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manuelpaz
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is it really needs a scalar ring o my 4 foot dish?

Hi guys

just a ? i saw some fotos about the c band lnbs always goes with this scalar ring or just a optional part, because i didn't put in my 39 inches or 4 footer (no scalar ring) but i get some high transponders but is really need one to work better or not.

any answer will be appreciated, thank u guys, u r the best.

Manny Paz:):)
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brentb636
I had read ACRadio's post weeks ago, on Rick's forum, and that convinced me that useable results would be possible. Before I read that, I couldn't pull the trigger to buy the Ck-1 lnbf.
I just touched up my setup with the conical scalar, and added about 16Q points on a Merc II) to my previous numbers.
I started out watching Sportstime Ohio with a Q of 27-32 . Adding the conical scalar, and adjusting the lnbf position more forward ( to give a lot of scalar adjustment room), then adding the conical scalar ring brought my top Q range up to 43-48 ( fluctuating, of course) . My pic was solid even at the lower range.

Attached pic show the distance from the end of the lnbf that seems optimum right now for the scalar, and also shows some electrical tape and a pocket protector to shim the tapered feedhorn so I could clamp it. :)
Anole
to lie with numbers:

Well, depending on how you spin those numbers, one could say you found a 50% boost by going conical. - :eek:
In fairness, I think running barefoot was the worst case to compare against, but that's just my opinion.
This other test suggests around 25% boost, which is still a serious improvement! - :up
brentb636
Without question the circular scalar ring improves the signal quality substantially. Since I'm dealing with a 1.2m dish, it gives me quite a few channels I wouldn't have otherwise. I'm slowly scanning everything across the arc , to see what I can get adequately, and, of course, I still have work to do out at the dish. Adjusting the C-band side, though, DID degrade my Ku quality measurably. I can get pretty anything I want on Ku, though, with my 90cm dish, so that's the plan.
:)
Anole
based on observations:

Adjusting the C-band side, though, DID degrade my Ku quality measurably.
I can get pretty anything I want on Ku, though, with my 90cm dish, so that's the plan.
Ku on this LNBF isn't as good as some previous Ku-only LNB?
Or, you tuned the C at the expense of Ku?
I'll assume the latter.

Based on lots of reading here, I'd suggest you consider that the LNBF is not located at the exact focal point of the dish, aimed perpendicular to the dish, or not aimed at the proper place on the dish.
That's a theory, but it does agree with some published and unpublished findings.
brentb636
"Based on lots of reading here, I'd suggest you consider that the LNBF is not located at the exact focal point of the dish, aimed perpendicular to the dish, or not aimed at the proper place on the dish.
That's a theory, but it does agree with some published and unpublished findings."

At this point in the project, it's likely that ALL of the above are true. It's been solid rain for two days now, but clearing tomorrow. Back to playing with it , then.
:)
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AT&T runs First Net which was set up so first responders have a signal almost everywhere, which is the case around here and up and down the east coast when I've been traveling. In my experience T-Mobile has the fastest network but patchy coverage while Verizon has a slow network and also patchy coverage as well. We also have a iPhone on T-Mobile and one on Mobile-X which uses the Verizon network, so comparison is easy.
EarDemon
AT&T runs First Net which was set up so first responders have a signal almost everywhere, which is the case around here and up and down the east coast when I've been traveling. In my experience T-Mobile has the fastest network but patchy coverage while Verizon has a slow network and also patchy coverage as well. We also have a iPhone on T-Mobile and one on Mobile-X which uses the Verizon network, so comparison is easy.
I did a 2500 mile round trip road trip a few weeks ago, there were a handful of places where Verizon had service and I had nothing on FirstNet. Most notably in the backwoods of Kentucky and Tennessee. Those same places I had no service on T-Mobile either. In populated areas, like the Lexington metro and Knoxville metro AT&T not only had great coverage, better than Verizon and T-Mobile generally, they have n77 everywhere. I hit 1.2 Gbps or higher pretty much everywhere, beating out the other two. That is the exact opposite here back in Western NY. Very little n77 on AT&T here and T-Mobile always rockets to 1.5 Gbps or higher.

As far as I know, there is no AT&T tower in my town. The tower I connect to when I'm outside, no service indoors, is one about 4.5 miles north of me in a different town, I can barley latch on to band 12, not 14. It's LTE only but when near that tower I exceed 200 Mbps which is phenomenal for low band LTE, but T-Mobile and Verizon have mid band on the same tower, and i'm well over a gig.

I'm looking forward to the n14 conversion and deployment of n79/4.9 GHz. Since AT&T can't sell their home internet service in NY State, I don't expect big things from them besides the enhancements to FirstNet.
JSheridan
... Since AT&T can't sell their home internet service in NY State, I don't expect big things from them besides the enhancements to FirstNet.
We're in NY and we can now. We're an AT&T retailer and have been selling AT&T Internet Air for a few months. It's $35 a month if you're an AT&T post paid subscriber, $55 a month if you're not a subscriber.
Almighty1
We're in NY and we can now. We're an AT&T retailer and have been selling AT&T Internet Air for a few months. It's $35 a month if you're an AT&T post paid subscriber, $55 a month if you're not a subscriber.
The AT&T Internet that everyone has access to is AT&T WorldNet aka att.com which is the same backbone created in 1994 that is a joke. AT&T has 3 Internet tier 1 backbones. AT&T Global Network Services formerly IBM Global Network Services (prserv.net) and AT&T Emerging Network Services, formerly (CERFNet (California Educational and Research Foundation Network) that was part of NSFNet (National Science Foundation Network). AT&T WorldNet has always been a inferior and not the same quality as the other two which are highly respected.
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The AT&T Internet that everyone has access to is AT&T WorldNet aka att.com which is the same backbone created in 1994 that is a joke

JSheridan is referring to ATT's (relatively) new 5G cellular home internet.
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JSheridan is referring to ATT's (relatively) new 5G cellular home internet.
I know, that still will use AT&T's 1996 created backbone better known as AS 7018 which is the lower end. The other two are higher end under AS2685 & AS2686 & AS1740 & AS1838.
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Juan
JSheridan is referring to ATT's (relatively) new 5G cellular home internet.
Which connects to a backbone network
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Which connects to a backbone network

Fun fact.. the backhaul to the tower in Drexel, MO for both VZW and ATT is provided by CenturyLink
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There is a REASON trucks all have a very similar layout....it's what people want AND it serves the purposes those of us who have a truck needs.
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