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Re: TiVo Inc. v. EchoStar, et al.. Case No. 2-Q4CV-01

Dear Judge Folsom:

Pursuant to the Court's April 23, 2008 Order (Docket No. 822), plaintiff TiVo submits two topics of discussion for the status conference on May 30, 2008: (1) Enforcement of the Court's Permanent Injunction, and (2) Determination of the damages TiVo sustained during the stay of the injunction. The issues relating to each topic are set forth in Section B of this letter.

To provide prompt resolution of these issues, TiVo requests:
• A hearing at the earliest possible date to determine whether EchoStar should be held
in contempt for its failure to disable the DVR functionality in the Infringing Products and for its placement of new infringing DVRs (and new EchoStar products that are only colorably different); and

• Permission to serve limited discovery to obtain additional information before determining the damages TiVo sustained during the stay of the injunction, and, if necessary, bringing a motion for an order to show cause why EchoStar is not in contempt for the continuing use of the Infringing Products, changed only by downloading modified, but still infringing, software (and new EchoStar products that are only colorably different).

TiVo is also prepared to address any questions that the Court may have about the pending Bill of Costs that TiVo submitted on September 22, 2006, which is awaiting resolution. TiVo's requested costs total $333,600.03.

A. BACKGROUND

On September 8, 2006, this Court entered a Final Judgment and Permanent Injunction against all defendants (collectively "EchoStar") for willful infringement of U.S. Patent No. 6,233,389 (the "Barton Patent"). The amount of the judgment was $93,969,159.00, which included the jury verdict of $73,991,964.00, supplemental damages of $13,819,160.00, and prejudgment interest of $6,158,035.00. (Amended Final Judgment and Permanent Injunction, Docket No. 806 (attached as Exhibit A), and Order Re Supplemental Damages and Prejudgment Interest for the Period of August 1, 2006 to September 8, 2006, Docket No. 819).

The Permanent Injunction required EchoStar to do, among other things, the following:

(a) cease "making, using, offering to sell, selling, or importing into the United States," the infringing models of EchoStar DVR receivers (DP-501, DP-508, DP-510, DP-522, DP-625, DP-721, DP-921 and DP-942, the "Infringing Products") "and all other products that are only colorably different therefrom in the context of the Infringed Claims"; and

(b) "disable the DVR functionality (i.e., disable all storage to and playback from a hard disk drive of television data) in all but 192,708 units of the Infringing Products that have been placed with an end user or subscriber. The DVR functionality . . . shall not be enabled in any new placements of the Infringing Products." (Amended Final Judgment and Permanent Injunction, Ex. A, at 2).

The injunction's exception for 192,708 units represents the then-existing units on which the jury had awarded TiVo lost profits damages. (Verdict Form, Docket No. 690).

TiVo did not seek an injunction on these specific units. Lost profits have not been awarded for any units placed after the jury verdict, so the injunction's "lost profits" exception could not logically apply to any units placed after the jury verdict.

This Court denied EchoStar's request for a stay of injunction but, on October 3, 2006, the Federal Circuit granted a stay pending appeal. In persuading the Federal Circuit to enter a stay, EchoStar argued that if it were unable to offer DVRs, it faced "a high risk of losing a significant portion of its existing and potential subscribers" and "if the injunction were to cause just half of EchoStar's current customers with DVRs to leave EchoStar for another provider, EchoStar's revenues would fall by nearly $90 million per month." (EchoStar's Emergency Motion to Stay The District Court's Injunction, at 18 (citing Martin Decl. ¶ 8) (emphasis in original)).


On November 28, 2007, in connection with the reexamination proceedings initiated by EchoStar, the United States Patent and Trademark Office confirmed the validity of all of the claims of the Barton Patent. On January 31, 2008, the Federal Circuit affirmed the jury's finding that EchoStar infringed claims 31 and 61 (the "software claims") of the Barton Patent. TiVo Inc. v. EchoStar Commc'ns Corp., 516 F.3d 1290, 1310 (Fed. Cir. 2008). The Federal Circuit reversed the jury's finding of literal infringement of claims 1 and 32 (the "hardware claims"), and declined to rule on whether there was nevertheless sufficient evidence of infringement under the doctrine of equivalents, "leav[ing] that issue for the district court to resolve in the event that, on remand, TiVo decides to continue to pursue the hardware claims in light of this decision." Id. at 1305.

The Federal Circuit stated that the stay pending appeal would dissolve when the appeal became final, and "[a]t that time, the district court can make a determination as to the additional damages, if any, that TiVo has sustained while the stay of the permanent injunction has been in effect." Id. at 1312.

EchoStar requested rehearing of this decision by both the panel and the Circuit en banc but this motion was denied on April 11, 2008. The mandate of the Federal Circuit issued April 18, 2008. On this date, pursuant to the January 31, 2008 Order, the stay dissolved and the Permanent Injunction took effect.1

B. TOPICS OF DISCUSSION

1. Enforcement of the Permanent Injunction

Although the injunction required EchoStar to "disable the DVR functionality," with respect to the Infringing Products, EchoStar has refused to do so. Despite the plain language of the injunction, EchoStar argues that it need not disable the DVR functionality because it has modified its software so that it supposedly no longer infringes TiVo's patent. On May 12, 2008, EchoStar made its modified source code available for review by TiVo. EchoStar also waived privilege and produced to TiVo three opinions of counsel relating to EchoStar's modified software. After review of the software that EchoStar provided and the opinion letters, TiVo does not believe that the modifications avoid infringement. In fact, TiVo believes that EchoStar is violating the Court's injunction in at least three different ways.

1 As security for payment of the judgment, the parties agreed to the deposit of monies in an escrow account. The amount in escrow totals $104,241,309 through April 30, 2008. EchoStar has announced that it intends to file a petition for writ of certiorari to the U.S. Supreme Court, thereby delaying payment of the escrowed funds to TiVo.

First, TiVo believes that EchoStar is in violation of the injunction by failing to "disable the DVR functionality," and by selling new DVRs, regardless of any changes to the software. In fact, what EchoStar is doing now is what it proposed to the Court in 2006, and which the Court rejected. Specifically, EchoStar's 2006 proposal was that the Court enjoin only "the provision of infringing DVR software upon activation." (EchoStar's (1) Opposition to TiVo's Motion for Entry of Judgment and (2) Cross-Motion to Stay any Injunction Pending Appeal, Docket No. 737, at 16). In opposing EchoStar's language, TiVo warned that EchoStar's formulation would be a recipe for abuse:

This clever formulation is an invitation for EchoStar to engage in mischief. Such an injunction would only result in EchoStar providing what it deemed as "non-infringing" DVR software to its already-found-to-be-infringing DVRs, creating the opportunity for interminable disputes to determine what exactly is "infringing DVR software." (TiVo's (1) Reply Re Motion for Entry of Judgment and Permanent Injunction and (2) Opposition to EchoStar's Cross-Motion to Stay Injunction, Docket No. 747, at 11). This Court rejected EchoStar's proposal and adopted, instead, the straightforward "disable the DVR functionality" provision that appears in the Permanent Injunction.

If EchoStar believed that the "disable the DVR functionality" provision of the injunction was inappropriate, EchoStar could have challenged it, but — despite multiple opportunities before both this Court and the Federal Circuit — it chose not to do so. EchoStar cannot simply ignore the Court's unambiguous Order, even if EchoStar were to contend, which it has not previously done, that the injunction as written is inappropriate. W. Water Mgmt., Inc. v. Brown, 40 F.3d 105, 108 (5th Cir. 1994) (prohibiting defendants from arguing in a contempt proceeding that injunction was overbroad because "collateral attack on an injunction during contempt proceedings is prohibited if earlier review of the injunction was available" (citing United States v. Ryan, 402 U.S. 530, 532 n.4 (1971))).

Nevertheless, EchoStar has proceeded as if its proposed injunction language had been accepted, not rejected, and has refused to disable the DVR functionality. EchoStar announced to the public that it had modified its software and instructed its distributors that this modified software obviates the effect of the Court's injunction in this case. EchoStar's notice to its distributors, and another notice clarifying the first, are attached as Exhibit B to this letter.

Second, EchoStar is misusing the Court's language that requires EchoStar to "disable the DVR functionality (i.e., disable all storage to and playback from a hard disk drive of television data) in all but 192,708 units of the Infringing Products that have been placed with an end user or subscriber." (Amended Final Judgment and Permanent Injunction, Ex. A, at 2 (emphasis added)). In particular, EchoStar is taking the position that it can place new infringing DVRs on an ongoing basis, as long as the total number of infringing DVRs does not exceed 192,708. The Court's language, however, is clear: the 192,708 number applies to existing DVRs that had already been placed with customers. The injunction prohibited EchoStar from delivering any new infringing DVRs.

Third, even if EchoStar's injunction language were adopted, EchoStar would still be violating it. All EchoStar has done to the infringing products is download a modified version of its software to its otherwise unmodified set top boxes. TiVo was given access to some of EchoStar's modified software this week and is in the process of reviewing it. The changes described in the opinion letters produced by EchoStar do not render the products noninfringing, and TiVo has seen nothing so far in its review of source code that changes this. However, to avoid any doubt, TiVo will complete its analysis of the allegedly new software and, with the Court's permission, will request written discovery on both the Infringing Products and those believed to be only colorably different (attached as Exhibit C) and possibly two depositions, depending on the content of EchoStar's discovery responses and documents.

EchoStar's violations of the injunction constitute contempt of court. The standard as set forth by the Fifth Circuit is that "[a] party commits contempt when he violates a definite and specific order of the court requiring him to perform or refrain from performing a particular act or acts with knowledge of the court's order." SEC v. First Fin. Group, 659 F.2d 660, 669 (5th Cir. 1981). Regarding the modified software, the court need only compare it to the original infringing product. Unless there is "more than a colorable difference" between the two, a contempt proceeding is appropriate. KSM Fastening Sys., Inc. v. H.A. Jones Co., 776 F.2d 1522, 1532 (Fed. Cir. 1985). Then, so long as the modified software "falls within the . . . adjudicated scope of the [patent] claims," EchoStar is in contempt of court. KSM Fastening, 776 F.2d at 1530.

Until EchoStar is held in contempt, it will continue to conduct its business as if the injunction were never issued. TiVo is prepared to make a motion now for an Order To Show Cause Regarding Contempt with respect to EchoStar's failure to disable the DVR functionality and its placement of new infringing DVRs (grounds one and two above).

With respect to EchoStar's modified software, TiVo requests permission to serve limited
discovery to obtain additional technical information before bringing a motion on ground
number three.2 While TiVo believes that EchoStar is in contempt on all three grounds, the2 Although EchoStar voluntarily provided some information about the modified software, it refused to provide other information that TiVo requested. For example, EchoStar provided TiVo access to the relevant source code but refused to allow TiVo to analyze the code using the same software used by EchoStar to develop the code, which is necessary for the efficient analysis of the code. EchoStar also refused to produce any documents relating to the first two grounds appear to be primarily legal issues. TiVo can present these right away. To provide timely relief from EchoStar's continuing infringement and violation of the Court's injunction, TiVo requests a hearing on EchoStar's failure to disable the DVR functionality and its placement of new infringing DVRs at the earliest available time.

2. Determination of Damages During the Stay of the Injunction

The Federal Circuit remanded the case with instructions that the District Court determine the damages that TiVo incurred during the period that the injunction was stayed. TiVo, 516 F.3d at 1312. The Federal Circuit's recent decision mAmado v. Microsoft Corp., 517 F.3d 1353, 1361-62 (Fed. Cir. 2008), makes clear that damages for infringement taking place after the injunction should be at a royalty rate higher than what the jury found to be an appropriate pre-verdict reasonable royalty. Id. at!362n.2. hi assessing post-verdict damages, the trial court must consider financial and economic information related to the change in the parties' bargaining positions and economic circumstances as a result of the determination of liability, as well as the evidence and arguments presented in connection with the granting of the injunction and the stay. Id. at 1362.

To that end, TiVo asked EchoStar to provide certain information related to the assessment of damages during the stay period, e.g., the number of infringing units and financial information related to EchoStar's nationwide "Better Than TiVo" advertising campaign undertaken during the stay period to attract new customers at TiVo's expense.

EchoStar refused to provide informally most of the damages information that TiVo has requested. Accordingly, TiVo requests permission for limited formal discovery relating to the damages issues. Once TiVo has obtained the information from EchoStar, TiVo will promptly file a motion requesting those damages.
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Zero327
God Tivo whines a lot...
F
God Tivo whines a lot...

I am not a tivo zealot by any stretch of the imagination, and I am not a lawyer. I have been an interested party in a couple of software lawsuits and I would only say this:

1) even thought they sound like they are whining, Tivo's arguments have prevailed throughout the case.

2) For Dish and Echostar's sake, I hope they are seriously working on a settlement.
costanzas_wallet
What I dont get is... What about the other cable companies.. like TIME WARNER, RCN, COMCAST... they all use dual tuner dvr's with the same functions... Skip ahead, the whole 9... why aren't they being crucified as well?
Thomas22
What I dont get is... What about the other cable companies.. like TIME WARNER, RCN, COMCAST... they all use dual tuner dvr's with the same functions... Skip ahead, the whole 9... why aren't they being crucified as well?
One tuner, five hundred tuners - it doesn't matter. Red herring. Comcast has a contract with Tivo. Time Warner may get sued next.
Hall
Time Warner may get sued next.
Time Warner ? They use (typically) Scientific-Atlanta boxes with Pioneer / Aptiv software.
Thomas22
Time Warner ? They use (typically) Scientific-Atlanta boxes with Pioneer / Aptiv software.
I really have no idea whether they infringe. Both manufacturers and sellers can be sued though, anyone that profits.
J
...2) For Dish and Echostar's sake, I hope they are seriously working on a settlement.

Judging by Tivo's filing, even they don't expect that to happen. It is too late to settle, makes no difference, might as well fight to the very end.

Tivo is mindful of the new software claim by DISH, so much so they initiated the discovery out of the court, and continues to do more so through the judge. Now even the judge will be forced to look at the new software claim by DISH, before DISH even makes such request.

Additionally, while the hardware verdict was overturned by the appeals court, the same court did suggest parties (mainly Tivo) to address it, but Tivo does not. So the injunction that was formulated on both the software and hardware verdicts at the time, is now standing on only one leg, a more important one yes, but still somewhat crippled.

The argument can go like this, your honor, since our hardware never infringed as far as this lawsuit is concerned, and since our new software no longer infringes, it only begs to reason that the injunction should be lifted.

I fear the judge did not want this to happen, but now both Tivo and DISH insist that he does, he will have to look at the new software claim very carefully before making a decision. It is not over yet.

He could still find DISH in contempt of court while agreeing to look at the new software claim, but if so the appeals court will likely struck him down like the first time (when he refused to stay his injunction pending appeal and when the appeals court said no no, we are staying it while looking at DISH's appeal), simply because this time he needs to look at the new software issue thoroughly, at request by no one other than Tivo.
Hall
....bringing a motion for an order to show cause why EchoStar is not in contempt for the continuing use of the Infringing Products, changed only by downloading modified, but still infringing, software (and new EchoStar products that are only colorably different)
How does TiVo know it still infringes ? It's not an issue of "copying" code but instead the fact that it does a certain process. That is so lame..... Using that argument, Dish will NEVER not be infringing without removing so much of the functionality of the DVR that it's near useless.
Hall
I really have no idea whether they infringe. Both manufacturers and sellers can be sued though, anyone that profits.
Pure desperation on TiVo's part then.... What can Time Warner do ? They can't pay a licensing fee for a product they don't own. They can't remove the functionality. Oh wait, they can agree to use TiVo software on the set-tops.
Thomas22
Pure desperation on TiVo's part then.... What can Time Warner do ? They can't pay a licensing fee for a product they don't own.
Sure they can. TiVo wouldn't refuse a reasonable licensing fee.
J
How does TiVo know it still infringes ? It's not an issue of "copying" code but instead the fact that it does a certain process. That is so lame..... Using that argument, Dish will NEVER not be infringing without removing so much of the functionality of the DVR that it's near useless.

Tivo did seek discovery out of the court and DISH did provide them limited evidence. You would think the evidence DISH provided to Tivo volunteerily was solidly in support of the DISH's non-infringing claim, and in addition, Tivo is seeking additional discovery of the new software from the judge to get more evidence just "to be sure."

Judging from the above Tivo was only making a claim, just like when DISH claimed their old software was not infringing.

That said, I must say to prove the new software is non-infringing is not a very easy thing for DISH to do. It is possible but I just don't know if they had enough time to have the thing wrapped around yet.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

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Strange Days - Nazareth
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Dancing Days - Led Zeppelin
dishstaller
Dancing in the Street - Van Halen
long_time_Dish
Bakers Street - Gerry Rafferty
Bobby
Bakers Street - Gerry Rafferty
Let me fix that for you:
Baker Street - Gerry Rafferty
JSheridan
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I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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S
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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Jimbo
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
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Mister B
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
S
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
can't forget the little blue m&m's
charlesrshell
can't forget the little blue m&m's
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
T
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
Because he didn't have a fleet of reusable rockets. Starlink works because SpaceX is able to launch hundreds (thousands?) of their Starlink satellites for what a single geostationary Internet satellite costs to build and launch on a disposable launcher.
T
But how is it reusable if it's disposable
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That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
My gf is 29 years younger than me :shh
Almighty1
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
He does not have the resources aka $$$ compared to Elon Musk as in reality, Elon can eat Charlie for lunch or even mop the floor with Charlie if he wanted to.
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osu1991
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long_time_Dish
Also watched part 2 about a week or so ago after rewatching part 1. It's not as faithful to the book as I was hoping for. Part 1 stayed fairly faithful to the novel, but part 2 took some liberties that I felt were rather excessively non-novel. It looks like a prequel series will happen before part 3. My issue is: there's no prequel that was written as a novel, so what will it be pulled from? Or will it just be "based loosely" on the novel?
K
Also watched part 2 about a week or so ago after rewatching part 1. It's not as faithful to the book as I was hoping for. Part 1 stayed fairly faithful to the novel, but part 2 took some liberties that I felt were rather excessively non-novel. It looks like a prequel series will happen before part 3. My issue is: there's no prequel that was written as a novel, so what will it be pulled from? Or will it just be "based loosely" on the novel?
There is a bunch of other Dune written by Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert (Franks son). I think the series in production is taken from one of their books about the Bene Gesserit.
long_time_Dish
There is a bunch of other Dune written by Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert (Franks son). I think the series in production is taken from one of their books about the Bene Gesserit.
Correct. I've read all of them (yes, it took awhile, better part of a year, in my spare time). And they can't really consider or classify a series about the Bene Gesserit as a prequel. Sure, I suppose they can call it that, if they want to, because it begins before the time of Paul Atredies, but it's still a stretch. It's a Dune-related novel, not a prequel as we generally think of prequels...
long_time_Dish
Well, it looks good! I just hope they stayed close to the trilogy, but it doesn't look like it.
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TRG
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dishdude
It's probably been 2 decades since I've listened to an AM radio station. Very rarely listen to FM any more.
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I am 1 that wants the AM to Stay ....
That said, since '08 I have had Sat radio available to me ... I think I have turned on AM 3 or 4 times, just to see if its still there.

Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
Even FM, I haven't really had on since '13ish, I may turn it on from time to time, just to see if its still there.
harshness
Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
Automation has seen to that. You can't get evening drive traffic reports where I live, much less disaster reports.
dishstaller
Very rarely listen to FM any more
That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
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That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
dishstaller
Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
No, just regular FM stations. One is the country station I mentioned and the other is a Talk Radio station which used to get fantastic results but honestly, since the death of Rush Limbaugh, talk radio just doesn't do as well. There were two guys who had an early morning show which was hugely popular here in the southeast but one of them retired a couple years ago and the show just doesn't garner the same numbers as it used to.
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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comfortably_numb
Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU
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Foxbat
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
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But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
S

most carriers do. that's why they send updates that slow phones down!! i buy unlocked phones no effect to me
S
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
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But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00 :oops:. can we say over priced garbage!!!
harshness
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
comfortably_numb
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.

Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"