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21st Hermit

Last reply Apr 14, 2009 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Negotiating with Dish, Large Savings

I've been a Dish subscriber for ~10 years, but I watch relatively little TV. Back in August 2008 I switched to the Essentials Pack (aka Welcome Pack) based on advice from this forum. Essentials is 20 channels plus locals and is $14.99/mo.

Now that baseball season is here, I wanted to add the local FSN region for that service. Called Dish, the CSR said $6/mo, great, sign me up. Well the system would not accept the add and the CSR quoted a fancy named package to get FSN. How much? $44/mo. No way I'm going to triple my monthly bill for baseball.

The CSR immediately offered a $5/mo discount . . . sorry . . . let me talk to a supervisor, I want to rant. Without much effort the supervisor offers more discounts so that the package with FSN is now $24.99/mo for one year. So FSN is costing me an extra $10/mo, reasonable if not cheap.

I'll of course switch back to Essentials after the season is over.

Hope this helps someone.

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garys

Apr 13, 2009

Just expect a $5 downgrade charge when you switch back.

r10fret

Apr 13, 2009

No, I got your point about negotiating, I have done it before, just wondering who really won here? They claimed they couldn't add the one channel for only $6 a month so they got you to spend an extra $10 instead to get it. Then you will switch back when the season is over so that means you will spend $60 total to get fsn instead of $36. Maybe dish does like your business.

They just would probably like it better if you stayed for the whole year, then you could call next year when the bill goes up and work something else out to prevent you from downgrading back to WP. If dishnow prepaid did locals and RSNs that would probably be the way to go.

mike123abc

Apr 13, 2009

Your problem could now be that you upped to a 2 year commit for the 6 months of $20/month discount. You probably will not be able to drop down to the essentials after the 6 months. You might be stuck with family pack being the lowest you can go now since it is the lowest priced qualifying tier for 2 years.

Cocophone

Apr 13, 2009

mike123abc said:
Your problem could now be that you upped to a 2 year commit for the 6 months of $20/month discount. You probably will not be able to drop down to the essentials after the 6 months. You might be stuck with family pack being the lowest you can go now since it is the lowest priced qualifying tier for 2 years.

I'm curious about the fact that Dish might be re-upping or extending customer's contract whenever they give you a discount, but they do NOT disclose that fact during the phone conversation.

I called in to complain because I've been without Fisher Communication Station since last December and the CRS discounted my bill $10 for the next 12 months. He said nothing about it causing me to have a 2 year contract. I was out of contract before the phone call.

GaryPen

Apr 13, 2009

r10fret said:
... just wondering who really won here?

The OP won. Duh.

r10fret said:
They claimed they couldn't add the one channel for only $6 a month so they got you to spend an extra $10 instead to get it. Then you will switch back when the season is over so that means you will spend $60 total to get fsn instead of $36. Maybe dish does like your business.

But, he couldn't get it added to the Essentials pack for $6/mo. It was simply unavailable with his current package. Or, did you miss that part?

So, he got a package with many more than just one add'l channel for $10 more per month. So, he'll pay $24 more over the course of the 6 month season than if he could have added only FSN...which he can't.

Judging from his description, it sounds like he got Classic Brionze 100 Plus, which is normally $45/mo, for only $25/mo. He did good.

21st Hermit

Apr 14, 2009

garys said:
Just expect a $5 downgrade charge when you switch back.

I've NEVER paid a downgrade fee!!! I simply ask what is the fee to terminate my service? As soon as the CSR hears terminate, the downgrade fee is waived.

21st Hermit

Apr 14, 2009

mike123abc said:
Your problem could now be that you upped to a 2 year commit for the 6 months of $20/month discount. You probably will not be able to drop down to the essentials after the 6 months. You might be stuck with family pack being the lowest you can go now since it is the lowest priced qualifying tier for 2 years.

This would be classed as a verbal contract. Neither the initial CSR nor the supervisor ever mentioned 2 yr contract, only the 12 mo limit on the discount. So lacking that specific mention and the "fact" that Dish records these conversations, I see no enforceable contract.

However, I did not specifically ask if their was/not a term applied, we'll see. Clearly, I'd be pi$$ed if a 2 yr term was attached.

21st Hermit

Apr 14, 2009

GaryPen said:
The OP won. Duh.

But, he couldn't get it added to the Essentials pack for $6/mo. It was simply unavailable with his current package. Or, did you miss that part?

So, he got a package with many more than just one add'l channel for $10 more per month. So, he'll pay $24 more over the course of the 6 month season than if he could have added only FSN...which he can't.

Judging from his description, it sounds like he got Classic Brionze 100 Plus, which is normally $45/mo, for only $25/mo. He did good.

Thank you Gary.

I assumed that which was obvious to you, was obvious to all. Apparently not.

During the rather lengthy conversation with the CSR, she kept mentioning names like "Classic Bronze 100 Plus" but never cost. All I wanted was basic programming, locals and FSN. Now that I have Classic Bronze 100 Plus, I'd prefer Essentials because I actually lost two channels I watched. Nothing equivalent in Classic Bronze 100 Plus. Oh how I wish we had ala carte.

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 13 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

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Jimbo

Today at 9:23 AM

dishstaller said:
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

Walmart isn't the only one ...

Juan

43 minutes ago

dishstaller said:
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price

harshness

42 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
Walmart isn't the only one ...

I've been seeing this more and more on Amazon. Sometimes it seems there is no way they could have arrived at the number.

What rankles me even more is Costco changing units of measure between similar products, so you have to convert them to compare prices.

dishstaller

13 minutes ago

Juan said:
When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...

Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.

Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 18 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

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Today at 9:36 AM

Love Every Little Thing About You - Gallery

gms49ers

Today at 10:40 AM

Where's My Thing? - Rush

harshness

52 minutes ago

I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing - Aerosmith

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Bobby

40 minutes ago

Good Golly, Miss Molly - Little Richard

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dishstaller

18 minutes ago

Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply 34 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness

Sunday at 11:30 AM

I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

harshness

Yesterday at 5:32 PM

harshness said:
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Foxbat

Yesterday at 8:39 PM

harshness said:
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Bobby

Yesterday at 9:05 PM

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Winter blend is cheaper than Summer blend.

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Bobby

39 minutes ago

Regular$5.839
Premium$6.299
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

34 minutes ago

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?

Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.

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reubenray

41 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish vs Streaming Apps?

Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.

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Former member 209992

Last reply 42 minutes ago · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Site is slooooow

For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.

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Scott Greczkowski

Saturday at 3:21 PM

Ok checked it out and for some reason the web server (NGINX) tried starting before the DNS resolver fully loaded. This is why it worked when I rebooted the machine.

Thanks to ChatGPT it had me change the NGINX config to prevent this from happening again.

With that said I can't prevent the ISP from doing emergency upgrades which was the cause of all of this.

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navychop

Saturday at 3:39 PM

Nature will develop better idiots.

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TRG

Saturday at 4:19 PM

navychop said:
Nature will develop better idiots.

God help us.

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Scott Greczkowski

Monday at 11:15 AM

I guess this is what the downtime was about.

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Scott Greczkowski

42 minutes ago

Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)

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Today at 10:52 AM · posted in BooredAtWork.COM

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Gary Toma

Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 10:40 AM · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/14/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

DIRECTV_TPN_Map_261014.xlsx 1,874 KB

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KyL416

Yesterday at 2:37 PM

WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS

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doctor J

Today at 7:22 AM

DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:

No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K	4
HD	264	2	1449
SD mpeg4	145		194
SD mpeg2	433
RB
Audio	89
Push	26
Slate	19		1

TEST Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K
HD			1
SD mpeg4
SD mpeg2
RB
Engr Work	38	-2

The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters

doctor J

Today at 7:23 AM

weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:

Weekly_Analysis_261021.xlsx 16 KB

KyL416

Today at 7:25 AM

HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Mr Tony

Today at 10:40 AM

KyL416 said:
HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Wait…..
So even though DAZN keeps touting 'only way to see games' if you are a subscriber to Choice (like my stepdad) if an agreement is reached he can see the Wolfies on 668?
I know the Wild are in dispute and a slate is on 668-1.

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Marques Brownlee

Today at 10:32 AM · posted in Marques Brownlee