/3 of a cup, a large scoop.

Awwww. You missed your chance to say "22 grams."
navychop
don't think theres sodium in it

According to "Miss A"" there is. Especially for higher end ones.
Jimbo
According to "Miss A"" there is. Especially for higher end ones.
I did look into that ... the ones I get have about 65mg, which is very little ... but then I wouldn't expect much to be in Ice Cream.
Carbs are more than I would have liked ...
Bobby
I did look into that ... the ones I get have about 65mg, which is very little ... but then I wouldn't expect much to be in Ice Cream.
Carbs are more than I would have liked ...
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Apparently my local Walmart doesn't carry that brand Tillamook ...
Kroger does .... Vanilla Bean $7.49 for 1.5 quart

Up here I have options of :
Vanilla Bean, French Vanilla, Cookies and Cream, Mud Slide and Strawberry

I will try the Strawberry and see what I think, IF the Sugar isn't any more than 22g ... it's Quite expensive.

Target does show it, cheaper, $5.99, however thier website says Not Sold in Store, closest store that carries it is 39 Miles away ....
I guess I better wait till WINTER to get it .. if it's that far away.

I'll have to check and see if Meijer has it ... YES they do ... $7.49 and a variety of Flavors
It goes on sale all the time here. Like NOW! I'm gonna go stock up today. This is at Albertsons.
BTW I don't buy Ice cream for it's nutritional value. But I understand that some people need to keep an eye on that sort of thing for personal health reasons.

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Bruce
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I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Jimbo
And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...

You have services like Hulu Live and You Tube TV that do, what you call Cable, but they ARE Streaming, so Which is is ?

Does it get counted 2x as both Streaming and Cable ?
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But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

Q.
Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
b4pjoe
But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

Q.
Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
But they are basically airing a number of live channels just like Broadcast, Cable, and Others so that is why they are counted that way.
Bruce
But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

Q.
Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
Same.

Ratings for streaming content is extremely accurate, since the service knows who is watching what and when, when we hit ok on our remotes.

Ratings for Broadcast/Cable shows has always been a estimate.
Jimbo
Same.

Ratings for streaming content is extremely accurate, since the service knows who is watching what and when, when we hit ok on our remotes.

Ratings for Broadcast/Cable shows has always been a estimate.
If I flip thru shows on an app, 3-4 in a few minutes, does that still show that I watched the whole episode ?


If I watch the Super Bowl for 5 minutes, does that count as watching the Super Bowl ?
Is it the same if I just watched the Commercials.
Bruce
If I flip thru shows on an app, 3-4 in a few minutes, does that still show that I watched the whole episode ?


If I watch the Super Bowl for 5 minutes, does that count as watching the Super Bowl ?
Is it the same if I just watched the Commercials.
Nielsen Streaming Ratings: Third-party measurement firm Nielsen tracks U.S. streaming viewership, releasing weekly reports that measure total minutes viewed across major television sets, broken down by program (such as original, acquired, and movie content) rather than minute-by-minute audience retention curves.
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Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...
Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.
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Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.
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IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.
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IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.
Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko? It's slim pickings out there anymore. The FTA market in the US has pretty much been abandoned.

This would likely be your best bet, and Rick is a good seller. I've never had any issues with him:

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K
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Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
MikeD-C05
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
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I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
K
I just thought her behavior, including the bare feet thing, was disrespectful to her position.
harshness
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes.
That is your right.

I couldn't buy hiding behind the dirty-feet argument.
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Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
TheForce
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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TheForce
Heard a story from one of the Apple influencers on YT that the 18PM has a bug where it stops connecting to AT&T service. Doesn't affect Verizon or T-Mobile. Apple is replacing the phones. Anyone else hear of this? Defective Modem?
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Defective Modem?
It seems the phone gets locked into Sat mode. A software patch is coming to avoid that pitfall, but it comes too late for those who already fell in.

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Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


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If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.
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No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!
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Bruce
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Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
S
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.
dishdude
people are moving to fiber, which is better up and down and also not Comcast.
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

Cord cutting 2.0. Not just fiber, 5G is really taking a toll on the cable companies.
AZ.
AZ.
Cord cutting 2.0. Not just fiber, 5G is really taking a toll on the cable companies.
I agree, for $35 it aint perfect but just as reliable as my cable was. And that was twice as much and still rising
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Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
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Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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