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Scott Greczkowski
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Want to work for Dish?

http://www.careerswithdish.com/
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It depends where you live. 11 an hr is high in my region where the avg income it in the mid-high 20Ks. There is a low cost of living here and the real estate prices are dirt cheap. At the same time, people dont get paid much. I'd make triple in NYC what I get paid here in Buffalo as a Business Analyst for a bank.

If these jobs were in Buffalo they would be good, well-paying jobs.
Van
Van
No Denvers not cheap, I've been looking over that area for the better part of a year and you have to go northl, east, and south to find aforedable living wich is why I had settled on Loveland as a place to move to when I can reach that point wich should be coming soon. I think I'll give this a try and see what comes of it, wonder if I'm still on the black list or if that stays with the installations departments.
Zero327
Charlie pushes it as every dollar saved (penny-pinched) by avoiding buying current equipment, facilities, materials, supplies, etc is one more dollar that can be spent in something that impacts the customer. Advertising, marketing, rebates, etc. For someone worth $27B, it must be nice to make incredibly hypocritical statements like that, on his charter jets flying inbetween sales incentive trips to Fiji, Baha and the general Caribbean...

DISH has NEVER been competitive with anything employee related except the number of people employed. The wages are substandard, he hasn't provided his people with a cost of living increase in one of the top five fastest inflating cities in the country for over six years and yet he continues to make the top 100 of Forbes richest every single year...

Charlie doesn't care about his people, and so his people rarely care about the customers. Making $11.00/hr, where you can make $11.50 as a starting Arby's Shift Manager... why would you expect anything different? I hear all sorts of whining and moaning every year about DISH's customer service, but I NEVER hear a SINGLE person pushing on Charlie about taking care of his people better. Firing people isn't a solution; when the new people come on they find that they could be making more money for D* or someone else...

Charlie doesn't care about his customers, Charlie doesn't care about his employees; but if you threaten his mergers or channel lineup he'll be on a plane to Washington within four hours...

Damned if I know why I'm telling any of you this. It'll just be more whining about Fox Business (no...it's not coming) /SciFi HD and waiting on the phone for 20 minutes to get help again by tomorrow... I remember why I hate most customers...they have so much in common with Charlie.


Signed,

Never been a Fry Cook I
Islandguy43
I'd make triple in NYC what I get paid here in Buffalo as a Business Analyst for a bank.

Well I guess the bank can't pay much better then either.:confused:

If these jobs were in Buffalo they would be good, well-paying jobs.

Well I live in the area and wouldn't call that a good wage. Must be that is what all those "Intertech" salespeople make at the Blvd Mall. No wonder they spend half their time checking out all the women walking up and down the mall, or running back and forth to the Auntie Anne's Pretzel Stand, because they can't afford to go into TGIF's and have a beer:eek:
dishcomm
Well I live in the area and wouldn't call that a good wage. Must be that is what all those "Intertech" salespeople make at the Blvd Mall. No wonder they spend half their time checking out all the women walking up and down the mall, or running back and forth to the Auntie Anne's Pretzel Stand, because they can't afford to go into TGIF's and have a beer:eek:
as the pressure of rising program costs hits the satcos, the pressure to control these costs increases. I can speak for Dish and I will tell you that their payments to dealers and contractors has been lowered in the pat 4 years. Essentially Dish has been holding down subscription rates on the backs of the very people that instal and service THEIR equipemnt and customers.
This will come to a head. It is becoming difficult to make a living doing this work . The cost of materials and of course fuel keeps risiing while pay rates are stagnant.
IMO Dish will find itself in the untenable position of having to either raise programming fees to subs or losing people to do the work.
Whenb I started my current run at this employer gas was $1.70 per gallon..Now it is $3.20. A 500 ft spool of 10ga copper GND wire was $40, now it's $90. I was patying $35 to $40 for a 1000' spool of copper clad steel UL listed coax..Now it's $55 -$60. Have I gotten a pay raise? Nope. None of us have. We have asked dish to allow us a fuel relief surcharge..Nothing doing. They just don't care. So I am looking hard at getting out. Sucks to be them. I am a damn good tech. I have 10 years in this business....
I cannot continue in a business that has no potential to earn more money.
Spatch
The larger a company gets the less the care about their employees. It is really ashame.
I am a store manager and my company has become so large that it now has a yearly "employee engagement survey". What do they find? They find that the workers don't feel appreciated, they wouldn't recommend a friend, it wouldn't take much for them to leave and they don't think they get paid enough. The solution do a paid out for $150 to decorate the break room. Then cut the average stores payroll by 10% the following year, outsource human resources and the help desk to a different country and make the average pay raise 2%. What a way to show you care. Oh, and I work for a Pharmacy retailer so these are people who are dispensing your medication. All of the pharmacy techs at my store would be making more money working for Dish.
After saying all of that it should be no surprise that my resume is out and I have had a first, second and third interview this week. I can't wait to get out. I wonder if dish would pay to relocate me (joke).
Van
Van
Charlie pushes it as every dollar saved (penny-pinched) by avoiding buying current equipment, facilities, materials, supplies, etc is one more dollar that can be spent in something that impacts the customer. Advertising, marketing, rebates, etc. For someone worth $27B, it must be nice to make incredibly hypocritical statements like that, on his charter jets flying inbetween sales incentive trips to Fiji, Baha and the general Caribbean...

DISH has NEVER been competitive with anything employee related except the number of people employed. The wages are substandard, he hasn't provided his people with a cost of living increase in one of the top five fastest inflating cities in the country for over six years and yet he continues to make the top 100 of Forbes richest every single year...

Charlie doesn't care about his people, and so his people rarely care about the customers. Making $11.00/hr, where you can make $11.50 as a starting Arby's Shift Manager... why would you expect anything different? I hear all sorts of whining and moaning every year about DISH's customer service, but I NEVER hear a SINGLE person pushing on Charlie about taking care of his people better. Firing people isn't a solution; when the new people come on they find that they could be making more money for D* or someone else...

Charlie doesn't care about his customers, Charlie doesn't care about his employees; but if you threaten his mergers or channel lineup he'll be on a plane to Washington within four hours...

Damned if I know why I'm telling any of you this. It'll just be more whining about Fox Business (no...it's not coming) /SciFi HD and waiting on the phone for 20 minutes to get help again by tomorrow... I remember why I hate most customers...they have so much in common with Charlie.


Signed,

Never been a Fry Cook I
SPoken like a truely disgruntled employee,

The larger a company gets the less the care about their employees. It is really ashame.
I am a store manager and my company has become so large that it now has a yearly "employee engagement survey". What do they find? They find that the workers don't feel appreciated, they wouldn't recommend a friend, it wouldn't take much for them to leave and they don't think they get paid enough. The solution do a paid out for $150 to decorate the break room. Then cut the average stores payroll by 10% the following year, outsource human resources and the help desk to a different country and make the average pay raise 2%. What a way to show you care. Oh, and I work for a Pharmacy retailer so these are people who are dispensing your medication. All of the pharmacy techs at my store would be making more money working for Dish.
After saying all of that it should be no surprise that my resume is out and I have had a first, second and third interview this week. I can't wait to get out. I wonder if dish would pay to relocate me (joke).
I said it 3 years ago that dish wants to do away with its sub cons and take it inhouse, its a money saver for them to do that even with the cost of facilities and fleet ect ect.



I wonder if dish would pay to relocate me (joke).
Depends on the position you take with the company, middle to upper management yes they will spend some money to relocate you.
Islandguy43
as the pressure of rising program costs hits the satcos, the pressure to control these costs increases. I can speak for Dish and I will tell you that their payments to dealers and contractors has been lowered in the pat 4 years. Essentially Dish has been holding down subscription rates on the backs of the very people that instal and service THEIR equipemnt and customers.
This will come to a head. It is becoming difficult to make a living doing this work . The cost of materials and of course fuel keeps risiing while pay rates are stagnant.
IMO Dish will find itself in the untenable position of having to either raise programming fees to subs or losing people to do the work.
Whenb I started my current run at this employer gas was $1.70 per gallon..Now it is $3.20. A 500 ft spool of 10ga copper GND wire was $40, now it's $90. I was patying $35 to $40 for a 1000' spool of copper clad steel UL listed coax..Now it's $55 -$60. Have I gotten a pay raise? Nope. None of us have. We have asked dish to allow us a fuel relief surcharge..Nothing doing. They just don't care. So I am looking hard at getting out. Sucks to be them. I am a damn good tech. I have 10 years in this business....
I cannot continue in a business that has no potential to earn more money.

Have you considered doing installs for Direct or a cable co?
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No Denvers not cheap, I've been looking over that area for the better part of a year and you have to go northl, east, and south to find aforedable living wich is why I had settled on Loveland as a place to move to when I can reach that point wich should be coming soon. I think I'll give this a try and see what comes of it, wonder if I'm still on the black list or if that stays with the installations departments.
Grew up in that area and lived there for couple of years not so long ago... I agree that Loveland is one of the more affordable areas. You have to weigh the commute to Denver (if that is where you will work), though.
Zero327
SPoken like a truely disgruntled employee,

Taking advantage of your customers isn't the newest thing, it's pretty much the common business trend at present. Stepping on the spines of the people that work for you, that's strictly a personal vice of his, and I don't much care for it. It shows a lack of integrity (yeah... don't start) and it shows for someone trying so hard to be the industry leader, he thinks he can do it on outdated equipment and half a skeleton crew.

Sooner or later, D* is just going to spend money on their business and put him out of his misery, and he'll be laughing all the way to the bank. And when Chuck gets bored, he'll just fire up his shiny new spinoff and take it out for a ride.

Irregardless, I watched the end of Wall Street... I know how this will finish.
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Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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harshness
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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MikeD-C05
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
MikeD-C05
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
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osu1991
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
MikeD-C05
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
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Jimbo
Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
You say that like it's a Bad thing or something ... :biggrin
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long_time_Dish
Well, look at the way she sat in the Captain's Chair. I didn't say the show should have been called "Captain Chair-Whore" for nothing...
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primestar31
Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
star trek GIF by HULU


Just sayin...
MikeD-C05
You say that like it's a Bad thing or something ... :biggrin
For a whole generation of adults it was in the 1960s and 1970s.

All In The Family Nostalgia GIF by Sony Pictures Television
All In The Family Singing GIF by Sony Pictures Television
harshness
Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.
long_time_Dish
Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.
Was never a huge of the Ferengi-centric episodes in Trek...
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Gondoliers, Shakespeares, Overseers, Playboys and Bums - Norman Greenbaum
Bobby
I Wish I Was Eighteen Again - George Burns
harshness
I Wish - Stevie Wonder
EatMyVolts
Lonesome Road -- The Wonder Who?
long_time_Dish
Lonesome Loser - Little River Band
dishstaller
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Love this guy's channel. Looks like Walmart has thrown in the towel when it comes to conventional car batteries.

I bought a new AGM battery from Walmart about a year ago, it is already needing replacing. I thought about just buying a regular battery but from what I've read, that might not be a smart move. Might check my Forscan program and see if I can change the battery type from AGM.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awe7kY5nvdU
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harshness
When you need a battery, you need a battery.

If you can wait, new technologies are on the not-too-distant horizon.

You're probably doing something wrong if you're only getting a year out of an AGM battery. Heat and infrequent charging both significantly reduce lifetime.
Jimbo
The guy in the Video, REALLY needs to TAKE a Breath ...
If he'd Slow down, you could figure out What he's testing and on what. :(
harshness
If he'd Slow down, you could figure out What he's testing and on what.
You can't view his videos passively.

I appreciate this approach to videos that take an hour to deliver a fraction of the same data.

Now, if YouTube were required to flag the AI "reviews", that would really be something.
dishstaller
You're probably doing something wrong if you're only getting a year out of an AGM battery. Heat and infrequent charging both significantly reduce lifetime.
Huh? How can I be doing something wrong.....I took out the original battery, that was 6 yrs old and put in a new one.....kinda hard to screw that up. I figure it was just a bad battery....it happens.


The biggest takeaway I got from this video was the Walmart batteries only had something like 85% of battery life left even though they were brand NEW. The ones from O'Reilly all tested 100% of life left.
Jimbo
Huh? How can I be doing something wrong.....I took out the original battery, that was 6 yrs old and put in a new one.....kinda hard to screw that up. I figure it was just a bad battery....it happens.


The biggest takeaway I got from this video was the Walmart batteries only had something like 85% of battery life left even though they were brand NEW. The ones from O'Reilly all tested 100% of life left.
And the Walmart ones mostly had very little warranty.

My last AGM (using now) I got from O Rielly's, its the Super Start ... I got the Platnium, they had several to choose from.
TRG
TRG
Huh? How can I be doing something wrong.....I took out the original battery, that was 6 yrs old and put in a new one.....kinda hard to screw that up. I figure it was just a bad battery....it happens.


The biggest takeaway I got from this video was the Walmart batteries only had something like 85% of battery life left even though they were brand NEW. The ones from O'Reilly all tested 100% of life left.
I've been buying my batteries from AutoZone. I avoid Walmart whenever possible.
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I appreciate this approach to videos that take an hour to deliver a fraction of the same data.
That's the way I feel about it.
I hate those videos where they show themselves slowly opening up the box and unwrapping it.
His videos are probably the fastest pace test videos on Youtube.
T
He sounds like he's trying to sell me a pocket hose.

I just had to replace a car battery this week and thought I'd look into LiFePo4. Amazon has plenty of them, but all have top posts and only one 'also' has side connections (Group 75).Then I read that they're really lousy in the cold. So, an AGM, but again, almost nothing with side terminals instead of top. In researching that, I read that most mfrs in recent years have dropped side terminals and gone back to the old top posts, which is surprising to me since those are more corrosion-prone, cause the battery to need more space and are generally more hazardous. Finally I just threw up my hands and bought a regular lead-acid at Sam's Club. They had a Group 75 "Duracell" with side terminals only. It was virtually the only such battery with side posts on their shelves
arlo
Had a Die Hard in my folks cellar for over 6 years. Pulled it out, slapped it on a charger for a day. Put it in my 'Cuda and drove it around for a week of my vacation. Next year, the same. But my dad kept it topped off for me.It was a mid 80's battery in early 1990.

Flooded acid batteries like a float voltage of around 13.5-13.8 voltage.
AGM needs a float of 14.2 volts. So if you slap an AGM in where a flooded was. It never gets a full charge.
"Why do they die so fast?" Question answered. There are folks who sell voltage regulators for alternators that are designed to boost float voltage for AGM batteries.
The other way around? Flooded will gas-off a little at 14.2 volts. But seems to tolerate it pretty good.

Lithium car/bike/atv batteries. After 3 batteries in my Harley. The OEM flooded and two AGM's (before the 14.2 volt float requirement to let them live was learned). I bought a lithium for it. 4 year, no gripe warranty after having it tested by an approved store.
The thing started like Thor himself sent a bolt from the sky. Except......try to start it around freezing? Nope. Needed a heating pad.
And I usually like to park it around events in the evening with the parking light on. Looks cool like that.
We could traipse around for a few hours no worries. Hop on, fire it up, and go putt around.
Lithium? A Dakota Lithium at least. The BMS shuts it right down if it discharges below <something>.
Come back. Parking lights off. Won't start. And you know the rest. But it lasted 6 years. A lot better than 'new every two'. And the fact that powersports batteries are warranted for six, maybe nine months. Ludicrous.

I called Noco. Asked all of the right questions. Great warranty. Save some bucks ordering directly, faster service that the wally world alternative.
They addressed (or claimed over the phone) that the shut down was addressed. Sure. The BMS keeps it form being damaged. But if it is shut down because it does become low. Shut down any load (key on, parking or headlights left on) for 10-15 minutes and you get a second try to start your rig. Not a bad thing if it really works. Right?!

Exide, Interstate? Be very afraid. They ain't what they used to be. In Florida my '70 Cutlass had an Interstate (early 90') that lasted 6 years until it dropped its plates at an intersection and boiled over. In Florida, mind you. The last Interstate.....done in 2. Guys down there would suck out the acid and put water in shortly before the warranty ran out. Make it to the auto parts, get them tested. And get a new one pro rated. No more pro rating.
You can't beat an Odyssey. Napa, AC Deco (the better ones). Yup.
The mom and pop Car Quest only sells Die Hard. For a reason, the old man says. So they convinced that a Die HArd Platinum was the hot ticket for me. l will see. Stand by!

You can't cut Mr. Project Farm down. He does great tests of all sorts of things. Not sponsored and pressured to slap a little sugar on his comparisons and reviews. Compared to the Brits and Aussies with their constant overzealous and same sounding (Dave from EEVblog) rant. I like P-Farm a lot. Of course I like AvE (Boltr) too.
Reminds me to beware when wearing shorts around the garage vice.


Opinions may vary.
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I collect and play vinyl records regularly. A friend of mine told me about a record stash located inside an antique mall. So naturally I had to go go check it out.

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Van
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Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.
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dfergie
Speaking of waffles, I'm going to put my mini waffle iron on stove so I'll remember to make waffles in the morning... Had some last week, been awhile.
dfergie
Dos cackleberrys over easy on top of 2 corned beef hash patties fried in skillet... Chocolate milk.
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Cold morning today, only 32 degrees. Fired up the oven and made cinnamon rolls (from a tube) and a pot of coffee.
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2 egg burrito with bacon and a side of hashbrowns. Coffee.

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Breakfast Quesadillas. Grilled flour tortilla filled with scrambled eggs, hash browns, chopped green chile, cheddar & Jack cheese and bacon. Coffee.

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The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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meStevo

Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
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If it weren't for the sky-high electricity prices...

Of course, the real scare with Winter coming is the insane cost of heating oil.
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GM said its next-generation vehicle architecture will provide 40 times more computing power and 30 percent less wiring than before and will expand from the 2028 Cadillac Escalade IQ to its high-volume SUVs, trucks, crossovers, and fourth-generation EVs, which will be powered by lithium manganese-rich (LMR) prismatic batteries

Despite the politicization and perceived consumer pivot away from EVs in America, GM needs to remain globally competitive, so it's doubling down on its fourth generation EVs, with energy-dense, cheaper-to-manufacture LMR batteries, more efficient motors, and state-of-the-art centralized computing architecture. With a stated goal of cutting the traditional four- to five-year concept-to-production time in half, GM is clearly challenging the concept of "China speed," which in the Chinese automotive industry can be as quick as 18 months from design to start of production. In the AI space, GM is smartly collapsing all of its marque-specific apps under the familiar OnStar brand, while providing more features—both on the phone and in the car—than it ever has before.
harshness
Let's tell it like it is. GM's EV efforts are coming from SAIC. The brain trust is almost entirely in China, and GM is hanging off of SAIC's shirt tails.

It is a lot like asserting that the Corvette was designed by Chevrolet when most of it came from the Cadillac CTS-V.
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Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
That's how Ford did it- vertical integration. He even set up a rubber plantation in S. America
TheForce
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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TheForce
Heard a story from one of the Apple influencers on YT that the 18PM has a bug where it stops connecting to AT&T service. Doesn't affect Verizon or T-Mobile. Apple is replacing the phones. Anyone else hear of this? Defective Modem?
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harshness
Defective Modem?
It seems the phone gets locked into Sat mode. A software patch is coming to avoid that pitfall, but it comes too late for those who already fell in.

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comfortably_numb
Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU
Foxbat
If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.
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comfortably_numb
No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!
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harshness
medieval chain armor
Aka "mail" or "maille".
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