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Lord_Vader
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Hoa

I've had DISH installed for about 2 years now. My HOA finally decided to send me a letter saying that I never "applied" for "permission" to install a DISH on my property. To be honest, I didn't know that I had to.

Now they are asking for me to fill out the application, submit photos and a survey showing where I "plan to install the DISH" along with a $50 fee.

I was looking around and found a post with the link from the FCC. FCC Fact Sheet on Placement of Antennas

From reading this, it seems to me I should politely tell them they don't have the authority to require me to do this.

Thoughts / advice?

TIA
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Lord_Vader
I ended up doing nothing. I did call and say that the whole thing was prohibited bt the FCC and the lady argued with me. I just told her "Ok." and hung up. Never sent anything back and I haven't heard anymore about it.
dishcomm
I ended up doing nothing. I did call and say that the whole thing was prohibited bt the FCC and the lady argued with me. I just told her "Ok." and hung up. Never sent anything back and I haven't heard anymore about it.
Good..
Now if you can recall, what did she have to say in response?
I find it very amusing when people try to rationalize when the facts are clearly not on their side.
Lord_Vader
Good..
Now if you can recall, what did she have to say in response?
I find it very amusing when people try to rationalize when the facts are clearly not on their side.

I asked her what she wanted me to send in exactly. She said the application, a site survey, photos if possible, and the $50 fee.

I said I could send in the form and a copy of my inital survey with rough approximations on it, but I couldn't agree to the fee. She said the fee was required. I said it was prohibited because it increased the cost. She said it did not increase the cost of the installation so it was allowed. I said I would consider it and hung up.

After the call I went back and reread the FCC guidelines and now realize that the fee to review the application is prohibited as well so I didn't send anything in. They haven't said anything else.

Main thing is that there are far worse violations in the neighborhood that I am aware of and nothing is being done so I'm not going along with anything either. There are playsets everywhere, patios, decks, extraordinary landscaping, and other dishes. Most people I spoke to just tossed the notices. I imagine that an escalation may be coming, but I feel I am on better ground than others so we'll see.

Bottom line is that I now feel more firm in my decision that they have no right to require such a process. Maybe a notification and drawing like I offered, but no fees or approval ( per the FCC ).
C
What? Bull*%*#. If they are "small goverments" this is not right. I do not have the answer but I do know right from wrong.
B
I asked her what she wanted me to send in exactly. She said the application, a site survey, photos if possible, and the $50 fee.

I said I could send in the form and a copy of my inital survey with rough approximations on it, but I couldn't agree to the fee. She said the fee was required. I said it was prohibited because it increased the cost. She said it did not increase the cost of the installation so it was allowed. I said I would consider it and hung up.

After the call I went back and reread the FCC guidelines and now realize that the fee to review the application is prohibited as well so I didn't send anything in. They haven't said anything else.

Main thing is that there are far worse violations in the neighborhood that I am aware of and nothing is being done so I'm not going along with anything either. There are playsets everywhere, patios, decks, extraordinary landscaping, and other dishes. Most people I spoke to just tossed the notices. I imagine that an escalation may be coming, but I feel I am on better ground than others so we'll see.

Bottom line is that I now feel more firm in my decision that they have no right to require such a process. Maybe a notification and drawing like I offered, but no fees or approval ( per the FCC ).



HOAs have attorneys to do their legal work, I recommend sending them a copy of the FCC rules.

In my HOA rulings there is the following statement:

"The HOA rules and amendments voted upon may not violate any Federal, State and local laws."
dishcomm
I asked her what she wanted me to send in exactly. She said the application, a site survey, photos if possible, and the $50 fee.

I said I could send in the form and a copy of my inital survey with rough approximations on it, but I couldn't agree to the fee. She said the fee was required. I said it was prohibited because it increased the cost. She said it did not increase the cost of the installation so it was allowed. I said I would consider it and hung up.

After the call I went back and reread the FCC guidelines and now realize that the fee to review the application is prohibited as well so I didn't send anything in. They haven't said anything else.

Main thing is that there are far worse violations in the neighborhood that I am aware of and nothing is being done so I'm not going along with anything either. There are playsets everywhere, patios, decks, extraordinary landscaping, and other dishes. Most people I spoke to just tossed the notices. I imagine that an escalation may be coming, but I feel I am on better ground than others so we'll see.

Bottom line is that I now feel more firm in my decision that they have no right to require such a process. Maybe a notification and drawing like I offered, but no fees or approval ( per the FCC ).
Stick to your guns and don't take any crap from them. HOA's can be useful in protecting property values. On the other hannd HOA board members tend to go over the top with regulations and rules. Once these people get a foothold on their respective boards they stay forever. The longer they stay, the more power hungry they become. It gets to be as though you're living under a fiefdom.
I would send a copy of the FCC regs to the board president with a note attached saying you appreciate their efforts to maintain home values. And you'd be happy to cooperate at the expense of the HOA if the HOA could show you documented proof that a satellite dish can lower the value of your property and surrounding properties.
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