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Nobody Said It Was Going To Be Easy:
It wasn't as easy as we thought it would be to pick up the 7.6 Ft. Unimesh Dish 2 Blocks away from my house. When we got there the snow had almost all melted and the Dish was up about 2 feet higher than when I saw it in Feb.

After loosening the Pole Cap Bolts, the two of us just couldn't reach high enough to pull up the Dish off the pole, but it was also too heavy with the Actuator and Ring on it so we decided to disassemble it rather than leave it for another day. Took off the Actuator, then the Poles and FeedHorn, removed the 4 screws holding the Dish to the Ring, and dropped the 7.6 Footer down slowly. After that it was easy, took 4 trips back and forth to my house with a wagon.

The Dish is now lying flat in my backyard see pic # 1. The Pole is a type of Quad Pole which is different than the Tripod that my 12 Footer is on. The LNB's are Gardiner Plus LNB's Performance on what looks like a Corotor II FeedHorn, see pics 3 and 4. Does anyone know if those Gardiner LNB's as good as my Norsats?

The Actuator is a Fasco / Von Weise, see pics 5 and 6. Wonder if I can use it on my 12 Footer?? The 7.5 Ft Dish Ring has 4 Nuts welded to it to secure it to the Dish Pole which is much more stable than the only 1 welded nut on my shaky 12 Footer, see pics 7 and 8. The wind is STILL greatly affecting the 12 Footers' performance and It seems that unless I get more nuts welded on its Pole Cap it will continue to have problems.

Not sure just what I'll do with this new / old 7.6 Footer Unimesh Dish but I guess if I have more trouble with my 12 Footer I may consider replacing it with the 7.6 Footer. Any comments / advise would be greatly appreciated.
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G
yes drill thru the mount and the pole on one side.
This is after its aimed.
I would still install the extra nuts and set screws
tho hard to do after the mount is up(maybe a large C clamp and put nuts at 180*
at the same time).
The point Im trying to make about large dishes and high winds are that they are like a big sail and will stress the set screws on the pole to the point of indenting the pole.
Eventually these indentions will be in the wrong spot and dish cant be aimed.
For this reason I leave the set screws snug with the dish plumbed but under a high wind it
can be rotated.
I first had mine marked with majic marker but after a few times of resetting came up with the pilot hole and shear pin. I want my dish to give with the wind if it has to.
My old dish went thru countless hurricanes and even a few tornadoes and oddly enough
never got bent,perhaps in part to me parking it all the way down when inclement weather approached. But as they say here in central Fla..... If you dont like the weather here...wait 10 minutes,it will change.
J
yes drill thru the mount and the pole on one side.
This is after its aimed.
I would still install the extra nuts and set screws
tho hard to do after the mount is up(maybe a large C clamp and put nuts at 180*
at the same time).
The point Im trying to make about large dishes and high winds are that they are like a big sail and will stress the set screws on the pole to the point of indenting the pole.
Eventually these indentions will be in the wrong spot and dish cant be aimed.
For this reason I leave the set screws snug with the dish plumbed but under a high wind it
can be rotated.
I first had mine marked with majic marker but after a few times of resetting came up with the pilot hole and shear pin. I want my dish to give with the wind if it has to.
My old dish went thru countless hurricanes and even a few tornadoes and oddly enough
never got bent,perhaps in part to me parking it all the way down when inclement weather approached. But as they say here in central Fla..... If you dont like the weather here...wait 10 minutes,it will change.

Thanks a lot Gpat. I think your suggestion of putting in a shear pin is a great idea. The 12 Footer is on a Tripod at ground level about 7 feet high now so I am not able able to park it any lower. Right now the with its 1 welded big Bolt and 1 small Bolt that does NOT have a welded Nut, 12 Ft. Dish does always slightly move after a windy day and I have to slightly move it with the Battery Charger (since the Actuator also doesn't work), to get it back to best Signal Levels on G 25 / 97.0W. Unfortunately to add the more - at least 5 required Welded Nuts & 5 Bolts I believe I would need to somehow get the Dish OFF THE POLE to drill the holes in the Pole Cap, which would mean dismantling it again with 3 or 4 helpers, & that's the problem!! Mobile welding companies charge anywhere from $150.00 to $200.00 to weld nuts on steel shafts, but as I see it the Dish would still have to removed off the Pole to do this - unless I'm missing something?? Thanks.
G
This may not make any sense to you but you could drill the holes in it with the dish intact.
Just rotate it 45* from your proper setting and drill the 1/2inch holes
If you nick the pole when going thru the mount no problem as the setscrew will be at
least 2 inches away when the dish is repositioned.
They make a drill bit that cuts the outer edge like a hole saw would,its called a bullet bit.
Then you can C clamp 2 nuts at 180* and tack them in place.
A full weld can be done after the C clamp is removed.
Have you considered doing the welding yourself?
Im sure rental places will rent a small 110V mig welder for a few hours.
I welded nuts on my mount with a mig and it works just fine.
Anole
welding @ home

Jsattv said:
Mobile welding companies charge anywhere from $150.00 to $200.00 to weld nuts on steel shafts,
I was going to say, for that price, you could buy a flux-core welder!
See Harbor Freight.
No, I'm not seriously suggesting purchase.

Have you considered doing the welding yourself?
Im sure rental places will rent a small 110V mig welder for a few hours.
I welded nuts on my mount with a mig and it works just fine.
Rental? Wow, that's a great idea!
But, find a buddy with welding experience.
I have two friends who bought MIG welders last year, and neither can weld worth a crap!
It takes experience and practice. You won't do well without both.

If you can find a local class to take, maybe at a ROP school, get some lessons - it's not expensive.
Then, give your instructor a few bucks to come over and "show you how". ;)
(...or maybe one of the better students)

Maybe one of you welding experts can comment on this idea...
What about a MAP gas torch?
You can get 'em at the hardware store for $30 ? , and they're a lot hotter than the usual propane.
Does a fine job on plumbing, but not sure if it'd get the job done on this project?
linuxman
Maybe one of you welding experts can comment on this idea...
What about a MAP gas torch?
You can get 'em at the hardware store for $30 ? , and they're a lot hotter than the usual propane.
Does a fine job on plumbing, but not sure if it'd get the job done on this project?
You could braze the nut on with MAPP gas, but it would probably never hold with the tightening force you need to hold the dish in place. When you tightened it down good, the nut would pull away from the cap. :(

I don't think you could get it hot enough to actually weld steel to steel without an Acetylene Torch. Then you would need a good steel filler rod, and flux to keep out the harmful atmosphere while it cooled.
J
This may not make any sense to you but you could drill the holes in it with the dish intact.
Just rotate it 45* from your proper setting and drill the 1/2inch holes
If you nick the pole when going thru the mount no problem as the setscrew will be at
least 2 inches away when the dish is repositioned.
They make a drill bit that cuts the outer edge like a hole saw would,its called a bullet bit.
Then you can C clamp 2 nuts at 180* and tack them in place.
A full weld can be done after the C clamp is removed.
Have you considered doing the welding yourself?
Im sure rental places will rent a small 110V mig welder for a few hours.
I welded nuts on my mount with a mig and it works just fine.

Thanks gpat for the advice, really great ideas / suggestions. Doing the job without having to remove that heavy Dish and Ring off the Pole Cap sounds like a great idea!! When you say C clamp do you mean Drilling the Holes with the Pole rotated over 90 degrees, then temporarily attaching the Nuts with a Clamp and tack welding the Nuts, then removing the Clamp and permantly welding on the Nuts?

Anole and Linuxman thanks for the suggestions, the reason the Welding Shop gave me that their price was so high was that dispatching a guy with a portable welder was high re the price of gas the Truck etc. etc. He did say if I brought in the piece (Dish Ring) to their shop the cost would be anywhere from 25 to 50 dollars.
"MysteryMan"
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I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.
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EarDemon
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.
WhiteBeard
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything. ☹️
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EarDemon
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything. ☹️
For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.

I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.
HipKat
For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.

I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.
I'm sorry, but the Dock is optional. I run Arch Linux, and tbh, as someone without specific, niche needs like your radios, the GUI is really no different, and I worry less about my OS being infiltrated. The OS is less bloated; there is no OEM Software that I have to dig through to disable or remove; coding is not a massive pile of problems that require constant patching, and if there is a problem, I can easily fix it myself (ChatGPT is great for Linux or any programming issues), and setting it up to look the way I want it to does not take days/weeks. It takes barely an hour. Not to mention, a cold boot takes barely 30 seconds from Power on the being fully booted.

Ubuntu is a joke, btw

TRG would back this up better than I can, I'm sure
EarDemon
I have no OEM bloat, on CTO devices where I can access the drive, I order it with the smallest allowed drive and crack the device open throw the factory drive in the garbage and put in my own WD Black and install Windows from bootable media. For Windows bloat, I install Windows using the English - World option which limits preinstalled MS bloat.

Windows and Office features I wish to block, like CoPilot and Cortana, macro enabled Office files and others are blocked with GPOs.

Between keeping all software up to date, doing firmware updates, putting IoT devices on a separate VLAN, running Symantec Endpoint (say what you want about it, it's been good to me) and practicing safe hex, I'm vigilant but not paranoid about security.

With NVMe SSDs, my cold boot up time on all devices is under 30 secs as well. Fast boot disabled, BitLocker drive encryption enabled.

I have nothing against Linux, been paying with it on and off since 2004ish, it's just not the right solution for me.
HipKat
it's just not the right solution for me.
As I said above, and, FWIW, I run Win11 Pro and Arch on separate 250 GB NVME drives, using F8 to select which I boot to, with a 1TB SSD for storage, accessible to both OSs and a third formatted Nvme I want to use to learn Kali. It was much faster to setup Arch than it was to strip down Windows. Windows still takes much longer to boot.

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harshness
I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows.
What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI? By many accounts, it has been going downhill since Windows 7.

There are Linux desktops that offer Windows or Mac UIs, yet you don't hear much chatter about them outside of questions about when the creators might get sued.
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EarDemon
What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI?
Because it's what I prefer. I know I've said this a few times, I use Open Shell to give me the cascading start menu a la WIN 95 and NT4.0. The only reason I went from Windows Vista to 7 back in the day was because of Classic Shell. I cannot stand anything other than the OG start menu from 30+ years ago. I'm using ExplorerPatcher to give me Windows 10 UI elements of the taskbar and right click context menus.

If you could take a look at how I set up Windows 95, you'd find many similarities to how I use 11.
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Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Kiss - The Art Of Noise
long_time_Dish
Beautiful Noise - Neil Diamond
sdfntx
White Noise - Jessie Baylin
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dishstaller
White Rabbit - Jefferson Airplane
long_time_Dish
White Sun - The Doobie Brothers
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
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Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
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dfergie
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
R
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
Will the OG Gibbs be on NCIS or will Tony be on NCIS Origins?
dfergie
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.
R
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.
I saw Gibbs walk into the door, but I did not see Tony.
Jimbo
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.
Tony was Not in this episode ... you may remember Gibbs walking into the office and those around Welcomed him home, Voices only.

If you also watch the Mothership, Tony has been in that one ...
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.

I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.

Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
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Foxbat
Doing a Google of the HughesNet Email notice, it seems that HughesNet has been trying to eliminate hosting emails since 2019. And with HughesNet filing Chapter 11 back in August, it would be a smart move to switch to a more stable Email provider. Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

SpaceX's Starlink and the Cellular 5G Home Internet solutions have pretty much relegated HughesNet and its high latency, low bandwidth Internet service to History. If Earth had shorter days, maybe a Geostationary Internet Solution might have stood a fighting chance…
navychop
If Earth had shorter days,

Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

🙄
Foxbat
Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

🙄
Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…😉
K
Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

I still have one of those although I've been trying to wean myself off it.
JSheridan
Among my many email accounts I still have a .netscape.net which AOL assimilated a while back.
EarDemon
Yep, I got the notification a few days ago. I'm not totally surprised.

Never used the address for anything, so no big loss to me.
meStevo
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Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

Keri Russell Wow GIF by NETFLIX
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K
Probably starting season 3 tonight. :D
meStevo
Finished it this evening. General impressions with no story spoilers, but will spoil it anyways as it just came out today.

Not quite as impactful of a finale as past seasons I thought, we'll see how far down the rabbit hole things go as the latest plot twists and turns unravel. Thought this season had a full episode or two too much rom-com style disagreements, but it was more or less paid off later. Ultimately didn't enjoy that being more of a throughline in the stories this season compared to what I remember of the priors.

My least favorite of the 3 seasons, but still very good. Really wonder how far they'll go with things, hard to see a nuclear attack or something ever actually happening. They just had a better story to tell and more meaningful beats in the prior season.
KAB
KAB
Not in a hurry to watch it this time.
K
Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.
meStevo
One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

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Bobby
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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jsmit86
Regarding the no sound bug when watching 4K HDR events or DVR recordings with Dolby set to ON:
I got rolled back to H708 last night after getting an email from the support team. It fixed the bug.

The email indicated that they believed they found the issue, and if the fix works, they would roll it out via an update in the coming weeks.

So... we should see that bug exterminated in the near future.
long_time_Dish
148-04 says the NASCAR race on at noon on Sunday. Be interesting to see if it is.
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Bobby
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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Foxbat
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.🙁

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
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Bobby
Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.🙁

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.
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Bobby
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.
As an edit, you need to sub to the National Action Pack at $12 a month to receive those channels.
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Foxbat
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
I've saved a boatload of money!
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
Foxbat
The only thing I can see that is compelling is the AV1 decoding done in the A19's hardware instead of the current ATV4K's processor.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only stick I with the Apple tv's is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is not worth sticking with it. Later, Apple!
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