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to Dish... Comcast Cable is many more $$$ for same service... don't know about ZOOM...
My beef with DTV was that they didn't notify local customers of a dish and receiver upgrade requirement for local channels and all of us in Richmond, VA are missing the Olympics.... unforgivable...
Can I get your opinion on Dish signal clarity, DVR choices (our TIVO with Direct TV is VERY slow with channel surfing), and overall thoughts on customer support...
Thanks for your opinion...
BTW... Dish tells me they can install in 4 days, Direct TV told me they couldn't upgrade me for a MONTH... they have gotten to big for their britches...
My beef with DTV was that they didn't notify local customers of a dish and receiver upgrade requirement for local channels and all of us in Richmond, VA are missing the Olympics.... unforgivable...
Can I get your opinion on Dish signal clarity, DVR choices (our TIVO with Direct TV is VERY slow with channel surfing), and overall thoughts on customer support...
Thanks for your opinion...
BTW... Dish tells me they can install in 4 days, Direct TV told me they couldn't upgrade me for a MONTH... they have gotten to big for their britches...
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Welcome aboard YardApe!
By Dish, you mean E* - we do that to avoid confusion with the generic term "dish".
And by ZOOM I assume you mean VOOM - or V*.
And DirecTV is D* - DTV mean Digital TV.
Regarding "signal clarity", that could be 2 questions: signal strength/reliability and Picture Quality.
As for the first, D* and E* are even - for the main birds. E*'s 105 & 121 are weaker - 121 can usually be brought in reasonably well, but until the new 105 bird is launched, it's not good. Do you care? Depends on where you live - where your locals come from. Check out this site: http://www.dishchannelchart.com/ for that info.
Opinions on D* vs. E* PQ vary - they use different methods of compression, so the degradation that both of them have appears differently - I'm happy with E*, others aren't.
Both D* and E* customer service pretty much sucks - but you can generally get any question reliably answered here in pretty short order. We're good.
Think about it - there's 10,000 members here. Now of course, most are not posting answers, but where else can you go and have say 50 people look at your question.
As for installation - ya gotta watch them like a hawk to make sure they do a decent job. Most especially, lots of hack installers like to skip grounding the gear - that's VERY bad. If you need a SuperDish (to get 105 or 121), those are hard to mount and aim - most guys out there can NOT do a decent job of it (or just won't take the time). Do some reading in the forums here regarding grounding. We have arguments about the details, but ALL of us agree it MUST be done.
By Dish, you mean E* - we do that to avoid confusion with the generic term "dish".
And by ZOOM I assume you mean VOOM - or V*.
And DirecTV is D* - DTV mean Digital TV.
Regarding "signal clarity", that could be 2 questions: signal strength/reliability and Picture Quality.
As for the first, D* and E* are even - for the main birds. E*'s 105 & 121 are weaker - 121 can usually be brought in reasonably well, but until the new 105 bird is launched, it's not good. Do you care? Depends on where you live - where your locals come from. Check out this site: http://www.dishchannelchart.com/ for that info.
Opinions on D* vs. E* PQ vary - they use different methods of compression, so the degradation that both of them have appears differently - I'm happy with E*, others aren't.
Both D* and E* customer service pretty much sucks - but you can generally get any question reliably answered here in pretty short order. We're good.
Think about it - there's 10,000 members here. Now of course, most are not posting answers, but where else can you go and have say 50 people look at your question. As for installation - ya gotta watch them like a hawk to make sure they do a decent job. Most especially, lots of hack installers like to skip grounding the gear - that's VERY bad. If you need a SuperDish (to get 105 or 121), those are hard to mount and aim - most guys out there can NOT do a decent job of it (or just won't take the time). Do some reading in the forums here regarding grounding. We have arguments about the details, but ALL of us agree it MUST be done.
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Thanks, SS... I appreciate the nomenclature
lesson... got it now...
Voom, not Zoom (LOL), D*, E*... and so on...
I am particularily sensitive now to DVR/receiver choices because of my current, turtle-like D* TIVO/receiver (slow channel changes, slow screen menu refresh, cumbersome program management (hard and slow to delete programs)...
Also, with D* incompetence with their dish and receiver upgrades (I have a D* vent about losing local channels (no Olympics) and the fact that it will take a MONTH to upgrade... I want to make sure the I have the best possible dish installed...
BTW... I'll keep future questions more precise... this is a blend of moaning and E* learning...
Lastly, thanks for grounding advice... I'll be looking over tech's shoulder...
lesson... got it now...
Voom, not Zoom (LOL), D*, E*... and so on...I am particularily sensitive now to DVR/receiver choices because of my current, turtle-like D* TIVO/receiver (slow channel changes, slow screen menu refresh, cumbersome program management (hard and slow to delete programs)...
Also, with D* incompetence with their dish and receiver upgrades (I have a D* vent about losing local channels (no Olympics) and the fact that it will take a MONTH to upgrade... I want to make sure the I have the best possible dish installed...
BTW... I'll keep future questions more precise... this is a blend of moaning and E* learning...
Lastly, thanks for grounding advice... I'll be looking over tech's shoulder...
YW on the acronyms. Someone was going to pull together a good list, but it never happened. Maybe if someone does it, Scott will post it as a page.
Oh yeah - I forgot to talk about DVRs.
What boba said.
Oh yeah - I forgot to talk about DVRs.
What boba said.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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The 2025–26 College Football Playoff concluded with the Indiana Hoosiers winning the national championship by defeating the Miami Hurricanes 27–21. [1, 2, 3]
Playoff Results Summary
The 12-team playoff bracket featured the following key results across each round: [1]
The 2025–26 College Football Playoff concluded with the Indiana Hoosiers winning the national championship by defeating the Miami Hurricanes 27–21. [1, 2, 3]
Playoff Results Summary
The 12-team playoff bracket featured the following key results across each round: [1]
- First Round: Alabama defeated Oklahoma (34–24), Miami (Fla.) beat Texas A&M (10–3), Ole Miss topped Tulane (41–10), and Oregon defeated James Madison (51–34) at higher-seeded campus sites.
- Quarterfinals: Miami (Fla.) upset Ohio State (24–14), Oregon shut out Texas Tech (23–0), top-ranked Indiana rolled past Alabama (38–3), and Ole Miss edged Georgia (39–34) across the New Year's Six bowls.
- Semifinals: Miami (Fla.) advanced past Ole Miss (31–27) in the Peach Bowl, while Indiana dominant-defeated Oregon (56–22) in the Fiesta Bowl.
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Walter Koenig, Chekov on Original ‘Star Trek,’ Dies at 90
Walter Koenig, who memorably played Chekov in the original "Star Trek" series and seven "Star Trek" feature films, died Sunday in Los Angeles.
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I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!
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This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.
As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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. can we say over priced garbage!!!I'm thinking of switching to DirecTV and wanted to know what equipment I should be asking for.
I'm wanting wired satellite due to that fact that I live in the sticks and there is no reliable, decent speed internet for streaming available.
What would be the correct equipment for three 4K tvs in the house?
I'm wanting wired satellite due to that fact that I live in the sticks and there is no reliable, decent speed internet for streaming available.
What would be the correct equipment for three 4K tvs in the house?
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why not just do a rebranding of the two
As they pivot away from using dishes and more toward streaming, the DirecTV brand would make much more sense.why not just do a rebranding of the two
been there 
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agree to a certain point!!! is charlies pockets gonna get tight and will he cancel channels because he don't want to pay for them??? a hopper 3 on dtv channel lineup would be amazing and every mans dream come true lol
Squirrels have eaten my antenna wire on my home unit that is a car radio running of the 12 volt side of my solar system. I need a new antenna and would like to add something to one of my existing masts. The reason I am looking at this that I am also covered in trees which has not been a problem, but something mast mounted would future proof me. Thanks in advance.
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We have the pro-500 and it's a beast pulling in the signal!!! always full bars no matter how much it rains. it's worth every penny
I am a animal lover, but this year I gave up gardening. Even moved it to potted plants on the second story deck last year. Can't tell you how much use my Ruger 10-22 got, but it was a losing battle for me. Never got any food. So now they eat coax instead! 20 acres of dense woods behind me and my stuff tastes better, either veggies or wires!
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i might think about running cables through some conduit to prevent the Squirrels from chewing em all to hell
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so...
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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