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Last reply Jan 29, 2009 · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Math Sucks!

Heres what I dont get.
Im not saying all math sucks it's that stuff that you learn after 6th Grade.
ALGEBRA

What is the point of learning this stuff?
In all the things I have ever done, building computers, carpentry, working on cars, etc. I've never needed anything beyond Junior High Math.

It a sad world,
Do you know that The HS that I go to, you only need to take P.E. For 2 years, and only one for one quarter those two years?
Thats why half the kids in school are lard asses.
They should have us take P.E. EVERY DAY.

There's a P.E. class called Outdoors. Where you hunt and fish. THAT is optional, that should be taught as a requirement. You need to learn how to do that, If your on a plane and it goes down, your gonna starve.

Another class that needs to be taught is MANNERS. Im tired of the arrogant, High Class a-holes that think there a step above everyone else.

So that leads us to this. Why is this putrid, brain killing, gut wrenching, satan's alphabet that is called alegbra is taught? Who needs it?

A very small group of us are going to be mathmaticians. So unless your going to be that, you dont need it.

Who, I ask who, has EVER been HAPPY to take math?

Why is this pointless stuff taught, is a waste of time, why dont we have a required class to see what brands of toothbrushes do better then others?

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TREE

Jan 17, 2009

I'm happy being a simple man...I can skin a buck and run a trot-line

navychop

Jan 17, 2009

TREE said:
I'm happy being a simple man...I can skin a buck and run a trot-line

Well, I've run trot lines.

LonghornXP

Jan 27, 2009

All very good points and for the most part much of what we learn in college over four years we will hardly ever use on a day to day basis except for the major for most. These courses are intended to open your mind and allow your brain to think in very different ways. If you never learned history your far more likely as a collective group to repeat the same mistakes past generations have made. You can only prevent what you have learned right.

Most companies require four years of college to make sure they are getting a qualified person on the job but also and just as important to get a well rounded person who has proven he/she could learn and succeed in many various subjects. This proves to the company you can learn and adapt as you see fit. People can have a talent for a specific trade and thus can learn the trade in college and get very good marks. The problem is that these people could very well have no real ability to succeed outside the world of their trade which greatly limits how well they can mature and adapt as a person.

In my case I never really struggled in anything expect for analytic geometry. This was the only course at Boston College I ever believed I could fail "and" never pass no matter how many times I retook the course. Lucky for me it all just clicked in the last month just in time for the final exam which counted as 85% of my grade. Now I fully understand why the final exam counted as 85% of our grades after talking with my fellow classmates after finals. Most of them said it all clicked within the last week or two before the exam. It was nice knowing I was at least ahead of the curve so to speak.

snathanb

Jan 28, 2009

LonghornXP said:
Most companies require four years of college to make sure they are getting a qualified person on the job but also and just as important to get a well rounded person who has proven he/she could learn and succeed in many various subjects. This proves to the company you can learn and adapt as you see fit. People can have a talent for a specific trade and thus can learn the trade in college and get very good marks. The problem is that these people could very well have no real ability to succeed outside the world of their trade which greatly limits how well they can mature and adapt as a person.

You should have posted this in the "University of Phoenix" thread in the pub.

TheForce

Jan 28, 2009

LonghornXP-

Did it ever occur to you that possibly it was not the subject you had problems with but maybe it was the quality of the instruction, or the workload, task loading, you were under at the time and maybe were not able to dedicate adequate time for the material?

Personally, I found that those courses I had great trouble learning could be objectively pinned down to outside influences. eg. I wanted to learn German as my foreign language in HS. I had 4 weeks of introductory German in Jr HS along with a half dozen others during the year. Due to being a military brat, I was transferred to another state and the new HS took my transcripts and mistakenly put me into a second year German class. On day one, all they spoke in class was German and I was not permitted to explain in English to the teacher, who was also a disciplinarian gay man with a whip he cracked on the desk when you tried to say anything in English. So I puilled a clean F in the first grading period before the idiot guidance counselor listened to my mother who got me transferred to German 1. Now if that was a brilliant move, I know you are laughing at this by now with empathy. I was 6 weeks behind the students in German 1. And to add salt into the wound, I had the same teacher! By the 3rd grading period I managed to squeeze out a D but failed German for my Freshman year. So what did I take for next year, No German as I had to dump this Nazi gay freak of a teacher and selected Latin. While the guidance counselor was against this because I did so poorly in German, I managed to get straight A's in Latin and continued to take 3 years of it. The benefit was I also improved my English grades to straight A's as well. Believe it or not, I wanted to be a chemical engineer but could only squeeze B's and C's in math so the math was a struggle for me too. In retrospect, I have to say, math was a huge time consumer and a struggle to complete the workload, participate in sports and play trumpet in the band and the local symphony Orchestra. Back then I was a pretty good trumpet player.
Point being, when you are suffering a subject, don't blame yourself. Take an objective look at the time management of your life and prioritize what needs more of your time.

snathanb

Jan 28, 2009

Don Landis said:
LonghornXP-

Did it ever occur to you that possibly it was not the subject you had problems with but maybe it was the quality of the instruction, or the workload, task loading, you were under at the time and maybe were not able to dedicate adequate time for the material?

Maybe, maybe not. I've seen plenty of people over the years that absolutely excel at Math in every form, yet have difficulty with Geometry, from even the best of instructors.

Paul Wozniak

Jan 28, 2009

Don Landis said:
LonghornXP-

Did it ever occur to you that possibly it was not the subject you had problems with but maybe it was the quality of the instruction, or the workload, task loading, you were under at the time and maybe were not able to dedicate adequate time for the material?

Personally, I found that those courses I had great trouble learning could be objectively pinned down to outside influences. eg. I wanted to learn German as my foreign language in HS. I had 4 weeks of introductory German in Jr HS along with a half dozen others during the year. Due to being a military brat, I was transferred to another state and the new HS took my transcripts and mistakenly put me into a second year German class. On day one, all they spoke in class was German and I was not permitted to explain in English to the teacher, who was also a disciplinarian gay man with a whip he cracked on the desk when you tried to say anything in English. So I puilled a clean F in the first grading period before the idiot guidance counselor listened to my mother who got me transferred to German 1. Now if that was a brilliant move, I know you are laughing at this by now with empathy. I was 6 weeks behind the students in German 1. And to add salt into the wound, I had the same teacher! By the 3rd grading period I managed to squeeze out a D but failed German for my Freshman year. So what did I take for next year, No German as I had to dump this Nazi gay freak of a teacher and selected Latin. While the guidance counselor was against this because I did so poorly in German, I managed to get straight A's in Latin and continued to take 3 years of it. The benefit was I also improved my English grades to straight A's as well. Believe it or not, I wanted to be a chemical engineer but could only squeeze B's and C's in math so the math was a struggle for me too. In retrospect, I have to say, math was a huge time consumer and a struggle to complete the workload, participate in sports and play trumpet in the band and the local symphony Orchestra. Back then I was a pretty good trumpet player.
Point being, when you are suffering a subject, don't blame yourself. Take an objective look at the time management of your life and prioritize what needs more of your time.

My oldest son pulled an A in German class one semester, while getting a D in English in the same semester. Go figure. BTW, I loved mathematics, took every course offered while is in college. The Calc classes were my favorites, geometry the simplest.

Inno

Jan 29, 2009

navychop said:
Well, I've run trot lines.

I always thought he was saying "trap line" which does also make sense in the context of the song.

As far as why you need math or more to the point, who needs math.........and I can relate to the frustration but here goes.
- scientists
- engineers
- carpenters
- HVAC contractors
- plumbers (seriously)
- technicians
- technologists
- mechanics
- architects
- bankers/financial planners
Ok, that's a short list, feel free to add to it........I wish I'd been better at or more interested in math when I was still in school. When you have to take the time to pull up a conversion chart or do things "the long" way because you don't know the right mathematical shortcut that will get you to the right place it's frustrating, time consuming and often times wrong.
Math is truly the one thing that I can identify as being the difference between good and great! I don't know how else to put it........If I were better at math, I'm sure I'd be better at many things.

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Last reply Today at 12:33 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

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Another example:

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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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reubenray

Last reply Today at 10:36 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Laptop Shutting Off When On Battery?

Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.

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arlo

Today at 10:09 AM

A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.

dishstaller

Today at 10:36 AM

arlo said:
That's all I got.

That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks

TRG

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Starlink Router question

I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

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b4pjoe

Saturday at 2:12 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.

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HipKat

Saturday at 11:07 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc

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Foxbat

Sunday at 12:44 AM

TRG said:
…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.

harshness

Sunday at 11:46 AM

If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

Starlink V5 Is Here: What RVers Need to Know

Overview of the new Starlink V5 model along with comparison to the previous V4 model along with a recommended setup for mobile internet users.

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Foxbat

Today at 10:27 AM

Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

I think we could all use a laugh - Rodney Dangerfield on Carson

Good...simple humor. Enjoy

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92AtfTLge4

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Today at 12:37 AM

Not Rodney, but a laugh ...

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dishstaller

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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.

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Last reply Today at 10:17 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

At least 64 dead in Spanish passenger train collision

Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:24 AM

dishstaller said:
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.

dishstaller

Today at 10:17 AM

Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.

The safest seat to sit on in a train

Safety experts have shared top tips on train safety after a fatal railway crash in Spain killed 69 people, including where the safest place is in an emergency.

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