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Last reply Nov 10, 2008 · posted in The Dish Network Uplink Center (archive)

Uplink Activity Report - 11/6/2008 3:39pm - 47 changes

SatelliteGuys.US DishNetwork Uplink Activity Report - 11/6/2008 3:39pm - 47 changes

Uplink Comparison Range: 11/06/2008 03:02P - 11/06/2008 03:39P

Channel Additions:
712 - RTR [MPEG2 SD] added to Anik F3 118.7W TP 24 ConUS beam (NA)
848 - CBBIS [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar11 110W TP 19 ConUS beam (NA)
5504 - TLC [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 46(AK) (NA)
5508 - TRV [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 46(AK) (NA)
5509 - TWC [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 46(AK) (NA)
5513 - TOON [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 46(AK) (NA)
5514 - APL [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 46(AK) (NA)
5517 - VS. [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 46(AK) (NA)
5518 - NTGEO [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 27 Spotbeam 46(AK) (NA)
5519 - ESNWS [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 27 Spotbeam 46(AK) (NA)
8429(60) - PBS [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar7 119W TP 08 ConUS beam (NA)
9800 - SPORT [MPEG4 SD] added to Echostar6 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam (A) (H)
9801 - SPORT [MPEG4 SD] added to Echostar6 72.7W TP 29 ConUS beam (A) (H)
36701 - MTDTA [EPG] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 16 ConUS beam (A)
36701 - MTDTA [EPG] added to EchoStar5 129W TP 13 ConUS beam (A)

Channel Removals:
5890 - OBAMA (NA) removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 19 ConUS beam
6160 - SUNTV (A) (H) removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 27 ConUS beam
9466 - NBAHD (A) removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 13 ConUS beam
9466 - NBAHD (A) removed from Echostar6 72.7W TP 17 ConUS beam
9639 - AMS (A) removed from EchoStar9 121W TP 02 ConUS beam

Channel Moves:
8125 - KGNS2 [MPEG2 SD] moved from EchoStar10 110W TP 27 Spotbeam 17 to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 17 (A) (H)(Laredo, TX)
8704 - WXAX [MPEG2 SD] moved from EchoStar10 110W TP 27 Spotbeam 01(FL) to EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 01(FL) (A) (H)(Clearwater, FL)

Channel Package Flag Changes:
577 - PFC [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 20 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
577 - PFC [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar1 148W TP 03 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
577 - PFC [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 10 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
581 - PHNIX [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar1 148W TP 01 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
582 - CCTV4 [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar1 148W TP 25 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
589 - ANTGO [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 20 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
589 - ANTGO [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar1 148W TP 27 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
589 - ANTGO [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
623 - ZGUJ [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 22 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
623 - ZGUJ [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar1 148W TP 27 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
663 - MUSIK [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 28 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
663 - MUSIK [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar1 148W TP 29 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
663 - MUSIK [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 31 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
679 - PHNIN [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 25 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
680 - PHNIX [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 19 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
681 - CCTV4 [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 19 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
697 - CCENT [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 06 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
708 - HUNAN [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 06 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
717 - GMAP [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 20 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
720 - GMAL [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 20 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
722 - DZBB [MPEG AUDIO] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 20 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
723 - DWLS [MPEG AUDIO] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 20 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
796 - K TV [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 29 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
8128(16) - KGNS3 [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 17 changed to Available (H)(Laredo, TX)
8959(14) - KUDF [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar7 119W TP 05 Arizona beam changed to Available (H)

Channels in the system: 5716
(A) = Available to subscribers
(NA) = Not Available
(H) = Hidden from non-subscribers

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Scott Greczkowski

Nov 7, 2008

As I posted it earlier in the main forum, no new HD today. I got word earlier from someone close to the top.

Wish I had more to tell folks.

NotMe546

Nov 7, 2008

Scott Greczkowski said:
As I posted it earlier in the main forum, no new HD today. I got word earlier from someone close to the top.

Wish I had more to tell folks.

Does anyone at dish have a clue?

kstuart

Nov 7, 2008

NotMe546 said:
Does anyone at dish have a clue?

You guys seem to think that Dish can add every channel in the world instantly.

And that if they don't add channels, it is because they want to make their customers suffer.

The likely reasons are:

- They need a few more days to get EchoStar 8 up to full speed, and/or

- One of the channel suppliers still hasn't finished their feed to Dish Network, and/or

- NBA League Pass negotiations (which might affect how many HD channels can be added during the NBA season), and/or

- Negotiations still might not be totally finished over one or more channels that they hoped to be adding.

waltinvt

Nov 7, 2008

kstuart said:
You guys seem to think that Dish can add every channel in the world instantly.

And that if they don't add channels, it is because they want to make their customers suffer.

The likely reasons are:

- They need a few more days to get EchoStar 8 up to full speed, and/or

- One of the channel suppliers still hasn't finished their feed to Dish Network, and/or

- NBA League Pass negotiations (which might affect how many HD channels can be added during the NBA season), and/or

- Negotiations still might not be totally finished over one or more channels that they hoped to be adding.

Maybe a few do but most of us are smart enough to realize that Dish doesn't do or not do just to make customers suffer. Neither do they do or not do just to make customers happy. They do or not do to make Charlie & the shareholders happy - period.

Now if within those parameters they could just loose the BS and gain some honest rapport with customers, it might alleviate some customer frustration and even give Dish some credibility.

As it is now (and has been for quite a while), it's hard to trust anything they say. Seems we're always going back to verify exactly what was said at some chat or tradeshow and finding Charlie parsed his words such as to give a good impression but didn't make any real commitment. When you do this often enough, you get the exact same customer attitude as we're seeing.........again.

And of course they manipulate what they feed Scott too which doesn't help.

kstuart

Nov 7, 2008

waltinvt said:
Now if within those parameters they could just loose the BS and gain some honest rapport with customers, it might alleviate some customer frustration and even give Dish some credibility.

There is no customer frustration.

There is frustration amongst a dozen or so guys who constantly press the F5 button on this Forum on Wednesday afternoon.

When you bought your HDTV, there were still millions of Dish customers who had not even heard of HDTV.

My in-laws recently bought an HDTV (they had not heard of HD when I bought mine), and when I next visit there, I am pretty sure that they will have been watching stretched SD channels all this time, thinking they are HD.

Someone in the regular Dish Network Forum here mentioned another factor, that Dish and DirecTV and cable companies are in negotiations with Fox and CBS over renewal of rights to local channels. Those are the same two companies that own most of the HD channels not currently on Dish Network.

Dish actually provides far more "honest rapport" with customers than most companies. Where is the "Charlie Chat" on DirecTV? On Comcast ? on Sony ? Microsoft ?

During the last chat, they were asked about the Viacom HD channels, and the reply was "we are in negotiations and hope to add them by the end of the year".

"More rapport" would have to be technical details, which would not mean much to customers and would be frowned upon by the negotiators, i.e. "we offered them 15 cents per channel for 2 years, and they countered with 19 cents per channel for 3 years, and ... "

Channels are only not available when there is a technical problem or a contract problem. 12 million customers don't want day-to-day updates.

waltinvt

Nov 10, 2008

kstuart said:
There is no customer frustration.

There is frustration amongst a dozen or so guys who constantly press the F5 button on this Forum on Wednesday afternoon.

While I concede everyone may not be frustrated, I believe it's a bit more than 12.

kstuart said:
When you bought your HDTV, there were still millions of Dish customers who had not even heard of HDTV.

Depends which one. My first in 2004 - yes, probably but my last one (last July), I doubt it. Unless you don't do tv at all or your antenna livers under a rock somewhere, everyone's at least heard about HDTV, if even only in conjunction with the impending digital transition.

kstuart said:
My in-laws recently bought an HDTV (they had not heard of HD when I bought mine), and when I next visit there, I am pretty sure that they will have been watching stretched SD channels all this time, thinking they are HD.

I DO hear ya there

kstuart said:
Dish actually provides far more "honest rapport" with customers than most companies. Where is the "Charlie Chat" on DirecTV? On Comcast ? on Sony ? Microsoft ?

I didn't say they didn't talk to us - it's what they say and how they say it. Instead of the usual smoke & mirrors of "we expect "up to X" channels by year's end" or "we plan to offer that soon" and then using HDPPV "fillers" to "up" the channel count, they could be a whole lot more realistic about their plans without getting into what you call "technical details"

kstuart said:
"More rapport" would have to be technical details, which would not mean much to customers and would be frowned upon by the negotiators, i.e. "we offered them 15 cents per channel for 2 years, and they countered with 19 cents per channel for 3 years, and ... "

No, more rapport would be improving the company-customer relationship by increasing their credibility, which happens when their projections and excuses are more realistic and honest.

wassupTC

Nov 10, 2008

waltinvt said:
No, more rapport would be improving the company-customer relationship by increasing their credibility, which happens when their projections and excuses are more realistic and honest.

Well said!

Bobby H

Nov 10, 2008

Credibility (or lack thereof) is the key factor in why a lot of E* customers are not too happy right now.

People in my local DMA who have upgraded to an HD package have been expecting to see the HD versions of those local channels made available. Instead, every target date has been missed. And in the last addition of HD local channels, our DMA (which was one of 7 markets to have HD locals added) was the only one out of the group to not see anything added at all. Many of the others got only 1 channel added. Meanwhile DirecTV is adding HD local markets at an impressive pace.

DirecTV may not have a Charlie Chat or anything like that. But I also don't see them promising a lot of things they cannot deliver either. I think E* would be better served if their executives just kept their mouths shut about what will or won't be added and only make announcements when the additions actually happen.

Bill Millar

Nov 10, 2008

Bobby H,
Wichita Falls Texas is supposed to be up and running November 19, we shall see this time, but you will have to have a differnt dish.

Bobby H

Nov 10, 2008

Oh, I don't mind adding a wing dish for 61.5°.

Still, I am militantly taking the "I'll believe it when I see it" attitude when it comes to Dish doing anything with the Wichita Falls, TX - Lawton, OK market. They've been promising and proposing target dates for half a year and missing all of them. It won't be anything different if they blow it on November 19 either.

I won't expect them to get it done until they already have got it done. For now, they're the Keystone Cops until they actually accomplish something substantial. Given with what happened with the last HD LiL's "add", I wouldn't be too surprised to see E* only light up 1 single channel in this market rather than doing a legitimate add where all four major network stations are added in HD. If they light up only one channel, I won't bother adding another wing dish and extending my contract.

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 7:35 AM · posted in TV Shows

Stargate SG-1 Discussion

Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed

Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner

The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld

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reubenray

Yesterday at 1:30 PM

I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?

osu1991

Yesterday at 2:00 PM

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long_time_Dish

Yesterday at 3:47 PM

reubenray said:
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?

Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.

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reubenray

Yesterday at 3:54 PM

long_time_Dish said:
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.

Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.

long_time_Dish

Yesterday at 8:36 PM

reubenray said:
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.

If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.

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reubenray

Today at 7:35 AM

long_time_Dish said:
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.

Those are the episodes I am looking for. They are referred to a lot in the episodes I just recently watched.

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TFLEV

Today at 7:22 AM · posted in TFLEV

2027 BMW iX5 Walkaround & Review // They Have To Get This One Right!

Time for another AWESOME video from TFL Electric Vehicles!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ca9w7HnuXg

Direct YouTube Link - 2027 BMW iX5 Walkaround & Review // They Have To Get This One Right!

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TVHabit

Last reply Today at 6:42 AM · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion

Hybrid Dish setup

Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...

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Brct203

Oct 13, 2026

would probably also work well for NHK on 101W and possibly for PBS on 99W. I used one for a while on 30W. Just keep in mind that because it's undersized for those satellites, it might work fine in clear weather but won't have much margin to account for signal degradation during rain/snow

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one_db_compression

Oct 13, 2026

If you can find one, the Shaw / Star Choice 75e ellipticals are great for use on 97, 99, and 101W. They are really just rebranded ChannelMaster 75 cm reflectors and use linear LNBFs by default out of the box.

Everyone else's mileage may vary.

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TVHabit

Sunday at 10:12 AM

I have read that some have converted this type dish but after giving it a good look, it's the lnb conversion that is the bottleneck. Does anyone have a picture of their attempt to configure the lnb? I watched a video on youtube from the save it for parts guy and he used duct tape! Guess it worked but I'm thinking something a bit more permanent!
Thanks to all for your interest and replies...

Titanium

Sunday at 3:38 PM

Many of us have used a universal LNBF mount (or get creative with L brackets and plumbers tape - perforated metal strapping). Use a few inches of aluminum tube (or a piece of 1x2" lumber) to extend the support arm (replacing the plastic mount used by DirecTV and Dish) to place the LNBF throat opening at the correct distance from the reflector, the correct height and at the correct angle. Nothing magical... simply place the new linear LNBF in the center at the same distance, height and angle as the current combo.
www.amazon.com/Universal-Single-Bracket-Holder-FTA-US/dp/B074L85WK2

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k4otl

Today at 6:42 AM

To add: 101W Ku seems to be (one of if not the) strongest for me, and if I only had Ku I definitely want 101W for the music mux, it's robust FEC and strong signal help a lot. I've thought about using a used Dish/DirectTV dish at my Dads to supplement his OTA (mainly for my benefit when I visit

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 5:59 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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long_time_Dish

Yesterday at 8:29 PM

Give A Little Bit - Supertramp

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:11 PM

Little Wing - Jimi Hendrix

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long_time_Dish

Today at 12:54 AM

With A Little Luck - Wings

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hwkn

Today at 2:44 AM

LITTLE Willy-Sweet

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ClarkGable

Today at 5:59 AM

Little Deuce Coupe - The Beach Boys

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meStevo

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Yesterday at 11:25 PM · posted in The Sports Section

NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.

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meStevo

Yesterday at 11:40 AM

Hurts done for the season now

View: https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2112185275862417814

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 6:19 PM

I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.

www.colts.com

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rvvaquero

Yesterday at 9:00 PM

Foxbat said:
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.

www.colts.com

Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.

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Mike0616

Yesterday at 9:35 PM

Foxbat said:
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.

www.colts.com

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 11:25 PM

Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…

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Peter Parker

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Yesterday at 10:34 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.

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naptime

Sunday at 1:05 AM

I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

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jsmit86

Yesterday at 9:57 AM

naptime said:
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

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long_time_Dish

Yesterday at 3:57 PM

jsmit86 said:
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 4:07 PM

jsmit86 said:
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.

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navychop

Yesterday at 5:53 PM

Almighty1 said:
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:34 PM

Almighty1 said:
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

Oh....you were serious

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iJustine

Yesterday at 10:22 PM · posted in iJustine

This is iPhone Duo!

Time for another AWESOME video from iJustine!

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/P4_TzYKwcNY

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The official iJustine Website's Website
Buy her book!

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Yesterday at 10:22 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Generative AI: Revolutionizing Game NPC Dialogue & Behavior? #shorts

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-O2iLThF4z8

Direct YouTube Link - Generative AI: Revolutionizing Game NPC Dialogue & Behavior? #shorts
TWIT's Website
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teachsac

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Yesterday at 10:14 PM · posted in TV Shows

S.W.A.T. Exiles (Starz)

Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.

View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/b0gPzA8KHEQ

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klang

Aug 1, 2026

Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.

dfergie

Sep 2, 2026

View: https://youtu.be/wRbxI9muoIw?is=uM9d0DhDKRao_kA3

teachsac

Yesterday at 8:19 AM

Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.

Scott Greczkowski

Yesterday at 8:55 AM

Wife likes it.

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teachsac

Yesterday at 10:14 PM

I like Zyra from La Brea (one with the prosthetic).

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TvMind

Last reply Yesterday at 9:22 PM · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion

SES 1 101° W Horizontal "Issues" a.k.a "I want my M(e)TV"

Howdy folks long time no write.

Issue(s): Horizontal transponders (esp. Weigel mux) breakup/mosaic/sputtering audio, JTV less so (but received perfectly up until a month or so ago.
Vertical is fine (Daystar). Up until recently couldn't even get any signal on Weigel Mux but JTV was perfect.

What I did to improve things: A slight westward move improved reception but only slightly (approx 72 on the micro HD, sorry no dB to post). I removed the 3-way C-Band splitter and used a 2-way to get a 1-2 db signal gain ( the power port goes to the Startrak - the micro HD doesn't have enough juice ! (1st clue) even after swapping the switching power supply it came with with a heftier linear 12 V supply (less RFI too !).
I have had issues with the uHD before signal breaking up that a reboot would clear up (clue #2 = dying tuner?) - FYI, I reinforced the IF input and removed all flux from the pcb completely with a Flux Removal Pen (MG Chemicals Cat No. 4140-P) which definitely makes a huge difference.

I went outside and pushed and pulled reflector slightly and no improvement. Pole (actually tower in yard - the neighbours love me..NOT) is plumb, checked with carpenters level. Dish was last peaked in 2017 or so, after overhauling 24" Von Weise, new Acme, fresh grease, etc. Focal length, f/d ratio etc meticulously adjusted. One panel has a tear so planning to repair that this weekend when my cousin comes over ( to help me out (old guy here) forecast calls for sunshine.

What has changed: My utility company has installed new high tension line poles (one smack dab in the middle of 101°W target! But they put it in last year and reception (of JTV (HOR) at least) was fine, BUT when they came out to transfer the wires over this year from the old (sawed in half) pole that's about when the troubles started (coincidence?), but again Daystar (VER) was fine. I always had this pole in the light of sight of 101° before with no issues. (fyi my zenith sat 74° is unobstucted, but can't test)

In the meantime Weigel mux is trying to break in MOSTLY in LATE at night (less cell usage?) (audio not video except for a frame here or there) so don't know what has changed with this mux which suddenly "woke up". I have never had to fuss with dish moves on this satellite ( the slightest move +/- motor clicks loses lock, wheres normally on C-band I can go significantly wider east or west and still have a strong signal ( have these gone "spot beam" or narrower somehow and what is the slight difference in Az listed on Lyngsat to 100.9° affect things ( isn't that the declination i.e. requiring a tweak of declination?).

Long story short (too late, ha), if I had another DVB-S2 box to try and / or a newer more stable PLL lnb ( I have been meaning to upgrade many a time but never got arround to it) I could determine if it's my antiquated receiving equipment, or my dish/feed alignment ( doubtful as it tracks everything from 55 °W to 133 ° W nicely.) or the dreaded 5G! (BUT only on HOR and not VER?).
I read another post where the OP (with his smaller 7.5 footer) played around with the illumination to peak desired transponder and reduce qrm on interfering/ stronger xpndrs (even on 103° W). So will play with that too - and cut away the RG-6 a and pull up a fresh section with new PPC and coax Seal. Open the throat cap see if any cobwebs are there and check servo operation (also changed in last maintence 10 years ago).

Finally, this will probably be the last chance I get to play with the BUD from the looks of it (providers leaving, auctioning off rest of spectrum imminent above 4.0 Ghz, and to keep the peace with neighbours so it would be nice to have that mux back for the long, cold and dark winters to comfort this old man before I call it quits and buy a VHF/UHF/FM Yagi and get MeTV, H&I from my Vermont local stations (checked at a friends today and they come in nicely - except ABC) .
Only one guy in town (Montreal) I may be able to get a receiver or PLL lnb from to try (RPS Sat) so hopefully with elimnate that as a possible culprit. Be nice to pick up a cheap or used PLL lnb to try w/o 5G BPF (money is tight )

Like others I couldn't care less about "tv" (well maybe just a liitle or a lot) it's the challenge that excites me , I can get MeTV other ways OTA (no pirate crap).

So what do you guys (and gals) think ?. p.s. I don't have a spectrum analyzer and there are def/ cell towers nearby (half a Km or so away).
Oh and time permitting will hammer out dings too and wire damaged mesh on one section for an extra dB or two. Hesitate to touch Declination, Elevation and pole mount but will play around with those a little too... Why is this mux for finicky suddenly ?(8psk, 5/6 fec, beamwidthetc.. man wish they went back to VER I think everthing would be fine! For the engineers out here does 5G QRM affect one poliarization (HOR) more than another (VER)? I understand the strong interference swamps out the input mixer/local oscilator in the hapless old C-band lnb (I think it at time affect KU too esp. LPB on 101°W KU - incidentally thos were weak or "gone' but are back almost at the time MeTV improved..hmm Terrestrial interference?

Any thoughts or suggestions ( cheap or free solutions please) greatly appreciated. Cheers.

p.p.s. Micro HD can't display Decades and Toons but records them fine so I can watch on another box/media player (Ali chip set issue). Another reason to upgrade.

Anybody interested in a nice C/KU system free ? (for next Spring/Summer 2027)

[Sami 10' mesh, Corotor II+, Eagle Aspen (very old) C-band lnb, Norsat Ku lnb, Channel Master C/Ku (H/V) switch, Startrak 400 Analog receiver w/ motor control, Geosat uHD DVD-S2, CW600S for Mpeg-2]

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cyberham

Sep 30, 2026

With the microHD connected this afternoon and tuned to the Weigel mux, I can receive the mux well.

My conclusion is that the sensitivity of the receivers in descending order of sensitivity is as follows:

V9 Prime (best)
microHD
Edision osmio4k+

Either the V9 or the microHD could be used to watch Weigel but the Edision really could not with my given dish situation, at least during the daytime. At night, the signal is stronger here and then maybe the Edision could be used.

Titanium

Oct 1, 2026

What is the SNR readings for these transponders? Is the signal breaking up due to low SNR or interference?

Did you inspect the feedhorn throat and wave guide for wasp nest or other blockage? Good SNR with frequent drops in decoding ( loss of SQ readings) could indicate interference from 5G.

TvMind

Oct 13, 2026

Appreciate you checking. I should be picking these up with the tenner so still not done tuning up the bud - fell off ladder last week and hit my head!

Started over from scratch, N/S alignment, El/Decl extreme West sat, played with feed f/d checking everything and getting nice signals but still 101 west is PIA. New lnb was defective and returned it. My old one is fine but would have liked to A/B with a better lnb.

Thought it was the servo there because I was out and set everything up by the dish and flipping to HOR made a strange noise -BUT ONLY on 101 W ! All other sats skew is fine..hmm ( I have the skew almost perfect, use "Arrow" template on Zenith Sat (well nothing on 74 W to check with but Nimiq 5 at 72.6 W is closest and luckily picking up R- Pol channel from Canada to test with. Anyway picking up a new servo to try (the obvious polarity culprit).

Q. Back in the day PAS9 (74 W) was used but now I have to use closest zenith sat (Nimiq 5). I can't perfectly peak on that one which is 1 degree off (N/S alignment error). I used my trusty Brunton compass and even true noon shadow off pole to hit south.

I did have to peak extreme west by rotating mount ever so slighty so tracking extreme pretty good, but top and middle can use an elevation tweak (esp. Ku) to bring them back to where they were. No fun as the weather has been miserable and still dizzy from fall.

Oh and the Freesat V8 is crap (the tuner pixelates when the uHD is solid!) but love that SCART connector for S-Video out ! (I record to my Pio DVR and burn to DVD classic tv shows).

Stay tuned

cyberham said:
With the microHD connected this afternoon and tuned to the Weigel mux, I can receive the mux well.

TvMind

Oct 13, 2026

Titanium said:
Did you inspect the feedhorn throat and wave guide for wasp nest or other blockage? Good SNR with frequent drops in decoding ( loss of SQ readings) could indicate interference from 5G.

Thanks for chiming in here. No wasps (or hornets nests) but good suggestion.

I am getting 70 and over Quality on uHD which is good but as you say the signal drops out (70 to 0 ) occasionally and much worse by day (even JTV which I used to get solid is a mess in the day. Again Daystar (VER) is fine but still not what it used to be.

I will will either have to get a BPF or go VHF/UHF for these channels but not giving up just yet!

p.s. Isn't there something between your feedhorn/lnbf BPF model and Norsat's 1500$ BPF and 5G filtering lnb's? Heck almost ready for a diy (reverse engineer) job here (microwave BPF hack) Ah where is Radio Electronics when you need it! If it wasn't for losing Ku I'd buy your lnbf in a heartbeat! Are these hard to add Ku to?

Titanium

Wednesday at 1:19 PM

Our LNBFs are integrated with the feedhorn and no KU option. Maybe install an inline waveguide BPF such as:

www.ebay.com/itm/158077455896
www.ebay.com/itm/960059145385
www.ebay.com/itm/158007483799

brownsfan1

Yesterday at 9:22 PM

TvMind said:
Howdy folks long time no write.

Issue(s): Horizontal transponders (esp. Weigel mux) breakup/mosaic/sputtering audio, JTV less so (but received perfectly up until a month or so ago.
Vertical is fine (Daystar). Up until recently couldn't even get any signal on Weigel Mux but JTV was perfect.

What I did to improve things: A slight westward move improved reception but only slightly (approx 72 on the micro HD, sorry no dB to post). I removed the 3-way C-Band splitter and used a 2-way to get a 1-2 db signal gain ( the power port goes to the Startrak - the micro HD doesn't have enough juice ! (1st clue) even after swapping the switching power supply it came with with a heftier linear 12 V supply (less RFI too !).
I have had issues with the uHD before signal breaking up that a reboot would clear up (clue #2 = dying tuner?) - FYI, I reinforced the IF input and removed all flux from the pcb completely with a Flux Removal Pen (MG Chemicals Cat No. 4140-P) which definitely makes a huge difference.

I went outside and pushed and pulled reflector slightly and no improvement. Pole (actually tower in yard - the neighbours love me..NOT) is plumb, checked with carpenters level. Dish was last peaked in 2017 or so, after overhauling 24" Von Weise, new Acme, fresh grease, etc. Focal length, f/d ratio etc meticulously adjusted. One panel has a tear so planning to repair that this weekend when my cousin comes over ( to help me out (old guy here) forecast calls for sunshine.

What has changed: My utility company has installed new high tension line poles (one smack dab in the middle of 101°W target! But they put it in last year and reception (of JTV (HOR) at least) was fine, BUT when they came out to transfer the wires over this year from the old (sawed in half) pole that's about when the troubles started (coincidence?), but again Daystar (VER) was fine. I always had this pole in the light of sight of 101° before with no issues. (fyi my zenith sat 74° is unobstucted, but can't test)

In the meantime Weigel mux is trying to break in MOSTLY in LATE at night (less cell usage?) (audio not video except for a frame here or there) so don't know what has changed with this mux which suddenly "woke up". I have never had to fuss with dish moves on this satellite ( the slightest move +/- motor clicks loses lock, wheres normally on C-band I can go significantly wider east or west and still have a strong signal ( have these gone "spot beam" or narrower somehow and what is the slight difference in Az listed on Lyngsat to 100.9° affect things ( isn't that the declination i.e. requiring a tweak of declination?).

Long story short (too late, ha), if I had another DVB-S2 box to try and / or a newer more stable PLL lnb ( I have been meaning to upgrade many a time but never got arround to it) I could determine if it's my antiquated receiving equipment, or my dish/feed alignment ( doubtful as it tracks everything from 55 °W to 133 ° W nicely.) or the dreaded 5G! (BUT only on HOR and not VER?).
I read another post where the OP (with his smaller 7.5 footer) played around with the illumination to peak desired transponder and reduce qrm on interfering/ stronger xpndrs (even on 103° W). So will play with that too - and cut away the RG-6 a and pull up a fresh section with new PPC and coax Seal. Open the throat cap see if any cobwebs are there and check servo operation (also changed in last maintence 10 years ago).

Finally, this will probably be the last chance I get to play with the BUD from the looks of it (providers leaving, auctioning off rest of spectrum imminent above 4.0 Ghz, and to keep the peace with neighbours so it would be nice to have that mux back for the long, cold and dark winters to comfort this old man before I call it quits and buy a VHF/UHF/FM Yagi and get MeTV, H&I from my Vermont local stations (checked at a friends today and they come in nicely - except ABC) .
Only one guy in town (Montreal) I may be able to get a receiver or PLL lnb from to try (RPS Sat) so hopefully with elimnate that as a possible culprit. Be nice to pick up a cheap or used PLL lnb to try w/o 5G BPF (money is tight )

Like others I couldn't care less about "tv" (well maybe just a liitle or a lot) it's the challenge that excites me , I can get MeTV other ways OTA (no pirate crap).

So what do you guys (and gals) think ?. p.s. I don't have a spectrum analyzer and there are def/ cell towers nearby (half a Km or so away).
Oh and time permitting will hammer out dings too and wire damaged mesh on one section for an extra dB or two. Hesitate to touch Declination, Elevation and pole mount but will play around with those a little too... Why is this mux for finicky suddenly ?(8psk, 5/6 fec, beamwidthetc.. man wish they went back to VER I think everthing would be fine! For the engineers out here does 5G QRM affect one poliarization (HOR) more than another (VER)? I understand the strong interference swamps out the input mixer/local oscilator in the hapless old C-band lnb (I think it at time affect KU too esp. LPB on 101°W KU - incidentally thos were weak or "gone' but are back almost at the time MeTV improved..hmm Terrestrial interference?

Any thoughts or suggestions ( cheap or free solutions please) greatly appreciated. Cheers.

p.p.s. Micro HD can't display Decades and Toons but records them fine so I can watch on another box/media player (Ali chip set issue). Another reason to upgrade.

Anybody interested in a nice C/KU system free ? (for next Spring/Summer 2027)

[Sami 10' mesh, Corotor II+, Eagle Aspen (very old) C-band lnb, Norsat Ku lnb, Channel Master C/Ku (H/V) switch, Startrak 400 Analog receiver w/ motor control, Geosat uHD DVD-S2, CW600S for Mpeg-2]

I had the EXACT same problem happen to me with 101w, MeTV mux (Weigel). Working great when about 3 weeks ago I started to get the pixelating, especially at night. Sometimes Jewelry TV would also do it, sometimes not. Tweaked my dish. I have a Titanium 240 feed with the 5G filter 4.0-4.2 band pass. Every other satellite is working fine. Something on their end for sure. Power reduction? My signal seems fine like always. Running a Winegard 8.5 ft dish using a GT Media UHD V8. I'm sure my receiver isn't maybe sensitive enough for lower signal levels. Frustrating here too. I'm in the Canton, Ohio area. Thanks!

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