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Hello everyone,
I need a little help please.
This is a long post and I apologize for that.
I have a lot of questions.
I am brand new to legal FTA and am trying to get everything
I need to build my system.
I need a little help so feel free to jump in at anytime ok?
I am really new and do not know anything.
Any advise, tips, or new links to info would be greatly
appreciated.
I want to learn all I can about legal FTA.
I am not asking for info on any type of hacking,and I am not interested in that.
I have two old buds.
I want to repair these old buds and start using them.
I ran across a site about FTA and I am trying to learn all
I can about it. Legal FTA not hack crap.
It sounds like a wonderful hobby and a whole lot of fun.
After reading about 20 or so other sites,this site is by
far the best one I have seen.
Lots of good info on this site.
So your site is the only one I have joined.
Most of the other sites I found were about hack crap.
I have read just about everything I could find on here.
Some of it is over my head, but I am learning.
Here is what I have so far.

Two Old Buds- Home Cable [tm]
Both are about 7ft 5ins.
I measured them twice and that is what I came up with both
times, not sure how exact that is.
Mesh type dishes.

Bud 1
has a California Amplifier,Camarilo,Ca.
C-Band LNBF
Voltage Controlled Switch
Part No.140129
Input:3.7-4.2 GHz
Output:950-1450MHz
Noise:25k
Gain:65DB Typical
Pole = 11.5 feet by 3.5 inches

Receiver is
Home Cable [tm]
DBS Communication Computer HCC9300
Video Cipher RS
Descrambler Equipped
By Uniden Model No. UST-4400
Renewable Security A040-VC2+,or plus series.

Bud 2
LNB= Chaparral
California Amplifier
Mag7
HEMT Low Noise Block Convertor
PartNo.C31244
Input:3.7-4.2 GHz
Output:950-140MHz
Gain:65DB Typical
Pole = 8ft by 3.5 inches

Receiver is
Home Cable [tm]
Video Cipher RS
Videopal
Order Recorder
Video Cipher Scrambling Format
General Instruments Corporation
By Uniden Model No.HCC 9400
Renewable Security A090-VC2+,or plus series.

If I understand what info I have been reading these are the
type LNBF and receivers used with old C/Ku-band signal correct?
I will need to upgrade these for a new type FTA receiver like coolsat or pansat?
Most signals are now digital right?
When I plug up the Uniden UST-4400 model I got nothing?
I understand these units have a built in memory and a backup battery?
And I think I read that they are not worth trying to repair once dead,they are now junk?
So their is no way to reload the memory,etc from the manufacturers site like the old pc mother boards did?
This means I can not use this one at all anymore correct?
Like to control bud movement?
Will Uniden still repair these? If not worth repairing,
I will have to find another control unit or buy a gbox to control motor right?
The other unit Uniden HCC 9400 powers on ok.
So I can use this one to control bud movement for now?
But I need to replace permanent backup battery as describe in another post on this site,before it goes dead?
Can one unit control bud movement on both bud motors?
Just wondering? Maybe with a switch?
I am working part time and on a very limited income.
Anyone have any ideas about getting a gbox cheap,or old receiver to use to control the bud that needs one?
I have been looking online for the best deal,and I have not found too many units to compare prices with?
I have not seen any around here locally where I live?
Sadoun has a gbox under a hundred dollars I think, and if needed I will get one from them over the next few months?
Just hopeing someone has an idea on how to buy one cheaper maybe,or rig something up for now?
Anyone got a link I can check out?
If I go with a gbox it just lets me control dish motor with new type receiver with out the old receiver,correct?
This is what I have ordered so far.

Coolsat 6000 Premium, I tried to win several auctions on fleabay for newer models,they always started under 10 dollars, but soon jumped to 80-150 dollars plus.
I just can not afford that at this time.
I got the coolsat for under 60 with shipping and it was new in the box not refurbished.
Suppose to be a reputable dealer but who knows.
I understand there are a lot of knockoffs being passed around- everywhere these days.
The box and the unit look legit.
It was the best deal I could find at the time.
Maybe it will get me started till I can afford something newer.
I also bought two BSC621-2 C band and KU band LNBFs.
One for each bud- to play around with?
I hope this was a good enough choice-they were really cheap, compared to all the newer ones I looked at.
I also ordered a DIGITAL SIGNAL METER LNB, and some switches- 4x1 DiSEqC and 2x1 Diseqc.
I have to get the motor cables next, any ideas on what to get and where to pick it up cheap?
Not sure if any of the cable on them is any good after all this time,some were cut?
I read something about sprinkler wire cable on here?
Is that any good? For the motor controls?
Suppose to be cheap?
Have any of you tried it?
How far can I run these cables,I read several different answers on a couple of post?
Anywhere from 100-150 feet?
I have not worked out my bud locations yet,I have a big yard but lots of really big trees, so I may have to get the chainsaw out to get a good site.

I also found an old primestar dish 39in by 36in fiberglass?
Someone just tossed it by the side of the road.
Picked it up many years ago.
It still has the bracket mounted in back of the dish.
It is solid type dish with -offset focus?
LBN:5082
Model No.NJR2112F
Dish is:Channel Master
Part No.3040681-01
Mold No:90M-1
Made in USA.
What can I do with this one?
I want to motor it up also and use it for C/Ku possibly?
Do I need to change the LNB type for legal FTA?
I do not know yet if this LNB is any good or not?

A friend gave me a dn500 new in the box, said he never used it and did not want it.
Appears to be about 22in. by about 20.5inches?
Box says Dish Interactive
Phillips Magnavox
DSK 32610
Dual[3922]
LNBF dish digital LNBF
Made in Japan
BSNA5-506A

Another friend gave me his dn system.
Dish is about 19.5 inches?
It was new still in the box.
It has one LNBF
BS1H1UP101M
Made in Japan.
I put it together one weekend just to see how to do it,
and the wife threw the box away.
I do not remember what was on that box,but I never did anything else with the dish.That was many years ago.
It is just setting under the shed out back.
What good are these type dn dishes for FTA, or should I just sell them?
These dn receivers are not any good for FTA I understand,so I need to sell them I guess even if I can use the dishes?
You also have to change the LNBs to use them for legal FTA right?
Anyone have any ideas about how I could hook all this mess up into one big legal FTA network or something useful?
I am only interested in legal FTA and that's all.
I really do not know a c from a Ku signal at the moment.
Just what I have read on this site.
Sounds like it would be fun to see what I could pick up using legal FTA?
I am in middle Georgia 31032 area.
Latitude: 33° 0.20730' N , Longitude: 83° 33.04692' W
I think this is correct for my area?
I like news,sports, religion,old westerns,old movies,etc,like they used to show on regular t.v. years ago.
Is any of that on the legal FTA sats?
What would be my southern most sat from this area?
I did not really get that,but I know you start with that one first right?
What would be good legal FTA sats to try for from my area?
I have no idea where to start or what programing is on any of the legal FTA sats?
So any general help,or pointers for my area would be great?
What about my bud locations in my yard?
How close or how far apart do I need to put them?
Does that even matter?
Will they cross interfere with each others signals?
I have plenty of room in the yard except for trees of course.
The two bud sites I am thinking about are about 50 feet apart inline from each other, but still close to my home?
They will each be about 100-110 feet from my home.
Behind them about 30 feet back will be the power company lines.Will being this close to the power lines cause any problems with signal streangth etc?
Any ideas? What do you guys think?
I can use all the help I can get.
If I figure out how to use a digital camera and how to post pictures on here,I will put some up for you guys to check it all out,ok.
I really enjoy the pics you guys post.
Thanks for any help or ideas.:D
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voomvoom

you can put extra lnb's offset from center and get nearby satellites using the same dish, something to think about for your Primestar dish
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Yes I read where some people are doing that.
Some people are adding multi lnb's.
Lots of brackets for sale everywhere,two,three,five,etc.
I got to say-it looks cool.:up
I do not understand all that.
I have a D*N 500 dish.
I see where some people do that with them too.
Change the lnb's and install one of those new brackets.
Might try that later on.
Wonder if the D*N 500 bracket would fit the P*star and be light enough to motor it?!sadroll
Thanks for the ideas-keep them coming.
C
voomvoom

different folks like to watch different things. but, two most favorite sats are G18 ku @ 123.0w and G19 ku @ 97.0w,
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Yeah,I can understand that.
I will check out that list too.
I appreciate the info,and I just needed something to shoot far.
I did not understand what sats where available from my location,and what were not available.:what
I am clueless to what is, and what is not on true FTA.
I have never seen it or knew anybody using true FTA,
so I guess I will just have to find out for myself what I like and do not like.
Thanks for the info
C
voomvoom

I don't won't to put myself in a position of telling you to get this or that, and then it doesn't work out for you.
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Not a problem- I totally understand.:)
But I am sure this is a new learning experience for me and I will waste time and money learning the ends and outs of it. Hopefully all the fun will more than make up for that.
Your comments are always welcomed.:up
As is- everyone else 's -I am just here to learn.
Thanks again for all your help.:D
C
voomvoom

the latitude is north and the longitude is west (if you were in the southern hemisphere the latitude would be south, if you were on the other side of either pond/ocean, the longitude would be east)
you are not going to get any satellite in the east
and they are not listed as east or west of you (31032), they are listed as east or west of Greenwich Mean Time (I think?)
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I just hate maps- that's what it is.Ha.:D
Hey I was terrible in school,always had my mind on fun stuff -should have paid more attention to school work.

Some site I went to listed a bunch of satellites near you by zip code.
All were listed as west but then another listed them as east and west? More to confuse my poor soul than anything else I guess.
I got a lot to learn- I see - lots and lots.!sadroll
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your true south satellite is 83.0w and is AMC9
your longitude and straight south (true south and not magnetic south) is your most southern point to pivot on, for any motorized dish
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Thanks that one was driving me crazy-glad to finally know the answer-
many thanks.:up
C
Cadsulfide

Altough they are a little spendy, I got an EMP-Centauri 8x1 switch last fall and have six dishes tied to my Fortec Mercury and am well pleased with it.:eek:
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I read your post about the switches,and the cost.
I appreciate the info and will keep my eyes peeled for a EMP-Centauri.
This sounds like a really good switch.:up
Unfortunately I am on a tight budget right now.:(
Thanks for the tip and the diagram.
I need all the help I can get.
Thanks again:)
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Scott Greczkowski
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Bruce
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
Scott Greczkowski
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Bruce
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
Bruce
Bruce
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

M
Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week :)
Foxbat
Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.
S
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
dish has new sats dtv does not
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Shooz - Styx
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Too Much Time on My Hands - Styx
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Time Has Come Today - The Chambers Brothers
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No Time - The Guess Who
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TIME Won't Let Me-The Outsiders
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dishstaller
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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dfergie
I loved it when Rodney was on the Tonight Show...
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Foxbat
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
Thanks, I wasn't sure if you had the wrong Subject or the wrong YouTube link.
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osu1991
Was a Don Rickles fan. I've dvr'd most of his appearances on Carson from the antenna tv replays.

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dishstaller
More Dangerfield rapid fire on Carson.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scEQFHQHHhU
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dishdude
Rodney Dangerfield is great. One of his best one liners - "My wife likes to talk to me during sex, last night she called me from Florida!"

Jackie Gleason is another one of the greats.


View: https://youtu.be/ciUV77AzIB4
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primestar31

Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

OK, looked it up, that was Godzilla Minus One
Bruce
Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

OK, looked it up, that was Godzilla Minus One
At theaters, only in Japanese, on Disc and Netflix, available in English.
Foxbat
New trailer has dropped:
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long_time_Dish
Looks good! I'm interested...