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I have DirecTv at my house in Florida and my parents have it at their house in metro Chicago. Both of us have HR10-250s (2 each) and HD sets. I keep getting phone calls from DirecTv telling me that I am going to have to replace my HR10 if I want to keep DirecTv. At my house in Florida, I do not have a choice right now (although I have called BrightHouse to see if they will be bringing service to my area any time soon).
I have been very frustrated with DirecTv for allowing their TiVo products to stagnate. Now that DirecTv is no longer owned by New Corp, is there any chance they will fix this?
Quite a few of my friends have switched to HD TiVo boxes and either cable or FiOS. I got my Parents an HD TiVo box and am letting them try that instead of DirecTv. They had RCN for internet (20Mb/s down, 2 Mb/s up) and when I called I discovered that they would save $10 a month by adding a cable card and cable service.
My first impressions are very favorable (I am visiting them for the next week). The signal appears much less compressed than my DirecTv, but more importantly I really love some of the TiVo features, like swivel search. I am going to give them two more weeks to decide if they care enough about getting the west coast feeds (grandfathered) for recording Cold Case Files[\i] during football season, or if they will just drop DirecTv altogether.
Right now, I am keeping my HR10-250. As long as I can still get HBOHD, SHOHD and Universal HD, I will keep DirecTv. If they turn off my TiVo, I will turn them off and just get some HD TiVo boxes as 90% of what I watch is OTA HD. With my Blu-ray player and OTA HD TiVo, I think I could survive.
This leads to two questions:
1) Is DirecTv really turing off their MPEG-2 TiVo receivers?
2) Has anyone heard anything about a new DirecTv TiVo box?
- Alan
I have been very frustrated with DirecTv for allowing their TiVo products to stagnate. Now that DirecTv is no longer owned by New Corp, is there any chance they will fix this?
Quite a few of my friends have switched to HD TiVo boxes and either cable or FiOS. I got my Parents an HD TiVo box and am letting them try that instead of DirecTv. They had RCN for internet (20Mb/s down, 2 Mb/s up) and when I called I discovered that they would save $10 a month by adding a cable card and cable service.
My first impressions are very favorable (I am visiting them for the next week). The signal appears much less compressed than my DirecTv, but more importantly I really love some of the TiVo features, like swivel search. I am going to give them two more weeks to decide if they care enough about getting the west coast feeds (grandfathered) for recording Cold Case Files[\i] during football season, or if they will just drop DirecTv altogether.
Right now, I am keeping my HR10-250. As long as I can still get HBOHD, SHOHD and Universal HD, I will keep DirecTv. If they turn off my TiVo, I will turn them off and just get some HD TiVo boxes as 90% of what I watch is OTA HD. With my Blu-ray player and OTA HD TiVo, I think I could survive.
This leads to two questions:
1) Is DirecTv really turing off their MPEG-2 TiVo receivers?
2) Has anyone heard anything about a new DirecTv TiVo box?
- Alan
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Oops - my mistake! I thought he must have very rich friends.
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I have several friends who could afford it, but none who have it.
I cannot imagine that it would be worth it. It was Premier, not Platinum (oops 
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Oops - my mistake! I thought he must have very rich friends.
I have several friends who could afford it, but none who have it.
I cannot imagine that it would be worth it. It was Premier, not Platinum (oops ).
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I see this posted from time to time at which I have to say...who cares (other then the Tivo diehards).
The HR21 records my shows and I watch them. What more do I need?
If Tivo is more important then content then by all means go where you can get Tivo. But most people find content and price the most important thing. They could care less what the DVR is, just so long as they have one. And 99% of the population has never used a Tivo and thinks all DVRs are "Tivo".
I see this posted from time to time at which I have to say...who cares (other then the Tivo diehards).
The HR21 records my shows and I watch them. What more do I need?
If Tivo is more important then content then by all means go where you can get Tivo. But most people find content and price the most important thing. They could care less what the DVR is, just so long as they have one. And 99% of the population has never used a Tivo and thinks all DVRs are "Tivo".
I agree whole-heartedly. If you refuse to use anything but Tivo, then go elsewhere to keep using Tivo while getting considerably less HD. If you want the quantity of HD, make the switch and learn the new DVR. They both record HD content for later playback - that's what I'm looking for.The HR21 records my shows and I watch them. What more do I need?
If Tivo is more important then content then by all means go where you can get Tivo. But most people find content and price the most important thing. They could care less what the DVR is, just so long as they have one. And 99% of the population has never used a Tivo and thinks all DVRs are "Tivo".
I was a Tivo fan after several years of use, but the only thing I was dreading losing was the dual live buffers. I do indeed miss the DLB, but I just had to change my habits - I can't pause one show and go channels surf like I used to. It's not that big of a deal - well work losing that feature for the added HD content. And the menus are actually quite a bit faster with D* than Tivo.
If all things were equal, I would probably lean slightly towards Tivo - although it's pretty close. The D* receivers do some thing that I like better than the Tivo boxes too. It is also faster in most cases. I do prefer the guide layout on the Tivo and as I mentioned miss DLB. But since all things are not equal, I choose HD.
Good point about everyone calling their DVR "Tivo" - it's kind of become the generic term even though it's a brand, like "Kleenex", etc.
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People who want useful features.
How about Amazon Unbox with its ability to give one truly on-demand content, or Rhapsody for Music.
TiVo service is not more important than content, but it is the ability to discover content, not just record things about which you already knew that makes a DVR useful. TiVo suggestions and Swivel Search both function to find new content to watch.
In addition, Amazon Unbox also provides a great deal of (commercial free) content.
Most people do not read these forums, do not have HD and do not have any DVR. For them moving from no DVR to any DVR is an improvement. That does not mean that they would not prefer a better DVR experience, nor that we should be satisfied with DirecTv simply because they have given us something. I switched to DirecTv from Echostar because of TiVo. My parents are about to switch to RCN from DirecTv because of TiVo. If DirecTv does not fix things and if Brighthouse provides service to my house soon, I will also switch. DirecTv has dropped its quality through too much compression and its move from multiple equipment providers to single sourcing everything.
I hope they improve, but if they do not, they will lose my business (and that of many others).
- Alan
People who want useful features.
The HR21 records my shows and I watch them. What more do I need?
How about Amazon Unbox with its ability to give one truly on-demand content, or Rhapsody for Music.
TiVo service is not more important than content, but it is the ability to discover content, not just record things about which you already knew that makes a DVR useful. TiVo suggestions and Swivel Search both function to find new content to watch.
In addition, Amazon Unbox also provides a great deal of (commercial free) content.
Most people do not read these forums, do not have HD and do not have any DVR. For them moving from no DVR to any DVR is an improvement. That does not mean that they would not prefer a better DVR experience, nor that we should be satisfied with DirecTv simply because they have given us something. I switched to DirecTv from Echostar because of TiVo. My parents are about to switch to RCN from DirecTv because of TiVo. If DirecTv does not fix things and if Brighthouse provides service to my house soon, I will also switch. DirecTv has dropped its quality through too much compression and its move from multiple equipment providers to single sourcing everything.
I hope they improve, but if they do not, they will lose my business (and that of many others).
- Alan
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I do agree that you obviously want Tivo first so as suggested get the deal on a Tivo HD and get cable or Fios and be happy. No reason to not be happy.
Like what. Again, 95% (if not 99%) of people will never use the non-DVR features, in fact many don't even use all the DVR features. I know quite a few DVR owners that do nothing but pause live TV with it, they don't even record their programs. You try to explain what they can do with it and they glaze over and just say they watch their programs live because that's all they know for the past 30 years.
Easily done with Media Share on an HR20/21. I can listen to my thousands of MP3's or stream Internet radio stations. I can also watch You Tube videos and watch any online TV shows or movies I have downloaded. Quite easy actually.
I don't have a problem. In fact I can log on to my DirecTV account (say at work when I'm bored) and do all kinds of searches in the online guide and get suggestions like you get with Netflix and I can schedule anything I find to record with a click of the button via remote scheduling. Yea, no suggestions on the box itself but then that's a Tivo thing that nobody else can copy probably due to patent issues.
Already stated that I can watch tons of commercial free online content already. Don't need Amazon Unbox. DirecTV also has dozens and dozens of VOD channels to which you can download programs. I'm pretty sure I could also view Amazon Unbox using the Windows Media extender, although I don't use Unbox so can't say for sure.
First off, over 30 million people have a DVR and that should be 40 million by year's end. Of that less then 4 million are Tivo. So believe me that a LOT of people have a DVR and have never used a Tivo.
I agree we should want a better DVR experience but guess what, to me I prefer the DVR experience I get from DirecTV then that I got from Tivo. The GUI/menu's are faster and easier to find things and make more sense. But again, that's *me*. You prefer the Tivo UI. And in the end it is all *personal preference*. But just because you prefer the Tivo UI doesn't make all others bad.
Obviously you haven't seen any of the MPEG4 HD.
Again, you have options to keep using Tivo, I'd suggest you be happy and make the jump.
Like what. Again, 95% (if not 99%) of people will never use the non-DVR features, in fact many don't even use all the DVR features. I know quite a few DVR owners that do nothing but pause live TV with it, they don't even record their programs. You try to explain what they can do with it and they glaze over and just say they watch their programs live because that's all they know for the past 30 years.
Easily done with Media Share on an HR20/21. I can listen to my thousands of MP3's or stream Internet radio stations. I can also watch You Tube videos and watch any online TV shows or movies I have downloaded. Quite easy actually.
I don't have a problem. In fact I can log on to my DirecTV account (say at work when I'm bored) and do all kinds of searches in the online guide and get suggestions like you get with Netflix and I can schedule anything I find to record with a click of the button via remote scheduling. Yea, no suggestions on the box itself but then that's a Tivo thing that nobody else can copy probably due to patent issues.
Already stated that I can watch tons of commercial free online content already. Don't need Amazon Unbox. DirecTV also has dozens and dozens of VOD channels to which you can download programs. I'm pretty sure I could also view Amazon Unbox using the Windows Media extender, although I don't use Unbox so can't say for sure.
First off, over 30 million people have a DVR and that should be 40 million by year's end. Of that less then 4 million are Tivo. So believe me that a LOT of people have a DVR and have never used a Tivo.
I agree we should want a better DVR experience but guess what, to me I prefer the DVR experience I get from DirecTV then that I got from Tivo. The GUI/menu's are faster and easier to find things and make more sense. But again, that's *me*. You prefer the Tivo UI. And in the end it is all *personal preference*. But just because you prefer the Tivo UI doesn't make all others bad.
Obviously you haven't seen any of the MPEG4 HD.
Again, you have options to keep using Tivo, I'd suggest you be happy and make the jump.
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I almost put mom on the Premier when they were giving current subs a $20 a month discount. But I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would come out ahead on the Platinum because you'd almost have to be using all 10 receivers 24/ 7.
Still, I guess some folks have more bucks than brains.
I have several friends who could afford it, but none who have it.
I almost put mom on the Premier when they were giving current subs a $20 a month discount. But I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would come out ahead on the Platinum because you'd almost have to be using all 10 receivers 24/ 7.
Still, I guess some folks have more bucks than brains.
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There are a lot of us here.
I almost put mom on the Premier when they were giving current subs a $20 a month discount. But I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would come out ahead on the Platinum because you'd almost have to be using all 10 receivers 24/ 7.
Still, I guess some folks have more bucks than brains.
There are a lot of us here.
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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN
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Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...
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Many of us have used a universal LNBF mount (or get creative with L brackets and plumbers tape - perforated metal strapping). Use a few inches of aluminum tube (or a piece of 1x2" lumber) to extend the support arm (replacing the plastic mount used by DirecTV and Dish) to place the LNBF throat opening at the correct distance from the reflector, the correct height and at the correct angle. Nothing magical... simply place the new linear LNBF in the center at the same distance, height and angle as the current combo.
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I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
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Season 2 order already in hand:
'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1
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'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1
I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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This started a couple months ago. I have 2 H3s on one network, both with 2 EHD identical 3 TB seperately powered so all recordings are accessible by all 4k & J4s (8 of them).
On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
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JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?
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Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?
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