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Last reply Jun 1, 2009 · posted in TV Shows

HDNet Movies / June

June 2009 Programming Highlights

*All times listed are Eastern Standard Time
*Please check the complete Program Schedule or www.hdnetmovies.com for additional film, dates and times

HDNet Movies Sneak Preview – Experience exclusive broadcasts of new films before they hit theaters and DVD

Surveillance
Premieres Wednesday, June 24th at 8:15pm, followed by encore presentations at 10:00pm and 11:45pm

Starring Julia Ormond, Bill Pullman, Pell James. Written by Jennifer Lynch and Kent Harper. Executive Produced by David Lynch. Directed by Jennifer Lynch.

When Federal Officers Elizabeth Anderson (Julia Ormond) and Sam Hallaway (Bill Pullman) arrive at Captain Billing's office, they have three sets of stories to figure out and a string of vicious murders to consider.

One zealot cop, a strung out junkie and an eight year old girl all sit in testimony to the roadside rampage, but as the Feds begin to expose the fragile little details each witness conceals so carefully with a well practiced lie, they soon discover that uncovering 'the truth' can come at a very big cost…

SPOTLIGHT FEATURES – Highlighted feature films airing on HDNet Movies

Army of Darkness – premieres Friday, June 12th at 8:00pm
Starring Bruce Campbell, Embeth Davidtz, Marcus Gilbert. Directed by Sam Raimi

Be Cool – premieres Saturday, June 13th at 10:00pm
Starring John Travolta, Uma Thurman, Vince Vaughn. Directed by F. Gary Grey

District B-13 – premieres Tuesday, June 9th at 10:15pm
Starring Cyril Raffaelli David Belle, Tony A'Mario. Directed by Pierre Morel

Get Shorty – premieres Saturday, June 13th at 8:05pm
Starring John Travolta, Gene Hackman, Rene Russo. Directed by Barry Sonnenfeld.
Golden Globe Award winner for Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture – Comedy/Musical: John Travolta
Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture – Comedy Musical and Best Motion Picture Screenplay

Happy Gilmore – premieres Saturday, June 6th at 8:00pm
Starring Adam Sandler, Julie Bowen, Christopher McDonald. Directed by Dennis Dugan

The Life of David Gale – premieres Saturday, June 27th at 8:00pm
Starring Kate Winslet, Kevin Spacey, Laura Linney. Directed by Alan Parker

Reservoir Dogs – premieres Saturday, June 20th at 9:30pm
Starring Harvey Keitel, Tim Roth, Michael Madsen. Directed by Quentin Tarantino

Waking Up in Reno – premieres Saturday, June 6th at 9:35pm
Starring Natasha Richardson, Billy Bob Thornton, Charlize Theron. Directed by Jordan Brady

HIGH DEFINITION PREMIERES – Films broadcast in High Definition for the first time on television
See program schedule or www.hdnetmovies.com for complete listings of dates and times

The Accidental Tourist
Starring William Hurt, Kathleen Turner, Geena Davis. Directed by Lawrence Kasdan
Academy Award winner for Best Supporting Actress: Geena Davis
Academy Award nominations for Best Picture, Best Original Score and Best Writing
Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture – Drama and Best Original Score

Boys on the Side
Starring Whoopie Goldberg, Drew Barrymore, Mary-Louise Parker, Directed by Herbert Ross

Creepshow
Starring Hal Holbrook, Adrienne Barbeau, Fritz Weaver. Directed by George A. Romero

District B-13
Starring Cyril Raffaelli David Belle, Tony A'Mario. Directed by Pierre Morel
Surveillance
Starring Julia Ormond, Bill Pullman, Pell James. Directed by Jennifer Lynch

NATIONAL FILM REGISTRY – HDNet Movies presents American Films selected by the Library of Congress for historical and cultural preservation.
For more information on film preservation, visit www.loc.gov/film and www.filmpreservation.org
See program schedule or www.hdnetmovies.com for complete listings of dates and times

Annie Hall
Starring Woody Allen, Diane Keaton, Tony Roberts. Directed by Woody Allen
Academy Award winner for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actress: Diane Keaton, Best Writing
Academy Award nomination for Best Actor: Woody Allen
Golden Globe Award winner for Best Motion Picture Actress: Diane Keaton
Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture – Musical/Comedy, Best Director, Best Motion Picture Actor: Woody Allen, Best Motion Picture Screenplay

Lawrence of Arabia
Starring Peter O'Toole, Alec Guinness, Anthony Quinn. Directed by David Lean
Academy Award winner for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Cinematography, Best Music, Score, Best Sound, Best Film Editing, Best Art Direction-Set Decoration
Academy Award nominations for Best Actor: Peter O'Toole, Best Supporting Actor: Omar Sharif, Best Writing
Golden Globe Award winner for Best Motion Picture – Drama, Best Motion Picture – Director, Best Supporting Actor: Omar Sharif, Best Cinematography
Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture Actor: Peter O'Toole, Best Motion Picture Actor: Anthony Quinn and Best Motion Picture Score

Rebel Without a Cause
Starring James Dean, Natalie Wood, Sal Mineo. Directed by Nicholas Ray
Academy Award nominations for Best Supporting Actor: Sal Mineo, Best Supporting Actress: Natalie Wood and Best Writing

The Wild Bunch
Starring William Holden, Ernest Borgnine, Robert Ryan. Directed by Sam Peckinpah
Academy Award nominations for Best Original Score and Best Writing

In Retro – Memorable Classic movies airing Sunday Nights

The Guns of Navarone – Sunday, Jun 7th at 6:15pm
Starring Gregory Peck, David Niven, Anthony Quinn. Directed by J. Lee Thompson
Academy Award winner for Best Effects- Special Effects
Academy Award nominations for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Film Editing, Best Sound, Best Writing and Best Music
Golden Globe Award winner for Best Motion Picture - Drama and Best Motion Picture Score
Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Motion Picture Director

Force 10 from Navarone – premieres Sunday, June 7th at 9:00pm
Starring Robert Shaw, Harrison Ford, Edward Fox. Directed by Guy Hamilton

The Spirit of St. Louis – Sunday, June 14th at 7:15pm
Starring James Stewart, Patricia Smith, Murray Hamilton. Directed by Billy Wilder
Academy Award nomination for Best Effects – Special Effects

Rio Lobo – Sunday, June 14th at 9:35pm
Starring John Wayne, Jorge Rivero, Jennifer O'Neill. Directed by Howard Hawks

Lawrence of Arabia – Sunday, June 21st at 6:30pm
Starring Peter O'Toole, Alec Guinness, Anthony Quinn. Directed by David Lean
Academy Award winner for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Cinematography, Best Music, Score, Best Sound, Best Film Editing, Best Art Direction-Set Decoration
Academy Award nominations for Best Actor: Peter O'Toole, Best Supporting Actor: Omar Sharif, Best Writing
Golden Globe Award winner for Best Motion Picture – Drama, Best Motion Picture – Director, Best Supporting Actor: Omar Sharif, Best Cinematography
Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture Actor: Peter O'Toole, Best Motion Picture Actor: Anthony Quinn and Best Motion Picture Score

The Getaway – Sunday, June 28th at 6:00pm
Starring Steve McQueen, Ali MacGraw, Ben Johnson. Directed by Sam Peckinpah
Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Original Score

The Wild Bunch – Sunday, June 28th at 8:05pm
Starring William Holden, Ernest Borgnine, Robert Ryan. Directed by Sam Peckinpah
Academy Award nominations for Best Original Score and Best Writing

Jeremiah Johnson – Sunday, June 28th at 10:35pm
Starring Robert Redford, Will Geer, Stefan Gierasch. Directed by Sydney Pollack

ART HOUSE CINEMA – Independent films, foreign films and documentaries airing Tuesday Nights

Cold Mountain – Tuesday, June 2nd at 8:00pm
Starring Jude Law, Nicole Kidman, Renee Zellweger. Directed by Anthony Minghella
Academy Award winner for Best Supporting Actress: Renee Zellweger
Academy Award nominations for Best Actor: Jude Law, Best Cinematography, Best Editing, Best Music – Original Song (T-Bone Burnett and Elvis Costello), Best Music – Original Song (Sting), Best Music – Original Score
Golden Globe winner for Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role: Renee Zellweger
Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture – Drama, Best Director, Best Screenplay, Best Original Song, Best Original Score, Best Performance by an Actor: Jude Law and Best Performance by an Actress: Nicole Kidman

Red Violin – Tuesday, June 2nd at 10:45pm
Starring Samuel L. Jackson, Greta Scacchi, Carlo Cecchi. Directed by Francois Girard
Academy Award winner for Best Music – Original Score
Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Foreign Language Film

Bloody Sunday – Tuesday, June 9th at 8:15pm
Starring James Nesbitt, Tim Pigott-Smith, Nicholas Farrell. Directed by Paul Greengrass

District B-13 – premieres Tuesday, June 9th at 10:15pm
Starring Cyril Raffaelli David Belle, Tony A'Mario. Directed by Pierre Morel

Shall We Dance? – premieres Tuesday, June 16th at 8:00pm
Starring Koji Yakusho, Tamiyo Kusakari, Naoto Takenaka. Directed by Masayuki Suo

Kinky Boots – Tuesday, June 16th at 10:05pm
Starring Joel Edgerton, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Sarah-Jane Potts. Directed by Julian Jarrold
Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture: Chiwetel Ejiofor

Matewan – Tuesday, June 23rd at 8:00pm
Starring Chris Cooper, James Earl Jones, Mary McDonnell. Directed by John Sayles
Academy Award nomination for Best Cinematography

Lone Star – Tuesday, June 23rd at 10:15pm
Starring Chris Cooper, Kris Kristofferson, Matthew McConaughey. Directed by John Sayles
Academy Award nomination for Best Writing
Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Screenplay – Motion Picture

Eve's Bayou – Tuesday, June 30th at 8:15pm
Starring Jurnee Smollett, Samuel L. Jackson, Lynn Whitfield. Directed by Kasi Lemmons

The Magdalene Sisters – Tuesday, June 30th at 10:05pm
Starring Geraldine McEwan, Anne-Marie Duff, Nora-Jane Noone. Directed by Peter Mullan

Source: HDNet

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kstuart

May 27, 2009

Reservoir Dogs

definitely in my Top 10 Most Overrated Films List, which is, in no particular order:

- Reservoir Dogs
- Sex, Lies and Videotape
- Ashes of Time
- Midnight Cowboy
- Natural Born Killers
- Chicago
- Y tu mamá también
- The Usual Suspects
- Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
- The Sixth Sense

Honorable Mention - V for Vendetta

I did a web search for other such overrated film lists, and was appalled at some of the great movies found in the lists - Casablanca, 2001, Citizen Kane, Blade Runner - and some excellent ones, like Titanic and Gladiator and Braveheart - that are clearly the targets of people who love to despise popularity.

In contrast, my list represents movies that are average films, not terrible (all the flimmakers represented have good technique), but are not great, and primarily are ones that are not "significant" despite feelings to the contrary in some quarters.

Nevertheless, art speaks differently to different people, and this only represents my personal opinion.

dantheman77

May 28, 2009

midnight cowboy???!!! wow. that is one of my favs. but you like titanic?? are you a 12 year old girl??

just kidding

Jimmy 440

May 28, 2009

Reservoir Dogs is great.Q.T. is the man.He's done some really sick films.Rumor has it he's going to do Kill Bill 3 in about 5-6 years in 2015.

kstuart

Jun 1, 2009

dantheman77 said:
midnight cowboy???!!! wow. that is one of my favs. but you like titanic?? are you a 12 year old girl?? just kidding

Again "overrated" does not mean bad.

Titanic was successful because of teen girls, but it was a very well directed depiction of being on a sinking ship (in the same way that Jurassic Park was a very well directed depiction of being attacked by a dinosaur).

Reservoir Dogs is great

Nothing particularly unusual happens in the film. I grew up in the inner city, and everything in the film was pretty much normal reality.
I think one has to have lived all their life in a clean, affluent, boring suburb to find Reservoir Dogs "exciting" or unusual.

Ramy

Supporting Founder

Last reply 56 minutes ago · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Yespage

Yesterday at 4:57 PM

24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
- Independent of record too! Bonus.
MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
- Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
Going to start resting players?
- The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
- Resting players could make games dumb.
- Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

AZ.

Yesterday at 5:30 PM

Yespage said:
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff

Independent of record too! Bonus.

MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.

I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games

Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff

Going to start resting players?

The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!

Resting players could make games dumb.

Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.

How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 5:47 PM

AZ. said:
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...

AZ.

Yesterday at 9:12 PM

Jimbo said:
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...

Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....

Jimbo

Yesterday at 9:24 PM

AZ. said:
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....

Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...
Edit, Bama plays 4, Georgia plays 3, But Ole Miss plays 5 (didn't expect to see that)

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.

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AZ.

Yesterday at 9:27 PM

Jimbo said:
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.

Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:07 PM

AZ. said:
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?

Seeing theres very little activity in the MLB threads, it wouldn't matter if I posted that the Astros didn't make the Playoffs ...

Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:54 PM

IF they go to 24 teams, and it looks like they will soon ....
Do we Really want Teams with 3 and 4 losses in the Playoffs ?
Is a 3-4 Loss team one thats able to win 4-5 more games against Top teams ?

Yespage

Today at 10:04 AM

AZ. said:
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

A 12 team playoff net should catch any undefeated team. The 12 team playoff also exposed that rankings suck. I mean, we kind of knew already that the rankings weren't particularly reproducible, but we now have the empirical evidence that the rankings suck because judging who is the best among a mickey mouse scheduled football season isn't a rational endeavor. So the 12 team playoff ensures most teams that should make it, do, including the mid-major undefeated team. 8 teams should be able to work as well, but puts greater risk at OSU and Alabama missing the playoff... can't have that.

Which is the run up to my main problem with the 24 team set up is that it is designed to keep the OSU's and Alabama's from missing the playoff. The cartels are ensuring widespread participation for their own cartels to increase the monetary reward to themselves. It is fixing the system while not fixing the outcomes, merely making the regular season game outcomes virtually irrelevant. Sure, a bye for winning the conference would be nice, but we've already seen that byes aren't that influential.

AZ. said:
We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

That is college football in a nutshell. Again, college football isn't about competition, it is about revenue. The entire setup is about making money, from regular season squash games against local jobbers like the WWF days to tax exempt bowl games.

And to add to the first world woes, the college football cartels have made being a College Football fan even more expensive... so they can get paid more.

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meStevo

56 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 5:38 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Today at 10:44 AM

White Christmas - Elvis Presley

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Today at 11:26 AM

Dirty White Boy - Foreigner

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Tickle Me (Dirty, Dirty Feeling) - Elvis Presley

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Dirty Diana - Michael Jackson

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Anony55

Last reply Today at 5:37 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Has Made it Impossible to be a VIP211k Owner

For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.

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Nebugeater

Dec 22, 2025

Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally

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tparker

Sep 30, 2026

Nebugeater said:
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally

Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.

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Nebugeater

Oct 2, 2026

tparker said:
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.

Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion

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Anony55

Yesterday at 6:18 PM

Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.

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dishstaller

Today at 11:31 AM

Nebugeater said:
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion

Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.

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Anony55

Today at 4:19 PM

dishstaller said:
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.

It hasn't changed. When I cancelled my service the other day, they told me I didn't need to return the receiver (which I already knew because I purchased it).

But in addition to that, the young man told me not to sell it, but to take it to a recycling place. The reason he gave for the advice was because 211Ks can no longer be activated.

So as far as the VIP211k goes... once grandpa dies, he's dead.

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telstar_1

Today at 5:37 PM

They tell you to trash it and not to sell simply because they're phasing them out, not particularly because someone might be "confused" into buying it and not be able to activate. They tell people that in every case where they're not acting to get a box back, either from a replacement or service cancel.

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Former member 209992

Last reply Today at 5:37 PM · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Site is slooooow

For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.

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Scott Greczkowski

Yesterday at 3:39 PM

Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 3:42 PM

Scott Greczkowski said:
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.

WTF… …What the Foxbat!

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:29 AM

Foxbat said:
WTF… …What the Foxbat!

wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin

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Foxbat

Today at 12:38 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you

I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 6:03 AM

Foxbat said:
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

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OMG to freaking funny :biggrin

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comfortably_numb

Today at 11:31 AM

Foxbat said:
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

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Not likely since that place closed down.

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Foxbat

Today at 5:37 PM

comfortably_numb said:
Not likely since that place closed down.

You're no fun.

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Therm

Last reply Today at 4:01 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Am I the only one that hates what Dish did to their mobile app?

I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?

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dishstaller

Today at 12:56 PM

I really dislike change for the sake of change

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dishdude

Today at 2:51 PM

I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.

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Therm

Today at 3:39 PM

dishdude said:
I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.

Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"

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navychop

Today at 3:53 PM

"Big salary." Charlie. "?Big?"

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Tampa8

Today at 4:01 PM

Seems in some ways better. Nicer layout, as others said maybe cleaner. Moving ahead in the guide is better.

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Foxbat

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Last reply Today at 3:48 PM · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

New Apple TV 4K released, plus other Apple Home devices.

Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…

Apple TV 4K

Apple TV 4K. New Siri AI and hands-free control. Stunning picture and immersive HomePod surround sound. Works with your Apple and smart home devices.

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Ronnie-

Tuesday at 9:19 PM

Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.

Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.

It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

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navychop

Tuesday at 9:31 PM

Ronnie- said:
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.

navychop

Yesterday at 12:55 PM

Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?

KAB

Yesterday at 7:46 PM

navychop said:
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?

Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:08 AM

navychop said:
Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.

they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what

. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

ncted

Today at 9:00 AM

KAB said:
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!

Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.

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navychop

Today at 2:31 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones

ncted

Today at 3:45 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

I assume you mean services, like iCloud and Apple Music, and not actual software sales. Services have been growing quickly for Apple, but hardware still brings home the bacon. As for where Apple's revenue comes from, the iPhone is still king with 49.58% of revenue as of June 2026. Services comes in second with 28%. iPad, Mac, and Wearables/Home makes up the rest. So, that is 72% coming from hardware. Their profit margin is around 25%, FWIW.

I am skeptical the AppleTV 4k makes them much money on the hardware though, which I suspect is what you were getting at.

ncted

Today at 3:46 PM

navychop said:
What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones

You should have looked in the APP STORE instead.

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navychop

Today at 3:48 PM

Will do!

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cpdretired

Supporting Founder

Last reply Today at 3:29 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Offers

Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.

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bnewt

Sep 23, 2026

Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 11:45 PM

bnewt said:
Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.

look again mine says free for 1 month

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Almighty1

Today at 2:13 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
look again mine says free for 1 month

Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 6:02 AM

Almighty1 said:
Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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wonder why it says that

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Almighty1

Today at 3:07 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
look again mine says free for 1 month

You have a different offer that is free for a shorter timeframe which is different than the one that I and bnewt saw without defining the promotion period as I sent the question to DISH Care via Facebook Messenger and this is the response I got back 20 minutes ago.

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Almighty1

Today at 3:29 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
wonder why it says that

Answer 2 minutes ago from DISH Care via Facebook Messenger:

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