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rad
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Profits down but subscriber counts keep going up, see The DIRECTV Group, Inc. - The DIRECTV Group Announces Second Quarter 2009 Results

"EL SEGUNDO, Calif., Aug 06, 2009 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- The DIRECTV Group, Inc. (NASDAQ:DTV) today reported that second quarter 2009 revenues increased 9% to $5.22 billion, operating profit before depreciation and amortization1 (OPBDA) increased 2% to $1.38 billion while operating profit decreased 12% to $702 million compared to last year's second quarter. Second quarter net income attributable to The DIRECTV Group declined 11% to $407 million while earnings per share were unchanged at $0.40 compared with the same period last year.

"In a quarter in which DIRECTV celebrated its 15th anniversary and became the world's largest pay-tv provider with over 24.2 million customers in the U.S., Latin America and Mexico, our momentum continued as DIRECTV U.S. net subscriber additions grew 74% to 224,000," said Larry Hunter, interim chief executive officer of The DIRECTV Group, Inc. "DIRECTV's strong brand and unrivaled video experience, along with the first full quarter of marketing our bundled service with AT&T, contributed to a 17% increase in gross additions to 1,048,000 and a monthly churn rate of 1.51%."
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DodgerKing
Yes, when you include Mexico and Latin America numbes they are the largets, if based on US subs alone, nope.
Who has the largest US only sub base? I am assuming it Comcast?
rad
rad
Who has the largest US only sub base? I am assuming it Comcast?

IIRC it was Comcast, TWC and then DirecTV and Dish.
L
IIRC it was Comcast, TWC and then DirecTV and Dish.
Nope.

It's

Comcast 24Million
DirecTV 18 Million
TWC 13 Million
Dish 13 Million

I need to look up the exact numbers but that's what it is.
scoop8
Nope.

It's

Comcast 24Million
DirecTV 18 Million
TWC 13 Million
Dish 13 Million

I need to look up the exact numbers but that's what it is.

Interesting #'s. Just curious....why do you guys think that Comcast is in the lead? More HD choices or price? Who provides better HD video Q?

I wonder if ST were not considered, would the #'s be closer (DTV vs Comcast)?
B
Interesting #'s. Just curious....why do you guys think that Comcast is in the lead? More HD choices or price? Who provides better HD video Q?

I wonder if ST were not considered, would the #'s be closer (DTV vs Comcast)?
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I may be wrong, but isn't Comcast in the lead over Time Warner just because they offer service in more areas? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
H
I may be wrong, but isn't Comcast in the lead over Time Warner just because they offer service in more areas? .
Yes
And D* and E* can be had in more places then any cable company in the USA and comcast still Wins with the most customers.
Interesting isn't it.
Add all the cable companys around the Lower 48 together and Satellite tv is still a far cry from what you would call big.:)
Still a TON of Cable subscribers that E* and D* should be stealing.:)
Well D* is , E* I guess doesn't like adding new customers.:(
riffjim4069
Still a TON of Cable subscribers that E* and D* should be stealing.:)(
...or a ton of Cable and Satellite subscribers that Verizon FiOS TV and AT&T U-Verse will earn by offering better quality, value and service. ;)
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...or a ton of Cable and Satellite subscribers that Verizon FiOS TV and AT&T U-Verse will earn by offering better quality, value and service. ;)
Fios will be winning.
Fios doesn't even cover a fraction of what D* does and they added 300,000 new customers last quarter alone. As the coverage gets larger D* and E* better look out.
As far as Better Quality goes, couldn't disagree more. Motorola makes good phones,and walkie talkies, But their HD DVRs are far from Quaility.
Fiber Optics, Sure , But I'd rather have it Running through any D* HR or E* VIP then Anything Motorola makes.:(
Customers Service, Sorry but I've had Verizon Internet and Phone for years, Customer service with Verizon is the worst I've ever seen. I'd rather talk to E* worst CSR any day of the week then the 9-5 guy from India.:p
Value ?? Programming and Pricing, Yes!
Fios would need a HD DVR that does record atleast 55 HD hours in order for me to even consider Fios.
But glad you like,and glad its working out for you.:)
vurbano
Fios will be winning.
Fios doesn't even cover a fraction of what D* does and they added 300,000 new customers last quarter alone. As the coverage gets larger D* and E* better look out.
As far as Better Quality goes, couldn't disagree more. Motorola makes good phones,and walkie talkies, But their HD DVRs are far from Quaility.
Fiber Optics, Sure , But I'd rather have it Running through any D* HR or E* VIP then Anything Motorola makes.:(
Customers Service, Sorry but I've had Verizon Internet and Phone for years, Customer service with Verizon is the worst I've ever seen. I'd rather talk to E* worst CSR any day of the week then the 9-5 guy from India.:p
Value ?? Programming and Pricing, Yes!
Fios would need a HD DVR that does record atleast 55 HD hours in order for me to even consider Fios.
But glad you like,and glad its working out for you.:)

Thats what great about FIOS. You don't have to use their box. BTW were you a FIOS customer?
uncrules
Thats what great about FIOS. You don't have to use their box.

Honest question here. How much did you pay for those Tivo HD boxes?
Scherrman
I am thinking the reason there are so many cable subs out there yet is because of it's simplicity. You can have cable to every room and watch what ever you want right on your TV. I think a lot of people get confused with how satellite works. Even the people that have satellite are confuse. People alway change the input on there TV and think there is something wrong with the satellite. Once the generation of people who are not use to this technology pass, I believe satellite will reign over cable. Unless the cable companies do something to stay competitive. This is just my opinion.
DodgerKing
...or a ton of Cable and Satellite subscribers that Verizon FiOS TV and AT&T U-Verse will earn by offering better quality, value and service. ;)
FiOS, definitely. U-Verse sucks. I would pick cable over U-Verse in most areas that offer both.
rad
rad
I am thinking the reason there are so many cable subs out there yet is because of it's simplicity. You can have cable to every room and watch what ever you want right on your TV. I think a lot of people get confused with how satellite works. Even the people that have satellite are confuse. People alway change the input on there TV and think there is something wrong with the satellite. Once the generation of people who are not use to this technology pass, I believe satellite will reign over cable. Unless the cable companies do something to stay competitive. This is just my opinion.

IMHO, the simplicity is part of it. Someone coming here for info and looks at some of the D* threads, how do you get a SWM, how many cables to I need, how does on demand work? Same for E*, which dish do I need, what's a western and eastern arc, why do I need two dishes and what's this check switch thing folks keep telling others to do?

But there's also the cost factor on the up front charges, especially if looking for DVR's, HD or HD/DVR's. Folks with limited budgets look at how much they need to pay up front for hardware vs. cable which hit you up with the higher monthly rental fee (the old pay me now or pay me later). Maybe the sat companies should look into an option to spread out the advanced set top charges over the length of the commitment period or an 'easy payment' plan to help on the sticker shock.
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IMHO, the simplicity is part of it. Someone coming here for info and looks at some of the D* threads, how do you get a SWM, how many cables to I need, how does on demand work? Same for E*, which dish do I need, what's a western and eastern arc, why do I need two dishes and what's this check switch thing folks keep telling others to do?

But there's also the cost factor on the up front charges, especially if looking for DVR's, HD or HD/DVR's. Folks with limited budgets look at how much they need to pay up front for hardware vs. cable which hit you up with the higher monthly rental fee (the old pay me now or pay me later). Maybe the sat companies should look into an option to spread out the advances set top charges over the length of the commitment period or an 'easy payment' plan to help on the sticker shock.
Totally agree! If you want HD DVR, instead of Just paying $200 upfront for a HR2x,, give the customer the option to make 12 and 24 payments ,since 24 months is what you have to commit in order to even activate an HD DVR with D*
Even E* for that matter.
riffjim4069
Honest question here. How much did you pay for those Tivo HD boxes?
I think I paid $600 for my first E* 622, $500 for the 2nd, and $250 for the 3rd. My TiVOHD cost $200 (new) and another $100 for adding a 500GB eSATA drive. Additionally, I am paying $10 a months for the Tivo service. Overall there's not a lot of difference between purchasing a ViP receiver or TiVO HD. However, the real value is the quality and value of the FiOS service...and having 122 unmolested HD channels in my local channel lineup ain't too shabby.
riffjim4069
FiOS, definitely. U-Verse sucks. I would pick cable over U-Verse in most areas that offer both.
I would certainly agree, but surprisingly U-Verse has a slight edge over FiOS TV in overall customer satisfaction. I can only assume the average schmoe is not as particular as many of us here at SatGuys.
riffjim4069
Fios will be winning.
Fios doesn't even cover a fraction of what D* does and they added 300,000 new customers last quarter alone. As the coverage gets larger D* and E* better look out.
As far as Better Quality goes, couldn't disagree more. Motorola makes good phones,and walkie talkies, But their HD DVRs are far from Quaility.
Fiber Optics, Sure , But I'd rather have it Running through any D* HR or E* VIP then Anything Motorola makes.:(
Customers Service, Sorry but I've had Verizon Internet and Phone for years, Customer service with Verizon is the worst I've ever seen. I'd rather talk to E* worst CSR any day of the week then the 9-5 guy from India.:p
Value ?? Programming and Pricing, Yes!
Fios would need a HD DVR that does record atleast 55 HD hours in order for me to even consider Fios.
But glad you like,and glad its working out for you.:)
I won't disagree, except the FiOS DVR (software) is better than the Cable boxes...and we've had TiVO HD which, surprisingly, is only slightly behind the Dish ViP series DVR. To be honest, while the 622/722 is faster and superior for watching live TV, the TiVO is 2nd to none when it comes to Season Pass and it has lots of bells and whistles I have come to love (Netflix, YouTube, etc.). Any comparison of FiOS TV needs to include the TivoHD as a viable option; the same goes for the Moxi HD.
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Totally agree! If you want HD DVR, instead of Just paying $200 upfront for a HR2x,, give the customer the option to make 12 and 24 payments ,since 24 months is what you have to commit in order to even activate an HD DVR with D*
Even E* for that matter.
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dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in The Chit Chat Club
Was raining yesterday so I went to Sams up in Dothan to stock up on some things. Haven't been there in quite a while. I was amazed at how large most of the TVs were. When I walked in they had a 100 in Vizio (I think it was Vizio) that was marked down to something like $1,200. The first rows of TVs were all in the 80 in + sizes. The next couple of rows had the "smaller" models....those 75 and under. I was amazed at how small the 75s looked when lined up with the larger screens.
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osu1991
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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b4pjoe
My wife and I use the same Medicare Advantage plan from United Healthcare. (Yes I have heard the horror stories about Medicare Advantage plans but we have used it for the last 5 years). We are both pretty healthy so it works for us. It costs $0.00 per month for both of us and it pays part of our Medicare part B premium. Next year it will be paying $170 per month of the $220 monthly part B premium for both of us. We also each get $90 per quarter to use on OTC products. $0.00 copay for Dr. visits and $55 copay for specialists. Includes dental and hearing coverage. Never have had an issue with it although I don't really use mine other than for the dental, Part B payments and the OTC benefit as I am a veteran and use the VA for all of my medical needs. I just had a kidney that had a cancer mass removed last month and they allowed me to use a non VA surgeon at a non VA hospital through the VA Community Care program. For all of the doctors visits, exams, tests, surgery, hospital stay, meds etc…was around $60,000 and the the VA paid for it entirely. I did have to pay $16 for the Oxycodone pain pills when I left the hospital that I got from my local CVS instead of waiting for a week for the VA to ship them to me from the VA pharmacy.
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dishstaller
$0.00 copay for Dr. visits
And THAT is one of the big issues causing a lot of the problems. If the minimum copay for Dr. visits was at least $100 then a LOT of folks would opt out of those visits. If it cost the individual nothing then why should they care. All of my older family members are constantly going to doctor visits.....to them it is an adventure.....an outing that allows them a reason to go out to eat at a restaurant. IF they had to pay one cent out of their own pockets a lot of that crap would stop asap.

Sorry...rant off.
meStevo
And THAT is one of the big issues causing a lot of the problems. If the minimum copay for Dr. visits was at least $100 then a LOT of folks would opt out of those visits. If it cost the individual nothing then why should they care. All of my older family members are constantly going to doctor visits.....to them it is an adventure.....an outing that allows them a reason to go out to eat at a restaurant. IF they had to pay one cent out of their own pockets a lot of that crap would stop asap.

Sorry...rant off.

You're not wrong that some people treat free visits like a social outing. But it has to be a balance. Put a $100 barrier on a doctor visit and people don't just skip the pointless ones, they skip the important ones too. Then the stuff that would've been a cheap catch at a checkup shows up later in the ER, sicker and way more expensive. The shift we need is from sick care to actual healthcare.
dishstaller
But it has to be a balance.
Unfortunately, humans tend to suck at finding a balance in just about anything.

They go to the Doctor for everything.
I see a LOT of that. And yes...they DO go to the doctor for EVERYTHING.

I was sick a couple months ago, either light flu or cold. First thing my Mom asked me when I told her was "You need to go to the doctor". I said WHY......I know what to do....it'll last a few days and I'll be fine.

The biggest problem with paying nothing out of pocket is that people quickly don't want to pay a penny for anything. Had an older customer in the store the other day. He mentioned that he had just come from CVS and I guess he wanted to rant. He said he went to pick up his prescription and "they changed my plan and wanted $4, they used to be free...I told them to stick them somewhere and walked out". BTW, he was in the store buying a new remote. So he HAD money for a remote but not $4 for this medicine that somebody somewhere thought he needed.
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navychop
$50! Do I hear $50?

Must we go down to $25?
Jimbo
Unfortunately, humans tend to suck at finding a balance in just about anything.


I see a LOT of that. And yes...they DO go to the doctor for EVERYTHING.

I was sick a couple months ago, either light flu or cold. First thing my Mom asked me when I told her was "You need to go to the doctor". I said WHY......I know what to do....it'll last a few days and I'll be fine.

The biggest problem with paying nothing out of pocket is that people quickly don't want to pay a penny for anything. Had an older customer in the store the other day. He mentioned that he had just come from CVS and I guess he wanted to rant. He said he went to pick up his prescription and "they changed my plan and wanted $4, they used to be free...I told them to stick them somewhere and walked out". BTW, he was in the store buying a new remote. So he HAD money for a remote but not $4 for this medicine that somebody somewhere thought he needed.
My prescription before Medicare took over was $30 for 90 days, Medicare took over, now it was $375 last January and $150ish after that 90 days worth.
Jimbo
Unfortunately, humans tend to suck at finding a balance in just about anything.


I see a LOT of that. And yes...they DO go to the doctor for EVERYTHING.

I was sick a couple months ago, either light flu or cold. First thing my Mom asked me when I told her was "You need to go to the doctor". I said WHY......I know what to do....it'll last a few days and I'll be fine.

The biggest problem with paying nothing out of pocket is that people quickly don't want to pay a penny for anything. Had an older customer in the store the other day. He mentioned that he had just come from CVS and I guess he wanted to rant. He said he went to pick up his prescription and "they changed my plan and wanted $4, they used to be free...I told them to stick them somewhere and walked out". BTW, he was in the store buying a new remote. So he HAD money for a remote but not $4 for this medicine that somebody somewhere thought he needed.
Priorities ...
dishstaller
Priorities ...
I guess so. Obviously he didn't really need those pills....or at least HE didn't think so.
J
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I've had a H3 receiver for years but just recently began watching and recording 4k content. I'm consistently having the display revert to the upper left quarter of the screen after fast forwarding or pausing the playback of 4k recordings.

Some research I've done blames it on the Hopper as not having the processing power to quickly shift between the FF or pause playback formats and it leaves the playback device in a mode thinking that it's no longer receiving a 4k stream. So it displays the 1/4 image.

I've found that I can quickly recover back to a full screen 4k display by using the remote sequence Pause / Info / Resume.

I've tested this on two different monitors, but they're both LGs, so maybe it's the TVs, and not the Hopper? Is this a known problem? Anyone else experience this?
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navychop
I had similar problems when I had an H3. Not sure what triggered it. I don't think it was for 4K though, as I don't follow sports and what else has Dish put on in "4K?"

Sony UHD TV and Sony UHD player (no 1/4 there).

I think I was cycling power to work around it.
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Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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osu1991
:mad:..I hate playing in Ames.
Jimbo
:mad:..I hate playing in Ames.
I hate playing in LA ... :oldmad
Buckeyes had 2 weeks off and came out and looked absolutely terrible ... broke in a new Freshman Qb, but that wasn't the worst part ... undiscipline play, at last count they had 10 penalties.
Freshman in the end of the game trying to play catch up, had a lot of Over throws ... Bucks lose ...

#1 Miami struggled but pulled away in the end beating North Carolina by 3 ...

Tuesday the CFP brings out thier Playoff Top 12 again ... Buckeyes should drop from #2 to about #22 (they won't) had they had thier Starting QB, it would have been a different game ...

They could lose the rest of thier games at this point.
Foxbat
:mad:..I hate playing in Ames.
My in-Laws came from Iowa, she was a graduate of ISU. Unranked Iowa teams beat the #24 and #25 teams on Halloween.

And I heard that your QB made a poor choice after scoring the tying touchdown, leading to a fifteen yard penalty on the ensuing kickoff. The Cyclones were then able to take advantage of the resulting field position to get close enough to score the winning field goal.

In a NCAA Football season of bizarre endings, this has to rank right up there.
osu1991
My in-Laws came from Iowa, she was a graduate of ISU. Unranked Iowa teams beat the #24 and #25 teams on Halloween.

And I heard that your QB made a poor choice after scoring the tying touchdown, leading to a fifteen yard penalty on the ensuing kickoff. The Cyclones were then able to take advantage of the resulting field position to get close enough to score the winning field goal.

In a NCAA Football season of bizarre endings, this has to rank right up there.
Yep, but wasn't the QB. Was WR. Offense had a great game but defense didn't show up at all. I don't think they were even in the State.
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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In The Wee Small Hours of the Morning - Carly Simon
long_time_Dish
Sometime In The Morning - The Monkees
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Touch Me IN THE MORNING-Diana Ross
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Touch Me - The Doors
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The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face - Roberta Flack
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I had an old Wireless Joey replaced by a Wireless Joey 4 (Android TV) - still have a Hopper 3 without the Hopper Plus. What do I have to do to get the EPG to show channel logos instead of "Dish"? This is annoying as hell and it's been this way for over a month…
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B
That kind of crap annoys me to no end.
That is one reason I haven't switched to h3and the same wireless joey 4
Hope you get it resolved.
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KAB
Just so you know, my WJ4 (with no Hopper+) shows all the logos. I can't think of why yours isn't. I'll do some digging in the settings.
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Scott Greczkowski
They "should" appear after a few days. If not reboot the hopper and joey. Sometimes it needs a kick.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.

Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd​ scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.

It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list. :mad:

Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?
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dishstaller
I hear complaints from customers each and every day. I chose not to install OTAs with a doggle for a reason.

BTW, I like your user name


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MXNU6pQFkok
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rvvaquero
It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.
So, you want the ability to, for example, scan while your antenna is pointed to the east and save those channels to your list. Then, you want to scan again with the antenna pointed to the west, and add some of those channels to the list also while retaining the original channels you added from the east?

How would that work? If you move the antenna and some of your channels are no longer are accessible, there's no point in having them on the list. Unless, you want to re-point the antenna each time you switched from an east channel to a west channel and vice versa.

I suppose you could have one of those remote controlled antenna mast like we had back in the 60's. In that case, I can see your point. I think DISH has just designed the system to fit what the vast majority of users actually have. I'm guessing your situation is a pretty narrow use case scenario. I'm just really happy to be able to have my locals without having to pay the $17 month for them.

I just wish DISH would fix the remote control issue that the last few software downloads screwed up. I use the 54 remote and my Hopper is jumping around from off to on, from live to recording.......................like a Kangaroo.
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Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
After having continuing trouble with my eight+ year old Dell Inspiron laptop I am looking to hopefully catch a good deal on new one. My options to buy is Costco and Sam's Club. It seems like a lot of new laptops are 2 in 1 which I do not need. I use the laptop to mainly surf the web and keep up with my finances, money and bills. I would like to have at least a 15" screen and having a touchscreen is a plus. The keyboard would need to lighted also. I don't game any. It would have to be Windows instead of and not Mac. The brands I see the most are Asus, Dell and HP. My two last laptops has been Dell's. Of these brands are there any standouts over the other brands. My budget (hopefully) is $600+-. Also while researching I noticed that do not have ethernet ports.
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EarDemon
Why not do a CTO directly through the manufacture? Get exactly what you want. Plus It's quite common to find 10%% (or higher) discount codes for Dell and HP.

Backlit keyboards are pretty much standard, and in the constant effort to try to make devices and thin and dainty as possible ethernet ports are becoming rarer, if not a normal ethernet port, you may be able to find a laptop with drop-jaw style one.
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arlo
Can't really help with an exact set of suggestions. I can say that if you have a set budget. And $600 these days wont get you much. One thing I can say is check out Dell Refurbished.
I've suggested and even configured, ordered a few for friends who were a bit iffy in deciding what they needed and wanted.
Refurbished doesn't mean that they came back defective and were repaired. Companies and organizations who order quantities of the same computers often cancel or modify their requirements.
Dell builds usually on demand. Their direct refurbished line will be brand new, unused. Perhaps not exactly the "today" specifications of the latest-greatest. And you can get a nice pc for quite a bit less with full warranty.
Just a suggestion.
"I use the laptop to mainly surf the web and keep up with my finances, money and bills. I would like to have at least a 15" screen and having a touchscreen is a plus".

As far as Asus, HP goes. And others you may consider. I'd think $600 (new) would get you a laptop. A quality, long lasting one? Not so sure. Now. If you could get a $1000 lappy for $600. Good deal, don't you think?
Surf the web doesn't need a killer Nvidia graphics chip. Nor a pinnacle, top of the line Intel, AMD processor.
12-16 gigs of memory will get you by just fine.
I'm personally an Asus fan. Brands aside. The one thing is the batteries. We discussed that here someplace else.
I repair these critters. Batteries. Cheap laptops have cheap batteries. Asus suggests that you don't keep the charger plugged in all of the time to make them last. Like you see on phones where 85% vs full charge is suggested to preserve battery life.
harshness
Why not do a CTO directly through the manufacture?
Because there are fewer economies of scale with custom products. Savings come from giant contracts with major retailers.

RAM and GPUs make buying a computer now financial suicide. In 2023, I bought two 16GB RAM modules for my lone Windows machine. The cost was under $100. Now that equivalent RAM goes for $260.

One can opt for an on-CPU GPU, but you can't opt out of RAM. While Microsoft goes on and on about Windows 11 eventually being happy with 8GB of RAM, we know how that always ends.
Foxbat
GB is the new MB (remember when Windows used to be happy with 8 MB of RAM?)

I had great experiences with Dell's Refurbished systems in the past. I ended up getting Business desktops instead of the Home PCs since they didn't come loaded with bloatware and the one Desktop I got for Mrs. Foxbat even had a license for MS Office Professional included.
arlo
Can't really help with an exact set of suggestions. I can say that if you have a set budget. And $600 these days wont get you much. One thing I can say is check out Dell Refurbished.
I've suggested and even configured, ordered a few for friends who were a bit iffy in deciding what they needed and wanted.
Refurbished doesn't mean that they came back defective and were repaired. Companies and organizations who order quantities of the same computers often cancel or modify their requirements.
Dell builds usually on demand. Their direct refurbished line will be brand new, unused. Perhaps not exactly the "today" specifications of the latest-greatest. And you can get a nice pc for quite a bit less with full warranty.
Just a suggestion.
"I use the laptop to mainly surf the web and keep up with my finances, money and bills. I would like to have at least a 15" screen and having a touchscreen is a plus".

As far as Asus, HP goes. And others you may consider. I'd think $600 (new) would get you a laptop. A quality, long lasting one? Not so sure. Now. If you could get a $1000 lappy for $600. Good deal, don't you think?
Surf the web doesn't need a killer Nvidia graphics chip. Nor a pinnacle, top of the line Intel, AMD processor.
12-16 gigs of memory will get you by just fine.
I'm personally an Asus fan. Brands aside. The one thing is the batteries. We discussed that here someplace else.
I repair these critters. Batteries. Cheap laptops have cheap batteries. Asus suggests that you don't keep the charger plugged in all of the time to make them last. Like you see on phones where 85% vs full charge is suggested to preserve battery life.
Just an edit. I did look on Dell's refurb site. To me I didn't really see anything approaching the six-hundred dollar range that I'd even consider owning. That's me though. Marginally in the $700 range.
Upwards of $1000, sure. Me? I'd save up a little more. I think their warranty is 100 days. Not that you'll need it. Square Trade is a viable option too.
The other guys replies after my first post here are viable. All I can say is that my friends and folks who chose refurbished over new have been entirely happy.

Just beware of cheap. It might just bite you. We do have tariffs now since when you bought your lappy 8 years ago.

Harshness' comment of on-cpu gpu. Intel Integrated Graphics is usually accompanied with and Nvidia gpu also.
Low power drain, good graphics and when needed, the Nvidia kicks in.


2 in 1 goes along with touch screen. Fold the display over and use it as a tablet. They go hand in hand. The keyboard shuts off. Normally open, the touch screen works as is should. I never use the touch screen when opened normally on mine. Kind of clumsy. In tablet configuration, does as it should.