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Hey what's up?

I'm hoping somebody can shed a little light on a few things for me. I'm looking to buy the Panasonic SC-BT100 Blu-ray HT system. I'm usually very good at hooking up these kind of things but I never had to deal with HDMI with a surround system before and I just want to be clear on some things.

What I want to be able to do is get not only the Blu-ray HT to be in surround sound (that's easy enough) but I want to be able to have my cable TV and my Xbox 360 to be in surround sound as well.

I have the Panasonic TH-50PX60U TV set that is currently connected though HDMI to my digital HD DVR cablevison box. That leaves one HDMI input left on my TV. Which I plan on using to the Blu-ray HT when I get it. Now I'm guessing this doesn't make my cable tv watching surround sound as well, right? What do I need to do to make this happen?

Also my Xbox 360 is currently hooked up to my TV via component cables. What's needed to make this surround sound to the HT system? I have a Nintendo Wii too but I don't think I'm going to have any slots or whatever left on the HT to make this surround sound as well. So I'm just mostly concerned about what I mentioned above.

ANY help you can provide is greatly appreciated.

Thank you so much for your time.

Corey.
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charper1
Thanks for the links. I'm just curious- what is the difference from the purple HDMI and the black one?


Its a 6ft, 28AWG thats on sale with ferrite cores pre-installed; the same exact cable in black is $4.19.

The other is a 24AWG (higher gauge conductor), CL2 in-wall rated; but no ferrite cores.
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Its a 6ft, 28AWG thats on sale with ferrite cores pre-installed; the same exact cable in black is $4.19.

The other is a 24AWG (higher gauge conductor), CL2 in-wall rated; but no ferrite cores.

Oh, I see. But could I not just go with lets say two 28AWG's? Is there some major difference I'm missing here? For instance which HDMI would be connecting from the TV to the Blu-ray player? or does it really matter?

Because I have a spare Monster HDMI cable from maybe a year ago that I could possibly use. I'm just not sure if it's 1.3a or not.

I just want to be a bit clearer on this before I make a move.

Also while I'm here can you confirm these are the right Optical digital cables I need to make my Cable TV and Xbox 360 surround sound?

http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10229&cs_id=1022901&p_id=2764&seq=1&format=2

Thanks so much for your time.
teachsac
Oh, I see. But could I not just go with lets say two 28AWG's? Is there some major difference I'm missing here? For instance which HDMI would be connecting from the TV to the Blu-ray player? or does it really matter?

Because I have a spare Monster HDMI cable from maybe a year ago that I could possibly use. I'm just not sure if it's 1.3a or not.

I just want to be a bit clearer on this before I make a move.

Also while I'm here can you confirm these are the right Optical digital cables I need to make my Cable TV and Xbox 360 surround sound?

For only $3.81 each when QTY 50+ purchased - PREMIUM 6FT Optical Toslink Cable w/ Metal Fancy Connector | Toslink to Toslink

Thanks so much for your time.

it just needs to be Cat2 certified. Most Monster from that time is. THat optical cable is fine for the cable box and xbox. Does your cable box have HDMI? If so, you could use the monster for that and use the two Mono 28's for the 55 and the output from the receiver to the TV.

S~
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it just needs to be Cat2 certified. Most Monster from that time is. THat optical cable is fine for the cable box and xbox. Does your cable box have HDMI? If so, you could use the monster for that and use the two Mono 28's for the 55 and the output from the receiver to the TV.

S~


Okay my cable box does have one HDMI slot and I am currently running it from the box to my TV. My TV has two HDMI slots so that leaves me with one left and like I said I have one spare HDMI cable to use from awhile back. Now being that I am running HDMI from my cable box to TV do I need an optical cable to make it surround sound or no? The 360 I know for sure I'll need an optical cable because I'm running it with components.

So now knowing what I'm working with for sure what do you suggest?
teachsac
Okay my cable box does have one HDMI slot and I am currently running it from the box to my TV. My TV has two HDMI slots so that leaves me with one left and like I said I have one spare HDMI cable to use from awhile back. Now being that I am running HDMI from my cable box to TV do I need an optical cable to make it surround sound or no? The 360 I know for sure I'll need an optical cable because I'm running it with components.

So now knowing what I'm working with for sure what do you suggest?

You could run the HDMI from your cable box into one of the four inputs on the receiver, run a second HDMI from the 55 into the second input on the receiver and then one cable out to the TV.

If you don't want to run your receiver all the time, then you could run an HDMI cable from the cable box to the TV and then an optical cable to the receiver for when you want surround sound.

Or since your cable box is only 1080i, you could run component to your tv and some sort of audio cable, optical or rca, depending on what your set has. Lots of options. Keeping the audio and vodeo together will cut down on the risk of lipsync though.

S~
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You could run the HDMI from your cable box into one of the four inputs on the receiver, run a second HDMI from the 55 into the second input on the receiver and then one cable out to the TV.

If you don't want to run your receiver all the time, then you could run an HDMI cable from the cable box to the TV and then an optical cable to the receiver for when you want surround sound.

Or since your cable box is only 1080i, you could run component to your tv and some sort of audio cable, optical or rca, depending on what your set has. Lots of options. Keeping the audio and vodeo together will cut down on the risk of lipsync though.

S~

Well that sure explains a lot. For some reason I couldn't picture how my cable box and Blu-ray player would work if I did what you just said. I guess I'm not used to the kind of receiver I'm about to get. In the past I've dealt with HTIB DVD players. But, yeah, I think I know what I must do now and yes I definitely plan on running my receiver all the time.

So as it stands I'll be needing 3 HDMI cables and one optical cable for my 360.

I'm just unclear on one thing with the setup you mentioned. Right now I have the cable box on my HDMI #1 slot and my DVD player on HDMI #2. So when I'm watching TV I have it on the "HDMI 1" mode and when watching DVDs I have to switch to the "HDMI 2" mode. But you got me a little confused on how things would work when I get all this. Because your setup only has one HDMI going to the TV itself.

I get what your saying and it makes sense but how would I go back and forth with Blu-ray and cable TV with them both technically coming through one HDMI from the cable out to the TV which would be HDMI #1.

I hope I don't have you confused now... lol. I'm sure this is a lot easier than I'm making this seem.

But, hey, thank you so much for all your help. You guys have no idea how much I appreciate all of this.
charper1
The A/V receiver will be acting as a switching unit. All you audio and video sources will connect INTO it and then it will supply one OUT to the TV.
teachsac
Well that sure explains a lot. For some reason I couldn't picture how my cable box and Blu-ray player would work if I did what you just said. I guess I'm not used to the kind of receiver I'm about to get. In the past I've dealt with HTIB DVD players. But, yeah, I think I know what I must do now and yes I definitely plan on running my receiver all the time.

So as it stands I'll be needing 3 HDMI cables and one optical cable for my 360.

I'm just unclear on one thing with the setup you mentioned. Right now I have the cable box on my HDMI #1 slot and my DVD player on HDMI #2. So when I'm watching TV I have it on the "HDMI 1" mode and when watching DVDs I have to switch to the "HDMI 2" mode. But you got me a little confused on how things would work when I get all this. Because your setup only has one HDMI going to the TV itself.

I get what your saying and it makes sense but how would I go back and forth with Blu-ray and cable TV with them both technically coming through one HDMI from the cable out to the TV which would be HDMI #1.

I hope I don't have you confused now... lol. I'm sure this is a lot easier than I'm making this seem.

But, hey, thank you so much for all your help. You guys have no idea how much I appreciate all of this.

If you're running your receiver all of the time, that makes it extremely easy and will limit cables. As charper said, your receiver will act like a switch and go between sources with a push of a button on your remote.

Run 1 HDMI cable (use the monster) from the cable box to input 1 of your receiver. Run a second HDMI cable from the 55 into input 2 of the receiver. Run 1 HDMI cable from the receiver into input 1 of the TV. You will then assign the inputs in the setup menu of the receiver.

Now your XBox you would run component and an optical cable to the receiver and a set of component to your TV. I don't believe that the receiver would upconvert component to HDMI.

Let us know when you get everything and we'll help you set it up. I can also be found in the BD35/55 thread in the Blu-ray forum

S~
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If you're running your receiver all of the time, that makes it extremely easy and will limit cables. As charper said, your receiver will act like a switch and go between sources with a push of a button on your remote.

Run 1 HDMI cable (use the monster) from the cable box to input 1 of your receiver. Run a second HDMI cable from the 55 into input 2 of the receiver. Run 1 HDMI cable from the receiver into input 1 of the TV. You will then assign the inputs in the setup menu of the receiver.

Now your XBox you would run component and an optical cable to the receiver and a set of component to your TV. I don't believe that the receiver would upconvert component to HDMI.

Let us know when you get everything and we'll help you set it up. I can also be found in the BD35/55 thread in the Blu-ray forum

S~


Heh. It's really that simple, huh? I guess I just totally forgot this receiver handles video as well. I was just looking at it as audio. So, cool, I will definitely let you guys know when I get this and I'm about to hook them up and then you can let me know whatever last minute details you think I should know. But I feel pretty good about it now and sounds like it's going to be a blast when it's all said and done.

I can't thank you guys enough.

Later.
charper1
...and if you don't have the A/V unit yet, there are units out that can take multiple types of connection IN; such as s-vid, component and HDMI all at once and then OUT them all on one cable the the TV.
Paul Wozniak
OPPO makes a HDMI switch that I believe costs only a c-note. From what I've read it works really well. Also I use a PS3 for my Blu-Ray, and I recommend it highly. I get more use out of it by access my music off my computer (as a music server), than anything else. The picture is as good as any other unit, and it plays my SACD's also. One simple HDMI connection, and you're good to go.
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Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...
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Titanium
Yes, many have hacked a DirecTV or Dish Network dish before. Quite undersized, but would receive the 97w KU stations with an LNBF swap. Make a template to set the LNBF face angle and distance from the reflector. Remove the current circular polarity LNBFs and make a bracket to hold the replacement linear LNBF in the correct centered position. Remember to set the polarity skew.
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would probably also work well for NHK on 101W and possibly for PBS on 99W. I used one for a while on 30W. Just keep in mind that because it's undersized for those satellites, it might work fine in clear weather but won't have much margin to account for signal degradation during rain/snow
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If you can find one, the Shaw / Star Choice 75e ellipticals are great for use on 97, 99, and 101W. They are really just rebranded ChannelMaster 75 cm reflectors and use linear LNBFs by default out of the box.

Everyone else's mileage may vary.
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I have read that some have converted this type dish but after giving it a good look, it's the lnb conversion that is the bottleneck. Does anyone have a picture of their attempt to configure the lnb? I watched a video on youtube from the save it for parts guy and he used duct tape! Guess it worked but I'm thinking something a bit more permanent!
Thanks to all for your interest and replies...
Titanium
Many of us have used a universal LNBF mount (or get creative with L brackets and plumbers tape - perforated metal strapping). Use a few inches of aluminum tube (or a piece of 1x2" lumber) to extend the support arm (replacing the plastic mount used by DirecTV and Dish) to place the LNBF throat opening at the correct distance from the reflector, the correct height and at the correct angle. Nothing magical... simply place the new linear LNBF in the center at the same distance, height and angle as the current combo.
www.amazon.com/Universal-Single-Bracket-Holder-FTA-US/dp/B074L85WK2
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Mississippi Squirrel Revival - Ray Stevens
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Mississippi Cotton Picking Delta Town - Charley Pride
harshness
Delta Dawn - Tanya Tucker
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Can't You See - Marshall Tucker Band
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dfergie
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$6.099​
Premium$6.599​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
Bobby
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
dishstaller
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

Last night it was about $4.17 gas, $6,19 diesel.
harshness
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.
On the West Coast, a 40-cent differential is common. It used to be 30 cents before the prices rose above $3.

A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic), which is a whole different discussion.
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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harshness
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
MikeD-C05
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This started a couple months ago. I have 2 H3s on one network, both with 2 EHD identical 3 TB seperately powered so all recordings are accessible by all 4k & J4s (8 of them).

On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
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navychop
It'll only see two EHDs at a time.
Almighty1
JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?

This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.

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JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?

This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.

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As I understand it, the android is just the display signal from the hopper+. I can disconnect the H+ and plug the hdmi directly into the master hopper3.
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Almighty1
As I understand it, the android is just the display signal from the hopper+. I can disconnect the H+ and plug the hdmi directly into the master hopper3.
It is not just a display signal as explained above. When you have the Hopper+ connected, it uses Android TV for pretty much everything except for the satellite signal which is why it uses the DISH app for the standard Hopper 3 functions. But that should not matter because in your case, CasinoH3 is the Hopper 3 with the EHD which is what you call the naughty one based on the dates you mentioned and Master Bedroom which has the Hopper Plus connected to the Hopper 3 that does not have the problem. So one way to test the theory is disconnect the Hopper Plus from that Hopper 3 and then use the EHD's connected to CasinoH3 currently to see if the same issue exists. That way you will know if the problem is there without a Hopper Plus connected or if CasinoH3 is just a bad hopper to begin with.

Normally when you disconnect the Hopper Plus, it will be 30 minutes or more before you can use the Hopper 3 again.

What you want to do is:
hold the POWER button in, not the red reset button, for about 45 seconds or so while disconnecting the power to the Plus and moving the HDMI cable and it will reboot to the normal Hopper only immediately.
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It'll only see two EHDs at a time.
Yes, I have only two online at a time.
One comes online, the other one consistently will not come online
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Yes, I have only two online at a time.
One comes online; the other consistently won't. Also, when I connect the EHD, the USB Detected status light on the EHD itself changes from Red to Green. But the Hopper (713) does not start the EHD read process. The light changes to indicate that the EHD has detected a valid USB cable, but the Hopper does not recognize it.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I got the 713 update yesterday.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
This has been an ongoing issue. A fix is coming, probably in the next software version.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I have Dish Hopper and Hopper Plus and also have Alexa Echo. I link the Alex skill to Dish and it asks me to enter the pairing code shown on the TV. I go into Dish Settings and there is no Alexa shown. Not sure what to do.
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HipKat
Guys,
Android is Google. Google is Android. Android OS and Google TV are the same thing.
The Hopper+ and Joey 4's run Android TV, which is Google's television version of Android.
That means under the hood, you have:
  • Linux kernel
  • Android framework
  • Google TV / Android TV interface
  • Google Play Store for TV apps
Alexa is the competition. Google is not going to host their competition.
The old Hopper Carbon UI is NOT Google so that's why Alexa was on there.
H
Understood. But here's the rub - Google Assistant setup is ALSO missing from the Hopper Plus setup. I'm a paraplegic.and need to use voice controls as much as possible but I can't press a button on the remote to activate Google Assistant. I prefer ALEXA (or ALEXA+) but I have one older google device and will go that route IF they make it available. BTW calling Dish Customer Service is no help- they just say they have no info on if/when there will be an update.
navychop
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What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?
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navychop
Tell Alexa verbally what to do.