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I did some searching around various places, including this forum, but could not find an answer. A friend of mine has a 7 1/2' dish and uses it for FTA reception. He had an extra VisionPlus PCI card laying around so he loaned it to me to play with.
I am an existing Dish subscriber with a Super Dish and a SW34. I have no interest in trying to pick up the actual Dish signals, but I was wanting to use my existing dish and switch to try and pick up the few FTA signals on the 119 and 121. I didn't see anything FTA on 110 according to Lyngsat.
Anyway, I was wondering if it was possible. From the research I have done, it appears that the SW34 is a standard DiSEqC switch that the card should be able to control. The only thing I thought I may run into problems with is I've read there are frequency differences on the Dish LNBs vs standard LNBs.
Basically what I am wanting to do right now is see if my PC is even capable of working decently with the card. If it does, then I plan to buy a PCI card on my own, as well as a 30-36" dish with a DiSEqC mover. From my understanding there are music, the DISH Promo channels, and a couple of international channels I should be able to use in order to test my configuration. If it is possible, does anyone know what settings I need to input into the setup screen?
Again, I have no desire to decode the actual DISH pay channels as I already have a subscription. I've always been interested in Satellite TV, and have only recently discovered there were any in-the-clear channels on the digital side. The last experience I had was with the analog C Band in-the-clear stations about 8 years ago before I moved.
Thanks so much for your help and please let me know if you need any more information from me to answer my questions.
Fuzzynuts
I am an existing Dish subscriber with a Super Dish and a SW34. I have no interest in trying to pick up the actual Dish signals, but I was wanting to use my existing dish and switch to try and pick up the few FTA signals on the 119 and 121. I didn't see anything FTA on 110 according to Lyngsat.
Anyway, I was wondering if it was possible. From the research I have done, it appears that the SW34 is a standard DiSEqC switch that the card should be able to control. The only thing I thought I may run into problems with is I've read there are frequency differences on the Dish LNBs vs standard LNBs.
Basically what I am wanting to do right now is see if my PC is even capable of working decently with the card. If it does, then I plan to buy a PCI card on my own, as well as a 30-36" dish with a DiSEqC mover. From my understanding there are music, the DISH Promo channels, and a couple of international channels I should be able to use in order to test my configuration. If it is possible, does anyone know what settings I need to input into the setup screen?
Again, I have no desire to decode the actual DISH pay channels as I already have a subscription. I've always been interested in Satellite TV, and have only recently discovered there were any in-the-clear channels on the digital side. The last experience I had was with the analog C Band in-the-clear stations about 8 years ago before I moved.
Thanks so much for your help and please let me know if you need any more information from me to answer my questions.
Fuzzynuts
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You guys are a huge help! I finally got signal to the card last night thanks to the suggestions by PSB. I was having problems, but one of my diplexers outside aparently went bad. (I used to use two recievers but went to one when I got my PVR, so I already had a second cable run from the switch.) I took it out of the chain since I am not using it any more anyway and I was able to actually see some channels when I did a scan.
Here is what my 508 said when I did a switch check:
Input 1: 121 Feed
Input 2: 110 Dual
Input 3: 119 Feed
I am using MyTheatre with the VisionPlus card. Based on the info my 508 gave me, I went into the LNB setup and selected Echostar 7. Set the LOF1 and LOF2 to 11250000, and set the DiSEqC to LNB3 Undedicated. I did the same for Echostar 5/8, but set the DiSEqC to LNB2 undedicated. When I scanned the transponders, I was only able to see horizontal transponders. All of the Vertical transponders were no signal, and a few of the horizontal as well. I thought maybe it was because the LNBs were dedicated, but I got no signals at all if I went to those settings. I didn't even attempt to pick up the 121 yet, even though since there is an LNB for it attached to my dish, I assume I should be able to get something off of it.
After I got the channels scanned, I went back out to the main screen and expanded the two satellites that I set up. The only video channel I was able to get was ELECT which was some kind of a multi-channel video feed, which was currently playing the sound from the MTV feed it was showing. Part of the time it was very choppy, others it was perfect. I was able to pick up one more radio audio channel, the name escapes me at the moment. There were several other channels marked with a green dot but I didn't seem to get anything from them. Shouldn't I be able to watch/hear anything with the green dot? Most of the channels were red, obviously, and I know I won't be able to do anything with them. I am using a pretty crummy computer at the moment (spare parts I had) so I am guessing the laggyness and chop I am getting is due at least in part to needing more horsepower.
Now regarding the switch issue that Iceburg mentioned, would this be the cause of only getting half the transponders? Your post was not on here at the time I was testing so I didn't think of that last night. Could I replace the SW34 with a 4 to x DiSEqC switch and have my dish reciever still work properly? I may need a new switch for FTA if I decide not to get a dish mover anyway, and would be willing to get one for testing since they aren't expensive.
My friend has a 4 to 1 DiSEqC switch I might be able to borrow for a couple of days. If you guys think it might work, I'll try to run the 3 cables from the cascade ports of the SW34 to the inputs on that 4 to 1 and see if I have better luck. If I understand correctly, the cascade outputs pass the direct signal from each LNB directly, so that you can add another switch and have additional recievers. Doing it this way would (in theory) allow me to use a standard DiSEqC switch for my FTA testing, but not touch my working subscription at all.
Regardless of whether or not I end up getting my existing config working, I am having a lot of fun and I have learned a TON about how the digital satellite realm works. Hopefully I'll get this working well enough to convince my wife that I need to go ahead and get the correct stuff.
Thanks again for the help guys!
Fuzzynuts
*** Edit***
I checked with my friend and he is currently using that extra switch he had so I will not be able to use it at the moment. Along the same lines of using the cascade ports to feed the DiSEqC switch, will it work to feed the reciever directly from one of the cascade ports to get that LNB only?
Here is what my 508 said when I did a switch check:
Input 1: 121 Feed
Input 2: 110 Dual
Input 3: 119 Feed
I am using MyTheatre with the VisionPlus card. Based on the info my 508 gave me, I went into the LNB setup and selected Echostar 7. Set the LOF1 and LOF2 to 11250000, and set the DiSEqC to LNB3 Undedicated. I did the same for Echostar 5/8, but set the DiSEqC to LNB2 undedicated. When I scanned the transponders, I was only able to see horizontal transponders. All of the Vertical transponders were no signal, and a few of the horizontal as well. I thought maybe it was because the LNBs were dedicated, but I got no signals at all if I went to those settings. I didn't even attempt to pick up the 121 yet, even though since there is an LNB for it attached to my dish, I assume I should be able to get something off of it.
After I got the channels scanned, I went back out to the main screen and expanded the two satellites that I set up. The only video channel I was able to get was ELECT which was some kind of a multi-channel video feed, which was currently playing the sound from the MTV feed it was showing. Part of the time it was very choppy, others it was perfect. I was able to pick up one more radio audio channel, the name escapes me at the moment. There were several other channels marked with a green dot but I didn't seem to get anything from them. Shouldn't I be able to watch/hear anything with the green dot? Most of the channels were red, obviously, and I know I won't be able to do anything with them. I am using a pretty crummy computer at the moment (spare parts I had) so I am guessing the laggyness and chop I am getting is due at least in part to needing more horsepower.
Now regarding the switch issue that Iceburg mentioned, would this be the cause of only getting half the transponders? Your post was not on here at the time I was testing so I didn't think of that last night. Could I replace the SW34 with a 4 to x DiSEqC switch and have my dish reciever still work properly? I may need a new switch for FTA if I decide not to get a dish mover anyway, and would be willing to get one for testing since they aren't expensive.
My friend has a 4 to 1 DiSEqC switch I might be able to borrow for a couple of days. If you guys think it might work, I'll try to run the 3 cables from the cascade ports of the SW34 to the inputs on that 4 to 1 and see if I have better luck. If I understand correctly, the cascade outputs pass the direct signal from each LNB directly, so that you can add another switch and have additional recievers. Doing it this way would (in theory) allow me to use a standard DiSEqC switch for my FTA testing, but not touch my working subscription at all.
Regardless of whether or not I end up getting my existing config working, I am having a lot of fun and I have learned a TON about how the digital satellite realm works. Hopefully I'll get this working well enough to convince my wife that I need to go ahead and get the correct stuff.
Thanks again for the help guys!
Fuzzynuts
*** Edit***
I checked with my friend and he is currently using that extra switch he had so I will not be able to use it at the moment. Along the same lines of using the cascade ports to feed the DiSEqC switch, will it work to feed the reciever directly from one of the cascade ports to get that LNB only?
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I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Tony as the director.
Would you rather have LaRoche ???Tony as the director.
No. Bring in someone new.
Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...No. Bring in someone new.
Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
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Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I was having similar issues last night while watching and recording the NLCS game on 148. When I tried resuming the game at one point the screen went blank and I couldn't get my H3 to respond to any remote commands. Eventually the Hopper went to a HD channel but still no remote response. After a while the Hopper went into a re-boot cycle. This happened at least 3 times. I was using an IR universal remote only.
A little frustrating to have the game broken up like that but at least the Brewers won
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This started a couple months ago. I have 2 H3s on one network, both with 2 EHD identical 3 TB seperately powered so all recordings are accessible by all 4k & J4s (8 of them).
On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
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Thanks JohnGalt1234 - That's interesting. I wonder are the Boot Strap versions different between a Hopper 3 only and a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup as I have the later. I guess when charlesrshell is able to since he has both setups, he can do the test. Unless the bootstrap version is tied to when the specific Hopper 3 is manufactured, in my case, mines is from February 2016 when it was installed.
At least Google Search AI is saying the bootstrap version will never change and unique to each Hopper 3.
This is probably why different people seem to either have the issue or they don't because the bootstrap code could also be tied to the hardware revision and
components other than the internal HD.
At least Google Search AI is saying the bootstrap version will never change and unique to each Hopper 3.
This is probably why different people seem to either have the issue or they don't because the bootstrap code could also be tied to the hardware revision and
components other than the internal HD.
JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?
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Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?
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Two bugs out and three new bugs in.
Yep. Just got a call from a customer who said her DVR buttons stopped working. Told her about the new software and had her reboot her H3, problem solved.Two bugs out and three new bugs in.
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