Social Feed

SabresRule
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
BC's Jagodzinski meets with New York Jets - College Football - Rivals.com

I understand why he is interviewing for the job, since he was Favre's former offensive coordinator.

However, suppose he gets the job and Favre retires, or he doesn't get it?

IMO, this is an incredibly dumb risk- is it REALLY worth it?
26 Replies · 3090 views
cosmo_kramer
This kind of thing happens all the time. Most coaches have buy-out provisions in their contracts for just such a thing. Is it bad that he is trying to advance himself and move up to a better, higher paying position?? Unless there is specific language in the contract barring contact with NFL teams the school is looking at a potential lawsuit over his firing.

But, then again, Boston College should be used to this kind of behavior. They were involved in some shenanigans a few years ago themselves...

The suit asserts Miami and Boston College, secretly and in collusion with the ACC and its member schools, violated their legal obligations and fiduciary duties to their partners, the universities of the Big East. The suit also alleges Miami and Boston, while repeatedly reassuring the public they were firmly committed to the Big East, were at the same time actively and secretly planning to move to the ACC.

Big East teams name ACC in lawsuit - Triangle Business Journal:
salsadancer7
This kind of thing happens all the time. Most coaches have buy-out provisions in their contracts for just such a thing. Is it bad that he is trying to advance himself and move up to a better, higher paying position?? Unless there is specific language in the contract barring contact with NFL teams the school is looking at a potential lawsuit over his firing.

But, then again, Boston College should be used to this kind of behavior. They were involved in some shenanigans a few years ago themselves...



Big East teams name ACC in lawsuit - Triangle Business Journal:

GOOD!!! As much as I love The U....they SHOULD be sued if they pulled this crap!! IF YOU SIGN A CONTRACT....you should be held to HONOR that contract...if PLAYERS have to, then coaches and OTHER institution should be too!

This is the hypocrisy that way too many fans have when it comes to sports...they make a big stink about players not wanting to honor theirs...but coaches and others get a pass.
Paul Wozniak
GOOD!!! As much as I love The U....they SHOULD be sued if they pulled this crap!! IF YOU SIGN A CONTRACT....you should be held to HONOR that contract...if PLAYERS have to, then coaches and OTHER institution should be too!

This is the hypocrisy that way too many fans have when it comes to sports...they make a big stink about players not wanting to honor theirs...but coaches and others get a pass.

OK, you win the suit. Now what? You want this guy to go out and still coach you're team even though he doesn't want to? This America, you can work wherever you want, and you can be fired without notice at anytime. You can't force somebody to work for you. Just the way it is.
salsadancer7
OK, you win the suit. Now what? You want this guy to go out and still coach you're team even though he doesn't want to? This America, you can work wherever you want, and you can be fired without notice at anytime. You can't force somebody to work for you. Just the way it is.

OK...YOU win...I don't EVER wanna hear ANYONE bitch about an athlete to "honor your contract" EVER again because he wants more money and wants to renegociate....because that is the ONLY thing this school is asking. He is getting treated well, payed well and he is NO WHERE near a MAJOR program like a USC, tOSU, ND, Alabama or Florida State where the perks are REALLY big!
cosmo_kramer
OK...YOU win...I don't EVER wanna hear ANYONE bitch about an athlete to "honor your contract" EVER again because he wants more money and wants to renegociate....because that is the ONLY thing this school is asking. He is getting treated well, payed well and he is NO WHERE near a MAJOR program like a USC, tOSU, ND, Alabama or Florida State where the perks are REALLY big!
That's not the same thing as what we're discussing. Jags isn't trying to hold BC hostage, he's simply trying to get himself a better and more lucrative position. Unless there is a clause in his contract that expressly forbids it, it is legal for him to pursue another job.

Below is a portion of a sample NCAA head coaching contract (Lisa Bluder, head women's basketball coach at Iowa). I'm not claiming Jagodzinski's contract is exactly like this, but from what I have heard/read, this type of clause is pretty standard these days:

TERMINATION BY UNIVERSITY WITHOUT CAUSE; LIQUIDATED DAMAGES

This Contract may be terminated by the President at any time without cause. In such event, Coach will not be reassigned to any other position within the Department of Athletics. Further, in such event, University shall pay to Coach as liquidated damages, in lieu of any and all other legal remedies or equitable relief, the sum of $300,000 for each year or portion thereof (pro rata) remaining in this Contract, representing Coach's annual salary and the agreed value of all fringe benefits provided by University. The above sums will not be reduced in the event of Coach's subsequent employment during the period covered by this Contract. Payments shall be made in equal monthly installments over the remaining months of this Contract, beginning one month after the date of termination. The University shall not be liable to Coach for any University benefits or any collateral business opportunities or other benefits associated with Coach's position as head women's basketball coach. The parties have bargained for this liquidated damages provision, giving consideration to the following: This is a Contract for personal services. The parties recognize that a termination of this Contract by University prior to its natural expiration may cause Coach to lose certain benefits, supplemental compensation or outside compensation relating to her employment at University, which damages are difficult to determine with certainty. Accordingly, the parties agree to this liquidated damage provision. In the event University decides to exercise this clause, Coach shall be given thirty (30) days notice and a chance to resign within the 30 days, in which event she shall still receive the liquidated damages herein provided.

"Cause" usually refers to morals or NCAA violations. Firing the coach without cause would seem to be the case with Jagodzinski.

So, if I'm reading this correctly, the University can fire the coach at any time without cause and if they do the coach receives their pay and benefits. These amounts will not be reduced if the coach gets another job during this contract time.

It's good to be a coach!!!

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/assets/pdf/LisaBluder_contract.pdf
B
It just sucks for BC. I actually am not a BC fan. I went to Notheastern, I have family that went to BU and Harvard.

I feel for the program, every time they get a decent coach they leave. I think the only long term guy they had was Jack Bicknell (the father). They have had decent coaches in both Basketball and Football and lost them.
anders5189
Hard to blame Jagodinzki here. BC fans don't really support the team when they win but they will surely complain if they lose. Jags has worked with both Brett Favre and Matt Ryan, which should make him very attractive to many NFL teams. And he is one of the lowest paid coaches in the ACC. Jags will probably land on his feet. The question is where will BC football be in 5 years? I doubt they can count on making annual appearnces in the ACC CG.
cosmo_kramer
It just sucks for BC. I actually am not a BC fan. I went to Notheastern, I have family that went to BU and Harvard.

I feel for the program, every time they get a decent coach they leave. I think the only long term guy they had was Jack Bicknell (the father). They have had decent coaches in both Basketball and Football and lost them.
I have heard that Jack Jr. is a potential candidate for the job...
salsadancer7
That's not the same thing as what we're discussing. Jags isn't trying to hold BC hostage, he's simply trying to get himself a better and more lucrative position. Unless there is a clause in his contract that expressly forbids it, it is legal for him to pursue another job.

Below is a portion of a sample NCAA head coaching contract (Lisa Bluder, head women's basketball coach at Iowa). I'm not claiming Jagodzinski's contract is exactly like this, but from what I have heard/read, this type of clause is pretty standard these days:



"Cause" usually refers to morals or NCAA violations. Firing the coach without cause would seem to be the case with Jagodzinski.

So, if I'm reading this correctly, the University can fire the coach at any time without cause and if they do the coach receives their pay and benefits. These amounts will not be reduced if the coach gets another job during this contract time.

It's good to be a coach!!!

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/assets/pdf/LisaBluder_contract.pdf


OK so if the situations are different or not what we are discussing...then why bring it up as an example?:confused:

This kind of thing happens all the time. Most coaches have buy-out provisions in their contracts for just such a thing. Is it bad that he is trying to advance himself and move up to a better, higher paying position?? Unless there is specific language in the contract barring contact with NFL teams the school is looking at a potential lawsuit over his firing.

But, then again, Boston College should be used to this kind of behavior. They were involved in some shenanigans a few years ago themselves...
cosmo_kramer
OK so if the situations are different or not what we are discussing...then why bring it up as an example?:confused:
I don't know why you're confused, they are two different scenarios.

The buy-out provisions are for when a coach accepts another job when he already has one. He's decided to leave and it's a way to get out of his contract. That's the most common scenario and it fiscally protects the school. In this case though, Jagodzinski only interviewed for the job. If he's fired for doing that he'll most likely get his full pay with benefits.

Not too shabby!!!

"We're really good friends and this is a very difficult thing to do," DeFilippo said at a news conference. "We will find somebody who really wants to be at Boston College and will be here for the length of their contract."

The best way to do that is probably to sign coaches to shorter contracts and offer extensions to coaches deserving of them... :up
B
I have heard that Jack Jr. is a potential candidate for the job...

Jack Jr and Spaziani the defensive coordinator (I know I killed the spelling of his name.) are the two people Ive heard most often.
CeltsHD
Jack Jr and Spaziani the defensive coordinator (I know I killed the spelling of his name.) are the two people Ive heard most often.


Coach Spaz was the interim coach two years ago when BC played in the Car Care Bowl. That's when Tom O'Brien left for NC State.
J
Jags has worked with both Brett Favre and Matt Ryan, which should make him very attractive to many NFL teams. And he is one of the lowest paid coaches in the ACC. .

Yeah, he makes a lowly $1,500,000 (which is comparable to other ACC coaches with his level of experience) - hard to imagine how he can feed his family on that. Good luck bettering that as an NFL coordinator.

Rumor has it he hated the college scene, from recruiting, to babysitting players academic issues. Doubtful he'd come back even if he could. By getting fired he's likely going to collect at least his base salary. Wouldn't have gotten a dime if he quit. I think he played the AD for a fool.
salsadancer7
I don't know why you're confused, they are two different scenarios.

The buy-out provisions are for when a coach accepts another job when he already has one. He's decided to leave and it's a way to get out of his contract. That's the most common scenario and it fiscally protects the school. In this case though, Jagodzinski only interviewed for the job. If he's fired for doing that he'll most likely get his full pay with benefits.

Not too shabby!!!



The best way to do that is probably to sign coaches to shorter contracts and offer extensions to coaches deserving of them... :up

My confusion is....if they were two different scenarios....why did you bring them up if one has nothing to do with the other? I know how they are different...
cosmo_kramer
My confusion is....if they were two different scenarios....why did you bring them up if one has nothing to do with the other? I know how they are different...
I never claimed the buy-out provision was at play here. I only mentioned it as an example because like I said, this is the most common occurance. But, what happened here was a firing without cause which means Jags will still receive most of his remaining salary from the contract.

Either way, from looking at sample HC contracts from top NCAA or pro coaches, there really isn't anything legally tying them to their employers anymore. They can do what Jags did and openly look for a new job and get fired for doing it and still get paid, or they can accept another job offer and buy their way out of their current contract.

I agree 100% with JayStil's earlier comment:

Rumor has it he hated the college scene, from recruiting, to babysitting players academic issues. Doubtful he'd come back even if he could. By getting fired he's likely going to collect at least his base salary. Wouldn't have gotten a dime if he quit. I think he played the AD for a fool.

Why else would he be openly be looking for another job. After all, would you still want a coach who really doesn't want to be there??
Paul Wozniak
OK...YOU win...I don't EVER wanna hear ANYONE bitch about an athlete to "honor your contract" EVER again because he wants more money and wants to renegociate....because that is the ONLY thing this school is asking. He is getting treated well, payed well and he is NO WHERE near a MAJOR program like a USC, tOSU, ND, Alabama or Florida State where the perks are REALLY big!

Don't hold your breath on that one either amigo.:D
meStevo
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
115 Replies · 1815 views
  • Like
Reactions: Jimbo and dfergie
meStevo
Browns lead the AFC North 🤣

Seth Meyers What GIF by Late Night with Seth Meyers
Foxbat
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
rvvaquero
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
M
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
clear.gif

Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
clear.gif

The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
2033 Replies · 184125 views
R
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
long_time_Dish
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
R
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
long_time_Dish
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
68535 Replies · 2673383 views
  • Like
Reactions: c-spand
dishstaller
Blinded By The Light - Manfred Mann's Earth Band
Bobby
I Saw The Light - Todd Rundgren
long_time_Dish
Little Bit Of Light - Strange Weather
  • Like
Reactions: dishstaller
EatMyVolts
A Little Bit of Soap -- The Jarmels
long_time_Dish
Give A Little Bit - Supertramp
  • Love
Reactions: FTA4PA
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
152 Replies · 1921 views
  • Haha
Reactions: Mike0616
Foxbat
Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
  • Haha
Reactions: Jimbo and Mike0616
M


They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
  • Like
Reactions: Howard Simmons
Jimbo
They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
  • Like
Reactions: Mike0616
Peter Parker
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
23 Replies · 1010 views
  • Like
Reactions: LQQK and reubenray
bookworm370
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
N
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
R
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
Foxbat
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Here's the one I need:
1792365258110.webp
dishstaller
Here's the one I need:
Just ordered one....that's great.
jsmit86
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
navychop
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

:popcorn
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
7 Replies · 218 views
HipKat
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
AZ.
AZ.
Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
T
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
Nominal
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.
dishdude
I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
5446 Replies · 335544 views
TRG
TRG
Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.
  • Like
Reactions: Bobby and dfergie
M
Little mini pepperoni pizza, green beans, apples and chocolate milk.
  • Like
Reactions: dfergie
dfergie
Fanta orange soda.
Sitting in fridge cooling off, bought 1 along with 2 Mexican Cokes at La Tienda... (I keep a few cokes stashed as well as in fridge and camper fridge)
  • Like
Reactions: TRG and Mr Tony
M
Garlic cheese bread
Green beans
Apples
Chocolate Milk
Some weird noodles. ;)
(They have salad and a couple other fruits if wanted)
  • Like
Reactions: dfergie
TRG
TRG
Club sandwich and corn chowder. Iced tea.
dfergie
Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)