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Maybe they can add it to the platinum HD pack.. so that only those who want it will pay for it

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Thus backing up the view that there have not yet been enough to convince DISH.

They could offer an international news package with CNN-I, BBC-W, CBC, Deutsche Welle, and Radio France International's English TV news service.

juan said:

Maybe they can add it to the platinum HD pack.. so that only those who want it will pay for it

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Dish offers EuroNews on ch 900, ala carte for $1.99 a month, I had it when I had Cablevision back in the day and subscribe to it now. It's a great channel, it's done in a news/magazine format, there are no "talking heads" reading teleprompters and covers everything European from up to the minute news, weather, sports, finances, entertainment, etc. I actually prefer it over BBC World News and I'm happy (and surprised) Dish offers it, however it should be offered in one of their packages instead of having to subscribe to it ala carte.

NO BBC WORLD NEWS OR CNN INTERNATIONAL ON DISH NETWORK

I think we'll see donkeys fly before E* (& D* as well) ever add BBC World News & CNN International. It's beyond me why every cable and satellite company OUTSIDE THE U.S. has these channels but virtually no one in the U.S. carries them. Absolutely crazy!! Do they think that the only people who care about what's going on outside this country are those who speak a foreign language?

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nrholland said:

I think we'll see donkeys fly before E* (& D* as well) ever add BBC World News & CNN International. It's beyond me why every cable and satellite company OUTSIDE THE U.S. has these channels but virtually no one in the U.S. carries them. Absolutely crazy!! Do they think that the only people who care about what's going on outside this country are those who speak a foreign language?

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The following concept is false:

- "News programs tell you what you need to know from what happened today."

News programs are created by a group of people who have a fixed idea of "news" and in order to get a job as a journalist, you have to have the exact same idea of "news" or it doesn't work. If you get a job assembling Toyota Camry's, you have to agree exactly about what a Camry is. The same applies to journalism.

This narrow focus works well for Toyotas, but has created weird results for "news". For example, in any given small town, if two cars crash, killing most of the occupants, that is not news. But if one block away, someone shoots someone with a gun, that is "news".

All the above was proven without a shadow of a doubt a few years ago, when, during a period where the 24-hour news channels did not have much that fit their weird definition of "news", a man in a small town killed his wife. There was absolutely nothing about the man or his wife that was different from millions of other murders and victims in any way. You cannot find any journalist or professor who would claim that the murder is news for anyone outside of the small town where it happened, and maybe not even there.

Nevertheless, one of the national media channels started covering the story, and then, like a pack of sheep, all the others started covering it. This shows that journalists are just a social group.

The punch line is that, during this time, I happened to tune into the UK version of the BBC News online, in order to find out about some local England story. I was surprised to hear " And in the Scott Peterson trial today... "

Sorry, but no channel will tell you "what is going on".

Did the BBC News or CNN International have one story about the housing bubble, about sub-prime mortgages, about credit default swaps, in 2006 ? No. In 2007 even ? No.

kstuart said:

Did the BBC News or CNN International have one story about the housing bubble, about sub-prime mortgages, about credit default swaps, in 2006 ? No. In 2007 even ? No.

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But there is more in-depth coverage about international economic news, issues between Russia and Georgia, the situation in Iran, the coup in Honduras, the political crisis in Japan, Chinese ethnic problems (need I go on?). Try to find much of that on CNN-Domestic, MSNBC, or FAUX News. Good luck!

Also, give your remote a workout and see if lack of popularity really limits carriage of a channel.

leegart said:

But there is more in-depth coverage about international economic news, issues between Russia and Georgia, the situation in Iran, the coup in Honduras, the political crisis in Japan, Chinese ethnic problems (need I go on?). Try to find much of that on CNN-Domestic, MSNBC, or FAUX News. Good luck!.

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Actually, there has been more coverage of Iran on CNN than on BBC World, mainly because the latter is only 25 minutes long, and CNN often devotes a full hour to certain issues, such as Iran (note that is not in Prime Time, if you want news from CNN, you need to record the 4pm-6pm ET slot).
But you dodged my point, and you are continuing to follow certain news items because news channels say they are important.

kstuart said:

Actually, there has been more coverage of Iran on CNN than on BBC World, mainly because the latter is only 25 minutes long, and CNN often devotes a full hour to certain issues, such as Iran (note that is not in Prime Time, if you want news from CNN, you need to record the 4pm-6pm ET slot).
But you dodged my point, and you are continuing to follow certain news items because news channels say they are important.

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That's rather condescending. I follow news stories because I think they're important. Those stations cater to the desire for important news. I have travelled oversees many times. I can make judgments about what is important. Other viewers also. Give us a little credit Mr. kstuart.

BBC refused to broadcast the news, re: the entry of US troops into Baghdad. BBC has been a leftist organization for years now.

leegart said:

That's rather condescending. I follow news stories because I think they're important. Those stations cater to the desire for important news. I have travelled oversees many times. I can make judgments about what is important. Other viewers also. Give us a little credit Mr. kstuart.

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You cannot make a judgment if you do not get the information in the first place.

6 Billion people are living 24 hours a day, so they are doing 144 Billion Hours of actions every day.

So, what you get on all of the media (including all other countries) is a tiny fraction of what human beings are doing.

You appear not to have read my longer post which disproves the concept that "those stations cater to the desire for important news"...

kstuart said:

You cannot make a judgment if you do not get the information in the first place.

6 Billion people are living 24 hours a day, so they are doing 144 Billion Hours of actions every day.

So, what you get on all of the media (including all other countries) is a tiny fraction of what human beings are doing.

You appear not to have read my longer post which disproves the concept that "those stations cater to the desire for important news"...

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I appear to have read it and what you say is obvious. Every human being is influenced by their own experiences. The track records of these channels is that they do the best job of covering what many people perceive as important news. Other networks do a less good job. Of course there are no absolutes and no one is perfect. No one covers everything.

Your statement doesn't disprove the concept that some news operations are better than others and have a track record of making consistently better editorial decisions.

I stand by the fact that I have seen the best coverage from BBC and CNN-I. Your profound observations don't change that.

schmataboy said:

Dish offers EuroNews on ch 900, ala carte for $1.99 a month, I had it when I had Cablevision back in the day and subscribe to it now. It's a great channel, it's done in a news/magazine format, there are no "talking heads" reading teleprompters and covers everything European from up to the minute news, weather, sports, finances, entertainment, etc. I actually prefer it over BBC World News and I'm happy (and surprised) Dish offers it, however it should be offered in one of their packages instead of having to subscribe to it ala carte.

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Well. I lost my favorite Euronews channel when 148w was taken down. Cannot get it in Alaska anymore since, I think it is on Conus beam only on 118...

leegart said:

"this thread duplicates 2058320 previous ones on the subject"

Thus backing up the view that there have not yet been enough to convince DISH.

They could offer an international news package with CNN-I, BBC-W, CBC, Deutsche Welle, and Radio France International's English TV news service.

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Yes they could and should but apparently won't.