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lindenray

Last reply Jul 10, 2009 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

dish pissed me off

yesterday I tried to get an earlier time for my install on july 4th.well when I talked to someone they said there was no install on that day.and yet they charged my credit card 2.00 for the install.well i'm pissed off so I wrote to ceo@dishnetwork.hopefully they will help like in the past.I been a customer for many years.I been looking into directv and if I don't my install I will go to directv.any more advice.and Im not going to time warner.

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lindenray

Jun 28, 2009

dish csr told me it will be on july 4th 2009 between 8am and 12pm.now cable works on holidays why not dish.

Fiachra

Jun 30, 2009

lindenray said:
SNIPPED
cable works on holidays why not dish.

LOL
Cable around here, NOT.
Around here you have to sit home and take time off while they come in the 3rd hour of a four hour window.

The Insider

Jul 8, 2009

Fiachra said:
LOL
Cable around here, NOT.
Around here you have to sit home and take time off while they come in the 3rd hour of a four hour window.

Someone is getting the work done in the first hour. Someone is getting it done in the second.. I guess your getting it done in the third.

FredC

Jul 8, 2009

I work in a 24/7 365 job. I knew that when I signed on. Yes, I'm in a union and get OT for holidays (I am lucky, I know). I see no reason why a sat installer should have to work on a holiday. ANY holiday. TV is not a life or death need. Why are the people who are getting the install home?? Cause it's a holiday! HOWEVER, when I make an appointment, you had better be there when you say you are going to. My time is as valuable as yours. Sitting around all day for the TV guy is not how I want to spend my day off. If you tell me 8-12, damn it, be there between 8-12! At least call if you can't make the time. Not at 11:58 either. Maybe if there were a little more respect ON BOTH SIDES of the fence installers could enjoy the holidays with their families (like they should) instead of with strangers! Just my 2 cents worth.

dishcomm

Jul 8, 2009

FredC said:
I work in a 24/7 365 job. I knew that when I signed on. Yes, I'm in a union and get OT for holidays (I am lucky, I know). I see no reason why a sat installer should have to work on a holiday. ANY holiday. TV is not a life or death need. Why are the people who are getting the install home?? Cause it's a holiday! HOWEVER, when I make an appointment, you had better be there when you say you are going to. My time is as valuable as yours. Sitting around all day for the TV guy is not how I want to spend my day off. If you tell me 8-12, damn it, be there between 8-12! At least call if you can't make the time. Not at 11:58 either. Maybe if there were a little more respect ON BOTH SIDES of the fence installers could enjoy the holidays with their families (like they should) instead of with strangers! Just my 2 cents worth.

I admit there are far too many no call or no shows on appointments. I hear it all the time.
One of my favorite sayings is "never underestimate the value of a phone call".
BTW just ti be fair, showing up and being on time for appointments cuts both ways.
Cannot tell you how many times I will confirm a job and est time of arrival only to have a missing or not at home customer.
We are required to wait 30 mins, then tag the door and leave.
Then the rocket scientist calls at the end of the day to complain that we didn't show up. Of course we keep a copy of the door tag and we give a general description of the dwelling to dispatch. Then the customer's explanation changes to " well I had to go to the store and I lost track of time. Can you come out later? I'll be back around 5 or 6 pm. I really need my tv"..
I am not kidding. This nonsense happens all the time.
Appointments....two way street.

mooneye14

Jul 9, 2009

The advantage that other people that work on holidays have over technicians is they know when their work shift will end. If they're scheduled from 8-4 or whatever that's it. Tech's might have to work a 15 hour day if they get some nightmare jobs or have a 2 hour drive. Scheduling plans is pretty hard when they never know when they'll be home. That kinda ruins the fun of a holiday.

lakebum431

Jul 9, 2009

mooneye14 said:
The advantage that other people that work on holidays have over technicians is they know when their work shift will end. If they're scheduled from 8-4 or whatever that's it. Tech's might have to work a 15 hour day if they get some nightmare jobs or have a 2 hour drive. Scheduling plans is pretty hard when they never know when they'll be home. That kinda ruins the fun of a holiday.

Give me a break. I'm in a client service job. I work for one of the largest accounting firms in the world. I work more hours than most people and am well compensated for it. Because of that I've had to change many plans over the years. Vacations changed/cancelled, holidays missed out of town, dinners missed while working on a deadline, etc. Sometimes if I don't get my job done on time it will literally cost a company millions of dollars. But that is just part of the job. I knew it signing on and I know it today. If I ever decide that I don't want to do that anymore then I'll find somewhere else to work, I won't tell my clients it is their fault that I am leaving because they had a deadline.

dishcomm

Jul 9, 2009

lakebum431 said:
Give me a break. I'm in a client service job. I work for one of the largest accounting firms in the world. I work more hours than most people and am well compensated for it. Because of that I've had to change many plans over the years. Vacations changed/cancelled, holidays missed out of town, dinners missed while working on a deadline, etc. Sometimes if I don't get my job done on time it will literally cost a company millions of dollars. But that is just part of the job. I knew it signing on and I know it today. If I ever decide that I don't want to do that anymore then I'll find somewhere else to work, I won't tell my clients it is their fault that I am leaving because they had a deadline.

Ok ..the one cosntant seen here from the "give me a break" people is they all receive premuim compensation for holiday work or as you say "well compensated". We do/are not. There is no time and half or addtional per job pay. And for you to equate critical multi million dollar accounting jobs to pay television is disengenuous at best.
Apples and oranges.
The other factor is that TV has become like a narcotic for some. They don't care about anything or anyone else as long as they get their tv "fix". If that requires a person to give up holidays which for most are family time, so be it. Now to be fair, it is NOT the fault of a customer if their job is scheduled on a holiday. That is NO excuse to perform one's job poorly.
When holidays pop up, we are given the option of working. We are open for business but the office staff is off. I opt out of holidays. While others do not mind working. It is what it is . If a worker agrees to put in time on holidays, that is their choice.

Fiachra

Jul 9, 2009

The Insider said:
Someone is getting the work done in the first hour. Someone is getting it done in the second.. I guess your getting it done in the third.

No kidding? Wow, I never thought of that. All I thought about was my missing an afternoon of work. Silly me. Now to find that ignore feature.

Fiachra

Jul 9, 2009

dishcomm said:
I admit there are far too many no call or no shows on appointments. I hear it all the time.
One of my favorite sayings is "never underestimate the value of a phone call".
BTW just ti be fair, showing up and being on time for appointments cuts both ways.
Cannot tell you how many times I will confirm a job and est time of arrival only to have a missing or not at home customer.
We are required to wait 30 mins, then tag the door and leave.
Then the rocket scientist calls at the end of the day to complain that we didn't show up. Of course we keep a copy of the door tag and we give a general description of the dwelling to dispatch. Then the customer's explanation changes to " well I had to go to the store and I lost track of time. Can you come out later? I'll be back around 5 or 6 pm. I really need my tv"..
I am not kidding. This nonsense happens all the time.
Appointments....two way street.

Right on. It does work both ways. Making you wait while Jack Customer is out doing who knows what knowing that a job is scheduled is just wrong. "Never underestimate the value of a phone call", I like that. People forget, we are all human. Expecting a person to come right back with an instant reschedule now that they are home is plan selfish. Customer's fault there so they should go back in line.

Fiachra

Jul 9, 2009

dishcomm said:
questions. Were you made aware that the tech has an arrival time window? Or did you believe you were supposed to see a tech at a specific hour?
Were you under the impression the tech that had your work order had your job as the only one assigned to him that day?
Are you not aware that there are other customers every bit as important as you?
Was it your impression that the tech assigned your job was you hired help for the day?
PLease answer these questions as honsestly as you are able.

My example was that of cable in this area. No need at all for the tone of your reply. Some of your previous posts would indicate you are capable of better.

My Dish guy was outstanding. They seem to have a better approach to install appointments. So much so that I'll stick with Dish and wait for channels to get added rather than complain and leave for Direct.

dishcomm

Jul 9, 2009

Fiachra said:
My example was that of cable in this area. No need at all for the tone of your reply. Some of your previous posts would indicate you are capable of better.

My Dish guy was outstanding. They seem to have a better approach to install appointments. So much so that I'll stick with Dish and wait for channels to get added rather than complain and leave for Direct.

i read you subsequent post and went back and deleted my questions.
You were quicker than I.
I read your post the other person that you were going to put on ignore. \
I wanted to know if you were or were not an understanding person. Hence the tone of my queries. You last post indicated that you indeed are understanding .
Kudos.

lakebum431

Jul 10, 2009

dishcomm said:
Ok ..the one cosntant seen here from the "give me a break" people is they all receive premuim compensation for holiday work or as you say "well compensated". We do/are not. There is no time and half or addtional per job pay. And for you to equate critical multi million dollar accounting jobs to pay television is disengenuous at best.
Apples and oranges.
The other factor is that TV has become like a narcotic for some. They don't care about anything or anyone else as long as they get their tv "fix". If that requires a person to give up holidays which for most are family time, so be it. Now to be fair, it is NOT the fault of a customer if their job is scheduled on a holiday. That is NO excuse to perform one's job poorly.
When holidays pop up, we are given the option of working. We are open for business but the office staff is off. I opt out of holidays. While others do not mind working. It is what it is . If a worker agrees to put in time on holidays, that is their choice.

If you don't feel that you are being fairly compensated for your job then you need to find another one. I don't get something extra because I make changes to my schedule or work on a holiday (other than the appreciation from my client for doing a good job). I feel that based on my level of compensation it is only fair that I'm available when they need me. The customers for an installer are their client. If an installer doesn't feel that they are being compensated enough to work for their client when asked then, again, I see no reason to complain, I see an opportunity to find another job/profession. Lots of opportunities out there, you just have to find what is best for you.

The Insider

Jul 10, 2009

Fiachra said:
Right on. It does work both ways. Making you wait while Jack Customer is out doing who knows what knowing that a job is scheduled is just wrong. "Never underestimate the value of a phone call", I like that. People forget, we are all human. Expecting a person to come right back with an instant reschedule now that they are home is plan selfish. Customer's fault there so they should go back in line.

The customer pays your check. Of course they expect everything.

The Insider

Jul 10, 2009

Fiachra said:
No kidding? Wow, I never thought of that. All I thought about was my missing an afternoon of work. Silly me. Now to find that ignore feature.

Pure class...

dishcomm

Jul 10, 2009

lakebum431 said:
If you don't feel that you are being fairly compensated for your job then you need to find another one. I don't get something extra because I make changes to my schedule or work on a holiday (other than the appreciation from my client for doing a good job). I feel that based on my level of compensation it is only fair that I'm available when they need me. The customers for an installer are their client. If an installer doesn't feel that they are being compensated enough to work for their client when asked then, again, I see no reason to complain, I see an opportunity to find another job/profession. Lots of opportunities out there, you just have to find what is best for you.

I never said I "felt" (BTW I do not feel, I think) I was undercompensated for holiday work.
That is not the issue. This is not a pissing contest.
You stated very clearly, you were "well compensated". So where's the problem.
I pointed out that there are posters on here who have an agenda( my tv comes first) that believe people who work in the tv provider business are not worthy of getting time off on holidays. DO you want to me to retrieve and repost these comments?
I put a question to the thread ,how many of them would if told to do so ,give up holidays to go to work.
No one has responded to that question.
The nothoin that "this is what we signed up for is flase. Holidays are very light.
I can tell you that the local DNS office here is open but on a light schedule. Techs do not know ahead of time whether they are working or not unless they take the day off ahead of time.
As previously stated I work for a sub. We are given the option of working or having the day off.
Those that work have chosen to do so. We have no such poor perfromance issues like the one that OP described.
A myth..The customers I visit are NOT clients.
They are Dish Network's customers. We are simply the people who do the work.
If each customer was my client, I would then have the right to set my rates of compensation based on the individual job. There would be no "set" pay rates. I would set my rates as any other business person would.

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dishstaller

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Last reply 10 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

$6.3 billion in crypto stolen by hackers

This should hit a lot of folks with a dose of reality. I can only imagine how much more common this will get as AI progresses.

I read several stories on this and most are clear as mud. They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole. I guess time will tell if either of these statements are actually true.

Hackers steal $6.3 billion from Binance in biggest-ever cryptocurrency theft

The company later added it began recovering assets impacted by the breach after pledging to cover losses using its Secure Asset Fund for Users.

www.cnbc.com

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harshness

Today at 10:29 AM

dishstaller said:
They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole.

The "Secure Asset Fund" had about $1 billion in reserves... in Bitcoin.

The fund started in 2018, so it may take a while to make investors whole, much less replenish the fund.

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dishstaller

Today at 11:53 AM

harshness said:
The "Secure Asset Fund" had about $1 billion in reserves... in Bitcoin.

The fund started in 2018, so it may take a while to make investors whole, much less replenish the fund.

That's kinda what I was seeing but all the news reports are suggesting that all investors will be made whole immediately.
The other thing they weren't clear about was the BTC that was "locked out" of the system. I guess that means that the stolen BTC is basically worthless now because I don't see how it could be replaced....but there is a LOT about the crypto world that leaves me scratching my head.

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harshness

54 minutes ago

This is what scares me about cryptocurrency: there doesn't seem to be any oversight.

It seems more like politics than investing.

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meStevo

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A few clarifications... the ~$3B "locked" was mostly stablecoins (USDT/USDC). Tether and Circle can blacklist their own tokens, which makes those worthless to the thief. Bitcoin and ETH have no issuer, so they can't be frozen. That's the ~$2.4–3.3B the hackers still have, so the stolen BTC is very much not worthless to them. It was also spread across 10 blockchains, not just bitcoin. On getting made whole: SAFU is ~15,000 BTC (~$1.2B), and Binance says it'll cover the rest from company funds. Analysts don't see it as a solvency problem, and withdrawals are expected back within days.

The attack was pinned on North Korea's TraderTraitor group via a compromised engineer laptop. Like many hacks and compromises, that's old-school social engineering, not AI.

harshness said:
This is what scares me about cryptocurrency: there doesn't seem to be any oversight.

It seems more like politics than investing.

That's the tradeoff stablecoins make - a central issuer that can freeze funds, which is why half the loot got stopped. Bitcoin and ETH have no one in charge, so nobody can reverse a theft, but nobody can freeze your coins either. Stablecoins trade price volatility for trusting a central issuer.

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Bruce

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 41 minutes ago · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

How things have changed

I was reading this article

Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022

The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…

thehill.com

That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.

Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.

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Bruce

Oct 23, 2026

And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Jimbo

Oct 23, 2026

Bruce said:
And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

View attachment 194983

Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...

You have services like Hulu Live and You Tube TV that do, what you call Cable, but they ARE Streaming, so Which is is ?

Does it get counted 2x as both Streaming and Cable ?

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savarese04

Saturday at 1:09 PM

Jimbo said:
Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...

Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.

Jimbo said:
Q.
Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...

Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.

Jimbo

Saturday at 2:50 PM

savarese04 said:
Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.

Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.

I have turned some off, not others ...

Jimbo

Wednesday at 11:28 PM

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dishstaller

Wednesday at 11:58 PM

Jimbo said:
View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u4rACh-Tt5k?feature=share

Funny thing is that as the screen size and pic quality increase, the quality of the programming has DEcreased.

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MikeD-C05

41 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u4rACh-Tt5k?feature=share

skipped the OLED Tv entirely?

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osu1991

Pub Member / Supporter

Last reply 50 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

USA Healthcare Costs are Ridiculous

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.

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harshness

50 minutes ago

Such is the way all forms of insurance are going.

On the Rx side, make sure you've looked into discount plans like GoodRx, RxSaver, and maybe even TrumpRx (there are quite a number of them).

Bruce

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 51 minutes ago · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

DirecTV’s Subscribers Number

Thanks to Fitch Ratings ( who gives the ratings on Credit and debt, as approved by the SEC, so they have accurate numbers) we have the totals.

DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.

The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.

It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.

https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/fitch-rates-directv-proposed-senior-secured-debt-offering-bb-rr2-11-05-2026

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raoul5788

May 19, 2026

They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo. Edit: And I've been a Directv customer for 30 years!

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b4pjoe

May 19, 2026

raoul5788 said:
They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo.

Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.
NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.
Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.
A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.
AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

Jimbo

May 19, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.

NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.

Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.

A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.

AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

YouTube TV

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raoul5788

May 19, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.

NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.

Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.

A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.

AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

Understandable. It's always a choice of price vs channels. The $60/month difference made my choice easier.

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Arctic_fox

Jun 12, 2026

Jimbo said:
YouTube TV

YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels

Jimbo

Jun 12, 2026

Arctic_fox said:
YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels

RSN's ... are they still Alive ?

Unless your looking for the Non Major sports,,they are pretty pointless.

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b4pjoe

Jun 12, 2026

raoul5788 said:
Understandable. It's always a choice of price vs channels. The $60/month difference made my choice easier.

I see Fubo is getting the NBC Universal channels back. That will help them.

NBCUniversal Channels Like Telemundo and Bravo Are Returning to Fubo

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Arctic_fox

Jun 12, 2026

Jimbo said:
RSN's ... are they still Alive ?

Unless your looking for the Non Major sports,,they are pretty pointless.

NESN and spectrum sportsnet is i don't know about the others

raoul5788

Jun 13, 2026

b4pjoe said:
I see Fubo is getting the NBC Universal channels back. That will help them.
NBCUniversal Channels Like Telemundo and Bravo Are Returning to Fubo

And my package is going up $15/month!

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Arctic_fox

Jun 13, 2026

raoul5788 said:
And my package is going up $15/month!

have you tried to call in and threaten to cancel and see how that works out??? have you tried going back onto directv.com and making a new acct for discounts posing as a new sub.. it worked for me when ATT destroyed it :biggrin

raoul5788

Jun 14, 2026

Arctic_fox said:
have you tried to call in and threaten to cancel and see how that works out??? have you tried going back onto directv.com and making a new acct for discounts posing as a new sub.. it worked for me when ATT destroyed it

I got a big discount for returning.

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Jimbo

Jun 19, 2026

raoul5788 said:
I got a big discount for returning.

When I( talked with them a few weeks ago, they called me.
They offered me the Choice package (I had the Ultimate) (I also wasn't in from of my computer , so I couldn't check things out)
I figured if they could beat $80, I'd listen ... her best offer was $120, PASS...

The package I HAD with Sat was costing me $140 ... again HARD PASS.

Arctic_fox

Jun 20, 2026

Jimbo said:
When I( talked with them a few weeks ago, they called me.
They offered me the Choice package (I had the Ultimate) (I also wasn't in from of my computer , so I couldn't check things out)
I figured if they could beat $80, I'd listen ... her best offer was $120, PASS...

The package I HAD with Sat was costing me $140 ... again HARD PASS.

they offered me the new customer deals and a 300.00 prepaid visa to leave DISH along there were going to waive the 49.00 activation fee

, the deal breaker was id'e be stuck with an HR-54 and not an HS-17. and there's no more wired gemini's for new subs or that's what i was told. and billing and tech support is still in the ATT eco system

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b4pjoe

Jun 20, 2026

Arctic_fox said:
they offered me the new customer deals and a 300.00 prepaid visa to leave DISH along there were going to waive the 49.00 activation fee , the deal breaker was id'e be stuck with an HR-54 and not an HS-17. and there's no more wired gemini's for new subs or that's what i was told. and billing and tech support is still in the ATT eco system

I just got a wired Gemini a few weeks ago. Also my bill comes from DIRECTV…not AT&T though I do understand not all peoples bill have been switched back to DIRECTV yet.

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navychop

Jun 20, 2026

Leaving Hopper Land for buggy whips?

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Jimbo

Jun 21, 2026

Arctic_fox said:
they offered me the new customer deals and a 300.00 prepaid visa to leave DISH along there were going to waive the 49.00 activation fee , the deal breaker was id'e be stuck with an HR-54 and not an HS-17. and there's no more wired gemini's for new subs or that's what i was told. and billing and tech support is still in the ATT eco system

Personally, IF I ever went back with Sat, I would definitely take the HR54 ... but each set up is different from house to house, what works for you ... in reality, I would probably go streaming instead, as my needs have changed, I no longer need a portable recvr to use while camping.

Don in CT

Jun 24, 2026

Arctic_fox said:
NESN and spectrum sportsnet is i don't know about the others

I doubt NESN is doing great with the Sox in the tank.

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Bruce

51 minutes ago

Bruce said:
Thanks to Fitch Ratings ( who gives the ratings on Credit and debt, as approved by the SEC, so they have accurate numbers) we have the totals.

DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.

The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.

It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.

https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/fitch-rates-directv-proposed-senior-secured-debt-offering-bb-rr2-11-05-2026

New numbers are out-

DIRECTV was the third-largest U.S. traditional multichannel video programming distributor (MVPD) with about 8.0 million subscribers at the end of 2Q2026

Still an average of 200,000 lost per quarter ( for the last four quarters), less than Dish/Sling, which lost 241,000 in the second quarter, 366,000 in the first quarter.

https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/fitch-affirms-directv-idr-at-bb-outlook-stable-29-10-2026

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply Today at 1:34 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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harshness

Today at 10:09 AM

After Midnight - Eric Clapton

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Bobby

Today at 11:25 AM

Gotta Give A Little Love (Ten Years After) - Timmy Thomas

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gms49ers

Today at 11:44 AM

Hear Me Calling - Ten Years After

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sdfntx

Today at 12:28 PM

I Can Hear You Calling - Three Dog Night

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Can't You Hear Me Knocking - The Rolling Stones

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Fun Novelty Apps for the iPhone Duo - Toasty!

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cpdretired

Supporting Founder

Last reply Today at 12:27 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Offers

Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.

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Darrell S

Oct 17, 2026

I tried on Hopper last night. Many more offers than the website has. I even got 3 free months of Gallery. Only offered 1 month on website

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long_time_Dish

Oct 17, 2026

I got Starz/Encore again for 50% off for 3 months yesterday.

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reubenray

Oct 18, 2026

Darrell S said:
I tried on Hopper last night. Many more offers than the website has. I even got 3 free months of Gallery. Only offered 1 month on website

How do I check for offers on my H3? My contract runs out in January.

OH - how about them Tigers!!

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Darrell S

Oct 18, 2026

reubenray said:
How do I check for offers on my H3? My contract runs out in January.

OH - how about them Tigers!!

You have to find my account in the settings. Only works if you're connected to internet.

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reubenray

Oct 18, 2026

Darrell S said:
You have to find my account in the settings. Only works if you're connected to internet.

Thanks, I found it. I have no offers.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:27 PM

Added the protection plan last week and went to cancel it. The website offered me 3 months free.

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nkapon

Last reply Today at 12:06 PM · posted in Canadian Satellite Services

looking for Starlink installation fro Burk's falls

Hello there

We are looking for Starlink installer that will be able to install a system in Burk's falls.

Please ping me if you are interested

Thanks,
Nimrod

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nelson61

Jul 17, 2025

nkapon said:
Hello there

We are looking for Starlink installer that will be able to install a system in Burk's falls.

Please ping me if you are interested

Thanks,
Nimrod

It is really really simple install (no special tools or instruments required and they guide you through using their starlink app and a simple set of instructions.

You can order direct from starlink online or from an authorized retailer.

Not at all like the special equipment needed for a satellite install.

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nkapon

Jul 18, 2025

nelson61 said:
It is really really simple install (no special tools or instruments required and they guide you through using their starlink app and a simple set of instructions.

You can order direct from starlink online or from an authorized retailer.

Not at all like the special equipment needed for a satellite install.

Thank you Nelson,
Yes, I fully agree. I can install it with my teeth, and both hands tied behind my back...but this installation is for a commercial user that will not do it themselves, and myself, Im overseas...

But it looks like that we managed to find someone who can drive there for the work.

Thank you

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Jazky99

Today at 12:06 PM

have you got it done

dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 12:03 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

New report states 29% of vehicles being traded in are under water

It states the average amount they are under water is OVER $7,000. :eek

Personally, I tend to be the type that drives a vehicle for a lot of years....do my own oil changes and other fluid changes. Just replaced the spark plugs and a couple coils. Youtube is great for things like this.

Nearly 3 In 10 New-Car Trade-Ins Are Underwater, Edmunds Finds | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

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Juan

Yesterday at 9:43 PM

I guess America can't afford 10 year autoloans

harshness

Today at 10:05 AM

Juan said:
I guess America can't afford 10 year autoloans

I'm pretty sure the most you can get is seven.

What America can't afford is the payments on $80,000+ pickups and SUVs and $40,000+ crossovers.

dishstaller

Today at 12:03 PM

harshness said:
I'm pretty sure the most you can get is seven.

Believe it or not, 8 yrs...96 mon is starting to become common.

What I can't believe is the interest rates they are charging now. I've got a high credit score and when recently at a Ford dealership I inquired about what the rates were for new vehicles and he said 6.9%. Yikes.

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