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salsadancer7
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
I didn't make much of the Auburn hiring of Gene Chizik until I heard what Charles Barkely said yesterday on Dan LeBetard's radio show. I cannot think of 1 good reason why they hired him OVER Turner Gil...not one. I don't think they should have hired JUST a black coach, but of all the guys they interviewed.....it definately sounded like a one horse race.

Lobbying for Gill, alum Barkley says Auburn should have hired black coach

By Mark Schlabach

Updated: December 16, 2008, 4:32 PM ET

Former Auburn and NBA star Charles Barkley ripped the school he attended on Monday, saying the only reason the Tigers did not hire Buffalo's Turner Gill as the school's new football coach is because Gill is black.

Auburn on Saturday hired Iowa State's Gene Chizik, who had a 5-19 record in two seasons with the Cyclones. Chizik was the defensive coordinator at Auburn in 2004, when the Tigers finished 13-0 and ranked No. 2 in the country.

Chizik replaces former Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville, who won 85 games in 10 seasons but was forced to resign earlier this month.

"I think race was the No. 1 factor," said Barkley, who played basketball for three seasons at Auburn during the early 1980s. "You can say it's not about race, but you can't compare the two résumés and say [Chizik] deserved the job. Out of all the coaches they interviewed, Chizik probably had the worst résumé."

Gill, a former Nebraska quarterback, took over one of the country's worst programs at Buffalo three years ago. He guided the Bulls to an 8-5 record and their first MAC championship this season, upsetting previously unbeaten Ball State 42-24 in the Dec. 5 conference championship game.

The Bulls won 10 games in their first seven seasons at the Division I-A level. Gill guided Buffalo to 13 victories during the past two seasons combined.

"I'm just very disappointed," Barkley said. "I just thought Turner Gill would be the perfect choice for two reasons: He's a terrific coach and we needed to make a splash. I thought we had to do something spectacular to bring attention to the program. Clearly, if we'd hired a black coach, it would have created a buzz."

Barkley, who works as an NBA analyst for Turner Network Television, said he spoke with Gill before Gill interviewed with Auburn officials last week.

"We talked about the whole race thing in Alabama," Barkley said. "I told him it's there and it's going to be anywhere you go. I told him you can't not take the job because of racism. He was worried about being nothing more than a token interview. He was concerned about having a white wife. It's just very disappointing to me."

Chizik said Monday he understands the expectations as he takes over at Auburn and that there's only one way to quiet fans upset by his hiring.

"You gotta win," Chizik said during a news conference. A half-dozen or so times, Chizik confidently said he was the "right guy" for the job.

"Nobody's expectation that is a fan of Auburn University is higher than mine," Chizik said. "That sums it up. My expectations are very high. I understand that the people of this place, including myself, they want championships. That's my expectation of myself. That's what I take with me to sleep with every night."

The results at Iowa State weren't spectacular, yet Auburn athletic director Jay Jacobs said Chizik's plan for turning around the Cyclones was part of what got him the job.

"He was on path there at Iowa State to turn that program around in a positive way," said Jacobs. He called Chizik a "tireless recruiter" with a solid plan.

Five wins in two years got Chizik an offer of a two-year contract extension at Iowa State. He reportedly will receive a five-year contract worth about $2 million a year from Auburn, about double his former deal which included a $750,000 buyout.

Iowa State athletic director Jamie Pollard sounded upset to lose Chizik. He said Monday during a news conference in Ames that twice last week, Chizik assured him that he wouldn't dump the Cyclones for Auburn.

Pollard said that Iowa State's fans, staff and players "deserved better."

"He's got to reconcile in himself what he told all these players and what he told our administration and what he's doing now," Pollard said. "And if he can live with that, more power to him. I know Jamie Pollard couldn't have done that to this place."

Asked about Barkley's comments to ESPN, Jacobs said: "Well, my reaction is I was picking the best fit for Auburn."

Barkley, an 11-time NBA All-Star and two-time Olympic gold medal winner, said he served on Auburn's search committee for a new basketball coach after the 2003-04 season. Barkley said he told Auburn officials he would serve on the committee only if the school was ready to hire a black coach.

Barkley said he presented three African-American candidates for consideration: former Indiana coach Mike Davis, then-Virginia Commonwealth coach Jeff Capel and then-UAB coach Mike Anderson.

Barkley said all three candidates wanted to coach at Auburn. Instead, the Tigers hired then-Chattanooga coach Jeff Lebo, a white candidate. Lebo has a 61-68 record in his fifth season at Auburn.

Barkley said he was removed from Auburn's search committee before Lebo was hired.

"Out of all the basketball coaches they interviewed, they picked the only one who hadn't been to the NCAA tournament," Barkley said.

There are only four African-American coaches among 119 programs in the NCAA's Football Bowl Subdivision. Illinois offensive coordinator Mike Locksley was hired as New Mexico's coach last week; the others are Gill, Miami's Randy Shannon and Houston's Kevin Sumlin.

Two African-American coaches, Washington's Tyrone Willingham and Kansas State's Ron Prince, were fired during the 2008 season, and Mississippi State's Sylvester Croom resigned.

Barkley said he wanted Gill to become Auburn's coach because Auburn is a school where an African-American coach could be successful.

"My biggest problem with the black coaches is they're not getting jobs and they're getting [expletive] jobs when they are hired," Barkley said. "They're not getting good jobs. They're not getting jobs where they can be successful. That's why I wanted Turner to get the Auburn job. He could win consistently at Auburn. You can't win consistently at New Mexico. You can't win consistently at Kansas State. He could have won at Auburn."

[ame="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3770769"]Charles Barkley outraged by Auburn Tigers' hiring of Gene Chizik - ESPN[/ame]
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Paul Wozniak
I'm so tired of "race issues". Didn't we just elect a "man of color" president? Barkley should give a bigger donation to the school, and then maybe he would have a bigger voice in these matters.
Rey
Rey
I'm so tired of "race issues". Didn't we just elect a "man of color" president? Barkley should give a bigger donation to the school, and then maybe he would have a bigger voice in these matters.

While many of you are making excellent points and have great observations like salsa,Hdm and others, i just feel that some (media) are making a bigger deal out of this than what it actually is. Sometimes the ones that say a decision was made based on race are the 1st ones that are racists. That's just my personal feeling on the subject. I'll just keep on reading what you guys post in this thread.
salsadancer7
While many of you are making excellent points and have great observations like salsa,Hdm and others, i just feel that some (media) are making a bigger deal out of this than what it actually is. Sometimes the ones that say a decision was made based on race are the 1st ones that are racists. That's just my personal feeling on the subject. I'll just keep on reading what you guys post in this thread.

See, I can understand Barkley's point: ONE, he his alumni, that contributes ALOT of money to the school and would like for QUALIFIED blacks to be offered jobs, especially when almost 75% of the athletes participating IN THE SPORT are black. TWO, he spoke to Gil during the process, and he stated that he was a good guy with MORE than good enough qualifications for the job. THREE, the coach selected might have been a GOD as a defensive coordinator....but sucked as a head coach AT a relatively decent size program...that ENDED the season with a 10 game losing streak to boot.

SOME coaches are just not ment to be head coaches.....
BlackHitachi
See, I can understand Barkley's point: ONE, he his alumni, that contributes ALOT of money to the school and would like for QUALIFIED blacks to be offered jobs, especially when almost 75% of the athletes participating IN THE SPORT are black. TWO, he spoke to Gil during the process, and he stated that he was a good guy with MORE than good enough qualifications for the job. THREE, the coach selected might have been a GOD as a defensive coordinator....but sucked as a head coach AT a relatively decent size program...that ENDED the season with a 10 game losing streak to boot.

SOME coaches are just not ment to be head coaches.....
75% of the Athletes and 95% starters! I hope most of the recruits see this and goes to another school!
charper1
75% of the Athletes and 95% starters! I hope most of the recruits see this and goes to another school!


Yep BH, I think that thought / plan is a bit to simplistic and really doesn't solve or prove anything. An example using your stat could also be used to say that maybe non-Blacks are being discriminated against at the player / starter level. Should we then force schools to accept players, students, etc just to fill stats or make things look a certain way to appease others or make them more media friendly? I don't think so. These types of knee-jerk reactions can tend to make things worse over time. Sometime, most times, we need to look beyond race as being the key factor or any factor in why decisions are made. Usually its not the factor, but everyone knows that uttering racism garners much more attention while ALSO negatively impacting the people and or institution its used against; a de facto, pre-proof punishment if you will; almost in a strong-arm, terrorist, extortion kind of way! If we are ever to truly move past racism as a civilized people, then we MUST stop throwing it out there as the first cause, the only cause of why someone may or may not get their way; or as the only explanations as to why things happen to us.
mdonnelly
Yep BH, I think that thought / plan is a bit to simplistic and really doesn't solve or prove anything. An example using your stat could also be used to say that maybe non-Blacks are being discriminated against at the player / starter level. Should we then force schools to accept players, students, etc just to fill stats or make things look a certain way to appease others or make them more media friendly? I don't think so. These types of knee-jerk reactions can tend to make things worse over time. Sometime, most times, we need to look beyond race as being the key factor or any factor in why decisions are made. Usually its not the factor, but everyone knows that uttering racism garners much more attention while ALSO negatively impacting the people and or institution its used against; a de facto, pre-proof punishment if you will; almost in a strong-arm, terrorist, extortion kind of way! If we are ever to truly move past racism as a civilized people, then we MUST stop throwing it out there as the first cause, the only cause of why someone may or may not get their way; or as the only explanations as to why things happen to us.
And we must never close our eyes and pretend that racism doesn't exist. These decisions need to be examined beyond the explanations given in public by the decision makers. The NCAA does need to be involved in the process when there is such a great disparity in the number of minority coaches in college football, and qualified minority coaches are being passed over for positions at major programs.

We'll know that we've achieved a milestone in race relations when a minority coach can be hired and fired without race entering the discussion. We're not there yet.
cosmo_kramer
These decisions need to be examined beyond the explanations given in public by the decision makers. The NCAA does need to be involved in the process when there is such a great disparity in the number of minority coaches in college football, and qualified minority coaches are being passed over for positions at major programs.
The only thing the NCAA could do would be to institute something like the NFL has, the Rooney Rule. This requires teams with head coaching vacancies interview at least one minority candidate. But, that rule wasn't needed here because there were two minority coaches interviewed.

Mike Tomlin is probably the best example of how that has worked. But, there is also the negative side of a mandated interview with a minority candidate when a team has essentially made up their mind on a known commodity. Just look at the talk about Schottenheimer to the Browns. He's probably the odds-on favorite to get the job, but the Browns would have to interview minority candidates anyway.

Like I said in an earlier post yesterday:

Hiring someone is obviously a subjective decision. You would hope that with millions of dollars and possibly their jobs and at stake, Auburn's administration would make their decision with the school's best interest at heart. Did they make a bad decision?? Time will tell. Did they make a racist decision?? I doubt it.
The Insider
75% of the Athletes and 95% starters! I hope most of the recruits see this and goes to another school!


See Auburn is more racist then we thought... How come there are not more white people on the team starting!! :rolleyes:
BlackHitachi
See Auburn is more racist then we thought... How come there are not more white people on the team starting!! :rolleyes:
Speed, strength, talent? I guess??:rolleyes: I don't know but to NOT see it would be very simple of a person.
Paul Wozniak
The only thing the NCAA could do would be to institute something like the NFL has, the Rooney Rule. This requires teams with head coaching vacancies interview at least one minority candidate. But, that rule wasn't needed here because there were two minority coaches interviewed.

Mike Tomlin is probably the best example of how that has worked. But, there is also the negative side of a mandated interview with a minority candidate when a team has essentially made up their mind on a known commodity. Just look at the talk about Schottenheimer to the Browns. He's probably the odds-on favorite to get the job, but the Browns would have to interview minority candidates anyway.

Like I said in an earlier post yesterday:

The Lions interviewed Tomlin, and passed. (Post your ridicule here.) The "Rooney Rule" worked really well in that instance.:rolleyes:
The Insider
Speed, strength, talent? I guess??:rolleyes: I don't know but to NOT see it would be very simple of a person.

I guess they chose this coach because of his inteligence then..:rolleyes:
The Insider
The rooney rule is as retarded as any. I dont think at the level of the NFL or NCAA you really "Apply" for the coaching job. They look at everyone and pick who they want. They will make a list and of those people some will not be interested, but the ones that are they will weigh against each other in an "interview" if you will. I know if I owned an NFL team or was an AD at a uni, id at least have a list of a couple people to replace all my coaches "just in case" anything happens..

The rooney rule is nothing but more affirmative action crap to make people "feel good".
BlackHitachi
I guess they chose this coach because of his inteligence then..:rolleyes:
Nope thats why we are upset. If they would have done that the right guy would have got the job!!:D:up:rolleyes:
cosmo_kramer
The Lions interviewed Tomlin, and passed. (Post your ridicule here.) The "Rooney Rule" worked really well in that instance.:rolleyes:
The Rooney Rule has no provisions to handle organizational incompetence.
Paul Wozniak
The Rooney Rule has no provisions to handle organizational incompetence.

Exactly.
Bruce
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
Thanks to Fitch Ratings ( who gives the ratings on Credit and debt, as approved by the SEC, so they have accurate numbers) we have the totals.

DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.

The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.

It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.

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raoul5788
They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo. Edit: And I've been a Directv customer for 30 years!
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b4pjoe
They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo.
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:
  • NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.
  • NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.
  • Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.
  • A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.
  • AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv
Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.
Jimbo
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:
  • NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.
  • NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.
  • Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.
  • A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.
  • AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv
Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.
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raoul5788
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:
  • NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.
  • NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.
  • Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.
  • A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.
  • AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv
Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.
Understandable. It's always a choice of price vs channels. The $60/month difference made my choice easier.
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YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels
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YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels
It does still carry the NBC Sports branded RSN's, but obviously in those limited markets...
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
Recently came back to DirectTV Satellite service and have two boxes, Gemini and a main HR54.

DirecTV is charging me two "TV access fees" of $10 each, but can only watch TV on the one without the server. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
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FHSPSU67
First receiver should be free. It is for me.
b4pjoe
First receiver should be free. It is for me.
It is for me too. Back when they merged DIRECTV via Internet and DIRECTV Stream into one service they raised the TV access fee from $7.00 to $10.00 from both streaming and satellite and they eliminated the first receiver free for new customers only. Existing customers weren't affected by the new price and the elimination of the first receiver free policy.
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It is for me too. Back when they merged DIRECTV via Internet and DIRECTV Stream into one service they raised the TV access fee from $7.00 to $10.00 from both streaming and satellite and they eliminated the first receiver free for new customers only. Existing customers weren't affected by the new price and the elimination of the first receiver free policy.
All of this makes me want to cancel satellite again! Customer service said we were getting billed for an old receiver but the call got cut off.

Will call back and try to get this resolved. As of now, only one TV can access satellite service. Would hope they can send another Gemini to be co-located w the main HR54.
S
Update: after 20 mins on phone with a non North American call center agent, they are sending a tech out. The tech support couldn't understand that the HR54 was at a different TV than the Gemini.
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Update: after 20 mins on phone with a non North American call center agent, they are sending a tech out. The tech support couldn't understand that the HR54 was at a different TV than the Gemini.
this is why we canceled support and the csr's are garbage even the american ones. it's still under the att system!!!
Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I Can't Help It (If I'm Still In Love With You) - B.J. Thomas
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Help Is On Its Way - Little River Band
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Little Band of Gold - Sonny James
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Band Of Gold - Freda Payne
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Heart Of Gold - Neil Young
zippyfrog
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Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
I feel like this was discussed in another thread, but I can't find it. I have T-Mobile and my last iPhone upgrade was in 2020. I want to get a new iPhone, but what is the best way to go about doing it? Should I order the iPhone from T-Mobile directly, or should I buy from the Apple Store? I feel like there are pros/cons to each option.
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navychop
I know of no reason to buy from a cell company.

Buying from Apple gets an unlocked phone.

PS- New models come out in Octoberish.
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Foxbat
I got a carrier-locked iPhone once, and it was a pain after they got bought by Sprint and I decided to go to T-Mobile and they dragged their feet to unlock the phone. I have been trading in my iPhones since and buying from the Apple Store since then.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I have a Hopper with Sling. (Don't know exact model.) A couple nights ago, I went into the DVR screen, and noted that it was recording three programs. Yet I was able to view live TV (that was not one of the channels being recorded.) Did something change? In the past, it would only let me watch one of the channels being recorded, or any recording in the DVR menu. Maybe it was streaming, although there was no indication of that?

Apologies if this has been covered; I searched and didn't find anything.

Thanks.
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So I tested.

Started recording three non-network shows and tried to watch live TV, would not do it, because all three tuners were in use.

Started recording two non-network shows and one network show. Still would not let me tune live TV.

Started recording one non-network show and two network shows, then it allowed live TV.

I would assume then that previously I was recording two or three network shows when it allowed live TV; I honestly don't remember what it was doing, and I didn't think to check.

Thanks for replies, everyone.

PS - How does one know whether a program is streaming? Is there a way to force streaming?
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Bobby
So I tested.

Started recording three non-network shows and tried to watch live TV, would not do it, because all three tuners were in use.

Started recording two non-network shows and one network show. Still would not let me tune live TV.

Started recording one non-network show and two network shows, then it allowed live TV.

I would assume then that previously I was recording two or three network shows when it allowed live TV; I honestly don't remember what it was doing, and I didn't think to check.

Thanks for replies, everyone.

PS - How does one know whether a program is streaming? Is there a way to force streaming?
There is no way to force streaming. It is a satellite channel or streaming channel except for the rare occasion that the satellite signal fails. If that happens some, not all, channels will automatically change to streaming. You can tell if the channel is streaming by pressing guide on the remote. if it is a streaming channel the guide will clearly show it that way.
navychop
Cough, cough, Hopper3!
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There is no way to force streaming. It is a satellite channel or streaming channel except for the rare occasion that the satellite signal fails. If that happens some, not all, channels will automatically change to streaming. You can tell if the channel is streaming by pressing guide on the remote. if it is a streaming channel the guide will clearly show it that way.
Thanks, Bobby.
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chokes hopper 3 all the way... 16 tuners vs 3 tuners is a night and day difference. along with a faster processor. i would call in and see if they would upgrade me or you can buy a hopper 3 from solid signal.
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Smuuth
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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Classifieds

WANTED  DirecTV LCC

Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.
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b4pjoe
Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.
You should ask DIRECTV for one if you are affected by the dispute. I know in the past they have given them out during a dispute. Not sure if they still do that but it is free to ask.
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You should ask DIRECTV for one if you are affected by the dispute. I know in the past they have given them out during a dispute. Not sure if they still do that but it is free to ask.
I already asked, but the CS agent said they wouldn't do it. They said the only thing they could do is $10/month bill credit.
Jimbo
I already asked, but the CS agent said they wouldn't do it. They said the only thing they could do is $10/month bill credit.
Take the $10 and Call Back ...
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Take the $10 and Call Back ...
I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results. 🤬
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Jimbo
I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results. 🤬
Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.

If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.
I would make them give you a real answer, don't let them off the hook.


I had one, and it worked well, but I believe I gave it to another D* friend (also had a AM21), I know I gave them away ...
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Smuuth
Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.

If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.
According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit. 🙄
Jimbo
According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit. 🙄
I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.
Smuuth
I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.
Yeah, I know. At one point, I even had 3 AM21s but gave them away when I got rid of my last HR54 and switched to the HS17.
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Good luck they haven't made them in years. you could poke around on ebay and see if there's any on there. if not why not a tablo or a zapper box with an antenna connected to it
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Smuuth
Good luck they haven't made them in years. you could poke around on ebay and see if there's any on there. if not why not a tablo or a zapper box with an antenna connected to it
I have my OTA antenna connected to my television directly already so watching is not the issue. The reason I want the LCC is so I could record programs if I'm not at home to watch them live, especially since ABC is carrying both the NBA and NHL playoffs.
I have an active search on eBay and there is one there but he wants $180 plus shipping and I am not going to pay that.
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I have my OTA antenna connected to my television directly already so watching is not the issue. The reason I want the LCC is so I could record programs if I'm not at home to watch them live, especially since ABC is carrying both the NBA and NHL playoffs.
I have an active search on eBay and there is one there but he wants $180 plus shipping and I am not going to pay that.
a tablo box is cheaper
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why invest in hardware that's going to be boat anchors in a few years?
zippyfrog
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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Does cable charge box rent?
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Does cable charge box rent?
The cable company I was with years ago did charge $9.99 for a receiver.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
I went to try to add the Heartland channel as dummy to see what it would do for me as I own my receiver and have DISH Outdoors and this is what mine shows. (Note however I had to take the 2nd receiver I told you I added the other day off because I was told you can only have 1 receiver when you have a one outlet on the Dish Playmaker and was having issues with the 2nd receiver and I didn't know that and that was done yesterday as well so I am back to one receiver.)

Let's upgrade your package.

Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month.

Breakdown

June 11, 2026 - July 11, 2026
You are changing your programming in the middle of the bill cycle. The bill shown below is your bill for next month including prorations and credits. Your following bill will return to the fixed rate. This bill will take effect from now until July 11, 2026.
Monthly Services
$86.99

Flex Pack
$72.99
Local Channels
$14.00
Add-Ons
$68.98

National Action Pack
$12.00
Regional Action Pack
$12.00
News Pack
$10.00
Paramount+ with Showtime
$10.00
Drama and Classics Pack
$6.00
Heartland Pack
$6.00
Starz Encore Movies
$6.00
On DISH Magazine
$4.99
Starz 2 Mo ($11)
$1.99
Prorated Charges
$7.93

Heartland Pack Jun 11 - Jul 20
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93

Prorated Total
$7.93
Due Today
$7.93

Transition Bill Total
$156.10
Proposed Changes

Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month
Monthly Services
$86.99
Add-Ons
$68.98
FCC Regulatory Surcharge
$0.13
Taxes & Surcharges
$0.00

Monthly Total
$156.10
Prorated Total
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93

Due Today
$7.93

Sounds like an issue with DISH Billing

RJ T.
From Illinois

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I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.
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I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.
I am hoping they don't add this down the road. Things are expensive the way it is now. Even DIRECTV allows the first receiver free. This would go against DISH and DISH is already loosing subscribers I wouldn't think they would do these kind of tricks but you never know. Always look at your bills for unknow charges. I heard horror stories of people getting charged for things they didn't know were there.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Does cable charge box rent?
yes big cable charges crazy dvr fee's and box rental fee's
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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HipKat
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois
Thank you for the information. I do keep the TV plugged into a surge protector, but we have had pretty strong thunderstorms/lightning in the last month so that have contributed to my problem.The house was built in 2009 so everything seems to be grounded correctly. We have had a power surge also. Seems like no one fixes anything any more, so just get a new one or live with the problem. Thanks
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First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look
I think the HDMI cable is good, i used one of my own from my 4K atmos system, i'll switch it with another just to check. Also I have a bid in at Greentoe for 77" G5. Thanks
HipKat
I think the HDMI cable is good, i used one of my own from my 4K atmos system, i'll switch it with another just to check. Also I have a bid in at Greentoe for 77" G5. Thanks
I hope that works. I'm waiting til Black Friday sales
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I've had this problem with my older Sony TV. It happens when I just punch in a regular channel number. The only way it works right for me is to push guide and select a regular channel from the guide screen.
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House of the Dragon, the prequel to Game of Thrones, premieres on HBO Max on 8/21. I will be warching



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That was as bad as the rest of the show. Jean Smart was mostly invisible.
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I prefer the trailer for the movie adaptation of Mario Kart. At least that had Pedro Pascal in it.
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"A new line of unsullied kings" would seem impossible given the GoT definition of "unsullied". :biggrin
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