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skottey

Last reply Sep 21, 2008 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

Let down of DirecTV - front page sat guys

A few times a day I refresh the main page of Satelliteguys.us in hopes of seeing some new HD announced. Sure, once in a while there is the announcement of locals being added for the poor folks in those markets that went without locals in HD over D* for so long, but what about new HD nationals?

The newest sat is up and they added a handful of mediocre stuff in August.

I am longing for the day that Scott has a posting on the front page that says Direc TV adding 20+ REAL HD channels October 1st or something along those lines.

I am longing for the day I read about all the existing HBO/MAX carried channels getting carried in HD and maybe, just maybe, seeing that HBO Zone and HBO Comedy will be joining the lineup, in HD. Even better would be a few more of the Max channels put up in HD. It is well known that all 26 HBO/MAX channels are offered by HBO in HD. I believe Verizon will be, or is in some parts, the first to carry them all in HD (see OCT 2nd FIOS Tampa Market getting all of them). I am longing to see the addition of the Travel Channel and Fox News in HD on DirecTV. Before election night I hope? If not, maybe we will get lucky and Fox Biz HD will simulcast Fox News HD for ONE NIGHT for the election coverage.

I love DirecTV and have only had it for four or five months or so. It blows away BHN cable and is better than what I had with Dish Network. FIOS is coming to my neighborhood soon. I guess I am stuck in a contract with DirecTV so I will have to finish that out. What, is it two years? I don't even know. My love could turn to hate if they suddenly stop adding channels and other providers pull ahead. I am a football fan but dont need Sunday ticket since team is my local team and I don't carry about the rest. Same with hockey (but other carriers have Center Ice anyway)

How does the contract work anyway? How much does it cost to break it if I get fed up next year for example?

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darrencp22

Sep 17, 2008

No amount of HD channels would make me switch to Fios. Verizon is a horrid company. I hate everything about verizon. Too many bad experiences over the years to put a single additional penny in their pockets.

skottey

Sep 18, 2008

darrencp22 said:
No amount of HD channels would make me switch to Fios. Verizon is a horrid company. I hate everything about verizon. Too many bad experiences over the years to put a single additional penny in their pockets.

I deal with Verizon DSL all the time being in the residential repair computer field. DSL service breaks a lot. I hate Verizon too for this. But, with FIOS, is much more reliable. They don't have as many problems. Not like DSL. How about dealing with commercial phone lines. With their far out install dates and other problems.

But, if it ain't broke and you don't gotta call 'em, FIOS looks beautiful with that sexy lineup. How could that not sway you. Remember, you wouldn't have as many problems with FIOS as DSL for example.

I think most that really know Verizon hate them, but this product is far superior to other products out there and worth giving them a new shot.

charper1

Sep 18, 2008

Hmm. those anti-DSL comments almost fly in the face of nearly every comment and / or article of study I have read over the last half decade. I wonder if your customers might be part of their own DSL issues and not the service itself or the method of deliver (aka DSL)? I would love to see a 2007/08 report of actual reliability studies as opposed to hearsay reactions that generally come as a result of misplaced bitterness or confusion by end users.

In my many years of IT and network experience I have seen far more reliability and outage related issues with cable delivery vs DSL.

DSL does need a "speed boost" as it were and an expansion of sorts into areas not typically served; where cable has the only means of HS access.

skottey

Sep 19, 2008

charper1 said:
Hmm. those anti-DSL comments almost fly in the face of nearly every comment and / or article of study I have read over the last half decade. I wonder if your customers might be part of their own DSL issues and not the service itself or the method of deliver (aka DSL)? I would love to see a 2007/08 report of actual reliability studies as opposed to hearsay reactions that generally come as a result of misplaced bitterness or confusion by end users.

In my many years of IT and network experience I have seen far more reliability and outage related issues with cable delivery vs DSL.

DSL does need a "speed boost" as it were and an expansion of sorts into areas not typically served; where cable has the only means of HS access.

Your articles hold no water to a technicians eye-witness. I have seen it and dealt with it for years. Where do you live? Where I live (Tampa Bay market) Verizon DSL can be awful and both Bright House Networks and Knolgy cable (where serviceable) are pretty good most of the time. There are problematic areas for cable, mainly peninsula type areas where cable has one way in and one way out, but overall Verizon is far worse. Keep in mind that there are more laws in place regulating DSL and install dates are very difficult to deal with in a business setting (compared to what the laws are with their fiber service). I have literally dealt with a company losing DSL for 7 days because Verizon put it on the wrong line and had to make the change to one of their other office lines. Here we are, with a law firm with no Internet for 7 days! That is unaccecptable. I can pick on third parties like ATT that use Verizon for the last mile in my area. What a joke. But seriously? Where do you live? Because what is offered in your town may be starkly different than what is offered in mine.

Don't write me off or discredit me on this. FIOS will greatly reduce the customers dealings with Verizon as far as tech support and outages. It is more reliable. What I am saying is that I hate Verizon too, with their many problems, but I believe they have improved upon that enough that FIOS is worth a look for sure. It is worth a look even for some people that hate them and swear they would never do business with them again. Mainly because the product has the potential to be far superior than cable and is replacing DSL any chance Verizon gets.

charper1

Sep 19, 2008

skottey said:
Your articles hold no water to a technicians eye-witness. I have seen it and dealt with it for years. Where do you live? Where I live (Tampa Bay market) Verizon DSL can be awful and both Bright House Networks and Knolgy cable (where serviceable) are pretty good most of the time. There are problematic areas for cable, mainly peninsula type areas where cable has one way in and one way out, but overall Verizon is far worse. Keep in mind that there are more laws in place regulating DSL and install dates are very difficult to deal with in a business setting (compared to what the laws are with their fiber service). I have literally dealt with a company losing DSL for 7 days because Verizon put it on the wrong line and had to make the change to one of their other office lines. Here we are, with a law firm with no Internet for 7 days! That is unaccecptable. I can pick on third parties like ATT that use Verizon for the last mile in my area. What a joke. But seriously? Where do you live? Because what is offered in your town may be starkly different than what is offered in mine.

Don't write me off or discredit me on this. FIOS will greatly reduce the customers dealings with Verizon as far as tech support and outages. It is more reliable. What I am saying is that I hate Verizon too, with their many problems, but I believe they have improved upon that enough that FIOS is worth a look for sure. It is worth a look even for some people that hate them and swear they would never do business with them again. Mainly because the product has the potential to be far superior than cable and is replacing DSL any chance Verizon gets.

"Your articles hold no water to a technicians eye-witness."

That part right there leads me out of this discussion; I have been in the network and overall IT game for over 20 years in DFW, ATL, LAX, PHX, SFO, STL, MIA and MEM but you instantly attack by belittling my knowledge and ability to read & comprehend industry reports, data and such. Nevermind; I guess the local PC repair guys have all the insider info. I am out.

chewy

Sep 19, 2008

SeaCrest OUT!!!

hdtvtechno

Sep 19, 2008

chewy said:
SeaCrest OUT!!!

Be carefull thats copyrighted...

skottey

Sep 19, 2008

charper1 said:
"Your articles hold no water to a technicians eye-witness."

That part right there leads me out of this discussion; I have been in the network and overall IT game for over 20 years in DFW, ATL, LAX, PHX, SFO, STL, MIA and MEM but you instantly attack by belittling my knowledge and ability to read & comprehend industry reports, data and such. Nevermind; I guess the local PC repair guys have all the insider info. I am out.

Unbelievable. Good riddance I guess.

I am not belittling your knowledge. I am stating my own experience specifically in dealing with Verizon DSL on an almost DAILY basis. I deal with Roadrunner and Verizon DSL in the Tampa Bay market and DSL has a lot of problems here both commercially and with residential accounts. I can stand behind this. Your IT experience has nothing to do with what happens in my market. I have been in IT for 15 years (I'm only 33). If it makes you feel better about yourself to call me the "local PC repair guy" go ahead. I used to work corporate IT jobs traveling to different cities in my earlier days. I could have chased the corporate money from city to city like it sounds like you did but I am a family man and want to be home with my family. Some years back I started my "local computer repair guy" service so I could be home with my family evenings and not sitting in airports. And you know what? I couldn't be happier! I service residential accounts and small businesses and have a sizable customer base. I'm home every night to see my kids and wife and I make darn good money doing what I love. If you look down upon that, perhaps you are unhappy with all that running around to different cities handling networking nightmares that you probably didn't create but have little control over and are expected to fix.

No need to respond, as you already said you were "out." But you don't walk into a farming community and tell them how the tomatos grow. Don't tell me how reliable the Tampa Bay market Verizon DSL service is. I stand behind everything I have said here. Have a good day.

skottey

Sep 19, 2008

back on topic about DIRECTV..... still nothing new to report???? That CNET chart from yesterday does tell a lot.

darrencp22

Sep 19, 2008

skottey said:
I deal with Verizon DSL all the time being in the residential repair computer field. DSL service breaks a lot. I hate Verizon too for this. But, with FIOS, is much more reliable. They don't have as many problems. Not like DSL. How about dealing with commercial phone lines. With their far out install dates and other problems.

But, if it ain't broke and you don't gotta call 'em, FIOS looks beautiful with that sexy lineup. How could that not sway you. Remember, you wouldn't have as many problems with FIOS as DSL for example.

I think most that really know Verizon hate them, but this product is far superior to other products out there and worth giving them a new shot.

I've never had verizon dsl. I've has verizon landlines and cell. Both have been terrible experience. And if you call their customer service ... well I wont go there.

j.stouder

Sep 21, 2008

I really think that your millage will vary between DSL and cable depending on where you live. I had a cable modem in North Chalreston, SC and would have a cable outage at least once a week for a few hours and the speed would slow to a crawl after 5 PM. I had DSL in Norfolk, VA and was paying for 3 Mbps and was getting more like 600 Kbps, where cable modem in the same house was faster than advertised with very little down time. I currently have DSL in Suffolk, VA and though I am getting only half the advertised speed, it is priced well and keeps me from having to pay the cable plus the satellite companies. Just my two cents....

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DialgaChampion

Last reply A moment ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Two Hopper 3 DVRs Installation

Does someone still have the diagram showing how to connect two Hopper 3s again?

I currently have one H3 and one 4K Joey, set up through a 1000.2 eastern arc hybrid lnb and solo hub.

The plan is to replace the Joey with the second H3. Already purchased a duo hub and I have three coax cables coming in from outside, from back when I used to have the older 1000.4 dish and the hopper 2. I don't fully remember, but I think the other two coax cables are just tied up next to the dish outside; will have to check again.

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HipKat

Sep 5, 2022

You need a 42 switch.
Run the outputs to the inputs on the Duo Hub

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DialgaChampion

Sep 5, 2022

HipKat said:
You need a 42 switch.
Run the outputs to the inputs on the Duo Hub

Okay, so I made an updated diagram just to make sure I understand this right...

- 2 Coax connected from outside Dish LNB into 42 switch.
- 2 Coax from 42 switch into Duo Hub.
- 1 Coax from Duo Hub into 1st Hopper 3.
- 1 Coax from Duo Hub into Power Inserter.
- 1 Coax from Power Inserter into 2nd Hopper 3.
- Power Inserter plugged into wall electrical outlet.

Did I get that right? And also, I assume the power inserter is required?

HipKat

Sep 5, 2022

DialgaChampion said:
Okay, so I made an updated diagram just to make sure I understand this right...

- 2 Coax connected from outside Dish LNB into 42 switch.
- 2 Coax from 42 switch into Duo Hub.
- 1 Coax from Duo Hub into 1st Hopper 3.
- 1 Coax from Duo Hub into Power Inserter.
- 1 Coax from Power Inserter into 2nd Hopper 3.
- Power Inserter plugged into wall electrical outlet.

Did I get that right? And also, I assume the power inserter is required?

Twa Coaxes from the LNB if it's Eastern Arc (2 "Eyes") and three if it's Western Arc and yes, the power inserter, it's required

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LQQK

Sep 6, 2022

DialgaChampion said:
Does someone still have the diagram showing how to connect two Hopper 3s again?

I currently have one H3 and one 4K Joey, set up through a 1000.2 eastern arc hybrid lnb and solo hub.

The plan is to replace the Joey with the second H3. Already purchased a duo hub and I have three coax cables coming in from outside, from back when I used to have the older 1000.4 dish and the hopper 2. I don't fully remember, but I think the other two coax cables are just tied up next to the dish outside; will have to check again.

Are you going with 2 H3s for the PIP/Multi-View features or something else?

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DialgaChampion

Sep 6, 2022

LQQK said:
Are you going with 2 H3s for the PIP/Multi-View features or something else?

No, it's specifically to fix the problem with the 4K Joey's live feed intermittently freezing. I'll be watching a live program and then randomly out of nowhere, the picture and sound will just pixelate/freeze for 5-10 seconds, then go back to normal. Doesn't matter which channel it's on either. It's like what happens when the signal cuts out during heavy rain or a thunderstorm, but this will happen even on a perfectly clear day/night.

It doesn't happen with my H3 though, only with the Joey. I've replaced the solo hub and I've also replaced the Joey itself with another brand new 4K Joey, but it's still the same problem. And I know it's not the coax going from the hub into the Joey because I previously had another receiver connected in the same room before changing to the whole home dvr setup and that receiver worked fine.

So I'm basing this off process of elimination, which seems to indicate a problem with the 4K Joey device itself. Only thing I haven't tried is maybe getting a regular Joey 3, if that's still the latest model of Joey currently available, but otherwise the only other solution is getting a second Hopper 3. It'd be nice if the 42 and the Power Inserter weren't necessary and I could just use the Duo Hub though.

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SandFarmer

May 9, 2024

Now that my Owned H3 fried itself. What gear can I remove for just one H3? Already took down the 129 Wing Dish.

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Bobby

May 9, 2024

SandFarmer said:
Now that my Owned H3 fried itself. What gear can I remove for just one H3? Already took down the 129 Wing Dish.

You do know that DISH will replace your owned, fried, Hopper don't you. It's free....

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SandFarmer

May 16, 2024

Bobby said:
You do know that DISH will replace your owned, fried, Hopper don't you. It's free....

Yup. Been there done that many times over the past 29 years. Since not having it, I have found better and cheaper ways to get what little programming in need from it.

Just wondering how far down I can strip down all the gear on my chimney.

The 129 J-Arm grew an Outdoor Long Range AP. I already have several unused RJ lines that are going to be IPoE from the rack. Just wondering how much gear I'm going to be able to put up there.

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DialgaChampion

Today at 9:27 PM

HipKat said:
Twa Coaxes from the LNB if it's Eastern Arc (2 "Eyes") and three if it's Western Arc and yes, the power inserter, it's required

tjboston5676 said:
Yep just swap the lnb with a dpp lnb and connect the 42 switch.

Finally got around to trying to set everything up. Need some help because I've got an issue.

1st Hopper 3 works fine.

2nd Hopper 3 doesn't show any channels in my Top 200 package in the guide, even though it's set to All Subscribed. But it does see the 1st Hopper 3 and can access the recordings on it.

Here's my setup:

DPP EA 61.5/72 LNB on the dish. 2 Coaxes going from LNB into the DPH42 switch.
DPH42 "Receiver 1" port > Power Inserter "To Switch" port..... Power Inserter "To Receiver" port > Duo Hub "ODU 1" port.
DPH42 "Receiver 2" port > Duo Hub "ODU 2" port.
2 Coaxes from both Host ports on the Duo Hub into both Hopper 3s.

I've spent the last few hours troubleshooting, no success. I did the Test Installation on the Diagnostics screen. Red button. Held Power Button for 15 seconds.

Also tried several different configurations with the coax cables according to Google's AI suggestions. Tried connecting both a Solo Hub and a Duo Hub (I don't have 2 solo hubs at the moment), having each Hopper connected to each hub independently. Tried connecting Receiver 2 from the DPH42 directly into the 2nd Hopper 3. Tried having the Power Inserter connected both before and after the hub.

I even checked my account online. Both Hopper 3s are authorized and "Powered" on the account. Even tried "Wake Up Receivers". That second H3 still won't show my channels in the guide at all.

According to Google's AI, it thinks this is the problem:

- When you plug two Hopper 3 units into a single Duo Hub, the hub cannot allocate the correct satellite transponder frequencies to both boxes simultaneously.
- As a result, the first Hopper 3 hogs the satellite line, while the second Hopper 3 gets locked out of the satellite signal entirely—causing an empty guide and blocking live TV. The unlinked status on the whole-home screen occurs because the software recognizes the conflict and stops integration.

But none of its solutions have worked. Any ideas?

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n0qcu

55 minutes ago

Googles AI is wrong as according to what you wrote you have two completely separate satellite line from the switch

My be a dumb question but did you run the check switch option on th 2nd H3

Did you try swapping the H3 to see if the problem switches between the two

That's all I can think of at the moment

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DialgaChampion

A moment ago

n0qcu said:
Googles AI is wrong as according to what you wrote you have two completely separate satellite line from the switch

My be a dumb question but did you run the check switch option on th 2nd H3

Did you try swapping the H3 to see if the problem switches between the two

That's all I can think of at the moment

Check Status complete. No issues found.
Test Installation screen shows green checks for 61.5 and 72, all 16 tuners.
Options > TV Activity shows 1 of 16 tuners in use.

When I bring up the program guide, the dish scapes channel appears and displays fine. The guide also shows the bonusview channels, and the stream and ppv channels.

I tried swapping the 2nd H3's cables with the 1st H3 and having it as the only H3 connected. It still has the same issue, so it seems isolated to the second Hopper 3 itself.

There was another suggestion from Google, not sure if it applies:

If the TV Activity Screen shows that your tuners are "Available" and "1 of 16 in use," your satellite signal path is 100% active and perfectly working. Your hardware wiring bypass has officially succeeded—the second Hopper 3 is successfully talking to the DPH42 switch, receiving high-frequency satellite data, and its internal processors are healthy. Because the hardware is fully operational, the fact that your screen is still black and the guide is missing means your receiver is stuck in Account Quarantine (Authorization Hold). Because a dual Hopper 3 system requires a non-standard account setup (32 tuners instead of the typical 16-tuner cap), standard "Wake Up" hits sent from the customer app or website are getting rejected by the system. The box can look at the data stream (which is why tuners show as available), but it is legally blocked by the internal software from decoding the live video feeds. To flip the switch and activate the live video feed, a DISH billing agent must manually push a tier-3 service re-hit through their legacy terminal.

Any thoughts?

slow_poke_pete

A moment ago

DialgaChampion said:
No, it's specifically to fix the problem with the 4K Joey's live feed intermittently freezing. I'll be watching a live program and then randomly out of nowhere, the picture and sound will just pixelate/freeze for 5-10 seconds, then go back to normal. Doesn't matter which channel it's on either. It's like what happens when the signal cuts out during heavy rain or a thunderstorm, but this will happen even on a perfectly clear day/night.

It doesn't happen with my H3 though, only with the Joey. I've replaced the solo hub and I've also replaced the Joey itself with another brand new 4K Joey, but it's still the same problem. And I know it's not the coax going from the hub into the Joey because I previously had another receiver connected in the same room before changing to the whole home dvr setup and that receiver worked fine.

So I'm basing this off process of elimination, which seems to indicate a problem with the 4K Joey device itself. Only thing I haven't tried is maybe getting a regular Joey 3, if that's still the latest model of Joey currently available, but otherwise the only other solution is getting a second Hopper 3. It'd be nice if the 42 and the Power Inserter weren't necessary and I could just use the Duo Hub though.

Why not upgrade to the joey 4 with is an android box and dump the 4k joey

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

8 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Another Busted in the Panhandle BCSO video

While always entertaining....I hope you guys recognize that the child molesters they arrested in this video were STRICTLY due to tips from the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. I strongly suggest that you go to their website and support them. They are the ONLY entity that is trying to curb all the perverts out there. And yes...if you want to have sex or see someone have sex with a minor you ARE a pervert.

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mheisen

Today at 8:16 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Hopper 3 with Hopper plus internet connection problems

Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 8:06 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Today at 1:58 PM

Drift Away - Dobie Gray

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Throwing It All Away - Genesis

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All I Need is a Miracle - Mike + The Mechanics

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Sweet Miracle - Rush

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JSheridan

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 7:54 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.

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MikeD-C05

Sep 26, 2026

I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH and then if you can't see the western arc you go with streaming versions and then they could keep customers if they had good internet speeds. I mean Sling TV could be changed to Streaming DISH TV if they wanted since both companies are under Echostar. Then you would still be able to use your ota antenna with Air TV devices like I do with Air TV Anywhere with 4 ota tuners.

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Scott Greczkowski

Sep 26, 2026

MikeD-C05 said:
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH

I have the same wish.

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bnewt

Monday at 3:30 PM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I have the same wish.

Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite

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Scott Greczkowski

Monday at 4:56 PM

bnewt said:
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite

They keep the satellite service too. But have. Full streaming version of dish. As sling tv sucks eggs.

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telstar_1

Monday at 8:12 PM

Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 4:04 PM

telstar_1 said:
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink

He does not have the resources aka $$$ compared to Elon Musk as in reality, Elon can eat Charlie for lunch or even mop the floor with Charlie if he wanted to.

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 4:58 PM

ment to 20 yrs dam phone

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BradleyD

Yesterday at 11:57 PM

Dish should use both satellite and internet like they do now for all channels. Use either or or both.... like now but subscribers could choose something like internet only, or sat only, or both.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 1:01 AM

BradleyD said:
Dish should use both satellite and internet like they do now for all channels. Use either or or both.... like now but subscribers could choose something like internet only, or sat only, or both.

They have sling tv wich sucks ass it needs a major upgrade

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 7:54 PM

Scott Greczkowski said:
They keep the satellite service too. But have. Full streaming version of dish. As sling tv sucks eggs.

can you DVR every channel now or is still only certain ones you can DVR

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 7:28 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Well crap....Donnie Iris died today

RIP dude. Always liked his music. He was 83

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Rest in Peace…

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R.I.P. …

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Supporting Founder

Last reply Today at 7:26 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Yespage

Monday at 3:04 PM

You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?

Jimbo

Monday at 9:19 PM

Yespage said:
You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?

No, I was actually referring to outside of the Top 8, but should have been Top 12 ...

I guess I should have looked at the bracket from last year first ...

I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .

Ronnie-

Yesterday at 7:24 AM

Jimbo said:
I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .

I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.

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AZ.

Yesterday at 7:53 AM

Ronnie- said:
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.

Yep, wonder why we rank the top 25 in 2 poles still? Do the ranking change much if they are unranked or have many loses? They sure do, any given day never take your opponent as a cake walk.....

Jimbo

Yesterday at 8:20 AM

Ronnie- said:
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.

Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time ....however .
You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

They are trying to make this Basketball and its a far cry from the way that is played.

How long till they go to 32 teams ? Then they will say, well, the NFL is 32 teams, we can make more money that way .... except the NFL is 32 teams, that are a set number of teams and divisions, you don't have that in College ... oh but they will try.

They would have to choose what teams they would want in and thats it.
Hopefully that NEVER happens.

I can see the NCAA going away and the CFP taking that portion over and a Collective Bargaining agreement coming in the not to distant future.

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rvvaquero

Yesterday at 8:45 AM

The problem with rankings and playoffs is that they are designed to hype the game and make money. Period.

The only reason that BYU and Texas Tech were upsets is that they were hyped up in the standings in the first place. I love watching BYU and Bear Bachmeier. They are a fun and talented team, but not nearly so strong, fast, big, and skilled as a true top ten team. Does anyone truly believe they could compete with the likes of Georgia, Ohio State, Indiana, Alabama, etc.? Yet, they were ranked above those teams.

Each year, there are 10 to 12 teams who truly could compete for the championship if it depended on winning more than one game in a playoff. Including teams like James Madison, Tulane, BYU, etc. in a playoff has nothing to do with determining a national champion. It's just about money.

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Ronnie-

Today at 7:26 PM

Jimbo said:
Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time

Yes. As shown in a few posts now.

Jimbo said:
You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

.

But that wasn't what your stated argument was though.

I mean if you drag it out, no team even a favorite is gonna win every game 20 weeks in a row.

With the parity in college football now, who knows who can beat anyone at any given time?

This season and last have shown it might not be the ones we think that might win it all that will win it all.

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MartyDe

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ATSC 3 converter boxes

Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.

Pearl TV Issues Progress Report on Low-Cost 3.0 Converters in Advance of NAB Show New York

Group has secured lower pricing from key tech players to make less costly boxes available

www.tvtechnology.com

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navychop

Oct 20, 2026

DEATH TO NEXGEN!

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primestar31

Oct 21, 2026

navychop said:
DEATH TO NEXGEN!

It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.

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Mister B

Thursday at 7:43 AM

What bothers me is the total waste of broadcasting spectrum in this very crowded market. It has been almost three years now since KFOX converted their broadcast tower to ATSC 3.0 and moved all of their channels to other towers causing noticeable degradation of the picture quality.
I have a Sony TV with 3.0 capabilities but still use the 1.0 version of locals due to the fact that one or all of the 3.0 channels are often missing or unwatchable. In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.
The only thing that could motivate me to be interested in 3.0 would be if all of the minor networks (diginets) could be in at least 720P rather than blurry ultra-compressed 480i.
Three years is long enough to waste one of the few available RF frequencies in the area for this trial.
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.

navychop

Thursday at 4:31 PM

Mister B said:
In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.

They might notice the hand going into their pocket for their wallet.

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navychop

Thursday at 4:31 PM

Mister B said:
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.

QFT. Of course, my preference involves a curb and some kicking.

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 5:37 PM

primestar31 said:
It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.

WHAT ABOUT THE INTERNET PART OF IT. NO ONE WANTS A BOX CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET EITHER.