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RTCDude
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Folks,

I've had a 1000.2 dish for about a year now. When I first set it up, I could never it get aligned properly so that 129 come in. Instead, I had the classic problem of getting 119 on the 129 horn, and 110 on the 119 horn. This hasn't been a problem up to now since I only had two 5xx receivers that really didn't need 129. But since I had already spent too many hours trying to align the dish, I just left it with this misaligned, but acceptable alignment.

Now I'm not a professional installer, but over the course of the last dozen years or so I've installed 50 or more Dish or Direct systems for family, friends, and friends of friends. I've always been very meticulous with mounting alignment. Hence, I've always been able to hit the correct bird within about fifteen minutes or less with just a compass (with the exception of one dish that was bent). So I was always very perplexed as to why it seems impossible for me to align this 1000.2. This was however the first 1000.2 I had attempted, and just figured there was just something I was doing wrong.

This January I replaced my 501 with a 722, and now wanted the 129 bird. After many hours of frustrating adjusting and readjusting, I finally lucked out and happened to hit all three birds properly.

The issue had been the elevation. The pointing table instructions that came the dish said to use 46 degrees elevation for my ZIP, 95037. Now we all know that the real elevation can vary by a degree or two, and I took that into account in my previous alignment attempts. However, the actual peaked elevation turned out to be 51 degrees (which is far further than I ever tried, and why I never found it).

That brings up the question, has anyone else seen these printed tables being so far off? This was a brand new dish and didn't seem to be defective in any way.
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RandallA
"You probably have the skew set as well, but the 129 sits at a lower elevation than the 110/119."

That depends on your location. Here in the West coast, 129 is 1 or 2 degrees higher than 110.

To the OP, looks like your mast is not plumb and that's why your elevation is way off. Having said that, yes for a 1000.2 the tables are off maybe 1 or 2 degrees.
RTCDude
"You probably have the skew set as well, but the 129 sits at a lower elevation than the 110/119."

That depends on your location. Here in the West coast, 129 is 1 or 2 degrees higher than 110.

To the OP, looks like your mast is not plumb and that's why your elevation is way off. Having said that, yes for a 1000.2 the tables are off maybe 1 or 2 degrees.

As I hinted in my first post, I was very careful to make sure my mast was perfectly plumb. What I forget to say was that the skew I got after peaking was exactly what the tables said, 87 degress, and the azimuth was almost exactly what the tables said (161 tables, 160 peaked). So the only value that was off was the elevation. Which was the situation that I've never seen before, where one value was way off.

I would be surprised if the weight of the dish would sag the mast several degrees, it is rock solid. However, I will check and see.

BTW, I was already aware of the 22.5 offset between the perceived and actual sat location; with the perceived angle always being 90 degrees from the plane of the dish. That does bring up a question though. Is the elevation angle referenced from the perceived or actual sat angle? If it is from the actual, then the degree markings on the dish should had a 22.5 degree offset from the plane of the dish.
F
I would be surprised if the weight of the dish would sag the mast several degrees, it is rock solid. However, I will check and see.

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Actually, there is enough 'slop' in the dish and mount construction/design that the dish can sag a bit. (and it's much worse with a pivoting eave mount).
You haven't mentioned whether or not you are using a meter at the dish, much easier using a meter. Minor adjustments are easier to make. In some instances, if you know you are well tightened all around, you can actually force the dish in the direction you need for best signal. It works for me - no call backs!!!

fred
RTCDude
Actually, there is enough 'slop' in the dish and mount construction/design that the dish can sag a bit. (and it's much worse with a pivoting eave mount).
You haven't mentioned whether or not you are using a meter at the dish, much easier using a meter. Minor adjustments are easier to make. In some instances, if you know you are well tightened all around, you can actually force the dish in the direction you need for best signal. It works for me - no call backs!!!

fred

As I indicated above, my installation point is as solid as any new construction can be.

And no, I've never used a meter for peaking. My "equipment" consists of a card table, a 50' coil of RG6, a 100 foot extension cord, an old 13" B&W portable TV, and the actual sat receiver. Mount the dish in the correct place, drop the RG6 down to the card table with the receiver and portable TV, turn up the sound and align the dish. After finshed peaking, install the real RG6 run into the house (also, grounds and finishing details).

Not really appropriate for a professional installer, but for the few dishes I have installed per year as a favor, it's a low equipment method. When I'm done, it looks like a pro install (I just like doing a good job). However, I am a wimp that I only do easy installs. No "three story, four dish, install the receiver in the basement" setups. I leave the hard ones for the pros.
F
Ditch the extension cord and B&W tv.

use a cell phone or two - lol

fred
WiCkeDuDe
Your mounting is just fine. What other have tried to say and I will also say is that your mount is not the problem but the pole that dish uses can itself sag. When you put the 1000.2 on there it is heavy enough that the pole will move just a bit. On mine I purposely angled the pole just a tad so when the dish was it was perfectly plumb.

To be hitting the wrong birds on each lnb you have to be way off however. Double check your pole and then readjust your specs. Elevation can be changed to get the strongest signal. Your skew is the most important to hit all 3 birds.
Jim5506
Move the dish 8-9 degrees right and up 1-2 degrees. Your mast is plumb enough get the azimuth right.
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This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Leftover carnitas with a giant KFC potato wedge, shredded mozzarella and hot sauce... Water
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Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.
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Fanta orange soda.
Sitting in fridge cooling off, bought 1 along with 2 Mexican Cokes at La Tienda... (I keep a few cokes stashed as well as in fridge and camper fridge)
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Garlic cheese bread
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
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I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
MikeD-C05
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
osu1991
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
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I just thought her behavior, including the bare feet thing, was disrespectful to her position.
dfergie
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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S3 Ep22 Nemesis & S4 Ep1 Small Victories...
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S3 Ep22 Nemesis & S4 Ep1 Small Victories...
Two of my favorite Replicator episodes. :)
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The Tokra pt 1, I know pt 2 will be next...
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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dishdude
They didn't sell many, they were pricey and not out long. Quickly got replaced by the Hopper.
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They were high-end specialty, somewhat buggy and the 612/622/722 just overwhelmed it in popularity.
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I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
T
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
The two instances of "The" should have been highlighted.

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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
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