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hello, 9 and 3/4 years ago I installed all my directv equipment (I had to pay for everything, there was no such thing as free multiroom installation), which included sony dual lnb dish, 2 in 4 out powered multiswitch. The two cables run from the dish to the multiswitch with direct runs to 3 receivers, the tv with the tivo receiver has two cables connected for the additional tivo options. Since the install everything has worked perfectly. I had all sony equipment, of the 3 original receivers I have upgraded one receiver to a non hd tivo receiver. and another receiver is an HD receiver but it is connected to a regular TV.(gasp)

Anyway eventually I will get an HD TV and I will need to upgrade my dish. I just have some questions on what I will need to do to upgrade, especially regarding the wiring. It is my understanding that I would need a 5 LNB dish. I have seen one for sale and the description states that the dish has a built in 4-way multiswitch.

1. Basically how many cables will have to run from the dish to the inside of my house?

2. since the dish has a multiswitch does this mean that each cable from the dish will have to be a direct run to each receiver? if yes I cannot do this without re-wiring and I will not do that again. Logistically that is out of the question.

3. can I run the cables from the dish to a bigger multiswitch? if yes does the multiswitch need to be powered. my old multiswitch is powered, when I first did the install a passive multiswitch did not work well so if it is better to use a powered multiswitch that is no problem.

4. believe it or not I grounded the dish and cable when I did the install, the two cables run from the dish to a grounding block that have two long copper wires connected which run to a water pipe that runs into the concrete wall of the house. the two cables that are connected to the grounding block run into the house. anyway I live is S Fla where there is lots of lightening so, back then this was a concern. I have seen professional installs and no one seems to ground anything anymore, is this still a concern?

5. the two cables from the dish actually run as follows: dish-->grounding block-->inside the house to a paanamx dbs surge protector with modules designed for protecting Sat cables-->2 in 4 out powered multiswitch-->receivers. how would this configuration need to be changed requiring the least amount of re-wiring.

I am in no rush to get HD, I still feel the TVs are overpriced and I think that after next Feb, prices may drop plus I am waiting for a technology that addresses all the initial complaints about HD quality. ( I am also waiting for my old Mits TV to break):) I just want to know if you think that in the very near future will cables from the dish be consolidated, are there some improvements coming in the near future that will not require so many cables run into the house? I mean I can wait until next year if there are exciting improvements coming.

any information is appreciated.

Regards,
rainfade

PS-please do not suggest that I let Directv do the upgrade, I have never seen an install done better than mine, I know they are not going to use silicone filled connectors outside plus rubber boots to protect against rain. they will not do the little things that mean a lot, like connect the cables to the wall and not let them just hang there, dangling from the outside of the house.
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hello, 9 and 3/4 years ago I installed all my directv equipment (I had to pay for everything, there was no such thing as free multiroom installation), which included sony dual lnb dish, 2 in 4 out powered multiswitch. The two cables run from the dish to the multiswitch with direct runs to 3 receivers, the tv with the tivo receiver has two cables connected for the additional tivo options. Since the install everything has worked perfectly. I had all sony equipment, of the 3 original receivers I have upgraded one receiver to a non hd tivo receiver. and another receiver is an HD receiver but it is connected to a regular TV.(gasp)

Anyway eventually I will get an HD TV and I will need to upgrade my dish. I just have some questions on what I will need to do to upgrade, especially regarding the wiring. It is my understanding that I would need a 5 LNB dish. I have seen one for sale and the description states that the dish has a built in 4-way multiswitch.

1. Basically how many cables will have to run from the dish to the inside of my house? .

4 cables run from the dish/lnb to your distribution center.


2. since the dish has a multiswitch does this mean that each cable from the dish will have to be a direct run to each receiver? if yes I cannot do this without re-wiring and I will not do that again. Logistically that is out of the question.

No, there are many options available to you to circumvent this problem. You can inquire about the SWM-Slimline dish which runs only one cable into your house followed by a series of switches/splitters into one cable into each room. Another option, since the single SWM-slimline is hard to come by is to use the standard Slimline 5lnb (4 cables into your house) & connect it to a SWM8 Mulitswitch
DirecTV SWM 8 Multiswitch Frequently Asked Questions

3. can I run the cables from the dish to a bigger multiswitch? if yes does the multiswitch need to be powered. my old multiswitch is powered, when I first did the install a passive multiswitch did not work well so if it is better to use a powered multiswitch that is no problem.

The above powered SWM8 would replace your old switch & provide you with 8 tuner capacity for the newer SWM capable receivers as well as three ports for your older legacy receivers. It also provides for diplexing your OTA antenna into the single cable if you like to have OTA reception also.


4. believe it or not I grounded the dish and cable when I did the install, the two cables run from the dish to a grounding block that have two long copper wires connected which run to a water pipe that runs into the concrete wall of the house. the two cables that are connected to the grounding block run into the house. anyway I live is S Fla where there is lots of lightening so, back then this was a concern. I have seen professional installs and no one seems to ground anything anymore, is this still a concern?.

I sense the lack of concern too, but ground your new dish since you have all the cables for grounding already run.


5. the two cables from the dish actually run as follows: dish-->grounding block-->inside the house to a paanamx dbs surge protector with modules designed for protecting Sat cables-->2 in 4 out powered multiswitch-->receivers. how would this configuration need to be changed requiring the least amount of re-wiring.

My older AT9 sidecar had something similar in that it grounded all four cables into a block before proceeding into my attic. The new slimline (though mine didn't have this, offer a similar block along with grounding the dish itself.

I am in no rush to get HD, I still feel the TVs are overpriced and I think that after next Feb, prices may drop plus I am waiting for a technology that addresses all the initial complaints about HD quality. ( I am also waiting for my old Mits TV to break):) I just want to know if you think that in the very near future will cables from the dish be consolidated, are there some improvements coming in the near future that will not require so many cables run into the house? I mean I can wait until next year if there are exciting improvements coming.

All of the above units are new & what is available for new installs.

SWM Slimline Dish
5lnb slimline with SWM8 multiswitch (my favorite)
A new 3lnb Slimline for markets with need of only 99, 101 & 103
The trick in what you will be getting for free is how many new receivers you will be running & how many require 2-tuner setups (thus two cables). If you prefer to do it yourself, simply have them install the 5lnb dish & run the 4 cables to your central 'utility closet' & you can take over from there.


PS-please do not suggest that I let Directv do the upgrade, I have never seen an install done better than mine, I know they are not going to use silicone filled connectors outside plus rubber boots to protect against rain. they will not do the little things that mean a lot, like connect the cables to the wall and not let them just hang there, dangling from the outside of the house.

I don't think D will let you do this work by yourself anymore & the freebies they would giving you would more than make up for any of their on-site work. While some tech's don't like you hovering over them you as the customer have the right to supervise the install. This is mainly how I learned to do any tweaking modifications to my dish when they become misaligned or there are problems. I also am pleasantly surprised when a great tech comes out & sees that I have a very clean install. I make it a point to always negotiate some type of monetary imbursement in advance for the tech helping me doing it the correct way.

As far as the physical mounting of the new/heavier/wider dish my installer did give some leeway with leaving me various mounts to have a contractor make a custom chimney mount for the newer 2 inch mount. He even left a non penetrating roof mount so I could receive my programming in the interim. Once you find a good tech in your area (& throw some salary his/her way) they are more than happy to work with your concerns. When you find a good one, get his cell number to avoid the middleman in the future.
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Thank you for all the information.

I am not concerned about mounting the dish, I live in a two story townhouse made of concrete block. I used 4 3" blue tapcoms to install my old dish, after mounting I was literally able to hang from the post of the dish with no problem. The mounting bracket held me up. I think am heavier that 50 lbs.<g>

How could Directv prevent me from doing the install? Respectfully, as the consumer who is paying Directv $1400 a year, having been a customer for 10 years, I have paid them probably over 12 grand. I don't thing I should have to pay a tech extra for installing equipment the correct way, they should install it the correct way all the time, I mean, isn't that their job?

thanks again for all the ideas.
rainfade
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Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...
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would probably also work well for NHK on 101W and possibly for PBS on 99W. I used one for a while on 30W. Just keep in mind that because it's undersized for those satellites, it might work fine in clear weather but won't have much margin to account for signal degradation during rain/snow
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If you can find one, the Shaw / Star Choice 75e ellipticals are great for use on 97, 99, and 101W. They are really just rebranded ChannelMaster 75 cm reflectors and use linear LNBFs by default out of the box.

Everyone else's mileage may vary.
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I have read that some have converted this type dish but after giving it a good look, it's the lnb conversion that is the bottleneck. Does anyone have a picture of their attempt to configure the lnb? I watched a video on youtube from the save it for parts guy and he used duct tape! Guess it worked but I'm thinking something a bit more permanent!
Thanks to all for your interest and replies...
Titanium
Many of us have used a universal LNBF mount (or get creative with L brackets and plumbers tape - perforated metal strapping). Use a few inches of aluminum tube (or a piece of 1x2" lumber) to extend the support arm (replacing the plastic mount used by DirecTV and Dish) to place the LNBF throat opening at the correct distance from the reflector, the correct height and at the correct angle. Nothing magical... simply place the new linear LNBF in the center at the same distance, height and angle as the current combo.
www.amazon.com/Universal-Single-Bracket-Holder-FTA-US/dp/B074L85WK2
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To add: 101W Ku seems to be (one of if not the) strongest for me, and if I only had Ku I definitely want 101W for the music mux, it's robust FEC and strong signal help a lot. I've thought about using a used Dish/DirectTV dish at my Dads to supplement his OTA (mainly for my benefit when I visit :) )
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Give A Little Bit - Supertramp
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Little Wing - Jimi Hendrix
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With A Little Luck - Wings
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LITTLE Willy-Sweet
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Little Deuce Coupe - The Beach Boys
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
rvvaquero
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
navychop
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
🤣

Oh....you were serious
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Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.


View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/b0gPzA8KHEQ
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Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.
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Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.
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Wife likes it.
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I like Zyra from La Brea (one with the prosthetic).
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
long_time_Dish
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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