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Last reply Jul 1, 2009 · posted in The Dish Network Uplink Center (archive)

6/24/2009 12:29pm - Uplink Activity Report - 56 changes

SatelliteGuys.US DishNetwork Uplink Activity Report - 6/24/2009 12:29pm - 56 changes

Uplink Comparison Range: 06/24/2009 12:14P - 06/24/2009 12:29P

Channel Additions:
621 - GPUNJ [MPEG2 SD] added to Anik F3 118.7W TP 30 ConUS beam (NA)
6550(6) - WABG [MPEG2 SD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 16 Spotbeam 38 (NA)(Greenwood, MS-ABC)
6551(15) - WXVT [MPEG2 SD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 16 Spotbeam 38 (NA)(Greenville, MS-CBS)
6552(32) - WABGD [MPEG2 SD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 16 Spotbeam 38 (NA)(Greenwood, MS-ABC)
6553(25) - WMAO [MPEG2 SD] added to Ciel-2 129W TP 16 Spotbeam 38 (NA)(Greenwood, MS-PBS)

Channel Removals:
596 - GLOBO (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 11 ConUS beam
640 - TVJPN (A) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 11 ConUS beam
643 - ARTMV (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 11 ConUS beam
644 - LBC (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 11 ConUS beam
647 - NILE (A) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 11 ConUS beam
648 - FUTUR (A) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 11 ConUS beam
649 - DUBAI (A) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 11 ConUS beam
659 - DUBSP (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 11 ConUS beam
670 - MBC (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 11 ConUS beam
776 - ALARA (A) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 11 ConUS beam
785 - SETMX (A) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 11 ConUS beam
792 - SET (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 11 ConUS beam
5253 - KBTZ (NA) removed from Ciel-2 129W TP 05 Spotbeam 12(Butte, MT-FOX)
5263 - KLMN (NA) removed from Ciel-2 129W TP 13 Spotbeam 6(Great Falls, MT-FOX)
5273 - KMMF (NA) removed from Ciel-2 129W TP 06 Spotbeam 11(Missoula, MT-FOX)
6112 - ALARA (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 01 ConUS beam
6113 - ARTMV (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 01 ConUS beam
6114 - LBC (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 25 ConUS beam
6115 - MBC (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 25 ConUS beam
6121 - DUBAI (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 09 ConUS beam
6122 - DUBSP (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 29 ConUS beam
6123 - FUTUR (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 09 ConUS beam
6124 - GLOBO (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 11 ConUS beam
6125 - SETMX (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 11 ConUS beam
6127 - SET (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 11 ConUS beam
6136 - NILE (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 09 ConUS beam
6142 - TVJPN (A) (H) removed from EchoStar1 148W TP 11 ConUS beam
7123 - KMMF (A) (H) removed from EchoStar10 110W TP 31 Spotbeam 37 (Missoula, MT-FOX)
7224 - KWBM (A) (H) removed from EchoStar10 110W TP 12 Spotbeam 20 (Harrison, AR-N/A)
7224 - KWBM (A) (H) removed from EchoStar8 77W TP 17 ConUS beam(Harrison, AR-N/A)
7923 - WBIF (A) (H) removed from EchoStar10 110W TP 04 Spotbeam 07 (Marianna, FL-RTN)
8539 - KUTF (A) (H) removed from EchoStar10 110W TP 23 Spotbeam 34 (Logan, UT-N/A)
8854 - KLMN (A) (H) removed from EchoStar10 110W TP 04 Spotbeam 36 (Great Falls, MT-FOX)
9090 - KBTZ (A) (H) removed from EchoStar10 110W TP 29 Spotbeam 37 (Butte, MT-FOX)
9130 - WNGS (A) (H) removed from EchoStar10 110W TP 27 Spotbeam 09 (Springville, NY-RTN)

Channel Package Flag Changes:
601 - ARTSP [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 17 ConUS beam changed to Available
601 - ARTSP [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 14 ConUS beam changed to Available
606 - BBCAR [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 17 ConUS beam changed to Available
606 - BBCAR [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 14 ConUS beam changed to Available
777 - HKYAT [MPEG2 SD] - Anik F3 118.7W TP 17 ConUS beam changed to Available
777 - HKYAT [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar3 61.5W TP 14 ConUS beam changed to Available
829 - DNFYI [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar7 119W TP 17 ConUS beam changed to Available
5180(7) - WKBW [MPEG4 HD] - Echostar12 61.5W TP 13 Spotbeam 4 changed to Available (H)(Buffalo, NY-ABC)
5251(13) - KVAL [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 14 Spotbeam 10 changed to Available (H)(Eugene, OR-CBS)
5251(2) - KBCI [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 04 Spotbeam 11 changed to Available (H)(Boise, ID-CBS)
5251(29) - KIMA [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 11 Spotbeam 5 changed to Available (H)(Yakima, WA-CBS)
5261(3) - KIDK [MPEG4 HD] - Ciel-2 129W TP 07 Spotbeam 12 changed to Available (H)(Idaho Falls, ID-CBS)
9073(48) - KVSN [MPEG2 SD] - EchoStar10 110W TP 04 Spotbeam 30 changed to Available (H)(Pueblo, CO-N/A)
19216 - HUNTV [DATA] - EchoStar11 110W TP 19 ConUS beam changed to Available

Channel Renames:
9645(99) - DPTC - EchoStar11 110W TP 10 ConUS beam renamed to V12 (A)
9645(99) - DPTC - EchoStar8 77W TP 29 ConUS beam renamed to V12 (A)

Channels in the system: 6562
(A) = Available to subscribers
(NA) = Not Available
(H) = Hidden from non-subscribers

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Raymie

Jun 24, 2009

All the missing locals are Equity Media stations without digital channels. They're auctioning off their stations. The Fox Montana chain is going to Max Media (which means that it could be a short turnaround for their return), but some of these are going to Daystar never to be seen on Dish again.

spec1alk

Jun 25, 2009

Raymie said:
All the missing locals are Equity Media stations without digital channels. They're auctioning off their stations. The Fox Montana chain is going to Max Media (which means that it could be a short turnaround for their return), but some of these are going to Daystar never to be seen on Dish again.

What are my options for getting a Fox channel? If I call E* and complain, will I get an east or west coast Fox? Hopefully in HD? Am I stuck waiting until Max Media gets Fox back up in Bozeman?

digiblur

Jun 27, 2009

What transponder are you missing?

Mr Tony

Jun 27, 2009

spec1alk said:
What are my options for getting a Fox channel? If I call E* and complain, will I get an east or west coast Fox? Hopefully in HD? Am I stuck waiting until Max Media gets Fox back up in Bozeman?

Dish cant sell distants but AAD can (link is noted in previous post)

What doesnt make sense is those stations in MT (KBTZ Butte, KMMF Missoula, KLMN Great Falls) ARE still there on satellite. Equity uplinks them on Galaxy 18 satellite (just watched them last night) and KLMN is still on Bresnan cable. Equity shut down the OTA stations because they have to. The LP station in Bozeman on 32 **might** still be up since LP stations didnt have to shut down.

Dish could have grabbed the signal from satellite instead of OTA for the time being...but I guess they decided not to

digiblur

Jun 27, 2009

I bet the retrans is for OTA signal and there's probably no KU linear receive equipment at the POP.

Jim S.

Jun 27, 2009

digiblur said:
What transponder are you missing?

14 on 61.5, the one they just added three Arabic channels in preview mode to. I don't care about the channels, but I'm wondering what's wrong with my setup. 61.5 is on a Dish 300, connected to a Dish 500 for 110 and 119. I don't remember what the name for that is, when the switch is built into the Dish 500 LNB.

Mr Tony

Jun 28, 2009

digiblur said:
I bet the retrans is for OTA signal and there's probably no KU linear receive equipment at the POP.

probably....but couldn't they have received them somewhere else at an uplink?

chegui413

Jul 1, 2009

Locals

Ive had dishnetwork for 3 years and im still waiting for my locals to show up they keep saying soon soon and my patience is running out.. im in springfield,ma and we dont even get the standard locals so im switching before the year is up..........

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 22 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

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So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Yesterday at 2:42 PM

See You in September - The Happenings

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You Look Like You Love Me - Ella Langley

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Yesterday at 10:20 PM

See Me Feel Me - The Who

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Take It Easy On Me - Little River Band

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22 minutes ago

TAKE IT As It Comes-The Doors

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SuperDish_Fan23

Last reply Today at 1:50 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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dishdude

Today at 1:45 AM

They didn't sell many, they were pricey and not out long. Quickly got replaced by the Hopper.

telstar_1

Today at 1:50 AM

They were high-end specialty, somewhat buggy and the 612/622/722 just overwhelmed it in popularity.

Former member 208119

Last reply Yesterday at 11:14 PM · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio

SXM still giving discounts

My year was almost up and we got the new bill for a year of service for $ 360.00 insane sat radio is becoming like cable!!! i logged into my acct and hopped onto chat and told the rep that i wanted to cancel. she understood my concern and went quiet for a few minutes. i figured that she was canceling my service. she comes back and said that she seen that i have been a sub since 07 and then offers me the same package for a year for 120.00 with taxes and fee's!!! i grabbed it. after almost having a stroke :biggrin

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Bruno

Oct 4, 2026

What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $4.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.

Jimbo

Oct 4, 2026

Bruno said:
What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.

Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.

Bruno

Yesterday at 11:16 AM

Jimbo said:
Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.

I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!

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TRG

Yesterday at 11:55 AM

Bruno said:
I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!

I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.

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Bruno

Yesterday at 12:08 PM

TRG said:
I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.

yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 5:08 PM

Bruno said:
yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.

You get an email every month to let you know they are billing you for the next month.

Foxbat

Yesterday at 11:14 PM

Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango

The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.

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Peter Parker

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Yesterday at 10:15 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.

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bookworm370

Saturday at 3:17 PM

Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

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naptime

Yesterday at 1:05 AM

I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

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reubenray

Yesterday at 6:14 AM

bookworm370 said:
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.

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Bobby

Yesterday at 10:32 AM

naptime said:
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

This has been an ongoing issue. A fix is coming, probably in the next software version.

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 1:01 PM

reubenray said:
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning.

Had a customer call recently saying their remote was really acting up, some buttons no longer functioned. Told them to reboot the Hopper....problem fixed.
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

https://www.amazon.com/Have-Tried-Turning-Again-T-Shirt/dp/B07G1ZV9W9/ref=sr_1_11?crid=3NNRAEED195WV&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.86TxUTPcw48CRYlDcLntwpMxbPDBfjiLu4wMZGX3VN6ajG_cFCuoDBJT7pS9CW2mjThKlke5Z6dlXH8bJKkQF4s892wGVU1ca_00S0BQz6F15V30_4szIdWeycvw3_zoVtsULQASM8bGcgvsKms930xApC43y_-YBVN0Q8Xsf_csSqXcmhWpresARdXHfx2VazllrXI8asduvrbnk9S3CGnzjqnVTkjzFSpSQLdQKA6Dx_7UfbQIBBJsqAmQwwtDGqM0YKVIkjV4ARgVJvJ69vLPhxV0m8pkJQd_2w_QX_A.-jSy9OqrqWdxPBsgZGia1hHMbvDAKxxhRn9kK1EBdCc&dib_tag=se&keywords=have%2Byou%2Btried%2Bturning%2Bit%2Boff%2Band%2Bon%2Bagain&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1792342839&sprefix=have%2Byou%2Btried%2B%2Caps%2C265&sr=8-11&customId=B0752XJYNL&customizationToken=MC_Assembly_1%23B0752XJYNL&th=1&psc=1

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cpdretired

Yesterday at 6:58 PM

dishstaller said:
Had a customer call recently saying their remote was really acting up, some buttons no longer functioned. Told them to reboot the Hopper....problem fixed.
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

https://www.amazon.com/Have-Tried-Turning-Again-T-Shirt/dp/B07G1ZV9W9/ref=sr_1_11?crid=3NNRAEED195WV&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.86TxUTPcw48CRYlDcLntwpMxbPDBfjiLu4wMZGX3VN6ajG_cFCuoDBJT7pS9CW2mjThKlke5Z6dlXH8bJKkQF4s892wGVU1ca_00S0BQz6F15V30_4szIdWeycvw3_zoVtsULQASM8bGcgvsKms930xApC43y_-YBVN0Q8Xsf_csSqXcmhWpresARdXHfx2VazllrXI8asduvrbnk9S3CGnzjqnVTkjzFSpSQLdQKA6Dx_7UfbQIBBJsqAmQwwtDGqM0YKVIkjV4ARgVJvJ69vLPhxV0m8pkJQd_2w_QX_A.-jSy9OqrqWdxPBsgZGia1hHMbvDAKxxhRn9kK1EBdCc&dib_tag=se&keywords=have%2Byou%2Btried%2Bturning%2Bit%2Boff%2Band%2Bon%2Bagain&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1792342839&sprefix=have%2Byou%2Btried%2B%2Caps%2C265&sr=8-11&customId=B0752XJYNL&customizationToken=MC_Assembly_1%23B0752XJYNL&th=1&psc=1

Works every time. My wife needs one.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 7:14 PM

dishstaller said:
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

Here's the one I need:

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:15 PM

Foxbat said:
Here's the one I need:

View attachment 194877

Just ordered one....that's great.

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Yesterday at 10:06 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby

Yesterday at 10:27 AM

Regular$5.999
Premium$6.399
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

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harshness

Yesterday at 11:30 AM

I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

dishstaller

Yesterday at 12:32 PM

Bobby said:
Regular$5.999
Premium$6.399

Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

Last night it was about $4.17 gas, $6,19 diesel.

harshness

Yesterday at 2:04 PM

dishstaller said:
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

On the West Coast, a 40-cent differential is common. It used to be 30 cents before the prices rose above $3.

A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic), which is a whole different discussion.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 9:43 PM

Here in Indiana, the difference between Regular and Premium is usually a dollar, but some charge even more:

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:06 PM

harshness said:
A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic),

Both non-ethanol and prem run about the same....buck more. When we were up in TN it was a buck more up there as well.

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jokeworm

Last reply Yesterday at 10:03 PM · posted in What's Cooking?

What's for dinner ?

Ok, I'm bored .... actually - to be more precise - I'm bored of eating the same rotation of 9 or 10 meals that are currently my "go-to" meals. My wife works the long hours - I work from home as and when i feel like it ... which means i generally do most of the cooking ... and so by default - i also make out the shopping list ...

We cook at home 5 or even 6 nights a week - but we always seem to fall back on the same old tried and tested "quick and easy but tastes ok" meals. Week in week out.

Pot Roast - mash and Peas.
Spaghetti
Chicken Pasta in cheese sauce.
Curry & rice
(these are some of mine)

Now it's not that I'm not adventurous in the kitchen ... I'll try anything once or twice ... but we all do it. Unless your name is Martha Stewart or Rachel Ray .. we all eventually fall back on our 8-10 favorite "meals"

So i thought - if we shared some of our own go-to meals with each other ... we might be able to add a few "new" ones to our own arsenal of meals.

So again - I ask you ...

What's for dinner tonight ?

Please give me something new to add to my rotation ... its our weekly shop tomorrow - so i want to pull together a few idea's and try and eat a meal each day next week that I've never had before .. or at least something that is not on my current "go-to" meal plan.

What meal do you always seem to fall back on in your house ? Maybe its something that I've never tried or not had in a while. I need inspiration !! I've got a blank shopping list in front of me - and nothing sounds good .. HELP !

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TRG

Sep 29, 2026

Beef and vegetable stew with buttermilk biscuits. Water.
It seemed appropriate on an unusually cold and wet evening in New Mexico.

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Bobby

Oct 12, 2026

Chili Cheesebugers, Tater Tots.

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TRG

Oct 12, 2026

I made shrimp parmesan with spaghetti and a salad.

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 9:47 PM

venison lasagna

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:03 PM

Smoked some salmon on the grill while enjoying some Blue Moon beer. Kinda cool tonight so I fired up the heaters. Here in FL, we fire up heaters once the temps get below 60 :cool

As for the salmon, I seared them first, then flipped them off to the side not over the coals and brushed on some lemon pepper marinade followed by some salmon seasoning. Threw some hickory chips on the coals and then closed the vents to about 10% airflow. Yum.

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osu1991

Pub Member / Supporter

Last reply Yesterday at 8:46 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

EV News

America’s Fastest-Growing EV State Isn’t California—Not by a Long Shot

New data shows electric vehicle adoption is increasingly driven by state policies, electricity prices and charging access—not federal incentives

www.autoweek.com

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.

:eek

It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.

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navychop

Sep 22, 2026

Servant's problem.

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meStevo

Sep 26, 2026

tomwellborn3rd (@wellborn.net)

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bsky.app

Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.

harshness

Sep 27, 2026

The EV company to watch out for is SAIC. They seem likely to take over Government Motors at some point.

GM originally struck a JV deal with SAIC to gain access to China. Now SAIC has taken China back with the substantial library of technology GM shared and they're looking to export to Mexico, South America, the Middle East, and Asia-Pacific.

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osu1991

Oct 9, 2026

View: https://youtu.be/AzErJdWUDTE?si=sdAjeOen3sKm8DV9

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osu1991

Yesterday at 8:46 PM

US EV sales are rising again. Here’s why the recovery is set to last.

Even though sales tanked last year after the end of federal incentives, the American EV sector is on the mend as drivers face sky-high gasoline prices.

www.canarymedia.com

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Yesterday at 7:52 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Microsoft Defender Arriving on Linux

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO_nW-BTlv4

Direct YouTube Link - Microsoft Defender Arriving on Linux
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed

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Ham Radio 2.0

Yesterday at 7:22 PM · posted in Ham Radio 2.0

LIVE!

Time for another AWESOME video from Ham Radio 2.0!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDeuQ1SLkQU

Direct YouTube Link - LIVE!
Ham Radio 2.0 Website
Ham Radio 2.0 on Facebook

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Ramy

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Last reply Yesterday at 6:34 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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osu1991

Oct 12, 2026

View: https://youtu.be/HjQO7IWmC50?is=JrnzyTNTv5MoX24u

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osu1991

Oct 12, 2026

View: https://youtu.be/Dj-pH4x_Z1Q?is=CHrZoqR0K3GnQb35

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Howard Simmons

Saturday at 7:45 PM

osu1991 said:
View: https://youtu.be/Dj-pH4x_Z1Q?is=CHrZoqR0K3GnQb35

Down Goes the SEC

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Foxbat

Saturday at 8:17 PM

osu1991 said:

They ought to have fun with this… :devilish

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osu1991

Saturday at 10:14 PM

Foxbat said:
They ought to have fun with this…

Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll call

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reubenray

Yesterday at 6:19 AM

A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 6:34 PM

Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"

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