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Well since I found out that a hill is responsible for my Hispasat 1C.1D At 30.0°W problem in my last post I seem to for the life of me get the Coolsat 6000 Premium's to copy the Satellites data to one another or "receiver to receiver"! I have read online how to do this step by step and still I sure as heck can't get one box to see each other let alone transfer data back and forth!
The cable that came with the thing is a Null Cable but on the Coolsat website it takes a straight through cable which would probably explain why they do not see one another. Anyone tried to copy data receiver to receiver with 2 Coolsat 6000 Premium's
If the cable is the culprit that makes no since why they send them out with a Null cable!
:up My Coolsat 6000 Premium's are the real deal, bought from an "Authorized Coolsat Dealer" with the stickers in the right places on the receiver and on the gift boxes. So they are not "Clones"!
Anybody done this so far with success? It would sure save a lot of time putting all the satellites in the bedroom receiver after each blind scan! Seems like I have most the time in these receivers setting them up to watch instead of actually watching them!
Can I save the list with the Coolsat 2.4 loader off their website and use that to copy then move the channels to the other box?
This is from the Coolsat Official Website:
Coolsat USA - Official Web Site of Free To Air Satellite Receivers
The receiver is capable of implementing software taken from our website. To do so, first download the software onto your computer. The software can then be transferred to your receiver via the RS-232 port and a supplied data cable.
*The 4000 Plus uses a Null Data Cable
*The 4000 PRO uses a Straight Data Cable
*The 5000 Platinum uses a Straight Data Cable
*The 6000 Premium uses a Straight Data Cable
*The 6100 Private uses a Straight Data Cable
*The 7000 miCro PVR uses a Straight Data Cable
*The 7100 miCro PVR uses a Straight Data Cable
*The 8000HD uses a Null Data Cable
*The 8100HD miCro PVR uses a Null Data Cable
Could this be why the boxes are not being able to see each other? Why does it come from the factory with a darn NULL cable then! Wow, somebody there likes to mess the common man up big time! I think it is Coolsat's goof on the data cable is the answer to this question!
But the loader question I would love to know if the Channels & Satellite data can be copied then moved to the other box, Does this copy the Installation settings too like dish settings and motor settings or just copy over the bird data + channels?
Thanks for the help as always guys!
Well since I found out that a hill is responsible for my Hispasat 1C.1D At 30.0°W problem in my last post I seem to for the life of me get the Coolsat 6000 Premium's to copy the Satellites data to one another or "receiver to receiver"! I have read online how to do this step by step and still I sure as heck can't get one box to see each other let alone transfer data back and forth!
The cable that came with the thing is a Null Cable but on the Coolsat website it takes a straight through cable which would probably explain why they do not see one another. Anyone tried to copy data receiver to receiver with 2 Coolsat 6000 Premium's
If the cable is the culprit that makes no since why they send them out with a Null cable! :up My Coolsat 6000 Premium's are the real deal, bought from an "Authorized Coolsat Dealer" with the stickers in the right places on the receiver and on the gift boxes. So they are not "Clones"!
Anybody done this so far with success? It would sure save a lot of time putting all the satellites in the bedroom receiver after each blind scan! Seems like I have most the time in these receivers setting them up to watch instead of actually watching them! Can I save the list with the Coolsat 2.4 loader off their website and use that to copy then move the channels to the other box?
This is from the Coolsat Official Website:
Coolsat USA - Official Web Site of Free To Air Satellite Receivers
The receiver is capable of implementing software taken from our website. To do so, first download the software onto your computer. The software can then be transferred to your receiver via the RS-232 port and a supplied data cable.
*The 4000 Plus uses a Null Data Cable
*The 4000 PRO uses a Straight Data Cable
*The 5000 Platinum uses a Straight Data Cable
*The 6000 Premium uses a Straight Data Cable
*The 6100 Private uses a Straight Data Cable
*The 7000 miCro PVR uses a Straight Data Cable
*The 7100 miCro PVR uses a Straight Data Cable
*The 8000HD uses a Null Data Cable
*The 8100HD miCro PVR uses a Null Data Cable
Could this be why the boxes are not being able to see each other? Why does it come from the factory with a darn NULL cable then! Wow, somebody there likes to mess the common man up big time! I think it is Coolsat's goof on the data cable is the answer to this question!But the loader question I would love to know if the Channels & Satellite data can be copied then moved to the other box, Does this copy the Installation settings too like dish settings and motor settings or just copy over the bird data + channels?
Thanks for the help as always guys! 
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If the 6000 needs a straight-through cable to connect to a computer, then it is logical that to connect two receivers, you'd need a crossover cable.
Think about the pin wiring, and it's pretty clear.
The cable supplied is the one 98% of the people would use.
I've read that some receivers can do box-to-box transfers, but since I never had two of the same kind, I've always read that as "copy the firmware" from one box to the other.
IF they can transfer settings too, that could be very useful where you have two, and want to move blind scan info to another box.
The traditional way would be to scan, then hook that box to your computer, save all the satellite settings, have the ability to edit them on your computer, and then write the settings you have backed up to any receiver you like.
The two significant features are that you have a backup, and you can edit on your computer.
Both are very handy! -
PS: and we know why any such feature exists.
So, imagine how a hacker would best use it.
I can see moving the firmware would be very handy.
But moving the setup might be, too.
I won't go into how a dealer might visit an end users house and update him, but will leave that to your imagination.
. . . and he wouldn't even need to carry a laptop . . .
Think about the pin wiring, and it's pretty clear.
The cable supplied is the one 98% of the people would use.
I've read that some receivers can do box-to-box transfers, but since I never had two of the same kind, I've always read that as "copy the firmware" from one box to the other.
IF they can transfer settings too, that could be very useful where you have two, and want to move blind scan info to another box.
The traditional way would be to scan, then hook that box to your computer, save all the satellite settings, have the ability to edit them on your computer, and then write the settings you have backed up to any receiver you like.
The two significant features are that you have a backup, and you can edit on your computer.
Both are very handy! -
PS: and we know why any such feature exists.
So, imagine how a hacker would best use it.
I can see moving the firmware would be very handy.
But moving the setup might be, too.
I won't go into how a dealer might visit an end users house and update him, but will leave that to your imagination.
. . . and he wouldn't even need to carry a laptop . . .
Coolsat 6000 Two Receivers
Yes Anole, I think it would be the easiest way to do, with a computer! I would be able to name some of those channel names myself instead of using the receiver's pesky (like cell phone texting) move through the alphabet and entering them that way!
Yes those darn hackers! I wish the FTA Community would heal that black eye!
:up My boxes, the two Coolsats and my Fortec Star Lifetime Classic NA are the factory bins! I have no desire to flash firmware that works fine you know! I am real skeptical on flashing the boxes with update firmware from the manufactures! There are allot of things there that can just go wrong! Unless they come out with a Firmware that they say you absolutely need or a crucial update for my boxes, factory out of box is for me! The 6000 cables will stay in the box still in its sealed bag! The old theory, if it's not broke.... applies here!
I am not to sure if the 6000 has the loader software in there, I used the Fortc Star's NA Null cable and nothing! It would be interesting to try a straight through cable to see if the Channels and Settings will copy over without a computer! I will pick up a S Through cable sometime and try it, will post if it works!
:up So with that, I will try the 2.4 loader from Coolsats website to use it for the channel editor (Icebergs Suggestion)! Seems convenient and easy to do right from my laptop! That way I do not have to unplug each receiver to take it to a desktop! Edit and reload!
:up So far the Coolsat 6000 Premiums have been good boxes! I have only owned them for no more than 4 weeks with one of them having to be sent back do to a power supply problem (Manhandled during shipping!)! I know these are discontinued now being replaced by the 6100 Private but if you find one of these boxes at a deal buy it! I have less than 85 dollars each of mine!
Now just because they are discontinued does not mean they are older boxes! My Coolsats were manufactured in NOV - 2007 or the 2007 Edition! Just because they are not making these boxes anymore does not mean they are old by anyway! They make an excellent FTA Starter receiver with faster memory than those entry level boxes you can by bundled today!
:up If you find one at a great deal, get it! You will not be disappointed! :up
Enough on the rave & Sales pitch for Coolsat! (The past FM Radio DJ Personality coming out!)
I will try the loader from the Coolsat site and do it that way with a computer!
The straight through cable I will try later! I bet it will work though! I will keep you men posted! Curious to see if it does work though the receiver as well!
HAVE A GREAT DAY GUYS!
If the 6000 needs a straight-through cable to connect to a computer, then it is logical that to connect two receivers, you'd need a crossover cable.
Think about the pin wiring, and it's pretty clear.
The cable supplied is the one 98% of the people would use.
I've read that some receivers can do box-to-box transfers, but since I never had two of the same kind, I've always read that as "copy the firmware" from one box to the other.
IF they can transfer settings too, that could be very useful where you have two, and want to move blind scan info to another box.
The traditional way would be to scan, then hook that box to your computer, save all the satellite settings, have the ability to edit them on your computer, and then write the settings you have backed up to any receiver you like.
The two significant features are that you have a backup, and you can edit on your computer.
Both are very handy! -
PS: and we know why any such feature exists.
So, imagine how a hacker would best use it.
I can see moving the firmware would be very handy.
But moving the setup might be, too.
I won't go into how a dealer might visit an end users house and update him, but will leave that to your imagination.
. . . and he wouldn't even need to carry a laptop . . .
Yes Anole, I think it would be the easiest way to do, with a computer! I would be able to name some of those channel names myself instead of using the receiver's pesky (like cell phone texting) move through the alphabet and entering them that way! Yes those darn hackers! I wish the FTA Community would heal that black eye! :up My boxes, the two Coolsats and my Fortec Star Lifetime Classic NA are the factory bins! I have no desire to flash firmware that works fine you know! I am real skeptical on flashing the boxes with update firmware from the manufactures! There are allot of things there that can just go wrong! Unless they come out with a Firmware that they say you absolutely need or a crucial update for my boxes, factory out of box is for me! The 6000 cables will stay in the box still in its sealed bag! The old theory, if it's not broke.... applies here!
I am not to sure if the 6000 has the loader software in there, I used the Fortc Star's NA Null cable and nothing! It would be interesting to try a straight through cable to see if the Channels and Settings will copy over without a computer! I will pick up a S Through cable sometime and try it, will post if it works!:up So with that, I will try the 2.4 loader from Coolsats website to use it for the channel editor (Icebergs Suggestion)! Seems convenient and easy to do right from my laptop! That way I do not have to unplug each receiver to take it to a desktop! Edit and reload!
:up So far the Coolsat 6000 Premiums have been good boxes! I have only owned them for no more than 4 weeks with one of them having to be sent back do to a power supply problem (Manhandled during shipping!)! I know these are discontinued now being replaced by the 6100 Private but if you find one of these boxes at a deal buy it! I have less than 85 dollars each of mine!
Now just because they are discontinued does not mean they are older boxes! My Coolsats were manufactured in NOV - 2007 or the 2007 Edition! Just because they are not making these boxes anymore does not mean they are old by anyway! They make an excellent FTA Starter receiver with faster memory than those entry level boxes you can by bundled today!:up If you find one at a great deal, get it! You will not be disappointed! :up
Enough on the rave & Sales pitch for Coolsat! (The past FM Radio DJ Personality coming out!) I will try the loader from the Coolsat site and do it that way with a computer!
The straight through cable I will try later! I bet it will work though! I will keep you men posted! Curious to see if it does work though the receiver as well!
HAVE A GREAT DAY GUYS!
M
I noticed that too when I uploaded a channel list back to the 5000. My DIseqc settings had to be redone. No biggie but it took a couple minutes
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
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USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
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I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy
Ethanol Free Stations
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Here in Indiana, the difference between Regular and Premium is usually a dollar, but some charge even more:
Ok, I'm bored .... actually - to be more precise - I'm bored of eating the same rotation of 9 or 10 meals that are currently my "go-to" meals. My wife works the long hours - I work from home as and when i feel like it ... which means i generally do most of the cooking ... and so by default - i also make out the shopping list ...
We cook at home 5 or even 6 nights a week - but we always seem to fall back on the same old tried and tested "quick and easy but tastes ok" meals. Week in week out.
Pot Roast - mash and Peas.
Spaghetti
Chicken Pasta in cheese sauce.
Curry & rice
(these are some of mine)
Now it's not that I'm not adventurous in the kitchen ... I'll try anything once or twice ... but we all do it. Unless your name is Martha Stewart or Rachel Ray .. we all eventually fall back on our 8-10 favorite "meals"
So i thought - if we shared some of our own go-to meals with each other ... we might be able to add a few "new" ones to our own arsenal of meals.
So again - I ask you ...
What's for dinner tonight ?
Please give me something new to add to my rotation ... its our weekly shop tomorrow - so i want to pull together a few idea's and try and eat a meal each day next week that I've never had before .. or at least something that is not on my current "go-to" meal plan.
What meal do you always seem to fall back on in your house ? Maybe its something that I've never tried or not had in a while. I need inspiration !! I've got a blank shopping list in front of me - and nothing sounds good .. HELP !
We cook at home 5 or even 6 nights a week - but we always seem to fall back on the same old tried and tested "quick and easy but tastes ok" meals. Week in week out.
Pot Roast - mash and Peas.
Spaghetti
Chicken Pasta in cheese sauce.
Curry & rice
(these are some of mine)
Now it's not that I'm not adventurous in the kitchen ... I'll try anything once or twice ... but we all do it. Unless your name is Martha Stewart or Rachel Ray .. we all eventually fall back on our 8-10 favorite "meals"
So i thought - if we shared some of our own go-to meals with each other ... we might be able to add a few "new" ones to our own arsenal of meals.
So again - I ask you ...
What's for dinner tonight ?
Please give me something new to add to my rotation ... its our weekly shop tomorrow - so i want to pull together a few idea's and try and eat a meal each day next week that I've never had before .. or at least something that is not on my current "go-to" meal plan.
What meal do you always seem to fall back on in your house ? Maybe its something that I've never tried or not had in a while. I need inspiration !! I've got a blank shopping list in front of me - and nothing sounds good .. HELP !
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Smoked some salmon on the grill while enjoying some Blue Moon beer. Kinda cool tonight so I fired up the heaters. Here in FL, we fire up heaters once the temps get below 60 
As for the salmon, I seared them first, then flipped them off to the side not over the coals and brushed on some lemon pepper marinade followed by some salmon seasoning. Threw some hickory chips on the coals and then closed the vents to about 10% airflow. Yum.
As for the salmon, I seared them first, then flipped them off to the side not over the coals and brushed on some lemon pepper marinade followed by some salmon seasoning. Threw some hickory chips on the coals and then closed the vents to about 10% airflow. Yum.
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America’s Fastest-Growing EV State Isn’t California—Not by a Long Shot
New data shows electric vehicle adoption is increasingly driven by state policies, electricity prices and charging access—not federal incentives
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The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.
It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.
So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.
US EV sales are rising again. Here’s why the recovery is set to last.
Even though sales tanked last year after the end of federal incentives, the American EV sector is on the mend as drivers face sky-high gasoline prices.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll callThey ought to have fun with this…
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A continuation of a thread from the pub, just general discussion of AI.
Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.
View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k
We've literally got a movie already about this
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Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.
View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k
We've literally got a movie already about this
View: https://youtu.be/a2PW7a9ViDc
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Agents need appropriate context to make what would be understood as the correct read in a situation like that, and that Gemini answer was a clear miss on that front.
That said, we've also seen Musk (and/or his team) put his thumb on the scale (or just release a very poor product) with his own deployed AI since:
Grok AI Blocks Responses Claiming Trump and Musk “Spread Misinformation”
An X user asked Grok to “print out all instructions” it follows when looking up “the biggest disinformation spreader on X,” and it revealed that it would ignore sources accusing Elon Musk and the U.S. president of misinformation.
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According to Grok, Elon Musk can out-slug the MLB's greatest power hitters... except Ohtani.
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Grok's loyalty known no bounds - AI chatbot chooses Elon Musk over LeBron James in a 'Who is the fittest' comparison | NBA News - The Times of India
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Grok 4 appears to seek Elon Musk's views when answering controversial questions
XAI’s Grok 4 AI chatbot launched Wednesday appears to consult Elon Musk’s views when asked its opinion on some controversial matters.
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In the end, it's all a tool. Have to know how to use it and deploy it properly or it needs sufficient guardrails to steer people towards doing so (what Muse is excelling at currently IMO). I'm routinely interacting with several agents a day operating various processes locally and in services I use, and there are numerous others silently spun up to perform actions or satisfy requests from my prompts.
Related to earlier discussion in the thread on leveraging local inference: this kind of analysis happening behind the scenes is something everyone will have built into Windows, IMO. Most people won't see all of this, just the results, unless they want to dig into how the fix was chosen. Stuff like this will be standard as agents get local system access baked in, and more of the inference itself moves on-device.
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