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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Hi y'all!

I need both hardware and programming advice and hope you can help since many of you know DISH in and out. I have been with DISH for 10.5 years, am not currently under a contract, and have 2 VIP 622s operating 4 HD TVS but the programming on 2 is SD, of course. (grrrrr)

Right now I am paying $115.98 plus tax for:

DishDVR Advantage Classic Silver 200 $57.99
4 Premium Package $40.00
Locals $5.99
DVR $12.00

My understanding is that the Premium Package I am paying for includes HBO, Gold HD, Platinum HD and I am not sure what else. I also started getting the Cinemax for a penny deal last month.

Is there a less expensive, more efficient way to package this?

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Secondly, and more importantly, one of my VIP622 receivers bit the dust yesterday. Dish says they will send me a new/refurbished one for $14.95 which covers 2nd day UPS. I asked about upgrading to the 722K which I see on the 'offers' page for $75 and the CSR said that doesn't have the antenna and the price would be $104.99 with a 2 year commitment. After I got off the phone with him, I looked at the specs again and it clearly says that the 722K includes 1 ATSC antenna input for off-air digital/HD broadcasts and the price is $75.00. (I guess the CSR was adding 29.99 for that feature, incorrectly)

Next, he goes and talks to a supervisor and says that if I sign the 2 year agreement, they'll give it to me free. Are they kidding me? To save $75? Keep in mind that averaging a $75 monthly DISH bill, I have paid them about $9500 over the years, just on programming. (not counting the old days when we had to BUY the equipment)

Since they don't have the limited HD receivers rule any more, I was thinking about adding a 612 to put in one of the bedrooms that currently is receiving the SD signal from one of my 622s. Again, on the offers page, this is listed as $75 installed. The CSR said that I would have to put that on a 2nd ticket from the 1st.

As a long-time customer, I have 'moved' a few times, played CSR roulette and been on these forums for years but I could really use some help as far as what number to call and what to ask for from whom.

In an ideal world, I would be willing to sign the 2 year contract if they give me the 722 and 612 free including installation on the bedroom for the 612,and oh, a $20 credit on my bill for 12 months. Does that sound reasonable? I already have HD DIrecTV in two rooms but we only activate it from April to October in order to get the MLB package. I would hope that would give me a bit of bargaining power since I could have what I have on DISH now with a simple phone call to DirectTV, no fuss, no muss.

THoughts? advice? Suggestions?

THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT!
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osu1991
You are mixing up the 722 and the 722K. The 722 has a single atsc tuner in the receiver. The 722k does NOT have a built in atsc tuner. You have to purchase it separate and install it in the back of the receiver, and this module is dual atsc tuners.

I would get 211 hd boxes and pay the $40 activation fee for the external hard drive support and add my own external hard drives turning the 211's into single tuner HD dvrs with no dvr fees. The 612 will ding you for another dvr fee and the 612 is still a buggy receiver.
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This is what it says about the 722K on the website.

RECEIVER FEATURES
REAR PANEL CONNECTIONS
[FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light][FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light]• 2 satellite tuner inputs
• 1 UHF Pro remote control antenna input for
included antenna
• Optional over-the-air module with 1ATSC antenna input that provides 2 digital broadcast tuners and a channel 3/4 modulated output
• 1 ATSC antenna input for off-air digital/HD broadcasts
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[/FONT][FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light][FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light]
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[/FONT][FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light][FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light]• 1 telephone jack (for installation)
• 1 USB 2.0 port (Archos/external hard drive compatible)
• 1 Ethernet port (for installation)
• 3-prong power cord
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This is what is says about the 722.

RECEIVER FEATURES
REAR PANEL CONNECTIONS
[FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light][FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light]• 2 satellite tuner inputs
• 1 UHF Pro remote control antenna input for
included antenna
• 1 ATSC antenna input for off-air digital/HD broadcasts
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[/FONT][FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light][FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light]3
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[/FONT][FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light][FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light]• 1 telephone jack
• 1 USB 2.0 port (PocketDISH compatible)
• 1 Ethernet port (for future use)
• 3-prong power cord
[/FONT]
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I see what you are saying but now you can understand my confusion, I hope. So you think I should just lease a 211 from DISH and purchase an external hard drive after paying the 40 bucks instead of getting the 612, right? Is the recording to the hard drive seamless, the way it is on the DVR?

I could do that and just swap out my 622 for 14.95, I guess....


You are mixing up the 722 and the 722K. The 722 has a single atsc tuner in the receiver. The 722k does NOT have a built in atsc tuner. You have to purchase it separate and install it in the back of the receiver, and this module is dual atsc tuners.

I would get 211 hd boxes and pay the $40 activation fee for the external hard drive support and add my own external hard drives turning the 211's into single tuner HD dvrs with no dvr fees. The 612 will ding you for another dvr fee and the 612 is still a buggy receiver.
osu1991
AEP includes all dvr fees
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I called and looked into the AEP after your comment. While I wouldnt have the DVR fees, I'd have to pay $20 on top of the existing customer price to get the two HD packages so my bill would run about 20 more each month.

They took off the locals charge and credited me as it shouldn't have been there in the first place.

I decided just to get the replacement 622 for now and they are sending it for free, not even shipping, since I am on Autopay.


AEP includes all dvr fees
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j8.
You may also may want ck your phone co.. i did hear i got internet and phone dish in a package deal its veary resonable here i ended up saving about 40 bucks a month
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I don't know what pricing your are looking at, but with two 622's and AEP it would be:
AEP $57.98
Receiver Lease Fee $7.00
GoldHD, PlatinumHD
and 4 Premiums $60.00
Encore Movie Pack Included
DVR Fees Free
DHPP (W/24 m cmt) Free

for a total of 124.98 - only about 9 bucks more than you are paying now, for a lot more.
jwgreen68
This is what it says about the 722K on the website.

RECEIVER FEATURES
REAR PANEL CONNECTIONS
[FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light][FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light]• 2 satellite tuner inputs
• 1 UHF Pro remote control antenna input for
included antenna
• Optional over-the-air module with 1ATSC antenna input that provides 2 digital broadcast tuners and a channel 3/4 modulated output
• 1 ATSC antenna input for off-air digital/HD broadcasts
[/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light][FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light]
[/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light][FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light]• 1 telephone jack (for installation)
• 1 USB 2.0 port (Archos/external hard drive compatible)
• 1 Ethernet port (for installation)
• 3-prong power cord
[/FONT]
[/FONT]
This is what is says about the 722.

RECEIVER FEATURES
REAR PANEL CONNECTIONS
[FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light][FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light]• 2 satellite tuner inputs
• 1 UHF Pro remote control antenna input for
included antenna
• 1 ATSC antenna input for off-air digital/HD broadcasts
[/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light][FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light]3
[/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light][FONT=Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light,Akzidenz Grotesk BE Light]• 1 telephone jack
• 1 USB 2.0 port (PocketDISH compatible)
• 1 Ethernet port (for future use)
• 3-prong power cord
[/FONT]
[/FONT]
I see what you are saying but now you can understand my confusion, I hope. So you think I should just lease a 211 from DISH and purchase an external hard drive after paying the 40 bucks instead of getting the 612, right? Is the recording to the hard drive seamless, the way it is on the DVR?

I could do that and just swap out my 622 for 14.95, I guess....
o, what you are seeing is info for a HD DUO DVR and HD Enhanced DUO DVR.
jwgreen68
Award Winning HD DVRs!

High Definition DuoDVR Receiver
$100 Installed
$50 Shipped

Enhanced High Definition DuoDVR Receiver
$125 Installed
$75 Shipped

One Room of Service

High Definition Solo DVR Receiver
$75 Installed
Shipped HD DVRs subject to certain restrictions

Nowhere there does it say 722k or even 722!

This is what it is:
Award Winning HD DVRs!

High Definition DuoDVR Receiver-622
$100 Installed
$50 Shipped

Enhanced High Definition DuoDVR Receiver-722
$125 Installed
$75 Shipped

One Room of Service

High Definition Solo DVR Receiver-222
$75 Installed
Shipped HD DVRs subject to certain restrictions
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
rvvaquero
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
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Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
Yes the Cowboys owner needs to fire the general manager (himself), co-owner, Chief Operating Officer (COO), Executive Vice President, Director of Player Personnel, and President of AT&T Stadium (his son) and then he should jump off of a cliff. Only then can they recover.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"
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navychop
"Big salary." Charlie. "?Big?"
Tampa8
Seems in some ways better. Nicer layout, as others said maybe cleaner. Moving ahead in the guide is better.
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
I think most are using it on a firestick or other device as an extra receiver, rather than their phone. Just a guess based on how I use it. 99% thru my firestick, 1% phone.
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
long_time_Dish
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
long_time_Dish
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
Those are the episodes I am looking for. They are referred to a lot in the episodes I just recently watched.
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Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...
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would probably also work well for NHK on 101W and possibly for PBS on 99W. I used one for a while on 30W. Just keep in mind that because it's undersized for those satellites, it might work fine in clear weather but won't have much margin to account for signal degradation during rain/snow
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If you can find one, the Shaw / Star Choice 75e ellipticals are great for use on 97, 99, and 101W. They are really just rebranded ChannelMaster 75 cm reflectors and use linear LNBFs by default out of the box.

Everyone else's mileage may vary.
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I have read that some have converted this type dish but after giving it a good look, it's the lnb conversion that is the bottleneck. Does anyone have a picture of their attempt to configure the lnb? I watched a video on youtube from the save it for parts guy and he used duct tape! Guess it worked but I'm thinking something a bit more permanent!
Thanks to all for your interest and replies...
Titanium
Many of us have used a universal LNBF mount (or get creative with L brackets and plumbers tape - perforated metal strapping). Use a few inches of aluminum tube (or a piece of 1x2" lumber) to extend the support arm (replacing the plastic mount used by DirecTV and Dish) to place the LNBF throat opening at the correct distance from the reflector, the correct height and at the correct angle. Nothing magical... simply place the new linear LNBF in the center at the same distance, height and angle as the current combo.
www.amazon.com/Universal-Single-Bracket-Holder-FTA-US/dp/B074L85WK2
LNBF mount.webp
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To add: 101W Ku seems to be (one of if not the) strongest for me, and if I only had Ku I definitely want 101W for the music mux, it's robust FEC and strong signal help a lot. I've thought about using a used Dish/DirectTV dish at my Dads to supplement his OTA (mainly for my benefit when I visit :) )
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
navychop
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
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Oh....you were serious
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