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Last reply Dec 20, 2008 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Credit Card Needed??

Since DN put the hammer down on the prepaid American express cards is there any other way to sign up customers that need a credit card that don't have one?

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pabeader

Oct 23, 2008

i would say that he is trying to find a way, within the system, to get his job done. There are people that shun credit cards. I should think there would be a path for them.

Woody-

Dec 18, 2008

pabeader said:
There are people that shun credit cards. I should think there would be a path for them.

This describes me, I have never had a credit card and am not planning on getting one. I would like to sign up for the promotions that dish has right now but I don't qualify because of this. Is there anyway for non credit card users to sign up. I do have a VISA debit card that I use everywhere when one is required but Dish doesnt seem to think its good enough.

BTW As far as I know I dont have a credit score(or at least a poor one since I dont use credit cards), if I need to borrow money I just go to talk to my banker. Seems to work for me since I borrow $100,000's of dollars for my business each year that way.

harshness

Dec 18, 2008

Woody- said:
Seems to work for me since I borrow $100,000's of dollars for my business each year that way.

DISH Network isn't interested in your business credit. They want to check your personal credit. The ubiquitous credit card is the device that they've chosen to gain access to your credit information. Prepaid offers are available but they don't do much in the way of promotions.

Call DISH and ask them what they suggest.

In case you were wondering DIRECTV is even more stringent about credit.

Mainstreet

Dec 18, 2008

It's a company policy. If we could get exceptions, I'd be submitting them everyday. We have a lot of customers who want to sign up but can't because they don't qualify. They don't qualify because the promotion requires a credit card. I personally agree that there is a better way to determine a whether a customer is going to be a good customer, but this just happens to be how they are doing it now.

It weeds out a lot of the customers who have been causing them negative subscriber acquisition numbers due to disconnects, but it unfortunately also excludes a few would-be good customers from signing up as well. Customers who don't have a credit card also have one less source to tap into if they run up PPV or other expensive programming and don't have the money to pay the bill.

Really, at this point, if you can qualify for a no-fee credit card, get one. Use it to sign up for DISH, then cancel it, or never use it. If you keep it active and only put maybe a tank of gas on it then pay it off, in time it will actually help your credit score. It would be a paid off account with a history. Then when anything else like this comes up in the future, you're set. If you can't qualify for a credit card, then DISH would probably be right in not approving the application for DHA. Unfortunately, this is getting to be a credit score driven world. Ask anyone who has recently moved. Every new utility and service requires a good credit score to get new service without paying a large sum up front.

iceturkee

Dec 18, 2008

harshness said:
DISH Network isn't interested in your business credit. They want to check your personal credit. The ubiquitous credit card is the device that they've chosen to gain access to your credit information. Prepaid offers are available but they don't do much in the way of promotions.

Call DISH and ask them what they suggest.

In case you were wondering DIRECTV is even more stringent about credit.

that's pretty funny considering i've never had problems getting directv service with my bad credit but the first time i wanted to sign up for dish, they turned me down!!

damjr

Dec 18, 2008

Mainstreet said:
It's a company policy. If we could get exceptions, I'd be submitting them everyday. We have a lot of customers who want to sign up but can't because they don't qualify. They don't qualify because the promotion requires a credit card. I personally agree that there is a better way to determine a whether a customer is going to be a good customer, but this just happens to be how they are doing it now.

It weeds out a lot of the customers who have been causing them negative subscriber acquisition numbers due to disconnects, but it unfortunately also excludes a few would-be good customers from signing up as well. Customers who don't have a credit card also have one less source to tap into if they run up PPV or other expensive programming and don't have the money to pay the bill.

Really, at this point, if you can qualify for a no-fee credit card, get one. Use it to sign up for DISH, then cancel it, or never use it. If you keep it active and only put maybe a tank of gas on it then pay it off, in time it will actually help your credit score. It would be a paid off account with a history. Then when anything else like this comes up in the future, you're set. If you can't qualify for a credit card, then DISH would probably be right in not approving the application for DHA. Unfortunately, this is getting to be a credit score driven world. Ask anyone who has recently moved. Every new utility and service requires a good credit score to get new service without paying a large sum up front.

Here's the main problem with the new requirement by Dish. A customer may qualify but only if they have a credit card. Some qualify and can use debit cards.

Back to the customer who needs a credit card. Some of these customers are what Dish considers "Premium" customers but because they are no longer using credit cards Dish won't accept them.
Here's the other problem I have with the no debit cards. A customer is required to use a credit card for qualification. The customer can now not use that card again but use their debit card for monthly payments.
Dish claims that a common factor with their high churn rate is the debit card issue. But a customer can use a debit card for their monthly payments but not to qualify?
Does this make sense?

Woody-

Dec 18, 2008

Mainstreet said:
It's a company policy. If we could get exceptions, I'd be submitting them everyday. We have a lot of customers who want to sign up but can't because they don't qualify. They don't qualify because the promotion requires a credit card. I personally agree that there is a better way to determine a whether a customer is going to be a good customer, but this just happens to be how they are doing it now.

It weeds out a lot of the customers who have been causing them negative subscriber acquisition numbers due to disconnects, but it unfortunately also excludes a few would-be good customers from signing up as well. Customers who don't have a credit card also have one less source to tap into if they run up PPV or other expensive programming and don't have the money to pay the bill.

Really, at this point, if you can qualify for a no-fee credit card, get one. Use it to sign up for DISH, then cancel it, or never use it. If you keep it active and only put maybe a tank of gas on it then pay it off, in time it will actually help your credit score. It would be a paid off account with a history. Then when anything else like this comes up in the future, you're set. If you can't qualify for a credit card, then DISH would probably be right in not approving the application for DHA. Unfortunately, this is getting to be a credit score driven world. Ask anyone who has recently moved. Every new utility and service requires a good credit score to get new service without paying a large sum up front.

Let me get this straight, one of your suggestions is that I get a credit card just to sign up for dish and then cancel it. How is that better for dish then If I use a debit card that I have had for years and will probably have for the foreseeable future.

Mainstreet

Dec 19, 2008

How is that better for dish then If I use a debit card

It's not. It just gets you past a silly rule that requires a credit card to qualify for up to a $1500 equipment/install/programming subsidy. I don't make the rules, I just have to try to find a way to live within them.

I personally think it's the worst decision they have made in years. We are having a hard enough time getting people to sign up right now with a 24 month contract, without factoring in the requirement for a credit card. We can't change their reasoning, but we can find ways to make it work for you. If you want a way to get DISH without purchasing your equipment, I'm just giving you options. Just complaining up the chain isn't going to do it for you. You need a credit card, unless you can substantially increase your credit score to one they consider "superior".Then you could use your check card.

costanzas_wallet

Dec 19, 2008

The telcom I work for has increased their credit guidelines as well.. these are some tough times for sure. And you would be absolutely SHOCKED to see how many people sign up for services, have all the equipment installed by a professional technician, and NEVER pay a single dime... I'm talking, within four months there is multiple hundreds to thousands of dollars outstanding on these customers who would have been weeded out if there was a stricter installation/credit guideline policy in place. I can absolutely see where Dish is coming from.

Its really quite sad how many people there are who screw the telecom industry as hard and as often as possible.. people sign up and within four months are disconnected due to non-payment.... then they have their cousin or uncle call the next month and do the same things over again.

I'm sure that part of the reason for the high cost of cable is due to this.

harshness

Dec 20, 2008

iceturkee said:
that's pretty funny considering i've never had problems getting directv service with my bad credit but the first time i wanted to sign up for dish, they turned me down!!

Consider yourself lucky you got in when you did because DIRECTV has become very picky of late and they've been spending many column inches talking about their "high quality" customers.

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Song Name Game Part 3!

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

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osu1991

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Last reply Today at 2:44 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

USA Healthcare Costs are Ridiculous

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.

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vazhog

Yesterday at 4:05 PM

that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -

Foxbat

Today at 12:33 PM

Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."

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Today at 1:19 PM

Foxbat said:
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit?

Because health care shouldn't be a political issue?

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 2:19 PM

vazhog said:
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -

what about the welfare kings and queens

osu1991

Today at 2:41 PM

Foxbat said:
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."

I didn't start it as a political statement and have no interest in the political BS of this country. Everyone wants to make everything political nowadays. This was just my rant over the outrageous increase in my premiums and how unaffordable healthcare is becoming to the average person here.

admin can close or delete it if they don't want here.

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Bobby

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Foxbat said:
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."

There are no dues to be paid to be in the Pit. You just have to use the password which is clearly shown when you try to log in to it.

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telebiker

Last reply Today at 1:56 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Hopper and Dish Hopper Plus No Alexa in settings

I have Dish Hopper and Hopper Plus and also have Alexa Echo. I link the Alex skill to Dish and it asks me to enter the pairing code shown on the TV. I go into Dish Settings and there is no Alexa shown. Not sure what to do.

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Harryhaggle

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Understood. But here's the rub - Google Assistant setup is ALSO missing from the Hopper Plus setup. I'm a paraplegic.and need to use voice controls as much as possible but I can't press a button on the remote to activate Google Assistant. I prefer ALEXA (or ALEXA+) but I have one older google device and will go that route IF they make it available. BTW calling Dish Customer Service is no help- they just say they have no info on if/when there will be an update.

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Ungood.

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What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?

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Oct 18, 2026

Tell Alexa verbally what to do.

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snissen

Today at 1:56 PM

reubenray said:
What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?

I stand up from my chair with my glass in one hand and my plate in the other, when a story I really want to hear comes on the TV. So I say, "Alexa, pause DISH", and it waits for me to return from the kitchen, at which time I say, "Alexa, resume DISH".

Or maybe, when I return with a full glass in one hand and a new plate in the other, I realize I forgot to pause to hear this good story from its start. So I say, "Alexa, skip DISH backwards 3 minutes", and I still get to catch the whole story.

I use this every day. Or until I acquire a third hand.

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Last reply Today at 1:05 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Claude's site is still up and running. New link required

I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

DishRetailer

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I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 5:34 PM

If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.

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Scott Greczkowski

Yesterday at 8:29 PM

dishstaller said:
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

DishRetailer

America's Oldest Satellite Forum!

satelliteretailer.com

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.

Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!

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Scott Greczkowski

Yesterday at 8:31 PM

Went and looked, not too bad...

Just let people know the address is satelliteretailer.com as DishRetailer.COM is not working.

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(((Garyd)))

Today at 1:05 PM

dishstaller said:
If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.

Your old link triggered my Bitdefender today.

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Oct 7, 2026

EchoStar fixes some of its mess, but there's much more to mop up

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News about the tower's dispute-

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Today at 9:50 AM

Bruce said:
News about the tower's dispute-

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So does this mean the churches and businesses that Dish owes back payments to are going to get paid now?

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They note that the Dish Wireless radios at issue support the 2GHz and 800MHz spectrum SpaceX is acquiring from EchoStar and Grain.

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Last reply Today at 12:40 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

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harshness

Oct 18, 2026

I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

harshness

Oct 20, 2026

harshness said:
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Foxbat

Oct 20, 2026

harshness said:
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Bobby

Oct 21, 2026

Regular$5.839
Premium$6.299
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at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

Oct 21, 2026

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?

Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.

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Regular$5.699
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Today at 11:26 AM

Was just out running errands and saw $3.69 at most places

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Today at 12:40 PM

$4.04 most places, Diesel $5.85...

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