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I am a little confused on how an LNBF works versus an LNB on a feedhorn.

1. On a C-band LNB the servo motor moves the wave guide from a signal from the receiver when going from odd to even channel numbers. The LNB gets the Ver or Horz signal and sends it to the receiver.
2. With an LNBF there is only the coaxial cable from the receiver to the LNBF. When I installed it I rotated it enough to get a spot where I got both Horizontal and Vertical channels after I set the receiver for using a LNBF. This is where I get confused. Is there a servo in the LNBF that is controlled by the LNB's power? I was told there is a servo inside. I do not think there is. I think the LNBF works because of the way the wave guide is set and the fact it receives the signal both vertical and horizontal at the same time and the receiver does the internal "switching" of the polarity. Am I right, if not please explain.
3. The reason why I am asking the above is because the instructions that came with the DSR-410 states you can use a LNB and make sure it is on vertical polarity when on W5. Are all the channels vertical?
4. The Skyvison instructions also show a diagram of a C-band LNF(f) with a high frequency splitter and the passive side of the splitter goes to your analog or 4DTV receiver and the other goes to the DSR-410. If you are using your 4DTV and an LNB how does the DSR control the polarity if you are on a vertical channel and need to be on a horizontal channel on W5?
5. Where do you get one of those splitters? Radio Shack does not have that type, at least my local does not. I would like to use that to hook up my Uniden so when I do move the dish monthly I can land back on W5.
6. Also in 2009, where there still be analog C-band such as the welcome page on W5 / tr 23?
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1. On a C-band LNB the servo motor moves the wave guide from a signal from the receiver when going from odd to even channel numbers. The LNB gets the Ver or Horz signal and sends it to the receiver.
in the inside of the LNB there is a skew notch...just one. The servo motor moves it from veritcal to horizontal.....the servo turns that notch

2. With an LNBF there is only the coaxial cable from the receiver to the LNBF. When I installed it I rotated it enough to get a spot where I got both Horizontal and Vertical channels after I set the receiver for using a LNBF. This is where I get confused. Is there a servo in the LNBF that is controlled by the LNB's power? I was told there is a servo inside. I do not think there is. I think the LNBF works because of the way the wave guide is set and the fact it receives the signal both vertical and horizontal at the same time and the receiver does the internal "switching" of the polarity. Am I right, if not please explain.
the LNBF's have 2 notches 90 degrees apart from each other. That is how you can get both polarities with one cable and no servo motor. Its voltage triggered. What you put above is correct. The receiver distinguishes between H and V polarity.

3. The reason why I am asking the above is because the instructions that came with the DSR-410 states you can use a LNB and make sure it is on vertical polarity when on W5. Are all the channels vertical?
no. They're on both but to get the "hit" from Skyvision or NPS you need to be on a a V channel

4. The Skyvison instructions also show a diagram of a C-band LNF(f) with a high frequency splitter and the passive side of the splitter goes to your analog or 4DTV receiver and the other goes to the DSR-410. If you are using your 4DTV and an LNB how does the DSR control the polarity if you are on a vertical channel and need to be on a horizontal channel on W5?
if you are using a LNB (as in point 1) you need to use the analog box to change to horizontal. The 4DTV's (920,922,905) have a servo motor on the back if you are doing it that way. If you have a LNBF the 410 can control it

5. Where do you get one of those splitters? Radio Shack does not have that type, at least my local does not. I would like to use that to hook up my Uniden so when I do move the dish monthly I can land back on W5.
my local Rat Shack has them...they just have to go up to 2200 mhz

6. Also in 2009, where there still be analog C-band such as the welcome page on W5 / tr 23?
the 2009 analog shutdown is for OTA TV channels only...so your local stations. Nothing to do with cable/satellite
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Thanks for the answers. It cleared up the confusion.
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Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI
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Bobby
Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI

That brought tears to my eyes.
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dishstaller
That brought tears to my eyes.
Really...REALLY hate to do this to you Bobby, but....


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOo3jzkhYA&pp=ygUed29tYW4gaGVhcnMgZm9yIHRoZSBmaXJzdCB0aW1l
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Okay....if you think you can take it....this one brought tears to my eyes when I first saw it and did again just now.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i5UCDwHMatg?feature=share
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This came up in my suggestions probably because of the video I posted. I had NO idea exactly what being color blind actually was. Now I understand why that man was so blown away with seeing the trees......a lot of color blind people see green as brown, so grass, trees, etc all look brown.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i18_RngKJDQ
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Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

OK, looked it up, that was Godzilla Minus One
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Bruce
Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

OK, looked it up, that was Godzilla Minus One
At theaters, only in Japanese, on Disc and Netflix, available in English.
Foxbat
New trailer has dropped:
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Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.

Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.

You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.



View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4


Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.


View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ
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Foxbat
Looks like Episode 55 is over at 09:00 HST, just under six hours. The USGS said the fountains reached 720' or 220 meters.
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The USGS Kīlaeua Webcam #1 has been showing overflows and doming from the North vent overnight. Maybe the volcanic plumbing has settled back into its two-three week cycle of fountaining?

But I do miss the little cinder cone that broke up in the last episode.
Foxbat
Sorry, I should have posted these earlier:

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We're still waiting on the start of Episode 56.
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At 08:01 HST 11/05/2026, the North Vent produced what I would call a "wet burp" after the precursory "pistoning" events, small amounts of lava pouring out of the vent for a few seconds to minutes and then everything recedes. There must have been a gas bubble holding thing back because two minutes later the lava started flowing out of the vent in all directions. Then, at 08:25, it stopped. What a tease! I thought this was how Episode 56 started.

About 12 minutes later at 08:38, the North vent once again started overflowing and picked up steam at 08:42. By 09:00, slight doming could be seen in the pool of lava in the vent. Surely this is it!

But, 09:50 and things wind down again. By 09:57 HST there's just fumes coming out of the vent. Phooey.

But then 10:00 comes and the heavy lava flows kick in again. This time seems like the real deal. At 10:30 HST there's little spurts of lava flying up in the air over the vent, but more from gas than a steady fountain of lava. This looks promising!

11:30 HST and the color of the lava is definitely hotter, and the intensity has picked up to a definite dome and precursor to fountaining. The USGS calls Episode 56 as officially starting at 12:10 HST:

Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-11-05 22:29:12 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice

Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)

Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE

Issued: Thursday, November 5, 2026, 12:29 PM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H514
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii

Summary: Episode 56 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 12:10 PM HST on November 5, 2026.

Volcanic Activity:
Episode 56 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 12:10 PM HST on November 5, 2026.

Lava fountain heights are relatively low at about 100 ft (30 meters), but will likely increase. Ground-level sensors near the eruptive vents indicate that winds are blowing from the northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.
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BlackHitachi
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Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

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Next 3:10 to Yuma
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dfergie

Last of the Dogmen is my favorite of hers.
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Star Wars Despecialized Edition

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dishstaller
Just watched Napoleon. Good night.....all of those young men dying for the egos of their leaders. Now we can kill at a distance, back then you saw the man you were killing eye to eye.
comfortably_numb
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Not sure saving $24/year is worth it unless you're a hardcore Philo user. I'll stick with monthly.

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Jimbo
Not sure saving $24/year is worth it unless you're a hardcore Philo user. I'll stick with monthly.

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$24 for the Year, would be more useful.
Howard Simmons
$24 for the Year, would be more useful.
But when you cancel you still have to watch until the plan runs out. With monthly you're done at the end of the month.
Jimbo
But when you cancel you still have to watch until the plan runs out. With monthly you're done at the end of the month.
Sorry, my point was the expense.
comfortably_numb
$24 for the Year, would be more useful.

Philo's monthly price is reasonable, IMO, because it's still the cheapest way I'm aware of to get all the linear Discovery networks AND access to the Discovery Go apps.
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Philo's monthly price is reasonable, IMO, because it's still the cheapest way I'm aware of to get all the linear Discovery networks AND access to the Discovery Go apps.
I guess if it was something I used on a regular basis, I suppose.
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In other Philo news..

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Bobby
Oh boy, I can't wait! 😂
K
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'Rockford Files' Reboot Gets NBC Pilot Order

I grow tired of all the reboots. Most I don't bother with but will depend on the actor chosen.
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long_time_Dish
Yeah, I'll check it out as well, but shan't be holding my breath...It'll be tough to equal James Garner in that role...
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...It'll be tough to equal James Garner in that role...
I can think of a few actors (including some females) who might fit the bill.

This will all depend on the storyline. I'm not sure how well it will translate. Modern TV hasn't been all that kind to PIs and even less kind to CIs (confidential informants).
K
Premier is Saturday, Jan 2nd. Moving to Thursday on the 7th.
long_time_Dish

I wonder how they're/if they're going to do something like the answering machine message opening? It was always funny...
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.

Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd​ scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.

It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list. :mad:

Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?
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dishstaller
I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.
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I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.
I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list
dishstaller
I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list
Like I said.....that has been many years ago. Swapped my 722K for a Hopper in 2012.

It does seem like I remember having to delete the existing channels when we did a rescan. Back then our local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in. Got so bad that I stopped selling OR installing OTAs....something I had been doing since 1984 so you know it HAD to be pretty bad.
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You made one of my points for me with this comment, Dishstaller:

"... local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in ..."
dennispap
I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.
I remember that also on my 722.
dishstaller
I remember that also on my 722.
Thanks.....has been too many years to remember clearly.
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Bobby
Keep in mind that the 722 had a built in OTA tuner and the 722K had a plug in module for OTA. The Hoppers and Wallys use an add on USB OTA dongle. I believe they are entirely different.
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