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Last reply Feb 12, 2009 · posted in Glorystar Support Forum

Gamma Testers?

Are we gamma testers or is the system for techies only? I don't mean to be critical as I love the system and can't imagine doing without it. That being said, it's a bit too quirky for me to recommend it across the board. I will list the issues that elderly run-of-the mill citizens can't deal with (issues that other satellite systems don't have). The reason I say gamma testers is that I have hope that solutions may come in the future.

1. Time issues. Auto Adjust is off and Manual Adjust has to be corrected every day or so.
2. Power outage and return turns unit on and resets time to Dec 30, 2007, All Channel list and Auto Time Adjust.
3. Timers when completed leave the receiver on the All Channel list and sometimes the remote doesn't work without an off/on or some other exercise other than the chosen function.
4. Timers having to be set for slight overrun to make up for time errors and USB check.
5. All channels are there some of the time and some channels are there all of the time, but all channels are not there all of the time and most users would not be willing to try LO tuning and etc.
6. Antenna stability and LNBF positioning issues.
7. Hard drive selection critical.
8. Run-of-the mill users wouldn't participate in this forum.

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Glorystar1

Jan 31, 2009

An Open Letter to Elder:

The last 7 months have been a steep learning curve for your introduction to FTA. You approached the purchase of Glorystar Christian satellite service as an equipment choice rather than as most customers who are purchasing purely based on the programming content.

Many of the Satellite Guys have participated in helping you transition from the Dish Network based, Sky Angel to the world of FTA. FTA reception has traditionally been a hobby that only a few in North America have braved due to the lack of information and usual need to understand the basics of satellite technology in order to install a FSS system. What is azimuth, elevation, skew, orbital slots, c-band, ku-band, active transponders, linear polarity, horizontal, vertical, circular left, circular right, 76cm, 90cm, offset, prime focus, line of sight, megahertz, gigaherz, RG59, RG6, standard, universal, DiSEqC, 22KHz, USALS, symbol rate, blind scan, power scan, transponder scan, direct PID entry, etc., etc., etc.

Glorystar is an industry leader and has developed technology and instructions to remove the majority of technical obstacles that could have defeated your abilty and / or interest to install and operate a satellite system to receive Free To Air. Our combined companies have sold over 100,000 FTA systems in the past few years and it has been the rare occasion that have I hear a buyer express any negatives of our efforts to provide a superior free Christian satellite service and products. The majority of purchasers are middle age to senior and most have no issues with the operation of FTA equipment. Traditionaly, one percent of Glorystar customers have a purchased a DVR. We see this trend changing and this is why the majority of our development is into DVRs.

You present yourself as a techie guy in a technical forum and we have provided you advanced information, theory and behind the scenes insight in response your questions. This advanced information is shared in a hobbyist forum and would not be provided to a regular Glorystar viewer. We understood that you were wanting to not only be a Glorystar viewer, but were also a satellite hobbyist wishing to learn, share and help others enjoy the hobby of FTA. As an advanced user, owning and installing your first Free to Air system we value your input.

In reviewing many of your past posts, I understand that dish has not not properly installed and may be the cause of the undesirable movement and signal issues. The channel locking issues may be also related to a receiver defect, which has not yet been sent for testing. We have a choice to either repeatedly post about the issue or take steps to correct the situation.

elder said:
Are we gamma testers or is the system for techies only? I don't mean to be critical as I love the system and can't imagine doing without it. That being said, it's a bit too quirky for me to recommend it across the board. I will list the issues that elderly run-of-the mill citizens can't deal with (issues that other satellite systems don't have). The reason I say gamma testers is that I have hope that solutions may come in the future.

1. Time issues. Auto Adjust is off and Manual Adjust has to be corrected every day or so.

As you are probably aware, manual time settings are rarely accurate on any FTA receiver and most viewers never use the feature (witness all the flash 12:00 displays for the past 20 years on VCRs). I would never run the DVR1100c or the DSR100c in Manual Time mode. Manual time mode relies on the stability of your AC source.

All Glorystar Christian broadcast partners select and contract with their own uplink provider. Most uplinker time settings are hours if not days off and never in sync with UTC or each other. This makes time functions like DVR recording nearly impossible with FTA. Glorystar has developed a unique method of forcing the receiver to ignore the various incorrect times transmitted by each transponder and instead refer to the time generated by our uplinker. We are aware of the often incorrect time provided by our uplinker. Our uplink partner has been working with the encoder manufacturer to correct the UTC time sync issue. We have been assured that a correction will be implemented soon, but until then we ask for your patience! Until the issue is resolved, keep the clock on auto and start the recording a few minutes early.

elder said:
2. Power outage and return turns unit on and resets time to Dec 30, 2007, All Channel list and Auto Time Adjust.

Power outages take most STBs out of the stand-by mode into operate. This will proably always stay this way. We are modifying the unit to reboot to Glorystar Channel 1 and sync time at each reboot. We are working to retain the Favorites List selection through a power outage. We have found that most viewers do not use the Favorites Lists, so this issue has been a low priority. Until a fix can be implemented, may we suggest that the favorites list function be used in the ALL CHANNELS mode with the understanding of the limitations if you set up a favorites lists.

elder said:
3. Timers when completed leave the receiver on the All Channel list and sometimes the remote doesn't work without an off/on or some other exercise other than the chosen function.

Timers developed by this manufacturer only function in the ALL CHANNEL mode. This is related to the Favorites List management. Favorites are sorting methods for managing channels contained in the ALL CHANNEL list. In setting up a timer, the channel to be recorded is selected from the ALL CHANNEL list, so when a recording is completed, it is simply returning to the list associated with the recording function. We are working with the manufcturer to implement a return to previous FAV selection, but this is pushing the envelope of the design....

We are unaware of any remote control issues. We have found that often the unit is in a playback, Time Machine shift, or record mode and the viewer forgets to catch up to real time or stop the record before selecting another mode of operation. Since you have never shared your remote experiences, we are unable to suggest a resolution.

elder said:
4. Timers having to be set for slight overrun to make up for time errors and USB check.

As discussed in a prior thread, you are now having acceptable record USB starts with a proper drive instead of the flash drive. I often miss the start or ending on my TiVo. Programs don't always start or end at the exact time. If the program is important, I have always started any recording device early and extended past the expected stop time. Is this not normal procedure for us who record?

elder said:
5. All channels are there some of the time and some channels are there all of the time, but all channels are not there all of the time and most users would not be willing to try LO tuning and etc.

Several members have made suggestions for a possible fix. Until the dish mount can be stabilized properly or the receiver sent in for bench testing, you may be just optimizing a compromised signal. Additional causes are caused by a customer using existing coax cabling or even local terrestrial RF interference. A local microwave source might be swamping the receiver's front end. You might find that relocating the dish might also solve this issue. This situation is certainly unique.

elder said:
6. Antenna stability and LNBF positioning issues.

The dish appears not to have been anchored correctly and movement in the post plumb will require adjustment in the LNBF skew. Remember, you are exposed to a few customers here in the forum. We speak with hundreds of customers a day. I assure you that this is not such an issue as you perceive. Most install and aim once then walk away and enjoy.

elder said:
7. Hard drive selection critical.

We have recommended twospecific drives on the Glorystar website that have been tested by our staff. This has been done to prevent customer frustration in testing and formatting. Several other compatible models have been verified on this and other sites. Most DVR units have specific drive requirements. You will find that Dish Network and most DTH DVRs also have recommended drives listed on their sites. We are considering offering a DVR package including a drive, but carefully choosing a model with superior customer support and liberal warranty program.

elder said:
8. Run-of-the mill users wouldn't participate in this forum.

We agree. Most customers are not advanced hobbyist and in the unit exceeds the needs of this majority. The majority of viewers would never have the need to obtain or provide assistance through SatelliteGuys, or even be interested!

Glorystar exists to be a ministry support partner for Christian Broadcasters, assist viewers to receive the free Christian channels, and reveal the love and saving grace of Jesus Christ to North America and Asia through the growing satellite ministry!

This is my challenge and your call to action.....

If Free To Air is for you and you are interested in supporting the Glorystar vision of subscription-free Christian channels throughout North America, we invite you to continue to help us develop the experience so people wont be distracted away from the Word by unfriendly technology!

Maybe Free to Air isn't for you. If you are ever not happy with your decision to install Glorystar or distracted by the technology, please give me a call and I will arrange for a return the equipment. We are a Christian company based on principals and integrity. I would rather have you happy with another source of Christian and faith based programming then disappointed with your Glorystar experience!

elder

Jan 31, 2009

Brian,

I know I annoy you with my posts, but I would like to know if anyone else has these crazy problems. I played with LO tuning for over an hour this morning and never was able to get all G25 channels with a single setting. The testing was not even vaguely consistent with last week's testing so I have nothing to report of use to you. This is the third LNBF in the G25 position.

The reason I won't return my system is that I don't want to be without it even though it can be a bit contrary and unpredictable. The antenna mount is OK now with rv1pop's machine screw suggestion, though I may go for a post mount so that it can be closer to the ground for access to the LNBFs. I have only one slot through the trees to the satellite angle so I can't do a total relocation.

I am a retired engineer and worked with the first ever K band TV program transmission via ATS-6, but you are right I have trouble with some of the FTA terminology especially regarding scanning and the manual didn't describe it very well. That being said, I now know that my biggest scanning problem was that the channels I was seeking were not coming in due to my crazy problems (that is, I was scanning for a channel that the DVR couldn't find). That is why I suggested a "loaner" to help resolve crazy problems. I wouldn't say I was on a steep learning curve I have just experienced a number of problems to which at times you seem a bit sensitive.

I did post regarding my remote problem and though it was never resolved (you wanted me to mail it in) I determined and posted my best guess as to what the problem was and that it was not the remote itself and that a soft boot (rear panel off/on) would restore operation, I still do this whenever the remote doesn't evoke the proper DVR response, and it might just help someone else unless I have the only DVR that freezes on occasion.

In all fairness, none of the Glorystar ads say techies only, my concern is if I recommend it to ordinary citizens they will be disappointed unless it is plug and go. I am not trying to start a flame war, but am trying to help and be helped with my observations. It was I who alerted you and VideoReDo about the TS problem and sent them files to help them work with you to resolve it. I am sorry you seemingly think me to be a thorn in the flesh rather than being helpful.

In closing I still think my post about using a refurbished unit as a "loaner" to be a good suggestion.

Glorystar1

Feb 1, 2009

We understand your frustration, but repetitive posting without taking steps to correct a situation does not resolve the issue.

Glorystar is as Plug-n-Play as FTA gets. The average customer takes about 4 or 5 hours to self install and then simply turns the receiver on and off and changes channels.

Glorystar customers don't adjust the LO frequency to bring in channels. This is just an advanced technique that we provided to you on a tech forum to help us trouble shoot if the LNBF LO was at fault.

If the free replacement LNBF that we provided did not correct the problem, then the next resolution step would be to send in the receiver. My only sensitivity is due to the fact that you continue to suggest that the receiver is faulty, yet it is not sent in under warranty for testing. If the unit is faulty, it will be repaired or replaced under warranty.

In conclusion, may I suggest that you perform manual firmware update then a factory reset. Activate in the Glorystar mode, making sure that the Signal Quality readings are above 50% on all channels. Do not enter the menus and leave all settings in automatic. Do not change any menu settings. Observe how the unit performs. If timers do not function or channels do not come in, please drop me an email or give me a call.

Your input is valuable. Thank you for taking the time to care and share!

rv1pop

Feb 2, 2009

Some one else posted this and it solves the ONLY problem I have with the remote --- which sounds like the same one elder is describing: In plain english: hit the remote's dvr stop button first - after any record or playback excercise. The DRV function then stops and the unit becomes a standard STB. Otherwise frustration reigns over me like a cloud of demons --- until I HIT THE STOP BUTTON !

elder

Feb 12, 2009

rv1pop said:
Some one else posted this and it solves the ONLY problem I have with the remote --- which sounds like the same one elder is describing: In plain english: hit the remote's dvr stop button first - after any record or playback excercise. The DRV function then stops and the unit becomes a standard STB. Otherwise frustration reigns over me like a cloud of demons --- until I HIT THE STOP BUTTON !

Thanks for your input. So far it seems to prevent my problem. I always just leave the DVR-1100c on overnight if I have set a timer. Now my first operation in the morning is to hit DVR stop.

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tsunami2311

Last reply 54 minutes ago · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info

OTA signal issues

So I have recently setup Indoor OTA due to drop to Local from Dish, and found out reason why I have such bad signal is my Monitor now none of cable for my monitor near OTA or it cable going to TV, but the TV right above my Monitor maybe not even a foot.

If i have 3 to 2 bars with monitor off said channel for most part of perfectly watchable, but as soon my monitor is ON (show image of desktop or what ever) OTA going to TV halved that 3 to 2 bars become 1 and 2 if I lucky and channels start scrambling alot, and depending on what is being shown on monitor it might out right give no signal, and I can easily restore singal to being bad if change what show on monitor or bring back 3 to 2 bars if I turn monitor off or let it to to standby mode.

I have already disconnect every cable on TV except the OTA cable leaving just that so it not those cable. the Power cable for monitor and DP to DVI cable the monitor is using no where near that OTA cable either.

Any idea on how to fix this? moving my monitor isnt exactly an option neither is moving the tv and moving the OTA to other side room even with long cable dont fix this issue.

I have one those Leaf MoHu antennas 11x3 ones, I had same issue with one gateway mohu antennas the older one too

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comfortably_numb

Sunday at 12:42 PM

Do you have any splitters or combiners in between the antenna and TV? That can cause issues, especially indoors.

I would get that antenna into the attic or outside if at all possible.

And we need your Rabbitears reception report to really be able to provide answers specific to your location-

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tsunami2311

Sunday at 12:48 PM

comfortably_numb said:
Do you have any splitters or combiners in between the antenna and TV? That can cause issues, especially indoors.

I would get that antenna into the attic or outside if at all possible.

And we need your Rabbitears reception report to really be able to provide answers specific to your location-

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RabbitEars, where you can learn all about local, over-the-air TV channels.

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no spilter is just for my tv

https://www.rabbitears.info/searchmap.php?request=result&study_id=2732350

I get I just need to short out the monitor from kill the signal to the tv cause the monitor being on and show image basically castrates signal

I just moved wires around moved power cord away data cord and what not, and some made this issue worse just have my monitor on and show image was enough to just kill signal, I went and moved monitors data cable DP to DVI cable and it came back even if was still spotty at best, now I think it DP to DVI cable I using considering moving seem maninpulate how bad the signal that cable is still no where near OTA cable or any cables going to the tv, the tv and monitor are on the same surge protector though

Jimbo

Sunday at 6:28 PM

tsunami2311 said:
no spilter is just for my tv

https://www.rabbitears.info/searchmap.php?request=result&study_id=2732350

I get I just need to short out the monitor from kill the signal to the tv cause the monitor being on and show image basically castrates signal

I just moved wires around moved power cord away data cord and what not, and some made this issue worse just have my monitor on and show image was enough to just kill signal, I went and moved monitors data cable DP to DVI cable and it came back even if was still spotty at best, now I think it DP to DVI cable I using considering moving seem maninpulate how bad the signal that cable is still no where near OTA cable or any cables going to the tv, the tv and monitor are on the same surge protector though

Are these items all Grounded ?
You haven't defeated them ...
Make sure the outlet is grounded as well, if it's nothten nothing else is.

tsunami2311

Sunday at 10:31 PM

Jimbo said:
Are these items all Grounded ?
You haven't defeated them ...
Make sure the outlet is grounded as well, if it's nothten nothing else is.

Far as i know they are all ground as surge protector is grounded this particular mode APC PV11V3 has wiring/fualt light that should go on if it not grounded and it not on protection light is green and on too . I not very knowledge about all that electrical grounding so i just go by what it tells me, my other surge protecter has grounded light on I could probably just plug to same outlet this one is to see if actual grounded

Monitor has 3 prog power cord the TV is 2 prog

Jim5506 said:
Sounds like there may be some RF coming from your monitor (presumed to be a computer monitor?) being picked up by the TV's proximity to the monitor.
Move the TV or the computer at least 5 ft away.
If it is cabling to monitor it would show up while the computer is on and whether the monitor is off or on.

Sadly moving the monitor (Asus VS248) is not really an option I would have move my entire room which I not about to do. Computer is under desk said monitor is on, but turn the computer off does stop signal from droping so long as monitor is on, as I test that by connecting my ps5 to that and it happened there too

I do know that Moving the DP to DVI cable under desk can and does effect the signal, depending on where that cable is I might have spotty signal or no signal out all with the monitor on. but soon as it is off signal is fine.

The DP to DVI cable is shielded and the coxial cable is a shielded RG6 cable

I will see about moving the monitor 5+ feet way just to see if proximity to tv is issue. but that wont really solve my issue cause moving desk and there for computer and monitor isnt really option

Foxbat said:
Maybe wrap the monitor in aluminum foil? Just as a test to see if it's radiating RFI that's overwhelming the OTA tuner. Obviously not a viable long-term fix.

worth try I see what happen when I get hand on some aluminum foil

Jimbo

Sunday at 11:27 PM

tsunami2311 said:
Far as i know they are all ground as surge protector is grounded this particular mode APC PV11V3 has wiring/fualt light that should go on if it not grounded and it not on protection light is green and on too . I not very knowledge about all that electrical grounding so i just go by what it tells me, my other surge protecter has grounded light on I could probably just plug to same outlet this one is to see if actual grounded

Monitor has 3 prog power cord the TV is 2 prog

Sadly moving the monitor (Asus VS248) is not really an option I would have move my entire room which I not about to do. Computer is under desk said monitor is on, but turn the computer off does stop signal from droping so long as monitor is on, as I test that by connecting my ps5 to that and it happened there too

I do know that Moving the DP to DVI cable under desk can and does effect the signal, depending on where that cable is I might have spotty signal or no signal out all with the monitor on. but soon as it is off signal is fine.

The DP to DVI cable is shielded and the coxial cable is a shielded RG6 cable

I will see about moving the monitor 5+ feet way just to see if proximity to tv is issue. but that wont really solve my issue cause moving desk and there for computer and monitor isnt really option

worth try I see what happen when I get hand on some aluminum foil

So, the TV is Not Grounded ...
I'm interested to see what happens when you move the TV away from the rest ...

tsunami2311

Monday at 11:23 AM

Jimbo said:
So, the TV is Not Grounded ...
I'm interested to see what happens when you move the TV away from the rest ...

TV is fix mounted to wall on metal brackets it can tilt and slide to side that is it it it 8 feet off ground and 55" tv it not getting moved . if it ground issues on TV how how can I fix that? I thought if surge protector is ground so are devices

It TCL 55S515 TV I have 2 of them in house both are 2 prog and most TCL tv I seen are 2 prog maybe there bigge sets are

Triride44 said:
Can you move the Antenna away from the monitor ?

Antenna is 8 feet away from tv I tried put 10 feet way didnt make difference

If I being honest after NHL Stanley Cup games I will probably stop caring and disconnect the OTA anyway cause I dont watch anything on anyway just my mom does and she attenna on here tv that really not much better it just dont have singal halve issue I have but it would be nice if I could fix,

probably the easy fix would be to get Tablo put antenna in attic like dad thinking of doing run coaxial to tablo and let feed tvs that way

Jimbo

Monday at 5:59 PM

tsunami2311 said:
TV is fix mounted to wall on metal brackets it can tilt and slide to side that is it it it 8 feet off ground and 55" tv it not getting moved . if it ground issues on TV how how can I fix that? I thought if surge protector is ground so are devices

It TCL 55S515 TV I have 2 of them in house both are 2 prog and most TCL tv I seen are 2 prog maybe there bigge sets are

Antenna is 8 feet away from tv I tried put 10 feet way didnt make difference

If I being honest after NHL Stanley Cup games I will probably stop caring and disconnect the OTA anyway cause I dont watch anything on anyway just my mom does and she attenna on here tv that really not much better it just dont have singal halve issue I have but it would be nice if I could fix,

probably the easy fix would be to get Tablo put antenna in attic like dad thinking of doing run coaxial to tablo and let feed tvs that way

Well, it's grounded up to the Surge Protector anyways ... but if not 3rd prong, it's not grounded ... I don't recall if my TV's have a ground, guess I never thought about it ...
Now ya got me curious, I got to check.

Well, thats interesting, I thought all TV's were grounded ... guess not, maybe they figure if the voltage gets that far, its not going to save the TV ...

navychop

Monday at 6:33 PM

Double insulated.

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tsunami2311

Yesterday at 11:54 AM

navychop said:
Double insulated.

yes my tv is double insulated. could that be part of my problem?

I dont even get why my monitor and or the DP to DVI cable is causing this the cable is shield for this stuff yet moving that cable obviously effect the ota signal and simple act of that monitor be on cuts single in half, monitor on but in standby mode is fine, as far as i know computer gpu? is still out puting signal to monitor even when the monitor is standby mode it just dont wake up till the mouse or some input moves

aluminum foil over my monitor did stop the issue or even help in the lest

MartyDe

Today at 8:19 AM

tsunami2311 said:
yes my tv is double insulated. could that be part of my problem?

I dont even get why my monitor and or the DP to DVI cable is causing this the cable is shield for this stuff yet moving that cable obviously effect the ota signal and simple act of that monitor be on cuts single in half, monitor on but in standby mode is fine, as far as i know computer gpu? is still out puting signal to monitor even when the monitor is standby mode it just dont wake up till the mouse or some input moves

aluminum foil over my monitor did stop the issue or even help in the lest

Something to try. Using an extension plug the TV into a completely different source of AC. Monitor may be feeding noise back into AC.

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osu1991

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get rid of the monitor and plug the computer into the tv and use it as the monitor

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N5XZS

Last reply Today at 12:49 PM · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info

New low power station with CP has been granted. "Albuquerque "

New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.

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Mr Tony

Today at 12:28 PM

N5XZS said:
This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time

probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations

Get After It Media

www.getafteritmedia.com

Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc

N5XZS

Today at 12:34 PM

Thanks Mr Tony, Hopefully no duplicates and put on like Revin, Karate movies.

It would be nice if they can put a least 2 HD 2 or 3 SD diginets for Albuquerque metro areas.

Mr Tony

Today at 12:40 PM

Here are a few markets with the stations per rabbitears.

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N5XZS

Today at 12:49 PM

Hope they got good subchannels encoder going there...

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Last reply Today at 12:49 PM · posted in TV Shows

THE BOYS are back.

Can't wait!

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Foxbat

May 22, 2026

I was pretty satisfied by the Finale as well. So many multi-season shows come up short, but this one was well done. The whole season has had a pretty high body count (including some of the executive producers

) so the tombstone seemed quite appropriate.

Hopefully the Gen V show sticks around a few more seasons.

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meStevo

May 23, 2026

Foxbat said:
I was pretty satisfied by the Finale as well. So many multi-season shows come up short, but this one was well done. The whole season has had a pretty high body count (including some of the executive producers) so the tombstone seemed quite appropriate.

Hopefully the Gen V show sticks around a few more seasons.

Gen V was cancelled already. The story of The Boys is over, it's on to the prequel now.

All that buildup in their series and they were called useless, retconned and sidelined in the finale.

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May 23, 2026

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MikeD-C05

May 24, 2026

Wow, Jensen Ackles keeps on getting the roles. And that woman is supposed to be Storm Front I take it. I will watch. I like anything he does from Supernatural to Tracker and the Boys. :smug

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meStevo

May 26, 2026

Yeah, Aya Cash returning as Stormfront who was known as Clara Vought / Liberty at that time.

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Today at 12:49 PM

I wanted Butcher and Homelander to share a prison cell upon waking up after the final battle.

Also didn't like the foreshadowing The Deep's ending. They could have done that so much better. Effectively getting tossed into the ocean by Starlight. The sea life coming towards him, he feels comfort, and starts to escape from the battle. The sealife gets a bit nippy, The Deep is confused... it gets harder and harsher and then The Deep understands what is going on. A little bit of a fearful chase would have been warranted to, because The Deep gets off a bit too easy in my opinion (as much as someone can be in such a brutal ending, I suppose). I thinking he is able to outpace things, and finds a large rock to get out of the water. Sealife bickers with him from the water. The Deep tells them he isn't going back in. From behind, a large walrus gets out of the water, shoves him back in and the feeding frenzy ensues.

Overall a decent show. Guilty of deus ex machina in the end. Homelander ending Homelander would have made more sense, and was the direction I thought they were moving in.

I have little interest in a prequel, and a lot more interest in the power vacuum left with Edgers getting back in control and how he would likely use Vought "for good" to get the tentacles back into the system. The entire policing system having been corrupted by Homelander and Vought. The end is like Return of the Jedi, where the Emperor is dead... but umm... what about the entire Empire that still exists?!

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Last reply Today at 12:37 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Gonna Give Her All The Love I've Got - Jimmy Ruffin

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Margaritaville - Jimmy Buffett

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Top Jimmy - Van Halen

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You're the Top - Allan Sherman

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zippyfrog

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 11:01 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

110/119 Listings Post 129 Transition (Updated 6/5/2026)

Over the past year I have been tracking the changes on Western Arc. The past 3 months have had a lot of changes that I posted in the other MPEG2 Western Arc shutdown thread. Now that 129 is (basically) out of commission, here is where Western Arc stands. This is just a national channel list, (no local channels) based off what I can see and what others have contributed. Thanks to everyone who has helped me come up with the locations of some of the channels – I would try and list all of you out, but I know I would forget someone! As has been suggested in other parts of the forum, it would be great to collect the spotbeam data for those who could contribute!

A couple of pieces of info:

Out of the 64 transponders between 110/119, there are currently 50 transponders that Dish is licensed to use. 22 are Spotbeams, 28 are ConUS transponders (14 transponders are licensed to DirecTV and Dish doesn't have access to them)
Those 28 ConUS transponders are divided as follows:
- 10 are dedicated to National HD channels (ESPN, CNN, Disney Channel, etc). Dish is maxing out at 16 HD channels per transponder (note – in an earlier post I said there was one transponder with 17 HD channels, that was an error on my part. When I double checked my listings, one channel changed transponders). Before the transition, there was a maximum of 14 HD channels per transponder.
- 1 transponder is dedicated to adult content
- 2 are a mixture HD PPV Movies/4k channels
- 3 are set aside for HD Sports channels that are only on for live games (NBA League Pass, the PAC 12 alternate channels, some PPV events, etc); 3 SD PPV Sports Channels are there as well.
- 7 are for SD and/or music channels. Dish is maxing out at 26 SD channels per transponder thus far on the SD transponders.
- 5 transponders on 110 I have no channels listed but Dish operates. (they are labeled as ConUS on my chart below) There are other things that could be on those transponders, like RV Distant Networks, internal testing channels, etc, that I can't see. They might be able to be used for additional content, but I am not sure exactly what is on those transponders.

There are two transponders that have lower than normal SD channels – 110, TP 21 and 119, TP 19. Previously those transponders contained the programming guides that get downloaded from the satellite when the receivers download EPG. I assume that is where the programming guides are still downloaded from, thus less channels there.

When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.

Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:

During this migration from 129, Dish converted 7 ConUS transponders on 119 into Spotbeams – that is how they ended up fitting on all the HD locals that used to be on 129. (for those interested, TP 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 are the ones that used to be ConUS on 119 that are now Spotbeam)
Removed almost all SD duplicate channels that are offered in HD
Converted remaining SD channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4
There are also 2 subtle things that changed from the HD channel perspective
- At the beginning of the transition, Dish decreased the number of PPV Movie channels – prior to this transition the PPV channels HD PPV movies were 502-522; now they are 502-517.
- At the beginning of April when MLB, NBA, and NHL regular seasons were all going on at the same time and this transition began, there were a ton of games "joined in progress" for the HD feeds. That wasn't common since the days before the full time HD RSN's. The reason for that was prior to the transition, Dish had 4 transponders set aside for HD Sports – 2 transponders was the bandwidth set aside from the HD RSN's before Dish dropped the RSN's, then 2 transponders were for alternate channels. Now we are down to 3 transponders for HD sports.

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zippyfrog

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Updated the first couple of posts with the listings of the changes.

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RJT79

Yesterday at 4:56 PM

zippyfrog said:
Over the past year I have been tracking the changes on Western Arc. The past 3 months have had a lot of changes that I posted in the other MPEG2 Western Arc shutdown thread. Now that 129 is (basically) out of commission, here is where Western Arc stands. This is just a national channel list, (no local channels) based off what I can see and what others have contributed. Thanks to everyone who has helped me come up with the locations of some of the channels – I would try and list all of you out, but I know I would forget someone! As has been suggested in other parts of the forum, it would be great to collect the spotbeam data for those who could contribute!

A couple of pieces of info:

Out of the 64 transponders between 110/119, there are currently 50 transponders that Dish is licensed to use. 22 are Spotbeams, 28 are ConUS transponders (14 transponders are licensed to DirecTV and Dish doesn't have access to them)

Those 28 ConUS transponders are divided as follows:

10 are dedicated to National HD channels (ESPN, CNN, Disney Channel, etc). Dish is maxing out at 16 HD channels per transponder (note – in an earlier post I said there was one transponder with 17 HD channels, that was an error on my part. When I double checked my listings, one channel changed transponders). Before the transition, there was a maximum of 14 HD channels per transponder.

1 transponder is dedicated to adult content

2 are a mixture HD PPV Movies/4k channels

3 are set aside for HD Sports channels that are only on for live games (NBA League Pass, the PAC 12 alternate channels, some PPV events, etc); 3 SD PPV Sports Channels are there as well.

7 are for SD and/or music channels. Dish is maxing out at 26 SD channels per transponder thus far on the SD transponders.

5 transponders on 110 I have no channels listed but Dish operates. (they are labeled as ConUS on my chart below) There are other things that could be on those transponders, like RV Distant Networks, internal testing channels, etc, that I can't see. They might be able to be used for additional content, but I am not sure exactly what is on those transponders.

There are two transponders that have lower than normal SD channels – 110, TP 21 and 119, TP 19. Previously those transponders contained the programming guides that get downloaded from the satellite when the receivers download EPG. I assume that is where the programming guides are still downloaded from, thus less channels there.

When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.

Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:

During this migration from 129, Dish converted 7 ConUS transponders on 119 into Spotbeams – that is how they ended up fitting on all the HD locals that used to be on 129. (for those interested, TP 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 are the ones that used to be ConUS on 119 that are now Spotbeam)

Removed almost all SD duplicate channels that are offered in HD

Converted remaining SD channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4

There are also 2 subtle things that changed from the HD channel perspective

At the beginning of the transition, Dish decreased the number of PPV Movie channels – prior to this transition the PPV channels HD PPV movies were 502-522; now they are 502-517.

At the beginning of April when MLB, NBA, and NHL regular seasons were all going on at the same time and this transition began, there were a ton of games "joined in progress" for the HD feeds. That wasn't common since the days before the full time HD RSN's. The reason for that was prior to the transition, Dish had 4 transponders set aside for HD Sports – 2 transponders was the bandwidth set aside from the HD RSN's before Dish dropped the RSN's, then 2 transponders were for alternate channels. Now we are down to 3 transponders for HD sports.

I appreciate you doing all of this. With me having DISH Outdoors this is excellent for when I travel and have to get other locals. Also what does this mean for the 61.5 satellite?

My home locals come out of Springfield/Decatur/Champaign, IL.
I too have taken noticed they moved to the 110 satellite with the spotbeam of 27. Signal Strength is between 46-47. When they were on 119 satellite I was getting about 43-44 signal strength. Much improvement!

Also my post about MLB Extra Innings. I think it may be due to this transition of satellites between 110 & 119
MLB Extra Innings use to be on 110 Satellite. On my guide it only lists 476-01 Baltimore Orioles but I clicked on it and it says its on Satellite 119 with Transponder 13. Maybe this is the reason for my troubles! Shouldn't of fried my DISH though! DISH owes me LOL! Like I will really see it.

RJ T.
From Illinois

RJ T.
From Illinois

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zippyfrog

Yesterday at 5:00 PM

RJT79 said:
I appreciate you doing all of this. With me having DISH Outdoors this is excellent for when I travel and have to get other locals. Also what does this mean for the 61.5 satellite?

My home locals come out of Springfield/Decatur/Champaign, IL.
I too have taken noticed they moved to the 110 satellite with the spotbeam of 27. Signal Strength is between 46-47. When they were on 119 satellite I was getting about 43-44 signal strength. Much improvement!

Also my post about MLB Extra Innings. I think it may be due to this transition of satellites between 110 & 119
MLB Extra Innings use to be on 110 Satellite. On my guide it only lists 476-01 Baltimore Orioles but I clicked on it and it says its on Satellite 119 with Transponder 13. Maybe this is the reason for my troubles! Shouldn't of fried my DISH though! DISH owes me LOL! Like I will really see it.

RJ T.
From Illinois

RJ T.
From Illinois

I just saw your response and posted on the other thread! In terms of 61.5, I don't have Eastern Arc, and my friend who I used to get Eastern Arc info from no longer has Dish.

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RJT79

Yesterday at 5:11 PM

zippyfrog said:
I just saw your response and posted on the other thread! In terms of 61.5, I don't have Eastern Arc, and my friend who I used to get Eastern Arc info from no longer has Dish.

That is okay. Its just when I sometimes go east the locals there are on 61.5 and sometimes have to use it. It will be great to only have to use the 110 & 119 satellite. No reason to use the 61.5 unless there is a problem receiving 119 there and most of the time at least for me it doesn't seem to be an issue. Maybe more up in the very northeast part of the US.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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Tampa8

Today at 11:01 AM

zippyfrog said:
Updated the first couple of posts with the listings of the changes.

Appreciate your doing this!

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 10:14 AM · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

SatelliteGuys Fund Raiser

As you may have noticed we are doing a Fund Raiser for SatelliteGuys!

As many of you know I have been paying for a majority of the operation of the site out of my own pocket for awhile now. Now looking at things we have a number of renewals coming up that I could use some help with. These renewals include the license renewal for our Forum Software, Renewal of a number of our add on's the site uses, renewal of domain names etc.

I have set a goal of $400.00 - any extra that comes in will just go to fund the operations of the site. None of the money will go to me (I tried BuyMeACoffee a few months ago, and they denied me saying they do not do business with Satellite Piracy sites... which we are not... hell we host the beta programs for both DISH and DIRECTV here...)

Anyways... if you would like to help out please click the link below.

SatelliteGuys Maintenance Fund Raiser

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Yesterday at 8:19 PM

I planned on removing it today, but then my fathers car broke down and I had to drive him all around to get his stuff done. Then I had a doctors appointment after that which was annoying...

Dr asks me if I have had any changes, so I tell him something wrong with me that started a month or so ago and his reply back is, that it sucks to get old... I hate that. Why ask me. if your going to come back with a smart ass answer.

Anyays I hope to get rid of Tapatalk tomorrow.

And we had more people donate today, thank you! The extra money is going to future expenses since things like add ons don't expire at the same time.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU AGAIN!

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Yesterday at 10:58 PM

Scott Greczkowski said:
Anyays I hope to get rid of Tapatalk tomorrow.

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Yesterday at 11:26 PM

Yeah, dr's...joint pain? Your joints are wearing out. It hurts when I do this...don't do that

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Today at 7:58 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
Dr asks me if I have had any changes, so I tell him something wrong with me that started a month or so ago and his reply back is, that it sucks to get old

No excuse for a flippant response like that from a doctor! I'd be looking for a different one.

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Today at 9:10 AM

Tapatalk has been removed.

I have added a new feature which is a work in progress called "Social Feed" which displays the forums Facebook style. Its nice for people who like that, but needs work. But i have been watching this one for awhile and the author is being really responsive to suggestions and adding them. So if you have any please let me know and I can pass them along.

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 9:28 AM · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Tapatalk Removed

Due to security concerns and the fact that the Tapatalk Plugin for Xenforo is no longer being updated we have removed Tapatalk support from SatelliteGuys.

For those who were using it we recommend using our PWA App instead which is faster and does not have all the spam Tapatalk had. Below is a graphic showing how to add SatelliteGuys to your devices home screen. (While iOS is shown the process is mostly the same for Android.)

Thanks for your understanding.

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Today at 9:28 AM

Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…

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