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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I am hoping someone knows this (I would be surprised if no one does, given how much details is known about every other satellite data stream). I am asking in this Forum, since it is the Forum frequented by everyone who might know the answer, and is somewhat related to Uplinks.

Previously when I asked this in a short, simple way, some people had no idea what I was asking for, so I will give an example.

Suppose you have a Dish Pass set for "The Joe Blow Show".

The day before, there was no Guide listing information indicating any showing of "The Joe Blow Show" today.

However, the day before, the World Championship of Blah-Blah ended after 5 games (4-1) and so there will not be a sixth game.

So, the Network decides to air an episode of "The Joe Blow Show" instead of tomorrow's scheduled sixth game.

If your ViP622 gets the Guide Listing update, then it will record the show tomorrow.

But if your last update of the EPG was before Dish Network changes the Guide Listing, then it will not record "The Joe Blow Show" - because you will still have the listing of "Sixth Game of the World Championship".

Dish Network offers a 9-day EPG listing. In order for it not to be an 8-day listing the next day, they have to update the Guide and add another day's listings. That has to happen at least once a day.

So, I want to know "at what time is that EPG Guide Listing changed every day" - meaning at what time every day is the EPG streaming data changed?

We know that uplinks and tables are usually changed at roughly 11:30 am Mountain Time on Wednesday.

Software updates are usually spooled at Midnight Mountain Time, often on Thursday/Friday.

So, it seems likely that EPG data streams are updated on a daily basis at a specific time...
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UGAChance
Also, I wonder whether putting the 622 into standby will always download a Guide information update, or will it always wait for the time specified in the "Updates" screen ?

It will only download a new GUIDE if your GUIDE is more than 32 hours out of date... or you force a GUIDE download by running a Checkswitch Test.

The EEPG is always spooling... just it only is new every 6 hours.
S
Are we getting facts or scripted info ?

It will only download a new GUIDE if your GUIDE is more than 32 hours out of date... or you force a GUIDE download by running a Checkswitch Test.

The EEPG is always spooling... just it only is new every 6 hours.
Any proof of your first statement ?
I concur about 6 hours 'new' - do you have real info ? Should we dig into real data ? If it changing 10 or 11 times per day as you see from stream analysis, then there are new info.Who will do that if no changes ? Right ?
S
I thought I'll keep that post updating, but somehow it become locked. So, I'm continue in new post:

Changes in EEPG stream [PDT]:
6/15
03:30:55am: All sections (171063/129291454) of EEPG Ver 17 collected.
05:04:30am: All sections (171063/129185676) of EEPG Ver 18 collected.
11:04:31am: All sections (171063/129255752) of EEPG Ver 19 collected
05:00:00pm: All sections (171063/130070373) of EEPG Ver 20 collected
11:04:34pm: All sections (171063/130243849) of EEPG Ver 21 collected
6/16
03:32:18am: All sections (171063/130243849) of EEPG Ver 22 collected
05:04:35am: All sections (171063/130323041) of EEPG Ver 23 collected
07:32:27am: All sections (171063/130323124) of EEPG Ver 24 collected
09:30:32am: All sections (171063/130320874) of EEPG Ver 25 collected
11:04:35am: All sections (171063/130177240) of EEPG Ver 26 collected
11:31:02am: All sections (171063/130178204) of EEPG Ver 27 collected
01:31:41pm: All sections (171063/130553201) of EEPG Ver 28 collected
03:31:14pm: All sections (171063/131409206) of EEPG Ver 29 collected
05:04:38pm: All sections (171063/131241579) of EEPG Ver 30 collected
05:30:47pm: All sections (171063/131283229) of EEPG Ver 31 collected
11:04:38pm: All sections (171063/131104707) of EEPG Ver 00 collected
6/17
03:31:28am: All sections (171063/131104707) of EEPG Ver 01 collected
05:04:39am: All sections (171063/131009117) of EEPG Ver 02 collected
07:30:39am: All sections (171063/131011667) of EEPG Ver 03 collected
11:04:39am: All sections (171062/130931912) of EEPG Ver 05 collected [v04 skipped by Dish]
11:32:07am: All sections (171062/130959864) of EEPG Ver 06 collected
01:33:03pm: All sections (171062/131209221) of EEPG Ver 07 collected
03:31:48pm: All sections (171062/131482033) of EEPG Ver 08 collected
05:04:40pm: All sections (171062/131247459) of EEPG Ver 09 collected
05:31:54pm: All sections (171062/131249126) of EEPG Ver 10 collected
11:04:40pm: All sections (171062/131455125) of EEPG Ver 11 collected
6/18
03:32:26am: All sections (171062/131455125) of EEPG Ver 12 collected
05:04:41am: All sections (171062/131341623) of EEPG Ver 13 collected
09:31:35am: All sections (171062/131341975) of EEPG Ver 14 collected
11:04:42am: All sections (171061/131203766) of EEPG Ver 15 collected
11:33:05am: All sections (171421/131478144) of EEPG Ver 16 collected
01:31:50pm: All sections (171423/131745507) of EEPG Ver 17 collected
03:31:26pm: All sections (171423/131745981) of EEPG Ver 18 collected
05:04:42pm: All sections (171423/131541912) of EEPG Ver 19 collected
05:30:46pm: All sections (171423/131545464) of EEPG Ver 20 collected
07:30:37pm: All sections (171423/131547774) of EEPG Ver 21 collected
11:04:43pm: All sections (171423/131378296) of EEPG Ver 22 collected
6/19
03:32:43am: All sections (171423/131378296) of EEPG Ver 23 collected
05:04:43am: All sections (171423/131512533) of EEPG Ver 24 collected
09:31:09am: All sections (171423/131512642) of EEPG Ver 25 collected
11:04:45am: All sections (171423/131955727) of EEPG Ver 26 collected
11:30:57am: All sections (171423/132445311) of EEPG Ver 27 collected
03:31:16pm: All sections (171423/132471250) of EEPG Ver 29 collected
05:04:44pm: All sections (171423/131547084) of EEPG Ver 30 collected
05:30:42pm: All sections (171423/131552684) of EEPG Ver 31 collected
07:30:41pm: All sections (171423/131553244) of EEPG Ver 00 collected
11:04:45pm: All sections (171423/131161465) of EEPG Ver 01 collected
6/20
03:32:31am: All sections (171423/131161465) of EEPG Ver 02 collected
05:04:34am: All sections (171423/131099417) of EEPG Ver 03 collected
09:31:33am: All sections (171423/131099059) of EEPG Ver 04 collected
11:04:33am: All sections (171423/130684848) of EEPG Ver 05 collected
11:30:34am: All sections (171423/130685699) of EEPG Ver 06 collected
01:30:31pm: All sections (171423/131375554) of EEPG Ver 07 collected
03:30:29pm: All sections (171423/131359748) of EEPG Ver 08 collected
05:04:32pm: All sections (171423/130245239) of EEPG Ver 09 collected
05:30:34pm: All sections (171423/130254763) of EEPG Ver 10 collected

Hope one week of monitoring will give enough info for find patterns of full cycle.
S
I could watch it a few more days to present whole week, but existing info could lead us to a conclusion:
- those rounded time points are [PDT]:
AM - 3:30, 5:00, 7:30, 9:30, 11:00, 11:30;
PM - 1:30, 3:30, 5:00, 5:30, 7:30, 11:00.
Total up to 12 per day.
S
Changes in EEPG stream [PDT]:
6/15
03:30:55am: All sections (171063/129291454) of EEPG Ver 17 collected.
05:04:30am: All sections (171063/129185676) of EEPG Ver 18 collected.
11:04:31am: All sections (171063/129255752) of EEPG Ver 19 collected
05:00:00pm: All sections (171063/130070373) of EEPG Ver 20 collected
11:04:34pm: All sections (171063/130243849) of EEPG Ver 21 collected
6/16
03:32:18am: All sections (171063/130243849) of EEPG Ver 22 collected
05:04:35am: All sections (171063/130323041) of EEPG Ver 23 collected
07:32:27am: All sections (171063/130323124) of EEPG Ver 24 collected
09:30:32am: All sections (171063/130320874) of EEPG Ver 25 collected
11:04:35am: All sections (171063/130177240) of EEPG Ver 26 collected
11:31:02am: All sections (171063/130178204) of EEPG Ver 27 collected
01:31:41pm: All sections (171063/130553201) of EEPG Ver 28 collected
03:31:14pm: All sections (171063/131409206) of EEPG Ver 29 collected
05:04:38pm: All sections (171063/131241579) of EEPG Ver 30 collected
05:30:47pm: All sections (171063/131283229) of EEPG Ver 31 collected
11:04:38pm: All sections (171063/131104707) of EEPG Ver 00 collected
6/17
03:31:28am: All sections (171063/131104707) of EEPG Ver 01 collected
05:04:39am: All sections (171063/131009117) of EEPG Ver 02 collected
07:30:39am: All sections (171063/131011667) of EEPG Ver 03 collected
11:04:39am: All sections (171062/130931912) of EEPG Ver 05 collected [v04 skipped by Dish]
11:32:07am: All sections (171062/130959864) of EEPG Ver 06 collected
01:33:03pm: All sections (171062/131209221) of EEPG Ver 07 collected
03:31:48pm: All sections (171062/131482033) of EEPG Ver 08 collected
05:04:40pm: All sections (171062/131247459) of EEPG Ver 09 collected
05:31:54pm: All sections (171062/131249126) of EEPG Ver 10 collected
11:04:40pm: All sections (171062/131455125) of EEPG Ver 11 collected
6/18
03:32:26am: All sections (171062/131455125) of EEPG Ver 12 collected
05:04:41am: All sections (171062/131341623) of EEPG Ver 13 collected
09:31:35am: All sections (171062/131341975) of EEPG Ver 14 collected
11:04:42am: All sections (171061/131203766) of EEPG Ver 15 collected
11:33:05am: All sections (171421/131478144) of EEPG Ver 16 collected
01:31:50pm: All sections (171423/131745507) of EEPG Ver 17 collected
03:31:26pm: All sections (171423/131745981) of EEPG Ver 18 collected
05:04:42pm: All sections (171423/131541912) of EEPG Ver 19 collected
05:30:46pm: All sections (171423/131545464) of EEPG Ver 20 collected
07:30:37pm: All sections (171423/131547774) of EEPG Ver 21 collected
11:04:43pm: All sections (171423/131378296) of EEPG Ver 22 collected
6/19
03:32:43am: All sections (171423/131378296) of EEPG Ver 23 collected
05:04:43am: All sections (171423/131512533) of EEPG Ver 24 collected
09:31:09am: All sections (171423/131512642) of EEPG Ver 25 collected
11:04:45am: All sections (171423/131955727) of EEPG Ver 26 collected
11:30:57am: All sections (171423/132445311) of EEPG Ver 27 collected
03:31:16pm: All sections (171423/132471250) of EEPG Ver 29 collected
05:04:44pm: All sections (171423/131547084) of EEPG Ver 30 collected
05:30:42pm: All sections (171423/131552684) of EEPG Ver 31 collected
07:30:41pm: All sections (171423/131553244) of EEPG Ver 00 collected
11:04:45pm: All sections (171423/131161465) of EEPG Ver 01 collected
6/20
03:32:31am: All sections (171423/131161465) of EEPG Ver 02 collected
05:04:34am: All sections (171423/131099417) of EEPG Ver 03 collected
09:31:33am: All sections (171423/131099059) of EEPG Ver 04 collected
11:04:33am: All sections (171423/130684848) of EEPG Ver 05 collected
11:30:34am: All sections (171423/130685699) of EEPG Ver 06 collected
01:30:31pm: All sections (171423/131375554) of EEPG Ver 07 collected
03:30:29pm: All sections (171423/131359748) of EEPG Ver 08 collected
05:04:32pm: All sections (171423/130245239) of EEPG Ver 09 collected
05:30:34pm: All sections (171423/130254763) of EEPG Ver 10 collected
11:04:30pm: All sections (171423/130037436) of EEPG Ver 11 collected
6/21
03:30:56am: All sections (171423/130037436) of EEPG Ver 12 collected
05:04:31am: All sections (171423/129495442) of EEPG Ver 13 collected
11:xx:xxam: All sections (171423/129xxxxxx) of EEPG Ver 14 collected
05:xx:xxpm: All sections (171423/129yyyyyy) of EEPG Ver 15 collected
11:xx:xxpm: All sections (171423/129737394) of EEPG Ver 16 collected
6/22
...

Done for one week - any taker for conclusions ?
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
We were up in Pigeon Forge, TN a month ago and we couldn't get anything on our phones to work on mobile data...the Ookla speed test app couldn't even do a speed test. I have an older 13 and went into my settings and turned off the 5G, making it use LTE exclusively....did a speed test of over 300mbps so obviously the 5G bands were overwhelmed. Anyway, tried to do the same thing on my Wife's 15 and the cellular data options tab simply wasn't there. Any of you run into this? We've on Verizon
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osu1991
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
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meStevo
First 2 eps out and it's unsurprisingly great to watch Paul Bettany and James Spader work.
osu1991
Watched the first episode and enjoyed it.
Foxbat
James Spader gets the best lines so far. I'm enjoying this series.
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osu1991
Finished the 2nd episode tonight. I'm really liking it so far.

Still hate weekly releases though, especially the way Disney and HBO do it waiting until 8pm to premiere it.
Foxbat
Apparently I'm not a big enough nerd🤓 since I did not read every Marvel Comic Book ever published. If I had, I might be comparing the comics' version of events compared to what's transpiring in "Visionquest". So, I am enjoying the series a lot, not weighed down by previous expectations, knowing only the Avengers MCU movies and the "Wandavision" / "Agatha All Along" TV series.

I found the Mr Know-it-All channel from his discussion about "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds" and he's been gleefully picking these episodes apart, referencing the Marvel comics from the 1939 on. Turns out A.I. has been around since before World War II, at least in the comics. (Robots before that, yes, yes.) This show is going back into the archives.
TheForce
Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
It's time for my wife to get a new iphone as her iphone 12 is getting weak battery life test says 70% compared to when new. But it is beginning to show signs of screen freezing as well.
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Foxbat
It may be the year to update my 13 to the 15.
Foxbat
BTW, iOS 26.1 is now out for iPhone, along with the OS 26.1 updates for all other supported Appley iDevices.
osu1991
Bought a Motorola G Power 5G android phone as a spare and to use for some work stuff. Was tired of work stuff cluttering up my iPhone 16 Pro. Didn't take long to remember why I originally went to an iPhone. 4hrs doing updates to step up from Android 14 updates to Android 15 and latest updates for 15. Ads on the Play store above the app I searched for is something I don't really remember from the last android phone I had 13-14 yrs ago. Face ID on iphone has spoiled me too.

I just wanted a cheap phone mainly for work pictures or I would have got an 17 Pro and used my 16 for work stuff, but no need to spend that kind of money. I don't even have cellular service on the Motorola, just using it on WiFi and added my google voice number to it with the app.
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Foxbat
Apple released their 2025 Holiday video. Friendly forest fauna find forgotten phone…
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There's also a behind the scenes "Making of" video, too:
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Foxbat
BTW, iOS 26.1 is now out for iPhone, along with the OS 26.1 updates for all other supported Appley iDevices.
BTW, iOS 26.3 is now out for iPhone, along with the OS 26.3 updates for all other supported Appley iDevices.
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Foxbat
It may be the year to update my 13 to the 15.
Apple made me an offer I couldn't refuse. For whatever reason, they bumped up the Trade-in value of my iPhone 13, first to $180, and just recently to $195. So I took the Apple Cash from Apple card savings and the $195 trade-in and have a shiny new iPhone 17 nothing. The base 256 GB is more than enough for my needs.

Now I'm on the lookout for a leather case for it…
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My iPhone 17 is now running iOS 27.2 (whatever happened to 27.1.x?) and it looks like all the other Apple devices that can are releasing 27.2 (looks like it came out Monday)
"MysteryMan"
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Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.
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EarDemon
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.
WhiteBeard
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything. ☹️
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EarDemon
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything. ☹️
For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.

I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.
harshness
I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows.
What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI? By many accounts, it has been going downhill since Windows 7.

There are Linux desktops that offer Windows or Mac UIs, yet you don't hear much chatter about them outside of questions about when the creators might get sued.
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What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI?
Because it's what I prefer. I know I've said this a few times, I use Open Shell to give me the cascading start menu a la WIN 95 and NT4.0. The only reason I went from Windows Vista to 7 back in the day was because of Classic Shell. I cannot stand anything other than the OG start menu from 30+ years ago. I'm using ExplorerPatcher to give me Windows 10 UI elements of the taskbar and right click context menus.

If you could take a look at how I set up Windows 95, you'd find many similarities to how I use 11.
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EarDemon
I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.
harshness
Because it's what I prefer.
I hope you don't believe that makes it wonderful (especially when you're using workarounds for Microsoft's malfeasance).

I use LibreOffice as opposed to Microsoft office (even in Windows) because it's UI is like the Office of old, so I'm putting my money where my mouth is (in a manner of speaking). The ribbon was one of the worst ideas to come out Redmond.
HipKat
I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.
I used to pin the C: drive to the Win Taskbar and it would open in cascading style
"MysteryMan"
2026-10 Preview Update Builds: 26300.9818 and 26200.9818 (KB5127936) has been released. Moderate time needed for those choosing to perform a manual download/install/restart. Quality improvements only. No new operating system features.
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Show and Tell - Al Wilson
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On with the Show - The Rolling Stones
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The Show Must Go On - Pink Floyd
Bobby
If Love Must Go - Dobie Gray
FTA4PA
Drift Away - Dobie Gray
Van
Van
Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.
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dfergie
Dos cackleberrys over easy on top of 2 corned beef hash patties fried in skillet... Chocolate milk.
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Cold morning today, only 32 degrees. Fired up the oven and made cinnamon rolls (from a tube) and a pot of coffee.
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2 egg burrito with bacon and a side of hashbrowns. Coffee.

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Breakfast Quesadillas. Grilled flour tortilla filled with scrambled eggs, hash browns, chopped green chile, cheddar & Jack cheese and bacon. Coffee.

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Bobby
Taco omelette. 3 eggs, taco meat from yesterday, diced green chilis, cheddar cheese, chopped red onion, avocado, black olives, chopped tomato, La Victoria Salsa Brava.

This one was really, really good!