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shakti4u

Last reply Nov 5, 2004 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

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Hi just joined the forum and I am glad this area exists for DISH customers

Here is the issue and hope someone can shed some light

Last week the DISH folks installed an 811 and a 522 along with a DPP44 switch which is connected to a Super dish and a Dish 500 (for the must carry +CBSHD). I then requested for an additional 811 which they came out today to install and the problems starts

The 811 would go through the switch check get the satellite signals but fails at the program download and then shut down, they went through 3 DISH 811's with the same end result. Please note the power inserted was never installed because with the 811 and 522 it was not required. We proceeded to test with the power inserter in place between the DPP44 switch and the new 811, still no luck.

The guys have left and re scheduled for another day. In the mean time any thoughts on what is going on.

1. Should the power inserter be between the DPP44 Switch and the 522 (Please note the inserter is in position 1, per the directions on the DPP44 Switch)

2. Should we try only one output to the 522 vs the two and then separate at the 522 to feed the two tuners (I have read posts here about this)

3. Can't believe the 3 811' are all bad. but I am leaning towards that theory since my existing 811 had no problems connecting in the new room where the new 811 was going

Thanks for all the help.

SK

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nippjas

Nov 3, 2004

shakti4u said:
Only question is should the power inserter be closer to the switch or the receiver

Doesn't really matter. I originally had it at the switch in my basement, but I moved it to the receiver when I added a UPS to my home theater.

shakti4u

Nov 3, 2004

I tried two scenarios

a. the Second 811 was swaped out for the 1st one and it failed to download the program info
b. it was then placed in the room adjacent to the 1st 811 I would say the distance from the switch to both receivers are the same coming from the attic and it still failed

I will reset the switch one more time before they arrive and also make sure the 522 feeds are from 3&4 per one poster above keeping the two 811's on port 1 & 2
I will also make sure all other receivers are in either standby mode or disconnected from power so that the 811 has no other potential interferences and has the power inserter attached closer to the receiver..

Thanks again for all the responses

SK

shakti4u

Nov 5, 2004

Resolved

Okay here is the solution. The installer was out here today and ran into the same problem i.e the 811 would shutdown after the switch check and during the satellite program download and he had to call a senior trainer for advice
On his 2 way radio the senior trainer confirmed that the 811 were flaky and required a rather cluegy process

Step 1: Run the switch check without the receiver connected to the switch and wait for it to come back to the satellite signal screen. Obviosuly it will be red on all the satellite ports with no signal
Step 2: Connect the receiver to the switch and then try to obtain a signal by playing with the transponder and the satellite, usually 119 and 11

Step 3: Cancel out of the screen and then the receiver tries to go through a 38 step process. (I think its trying to reset and download all the software again). can somebody fill in on what's going on in this step.This was the crucial step. Takes about 40 mins to complete

Step 4: Actaully not a step but after the above process the reciever tries to download the satellite program..sorry but I did not have a screen shot, but this is the step that you would have been on if everything was done as normal. The minute we saw the green bars we new we were good. Takes about 20 mins to complete

Step 5: You will get a message that the reciever is not activated, you call Dish with the serials etc....

Thanks to all that helped here
FYI the dishpro power inserter played no role, i.e the switch worked with or without this piece. however my setup has the inserter and per the installer is req, although he was baffled to as to why the whole setup worked even without the inserter.

larrystotler

Nov 5, 2004

Sounds like they may be having problems with new receivers taking the d/l from the DP+44. They had a problem with 721s taking a d/l from a DP Quad before. Actually, E* used to recommend downloading the receiver from the 119 with no switch installed. They used to tell you not to run a switch check before downloading............

SimpleSimon

Nov 5, 2004

What larry said.

As for the post prior, "Step 3" sounds like Legacy switch detection as in "Test ## of 38". It should NOT take anywhere NEAR 40 minutes. IIRC, the test timeout is 10 seconds, so we're looking at a little over 6 minutes maximum.

Finally, the "senior trainer" was telling you to do part of the generic cure-all "switch matrix reset" that is often mentioned.

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dishstaller said:
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.

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Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

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All DMA's now Western Arc

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Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

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Jimbo

Friday at 11:17 PM

Strega said:
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.

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Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.

I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.

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Mister B said:
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.

can't forget the little blue m&m's

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slow_poke_pete said:
can't forget the little blue m&m's

That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!

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That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!

My gf is 29 years younger than me :shh

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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink

He does not have the resources aka $$$ compared to Elon Musk as in reality, Elon can eat Charlie for lunch or even mop the floor with Charlie if he wanted to.

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ment to 20 yrs dam phone

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Dish should use both satellite and internet like they do now for all channels. Use either or or both.... like now but subscribers could choose something like internet only, or sat only, or both.

They have sling tv wich sucks ass it needs a major upgrade

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