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Last reply May 10, 2009 · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion

Lbn throat sizes question

Are there any smaller throat standard lnbs on the market. I have dishes that use the smaller throat lnb feedhorns (1.093 = 27.76mm) My lnb brackets fit the smaller ones. I ground out a larger area for the 40mm throat lnbs and had no luck with them on sat 83 for RTN. I figure becasue the 40mm center height is just slightly higher than the 27mm sits down in it. I put the smaller original feedhorn with lnb attached on back on and it tuned right in. The lnb on there now attached to feedhorn is a 1.6 noise ratio and do not know the gain. I can get a norsat to bolt on my feedhorn but they are pricy. I have looked for smaller throat standards but not finding any. Would like to get that noise number down.
And a question about the noise ratio of the commercial lnb such as Norsat.
their affordable one (50.00) is a 0.6 noise and the ones I have read reviews about here on the forum such as TechSat tracker II gets down to 0.2.
Are these ratios that accurate? Can one compare a commercial to aftermarket China made lnb? Right now with the original 1.6 noise lnb with unknown manufacture I get a 69-87 signal quality jumps back and forth with a cs5000 with a 1.2m dish. Can someone suggest a improvement with a low noise with a smaller neck to fit my holder or a norsat with lower noise?
Getting 69-87 Q looks fine on tv, would the cost of norsat be worth the investment?

And a cover for my feedhorn opening. Where can they be bought or can someone suggest what to use to construct one as hornet season is coming.
thanks for any suggestions and information on obtaining a lnb with the 27mm neck.

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cruzin

May 9, 2009

Hi, the lnbs came on the dishes. I pulled them off buildings we bought the equipment from. The buildings were going to be demoed. From what I gather you can buy any of those commercial lnbs and bolt them to the feedhorn as long as the bolt holes line up. But I believe it may be limited to ku and the band it is made for.
I think I am getting both h & z as I get both of the RTN feeds east and west. I think one is H and one is Z. But I may be wrong and just not knowing. Someone correct me if I am wrong. I do not know if the stations can have a h or z or is the transponders h or z?
I had 3 of them and they all worked, on one of them it had chapparel stamped on it. The other 2 feedhorns do not have any markings. Only one of the lnbs have a name (Echostar)
Hope this clears up the question.

turbosat

May 9, 2009

That lnb-cover looked made to order, but if it cuts your signal that much, gotta toss it and keep looking! Musta made that plastic with lead in it lol. Nice painting, not nearly so outlandish as my purple people eater primestar. It's all for fun though.

B.J.

May 10, 2009

cruzin said:
Hi, the lnbs came on the dishes. I pulled them off buildings we bought the equipment from. The buildings were going to be demoed. From what I gather you can buy any of those commercial lnbs and bolt them to the feedhorn as long as the bolt holes line up. But I believe it may be limited to ku and the band it is made for.
I think I am getting both h & z as I get both of the RTN feeds east and west. I think one is H and one is Z. But I may be wrong and just not knowing. Someone correct me if I am wrong. I do not know if the stations can have a h or z or is the transponders h or z?
I had 3 of them and they all worked, on one of them it had chapparel stamped on it. The other 2 feedhorns do not have any markings. Only one of the lnbs have a name (Echostar)
Hope this clears up the question.

THanks. Neat.

Re polarity, if you're talking RTN on ACM9, both east and west are on the same horizontal transponder, so getting those two doesn't mean you're getting both polarities. I can't imagine any way that you could get both polarities with a replacement LNB like a Norsat.
I'm curious whether you've had the lnbs off those things? If so, is the part you call the feedhorn open all the way to the LNB, or is it closed off with probes on both sides of where it's closed off (confusing wording)? Also, is the wave-guide where it connects to the LNB cylindrical or rectangular??
The reason I ask, is that replacement LNBs like a Norsat or Cal-Amp have rectangular wave guides, whereas with that narrow cylindrical throat almost certainly have a circular waveguide at the throat area, but perhaps it's closed off where it connects to the LNB, and converts to a rectangular waveguide, but that doesn't seem likely.
I have an *OLD* {1980s era} General Instruments LNBF that has a front section that looks similar to your feed, ie a broad scalar ring (mine's more conical), and a very small cylindrical throat, connecting to what seems to be an LNB via a round flange with numerous screw holes similar to yours. However on mine, it is a round waveguide on both sides of the flange. Ie I couldn't connect a replacement LNB because that would have a rectangular waveguide.
Anyway, I've never run into a small feedhorn like yours that would accept replacement LNBs. If it does, then that's interesting, but I really don't think it would do polarity switching.

Re the "hornets", there are many different kinds of hornets. The type mentioned above that make the HUGE nests would never build in a feedhorn. Also as mentioned above, usually it's wasps that build in feedhorns, and while they will sting, usually if you get a couple feet away from their nest, they will leave you alone, compared to a hornet, that will follow you across a yard into the house and out the door to the other side of the house. Hornets are really agressive. But the reason I'm commenting on the hornets, is that in addition to the big nest hornets, and yellow-jacket ground type hornets, the past several years, we've had a wierd type of hornet nest on our house/garage. I think I looked it up, and it was something like a white faced hornet. But their nests start out as the strangest looking things I've ever seen. Sort of a golf ball sized core where it connects to the building, and below that a long tube, about 1/2" diameter. Really wierd looking. It stays this way for quite a while, but eventually the hornet builds the paper covering around the long tube, but it never gets big, like those monster things. I've also seen another type of hornet that seems to build nests in enclosed spaces in decks and stuff, but I don't know what kind of hornet those are. Perhaps they would build in a feedhorn, I don't know. But back to the wasps, I generally take the feedhorn cover off my BUD in the summer, because I almost killed myself once when I went up on the top step of a ladder once to work on the feed, took it off to find a big wasp nest inside. Scared me enough that I tried to run, while still on top of the ladder. My feet, and the top of the ladder went one way, the rest of me went the other way, and I fell horizontally 6', hitting a big 4' rock that was next to my ladder. I could hardly walk for weeks after that. After that, I decided to take the cover off, so they won't build in there.

cruzin

May 10, 2009

Hi, ya I had questioned if it got both h and z. I do not think it does. Not alot of good unless you find something like rtn to use it on. I wonder if you could turn it 90 deg and get vertical? Yes they have a rectangular area down there. I have 2 types one must have a o-ring because you can see down in the lnb and I see a small pin down there and the one I have here in my hand is blocked off with what looks like white plastic (gasket). I suppose that dish I have that lnb on is only good for what I am doing with it. Although I have the one to the left of it and I have the more common 40mm throat lnbs on it. Could motorize one someday.but there are rather inexpencieve 1.2 dishes for motorizing out there.
Maybe those hornets with the white face are "ballface hornets" if so they are mean. They build in trees or on buildings. Make a horn type looking nest. Very mean, larger type. I got stung by one years back in the chest and within a couple hours I had blotches all over my body.

B.J. said:
THanks. Neat.

Re polarity, if you're talking RTN on ACM9, both east and west are on the same horizontal transponder, so getting those two doesn't mean you're getting both polarities. I can't imagine any way that you could get both polarities with a replacement LNB like a Norsat.
I'm curious whether you've had the lnbs off those things? If so, is the part you call the feedhorn open all the way to the LNB, or is it closed off with probes on both sides of where it's closed off (confusing wording)? Also, is the wave-guide where it connects to the LNB cylindrical or rectangular??
The reason I ask, is that replacement LNBs like a Norsat or Cal-Amp have rectangular wave guides, whereas with that narrow cylindrical throat almost certainly have a circular waveguide at the throat area, but perhaps it's closed off where it connects to the LNB, and converts to a rectangular waveguide, but that doesn't seem likely.
I have an *OLD* {1980s era} General Instruments LNBF that has a front section that looks similar to your feed, ie a broad scalar ring (mine's more conical), and a very small cylindrical throat, connecting to what seems to be an LNB via a round flange with numerous screw holes similar to yours. However on mine, it is a round waveguide on both sides of the flange. Ie I couldn't connect a replacement LNB because that would have a rectangular waveguide.
Anyway, I've never run into a small feedhorn like yours that would accept replacement LNBs. If it does, then that's interesting, but I really don't think it would do polarity switching.

Re the "hornets", there are many different kinds of hornets. The type mentioned above that make the HUGE nests would never build in a feedhorn. Also as mentioned above, usually it's wasps that build in feedhorns, and while they will sting, usually if you get a couple feet away from their nest, they will leave you alone, compared to a hornet, that will follow you across a yard into the house and out the door to the other side of the house. Hornets are really agressive. But the reason I'm commenting on the hornets, is that in addition to the big nest hornets, and yellow-jacket ground type hornets, the past several years, we've had a wierd type of hornet nest on our house/garage. I think I looked it up, and it was something like a white faced hornet. But their nests start out as the strangest looking things I've ever seen. Sort of a golf ball sized core where it connects to the building, and below that a long tube, about 1/2" diameter. Really wierd looking. It stays this way for quite a while, but eventually the hornet builds the paper covering around the long tube, but it never gets big, like those monster things. I've also seen another type of hornet that seems to build nests in enclosed spaces in decks and stuff, but I don't know what kind of hornet those are. Perhaps they would build in a feedhorn, I don't know. But back to the wasps, I generally take the feedhorn cover off my BUD in the summer, because I almost killed myself once when I went up on the top step of a ladder once to work on the feed, took it off to find a big wasp nest inside. Scared me enough that I tried to run, while still on top of the ladder. My feet, and the top of the ladder went one way, the rest of me went the other way, and I fell horizontally 6', hitting a big 4' rock that was next to my ladder. I could hardly walk for weeks after that. After that, I decided to take the cover off, so they won't build in there.

Tron

May 10, 2009

Cruzin, it looks like a C-120 flange, but I could be wrong. There are feedhorns out there with flanges that closely resemble C-120, but the bolt holes are off ever so slightly. That was the case on a dish I helped a friend remove from an ex-post office.

The Norsat LNBs are single polarity, meaning they will only receive H or V, depending on their orientation. While the noise figures sound incredibly high for these LNBs, the L.O. stability is usually excellent compared with consumer LNBs. I have a Norsat .9 NF LNB that performs about the same as my Invacom .3

B.J.

May 10, 2009

cruzin said:
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Maybe those hornets with the white face are "ballface hornets" if so they are mean. They build in trees or on buildings. Make a horn type looking nest. Very mean, larger type. .....

Yeah, the hornet was a "bald face" hornet, not a white face.
Nest is very weird looking. See picture below of one attached to bottom of 4x4 deck rail.

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TVHabit

Last reply 18 minutes ago · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion

Hybrid Dish setup

Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...

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Titanium

Tuesday at 5:10 PM

Yes, many have hacked a DirecTV or Dish Network dish before. Quite undersized, but would receive the 97w KU stations with an LNBF swap. Make a template to set the LNBF face angle and distance from the reflector. Remove the current circular polarity LNBFs and make a bracket to hold the replacement linear LNBF in the correct centered position. Remember to set the polarity skew.

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Brct203

Tuesday at 9:07 PM

would probably also work well for NHK on 101W and possibly for PBS on 99W. I used one for a while on 30W. Just keep in mind that because it's undersized for those satellites, it might work fine in clear weather but won't have much margin to account for signal degradation during rain/snow

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one_db_compression

Tuesday at 10:22 PM

If you can find one, the Shaw / Star Choice 75e ellipticals are great for use on 97, 99, and 101W. They are really just rebranded ChannelMaster 75 cm reflectors and use linear LNBFs by default out of the box.

Everyone else's mileage may vary.

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TVHabit

Today at 10:12 AM

I have read that some have converted this type dish but after giving it a good look, it's the lnb conversion that is the bottleneck. Does anyone have a picture of their attempt to configure the lnb? I watched a video on youtube from the save it for parts guy and he used duct tape! Guess it worked but I'm thinking something a bit more permanent!
Thanks to all for your interest and replies...

Titanium

18 minutes ago

Many of us have used a universal LNBF mount (or get creative with L brackets and plumbers tape - perforated metal strapping). Use a few inches of aluminum tube (or a piece of 1x2" lumber) to extend the support arm (replacing the plastic mount used by DirecTV and Dish) to place the LNBF throat opening at the correct distance from the reflector, the correct height and at the correct angle. Nothing magical... simply place the new linear LNBF in the center at the same distance, height and angle as the current combo.
www.amazon.com/Universal-Single-Bracket-Holder-FTA-US/dp/B074L85WK2

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Bobby

Thursday at 11:20 AM

Regular$6.099
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at Costco, Rohnert Park.

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Today at 10:27 AM

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Today at 11:30 AM

I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

dishstaller

Today at 12:32 PM

Bobby said:
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Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

Last night it was about $4.17 gas, $6,19 diesel.

harshness

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Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

On the West Coast, a 40-cent differential is common. It used to be 30 cents before the prices rose above $3.

A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic), which is a whole different discussion.

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Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.

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klang

Jul 28, 2025

I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.

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klang

Oct 11, 2026

klang said:
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.

Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.

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MikeD-C05

Oct 11, 2026

klang said:
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.

Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.

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harshness

Tuesday at 11:28 AM

MikeD-C05 said:
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.

Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?

MikeD-C05

Today at 12:51 PM

harshness said:
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?

There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.

harshness

Today at 2:00 PM

MikeD-C05 said:
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.

Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.

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JohnGalt1234

Last reply Today at 1:49 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

H3 EHD lists upcoming airings instead of recordings on EHD and often won't recognize EHD is connected after reboot

This started a couple months ago. I have 2 H3s on one network, both with 2 EHD identical 3 TB seperately powered so all recordings are accessible by all 4k & J4s (8 of them).

On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!

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navychop

Yesterday at 3:40 PM

It'll only see two EHDs at a time.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 7:18 PM

JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?

This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.

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JohnGalt1234

Yesterday at 9:02 PM

Almighty1 said:
JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?

This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.

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As I understand it, the android is just the display signal from the hopper+. I can disconnect the H+ and plug the hdmi directly into the master hopper3.

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Almighty1

Today at 12:02 AM

JohnGalt1234 said:
As I understand it, the android is just the display signal from the hopper+. I can disconnect the H+ and plug the hdmi directly into the master hopper3.

It is not just a display signal as explained above. When you have the Hopper+ connected, it uses Android TV for pretty much everything except for the satellite signal which is why it uses the DISH app for the standard Hopper 3 functions. But that should not matter because in your case, CasinoH3 is the Hopper 3 with the EHD which is what you call the naughty one based on the dates you mentioned and Master Bedroom which has the Hopper Plus connected to the Hopper 3 that does not have the problem. So one way to test the theory is disconnect the Hopper Plus from that Hopper 3 and then use the EHD's connected to CasinoH3 currently to see if the same issue exists. That way you will know if the problem is there without a Hopper Plus connected or if CasinoH3 is just a bad hopper to begin with.

Normally when you disconnect the Hopper Plus, it will be 30 minutes or more before you can use the Hopper 3 again.

What you want to do is:
hold the POWER button in, not the red reset button, for about 45 seconds or so while disconnecting the power to the Plus and moving the HDMI cable and it will reboot to the normal Hopper only immediately.

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bookworm370

Today at 1:41 PM

navychop said:
It'll only see two EHDs at a time.

Yes, I have only two online at a time.
One comes online, the other one consistently will not come online

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bookworm370

Today at 1:49 PM

bookworm370 said:
Yes, I have only two online at a time.
One comes online; the other consistently won't. Also, when I connect the EHD, the USB Detected status light on the EHD itself changes from Red to Green. But the Hopper (713) does not start the EHD read process. The light changes to indicate that the EHD has detected a valid USB cable, but the Hopper does not recognize it.

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Last reply Today at 1:01 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.

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bookworm370

Yesterday at 3:17 PM

Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

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reubenray

Yesterday at 6:40 PM

I got the 713 update yesterday.

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naptime

Today at 1:05 AM

I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

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reubenray

Today at 6:14 AM

bookworm370 said:
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.

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Bobby

Today at 10:32 AM

naptime said:
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

This has been an ongoing issue. A fix is coming, probably in the next software version.

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dishstaller

Today at 1:01 PM

reubenray said:
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning.

Had a customer call recently saying their remote was really acting up, some buttons no longer functioned. Told them to reboot the Hopper....problem fixed.
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

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telebiker

Last reply Today at 12:54 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Hopper and Dish Hopper Plus No Alexa in settings

I have Dish Hopper and Hopper Plus and also have Alexa Echo. I link the Alex skill to Dish and it asks me to enter the pairing code shown on the TV. I go into Dish Settings and there is no Alexa shown. Not sure what to do.

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HipKat

Mar 15, 2026

Guys,
Android is Google. Google is Android. Android OS and Google TV are the same thing.
The Hopper+ and Joey 4's run Android TV, which is Google's television version of Android.
That means under the hood, you have:

Linux kernel
Android framework
Google TV / Android TV interface
Google Play Store for TV apps

Alexa is the competition. Google is not going to host their competition.
The old Hopper Carbon UI is NOT Google so that's why Alexa was on there.

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Harryhaggle

Mar 18, 2026

Understood. But here's the rub - Google Assistant setup is ALSO missing from the Hopper Plus setup. I'm a paraplegic.and need to use voice controls as much as possible but I can't press a button on the remote to activate Google Assistant. I prefer ALEXA (or ALEXA+) but I have one older google device and will go that route IF they make it available. BTW calling Dish Customer Service is no help- they just say they have no info on if/when there will be an update.

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navychop

Mar 18, 2026

Ungood.

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reubenray

Today at 10:17 AM

What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?

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navychop

Today at 12:54 PM

Tell Alexa verbally what to do.