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SatelliteGuys.US DishNetwork Uplink Activity Report - 2/25/2009 2:28pm - 84 changes

Uplink Comparison Range: 02/25/2009 01:57P - 02/25/2009 02:28P

Channel Additions:
5151(3) - WISC [MPEG4 HD] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 05 Area 4 beam (NA)(Madison, WI-CBS)
5161(12) - WKRC [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar8 77W TP 04 ConUS beam (NA)(Cincinnati, OH-CBS)
5170(24) - WPTY [MPEG4 HD] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 05 Area 9 beam (NA)(Memphis, TN-ABC)
5223(44) - KWKT [MPEG4 HD] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 11 Area 3 beam (NA)(Waco, TX-FOX)
5250(40) - KHBS [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 03 Spotbeam 37 (NA)(Fort Smith, AR-ABC)
5250(8) - KJCT [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 06 Spotbeam 19 (NA)(Grand Junction, CO-ABC)
5251(5) - KFSM [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 03 Spotbeam 37 (NA)(Fort Smith, AR-CBS)
5251(5) - KREX [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 06 Spotbeam 19 (NA)(Grand Junction, CO-CBS)
5252(11) - KKCO [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 06 Spotbeam 19 (NA)(Grand Junction, CO-NBC)
5252(51) - KNWA [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 03 Spotbeam 37 (NA)(Rogers, AR-NBC)
5253(24) - KFTA [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 03 Spotbeam 37 (NA)(Fort Smith, AR-NBC)
5253(4) - KFQX [MPEG4 HD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 06 Spotbeam 19 (NA)(Grand Junction, CO-FOX)
6132 - HTBA [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 14 ConUS beam (A) (H)
6133 - RTVI [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 14 ConUS beam (A) (H)
7524(26) - KTEND [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar10 110W TP 20 Spotbeam 21 (NA)(Ada, OK-NBC)
7524(26) - KTEND [MPEG4 SD] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 01 Area 3 beam (NA)(Ada, OK-NBC)
8386(14) - KETH [MPEG4 SD] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 13 Area 3 beam (NA)(Houston, TX-TRIN)
9646(99) - ASCC [MPEG2 SD] added to EchoStar11 110W TP 10 ConUS beam (NA)
36853 - DNL12 [143] added to EchoStar9 121W TP 21 ConUS beam (A)

Channel Removals:
374 - SMITH (A) removed from Ciel-2 129W TP 17 ConUS beam
374 - SMITH (A) removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam
539 - HDPPV (A) removed from Echostar6 72.7W TP 17 ConUS beam
548 - HDPPV (A) removed from EchoStar8 77W TP 32 ConUS beam
620 - GEOTV (A) (H) removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam
4274 - SMITH (A) (H) removed from Ciel-2 129W TP 17 ConUS beam
4274 - SMITH (A) (H) removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam
5371 - SMITH (A) (H) removed from Ciel-2 129W TP 17 ConUS beam
5371 - SMITH (A) (H) removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam
5995 - INFO (NA) removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 02 ConUS beam
5998 - INFO4 (NA) removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 21 ConUS beam
5999 - INFO5 (NA) removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 21 ConUS beam
6102 - GEOTV (A) (H) removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 29 ConUS beam
7026 - KIDZ (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 31 ConUS beam(Abilene, TX-N/A)
7027 - KPCB (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 31 ConUS beam(Snyder, TX-N/A)
7028 - KTES (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 31 ConUS beam
8504 - WOCK (A) (H) removed from EchoStar10 110W TP 31 Spotbeam 19 (Chicago, IL-N/A)
8504 - WOCK (A) (H) removed from Echostar12 61.5W TP 09 Area 4 beam(Chicago, IL-N/A)
9450 - INFO5 (NA) removed from EchoStar11 110W TP 02 ConUS beam

Channel Moves:
539 - HDPPV [MPEG4 HD] moved from EchoStar11 110W TP 13 ConUS beam to Ciel-2 129W TP 31 ConUS beam (A)
539 - HDPPV [MPEG4 HD] moved from EchoStar11 110W TP 13 ConUS beam to EchoStar8 77W TP 32 ConUS beam (A)
548 - HDPPV [MPEG4 HD] moved from Ciel-2 129W TP 31 ConUS beam to EchoStar11 110W TP 13 ConUS beam (A)
548 - HDPPV [MPEG4 HD] moved from Ciel-2 129W TP 31 ConUS beam to Echostar6 72.7W TP 17 ConUS beam (A)
592 - RTVI [MPEG2 SD] moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 14 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam (A)
594 - HTBA [MPEG2 SD] moved from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 14 ConUS beam to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam (A)
5180 - WRTV [MPEG4 HD] moved from Ciel-2 129W TP 05 Spotbeam 24 to EchoStar5 129W TP 05 ConUS beam (NA)(Indianapolis, IN-ABC)
5181 - WISH [MPEG4 HD] moved from Ciel-2 129W TP 05 Spotbeam 24 to EchoStar5 129W TP 05 ConUS beam (NA)(Indianapolis, IN-CBS)
5182 - WTHR [MPEG4 HD] moved from Ciel-2 129W TP 05 Spotbeam 24 to EchoStar5 129W TP 05 ConUS beam (NA)(Indianapolis, IN-NBC)
5183 - WXIN [MPEG4 HD] moved from Ciel-2 129W TP 05 Spotbeam 24 to EchoStar5 129W TP 05 ConUS beam (NA)(Indianapolis, IN-FOX)
8042 - WBRZ [MPEG2 SD] moved from EchoStar11 110W TP 02 ConUS beam to EchoStar10 110W TP 25 Spotbeam 12 (NA)(Baton Rouge, LA-ABC)

Channel Package Flag Changes:
128 - WE [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar7 119W TP 12 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
128 - WE [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar6 72.7W TP 15 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
151 - VS. [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 01 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
151 - VS. [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar6 72.7W TP 05 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
174 - DISXD [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar7 119W TP 06 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
174 - DISXD [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar6 72.7W TP 05 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
191 - G4 [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar11 110W TP 05 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
191 - G4 [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar6 72.7W TP 15 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
5250(19) - WKPT [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 11 Spotbeam 31 changed to Available (H)(Kingsport, TN-ABC)
5250(4) - WCIV [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 09 Spotbeam 44 changed to Available (H)(Charleston, SC-ABC)
5250(7) - KVIA [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 11 Spotbeam 46 changed to Available (H)(El Paso, TX-ABC)
5251(11) - WJHL [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 11 Spotbeam 31 changed to Available (H)(Johnson City, TN-CBS)
5251(4) - KDBC [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 11 Spotbeam 46 changed to Available (H)(El Paso, TX-CBS)
5251(5) - WCSC [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 09 Spotbeam 44 changed to Available (H)(Charleston, SC-CBS)
5252(2) - WCBD [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 09 Spotbeam 44 changed to Available (H)(Charleston, SC-NBC)
5252(5) - WCYB [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 11 Spotbeam 31 changed to Available (H)(Bristol, VA-NBC)
5252(9) - KTSM [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 11 Spotbeam 46 changed to Available (H)(El Paso, TX-NBC)
5253(14) - KFOX [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 11 Spotbeam 46 changed to Available (H)(El Paso, TX-FOX)
5253(24) - WTAT [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 09 Spotbeam 44 changed to Available (H)(Charleston, SC-FOX)
5253(39) - WEMT [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 11 Spotbeam 31 changed to Available (H)(Greeneville, TN-FOX)
5260(22) - WJCL [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 11 Spotbeam 44 changed to Available (H)(Savannah, GA-ABC)
5260(27) - WTXL [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 14 Spotbeam 51 changed to Available (H)(Tallahassee, FL-ABC)
5261(11) - WTOC [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 11 Spotbeam 44 changed to Available (H)(Savannah, GA-CBS)
5261(6) - WCTV [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 14 Spotbeam 51 changed to Available (H)(Thomasville, GA-CBS)
5262(3) - WSAV [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 11 Spotbeam 44 changed to Available (H)(Savannah, GA-NBC)
5262(40) - WTWC [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 14 Spotbeam 51 changed to Available (H)(Tallahassee, FL-NBC)
5263(28) - WTGS [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 11 Spotbeam 44 changed to Available (H)(Hardeeville, SC-FOX)
5263(49) - WTLH [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 14 Spotbeam 51 changed to Available (H)(Bainbridge, GA-FOX)
6506(23) - KOKI [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar7 119W TP 01 Central Plains beam changed to Available (H)(Tulsa, OK-FOX)
8523(47) - WOAC [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar10 110W TP 31 Spotbeam 09 changed to Available (H)(Canton, OH-N/A)
8523(47) - WOAC [MPEG4 SD] - Echostar12 61.5W TP 01 Area 4 beam changed to Available (H)(Canton, OH-N/A)
9449(174) - DISXD [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 26 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
9449(174) - DISXD [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 25 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
9466(151) - VS. [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 29 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)
9466(151) - VS. [MPEG4 HD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 16 ConUS beam changed package flags (A)

Channels in the system: 6497
(A) = Available to subscribers
(NA) = Not Available
(H) = Hidden from non-subscribers
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Roxor
I couldn't get a lock on the old 129, so that is why I had to get 61.5 for HD. So, does that mean no Indianapolis locals in HD for me?
mperdue
I couldn't get a lock on the old 129, so that is why I had to get 61.5 for HD. So, does that mean no Indianapolis locals in HD for me?
I'm in the same boat as you. Why would Indianapolis not be part of Eastern Arc?

Mario
L
I'm in the same boat as you. Why would Indianapolis not be part of Eastern Arc?

Mario

If there is no eastern arc spot beam that covers the Indy DMA, it can't be on the eastern arc. There are markets to the east if Indy that are also western arc markets. Maybe they will end up on the eastern arc anyway since they've pulled them today. Who knows what's going on. The eastern arc is kludged together with old satellites with beams not necessarily designed for bringing LiLs to the eastern half of the U.S. Ciel 2 was designed to provide spots for all areas of the U.S. from its current location. Once E* designs and launches a counterpart to Ciel 2 for the eastern arc, things will change in all likelihood.
mperdue
If there is no eastern arc spot beam that covers the Indy DMA, it can't be on the eastern arc. There are markets to the east if Indy that are also western arc markets. Maybe they will end up on the eastern arc anyway since they've pulled them today. Who knows what's going on. The eastern arc is kludged together with old satellites with beams not necessarily designed for bringing LiLs to the eastern half of the U.S. Ciel 2 was designed to provide spots for all areas of the U.S. from its current location. Once E* designs and launches a counterpart to Ciel 2 for the eastern arc, things will change in all likelihood.
That's a nice theory but I don't see anything on spot beams from the Eastern Arc. Also, South Bend, Gary, Elkhart and Salem in Indiana are all on Eastern Arc.

Mario
L
That's a nice theory but I don't see anything on spot beams from the Eastern Arc. Also, South Bend, Gary, Elkhart and Salem in Indiana are all on Eastern Arc.

Mario

All the LiLs on 61.5 are spot beamed. The 77 satellite is doing ConUS locals because it lacks spots. ConUS is the most inefficient way of delivering locals imagineable. Also just because nearby markets are on a particular satellite doesn't mean your market will also be. There could be insufficient transponder space or the spot beam might not cover the DMA.
mperdue
All the LiLs on 61.5 are spot beamed. The 77 satellite is doing ConUS locals because it lacks spots. ConUS is the most inefficient way of delivering locals imagineable. Also just because nearby markets are on a particular satellite doesn't mean your market will also be. There could be insufficient transponder space or the spot beam might not cover the DMA.
OK, I grant you that I read the list wrong but I still find it hard to believe that there isn't space. Wasn't that the main point of doing the Eastern Arc to begin with.?
L
OK, I grant you that I read the list wrong but I still find it hard to believe that there isn't space. Wasn't that the main point of doing the Eastern Arc to begin with.?

The reason for eastern arc was that there were areas on the east coast not able to be served from the western arc location without a great deal of difficulty or at all. It also provides another position for programming for potential subs with line of sight problems. It also utilizes older satellites that would otherwise end up being space junk if not put to use. Although E6? (61.5) has spot beams it wasn't designed to be the spot beam monster that 129 is. I think it also has some technical issues that keep it from operating at 100% capacity. E1 is moving from 148 to the eastern arc to serve up some more locals, I think, and maybe also do some Dish Mexico service. Even though Ciel 2 (129W) has coverage for most of the U.S., it still doesn't have the capacity to provide locals to every market. There is a new satellite planned for the eastern arc that should increase capacity. I think it is a big spot beam bus like 129W but I'm not sure. Why is being on eastern arc so important? I'm in Central IL and there are people west of me on the eastern arc and I couldn't care less. If I had a choice of arcs, I would want the western arc as its satellites are newer; E11 at 110W and Ciel 2 at 129W are brand new within the last year and have very strong signals.
R
I wish Dish would have used Spotbeam 19 for Colorado Springs DMA, as well as Grand Junction and Denver.
L
I wish Dish would have used Spotbeam 19 for Colorado Springs DMA, as well as Grand Junction and Denver.

Then the SE part of the DMA would have been left out, wouldn't it?
R
Yes, but the more heavily populated areas around northern Colorado Springs would be better covered.
mperdue
Why is being on eastern arc so important? I'm in Central IL and there are people west of me on the eastern arc and I couldn't care less. If I had a choice of arcs, I would want the western arc as its satellites are newer; E11 at 110W and Ciel 2 at 129W are brand new within the last year and have very strong signals.
Gee, if everyone lived in your house there wouldn't be a problem. Fortunately we all have our own homes in different parts of the country and some of us can't receive 129 for various reasons. It doesn't make any difference how new the satellite is if you can get a dish aimed at it.
C
INDY HD locals

I couldn't get a lock on the old 129, so that is why I had to get 61.5 for HD. So, does that mean no Indianapolis locals in HD for me?

I had the same problem in Nashville, IN. The tech disconnected my 129 from my dish 1000 and added a wing dish at 61.5 --- now HD locals are on new 129? Called Dish Tech and they said they'd fix it when they became available?? Can't wait and we'll see if they "fix it" for free.

Chuck in Nashville
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Take It Easy On Me - Little River Band
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TAKE IT As It Comes-The Doors
ClarkGable
Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
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harshness
Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
The two instances of "The" should have been highlighted.

Take
Me to the River - Talking Heads
dishstaller
Blinded By The Light - Manfred Mann's Earth Band
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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They ought to have fun with this… :devilish
osu1991
They ought to have fun with this… :devilish
Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll call
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
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Foxbat
Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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Peter Parker
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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bookworm370
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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R
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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Foxbat
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Here's the one I need:
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dishstaller
Here's the one I need:
Just ordered one....that's great.
jsmit86
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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My year was almost up and we got the new bill for a year of service for $ 360.00 insane sat radio is becoming like cable!!! i logged into my acct and hopped onto chat and told the rep that i wanted to cancel. she understood my concern and went quiet for a few minutes. i figured that she was canceling my service. she comes back and said that she seen that i have been a sub since 07 and then offers me the same package for a year for 120.00 with taxes and fee's!!! i grabbed it. after almost having a stroke :biggrin
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Foxbat
Well, that was a waste of effort. Our new Cadillac comes with a three-month free trial. Good that it's free, bad that I'll have to go through the Cancellation Dance all over again…
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N6BY
Well, that was a waste of effort. Our new Cadillac comes with a three-month free trial. Good that it's free, bad that I'll have to go through the Cancellation Dance all over again…
I just bought a Ram 1500 truck with a 3 month free trial. What to do when it ends?

All I want is music and news, but it is listed for $11.99 + $5.00 more for news. But $16.99 per month isn't worth it to me.
comfortably_numb
What to do when it ends?

Ask for the "All Access Plan" for $5/month.
harshness
Ask for the "All Access Plan" for $5/month.
Since the agents are now AI, you keep refusing the offer until you can justify the cost.
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What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $4.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
Jimbo
What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
Jimbo
Since the agents are now AI, you keep refusing the offer until you can justify the cost.
Not entirely true ...
If you ask for a Human, you'll get one ...
You will definitely know when you do.
S
Not entirely true ...
If you ask for a Human, you'll get one ...
You will definitely know when you do.
Don't you mean phone sex operators:biggrin
Jimbo
Don't you mean phone sex operators:biggrin
Is That why you keep SXM ??? :biggrin
B
Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
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TRG
I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
B
I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
Jimbo
yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
You get an email every month to let you know they are billing you for the next month.
Foxbat
Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango💃🏽

The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
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Jimbo
Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango💃🏽

The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
I forgot you can pay that with Ford Pass points, I won't be due again till Feb, but I'll have to remember to try it ... Not sure what needs to be done, but I do have a substantial amount of points currently.
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Is That why you keep SXM ??? :biggrin
when i say cancel. they give the moon and stars!!! iv'e gotten free radios and a free month once since it was my bday ;).
osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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meStevo

Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
harshness
The EV company to watch out for is SAIC. They seem likely to take over Government Motors at some point.

GM originally struck a JV deal with SAIC to gain access to China. Now SAIC has taken China back with the substantial library of technology GM shared and they're looking to export to Mexico, South America, the Middle East, and Asia-Pacific.
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harshness
If it weren't for the sky-high electricity prices...

Of course, the real scare with Winter coming is the insane cost of heating oil.
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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dishstaller
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

Last night it was about $4.17 gas, $6,19 diesel.
harshness
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.
On the West Coast, a 40-cent differential is common. It used to be 30 cents before the prices rose above $3.

A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic), which is a whole different discussion.
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Foxbat
Here in Indiana, the difference between Regular and Premium is usually a dollar, but some charge even more:
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dishstaller
A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic),
Both non-ethanol and prem run about the same....buck more. When we were up in TN it was a buck more up there as well.
harshness
In Oregon, our premium boat gas is about a dollar more than our corn premium. Several stations only offer the non-corn premium grade.
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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dishdude
They didn't sell many, they were pricey and not out long. Quickly got replaced by the Hopper.
T
They were high-end specialty, somewhat buggy and the 612/622/722 just overwhelmed it in popularity.
HipKat
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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AZ.
AZ.
Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
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teachsac
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.


View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/b0gPzA8KHEQ
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TRG
TRG
Pass,
K
Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.
teachsac
Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.
Scott Greczkowski
Wife likes it.