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Babadem

Last reply Sep 19, 2009 · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion

C-Band and Linear KU LNB Motorised

I'm in the process of setting up my 1.2M Dish with a DG380 Motor, so as to obtain maximum signals from both C-Band and KU Band across the arc. To achieve this aim, I have decided to setup Independent C-Band Lnbf, next to KU Band Lnbf. With this option, LNBs with dual outputs will give me access to 2 receivers simultaneously without slaving cable from one box to another. This brings me to ask the following questions.

1) Which LNB should be dead center and which one will be offset?

2) How far apart does the offset have to be from the center LNB, and does it matter if the offset is left or right of the center LNB?

3) Is it always advisable to cut the C-Band Scalar like this picture by QWERT1515 or can KU LNB be placed just next to the realm of the C-Band Scalar without cutting it?

4) Any other tips and pointers will be highly appreciated.

I'm sorry if this has been treated before, but my search didn't give me good results.

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qwert1515

Sep 15, 2009

Babadem said:
1) Which LNB should be dead center and which one will be offset?

The Ku band LNB should be at the center of the dish (the correct focal point) because its wave length and focal point is smaller than it is for C-Band.
This is why you have to be more careful when aligning a Ku band dish vs. a C-Band dish.
If you put the C-Band LNB in the center and the Ku-Band LNB on the side you will lose a lot of signal quality on the Ku-Band (A 1.2 Meter dish will seem like a 36" - 39" dish)
and you will not gain that much on the C-Band signal (The slight gain might be helpful on borderline transponders).

Band Frequency Wavelength
Middle of C-Band - 3.95 GHz - 3.00 inches
Middle of Ku-Band - 11.95 GHz - 0.99 inches

Babadem said:
2) How far apart does the offset have to be from the center LNB, and does it matter if the offset is left or right of the center LNB?

The closer the offset LNB is to the correct focal point of the dish, The stronger the signal quality will be. Also the further away from the correct focal point the LNB is placed,
the less surface area the LNB will see, so you reduce the effective size of the dish seen by the LNB (Lower signal quality).

If the offset LNB is on the right side of the real focal point then the dish has to be pointed more west to pick up a satellite,
and if the offset LNB is on the left side of the dish then the dish will have to be pointed more east to pick up a satellite.

The reason why I decided to place the C-Band LNB on the right side is because where it is positioned it is offset by about 5.5° West
So if I want to pick up C-Band on my furthest Eastern satellite (55.5° west) I need my motor to point at 50.0° West and it can not.
The furthest I can point my dish to is 53° West. With the LNB on the right side I need to point at 61.0° West which my motor can do.

Babadem said:
3) Is it always advisable to cut the C-Band Scalar like this picture by QWERT1515 or can KU LNB be placed just next to the realm of the C-Band Scalar without cutting it?

The reason I cut the scalar was to allow the Ku band LNB to be able to see the whole dish and have the C-Band LNB as close to the real focal point as possible.
(This gives the highest signal quality for an offset LNB).

Babadem

Sep 15, 2009

qwert1515 said:
The Ku band LNB should be at the center of the dish (the correct focal point) because its wave length and focal point is smaller than it is for C-Band.
This is why you have to be more careful when aligning a Ku band dish vs. a C-Band dish.
If you put the C-Band LNB in the center and the Ku-Band LNB on the side you will lose a lot of signal quality on the Ku-Band (A 1.2 Meter dish will seem like a 36" - 39" dish)
and you will not gain that much on the C-Band signal (The slight gain might be helpful on borderline transponders).

Band Frequency Wavelength
Middle of C-Band - 3.95 GHz - 3.00 inches
Middle of Ku-Band - 11.95 GHz - 0.99 inches

The closer the offset LNB is to the correct focal point of the dish, The stronger the signal quality will be. Also the further away from the correct focal point the LNB is placed,
the less surface area the LNB will see, so you reduce the effective size of the dish seen by the LNB (Lower signal quality).

If the offset LNB is on the right side of the real focal point then the dish has to be pointed more west to pick up a satellite,
and if the offset LNB is on the left side of the dish then the dish will have to be pointed more east to pick up a satellite.

The reason why I decided to place the C-Band LNB on the right side is because where it is positioned it is offset by about 5.5° West
So if I want to pick up C-Band on my furthest Eastern satellite (55.5° west) I need my motor to point at 50.0° West and it can not.
The furthest I can point my dish to is 53° West. With the LNB on the right side I need to point at 61.0° West which my motor can do.

The reason I cut the scalar was to allow the Ku band LNB to be able to see the whole dish and have the C-Band LNB as close to the real focal point as possible.
(This gives the highest signal quality for an offset LNB).

Have you had any experience setting up any of the Combined C\Ku LNBs on a MiniBud?

qwert1515

Sep 15, 2009

Babadem said:
Have you had any experience setting up any of the Combined C\Ku LNBs on a MiniBud?

Yes, I am using the Dual Band C-band and KU-band LNBF (GEOSATpro CK1) and I have had better luck using a dedicated Ku band LNB at the correct focal point.
When I had the Dual LNB in the center I had a Ku signal with a quality of around 40% - 50% on my Pansat. Removing the same LNB from the Dual fixture and placing it at the focal point gave me a 90% quality.

Babadem

Sep 16, 2009

qwert1515 said:
Yes, I am using the Dual Band C-band and KU-band LNBF (GEOSATpro CK1) and I have had better luck using a dedicated Ku band LNB at the correct focal point.
When I had the Dual LNB in the center I had a Ku signal with a quality of around 40% - 50% on my Pansat. Removing the same LNB from the Dual fixture and placing it at the focal point gave me a 90% quality.

Thanks qwert1515! Did your C-band "Q" signal decrease as a result of it being offset, as compared to when it was centered? I Would appreciate it if you can post picture(s) of your setup here for a close observation and placement of the LNBs?

Edit: Since this is a motorized setup will the skew for the offset C-band be "0" too?

qwert1515

Sep 16, 2009

Babadem said:
Thanks qwert1515! Did your C-band "Q" signal decrease as a result of it being offset, as compared to when it was centered? I Would appreciate it if you can post picture(s) of your setup here for a close observation and placement of the LNBs?

Edit: Since this is a motorized setup will the skew for the offset C-band be "0" too?

I lost a little bit of quality from the C-Band LNB being offset, about 5% on the Pansat meter.

The skew will be close to zero, but it will not be zero because when the dish is pointing at your true south satellite the offset LNB is pointing 5° away from your true south satellite.

EDIT - Do you still want pictures of my setup?

Babadem

Sep 16, 2009

qwert1515 said:
I lost a little bit of quality from the C-Band LNB being offset, about 5% on the Pansat meter.

The skew will be close to zero, but it will not be zero because when the dish is pointing at your true south satellite the offset LNB is pointing 5° away from your true south satellite.

EDIT - Do you still want pictures of my setup?

Yes, I would like to see the pictures, and thanks for the clarification.

qwert1515

Sep 17, 2009

Babadem said:
Yes, I would like to see the pictures, and thanks for the clarification.

Luckily there was no damage

Here are a few more pictures, if there is anything specific you want to see that the pictures don't show, let me know.

Babadem

Sep 18, 2009

qwert1515 said:
Luckily there was no damage

Here are a few more pictures, if there is anything specific you want to see that the pictures don't show, let me know.

Thanks qwert1515! I will study those pictures intensely.

It appears you modified the Standard Scalar ring to a semi Conical scalar. What kind of signal "Q" were you geeting before adding the modification?

Edit: What was the center LNB looking at when the picture was taken?

putney

Sep 18, 2009

Here's my current prime 84e setup. The scaler on the bsc421 improved the Q ten points to 40Q on the low and 60Q on one TP. My C-band is 8ºw of center.

I have problems with RTN. With the aluminum on the Ku my Q goes from a bouncing 35Q to a steady 35Q with occasional evening peaks to 55Q. My CNX duo's threshold is 35Q.

A round dish my do better.

Babadem

Sep 18, 2009

putney said:
Here's my current prime 84e setup. The scaler on the bsc421 improved the Q ten points to 40Q on the low and 60Q on one TP. My C-band is 8ºw of center.

I have problems with RTN. With the aluminum on the Ku my Q goes from a bouncing 35Q to a steady 35Q with occasional evening peaks to 55Q. My CNX duo's threshold is 35Q.

A round dish my do better.

Nice Setup Putney, and thanks. Using your description above, I take it the C-band is looking at Galaxy 17 91°W . This is a stationary setup(fixed), I believe.

putney

Sep 18, 2009

Babadem said:
Nice Setup Putney, and thanks. Using your description above, I take it the C-band is looking at Galaxy 17 91°W . This is a stationary setup(fixed), I believe.

No, I've got a motor. It's a SG-6000.
I'm at 90.6ºw so 91ºw is my most southern (strongest) sat.

Here's what I pulled when the C-band was centered:

After tweaking the scaler and LNB, I was able to hit C-band on 91w, 113w, 118.8, 123w, 125w, 127w. ( I dropped the LNB and angled it up higher on the dish as suggested) Some were just locks on empty TPs (118.8), but I peaked at 75Q on one TP on 91w. All in all successful at finding strong C-band signals, but it was all christian broadcasting, which is already abundant on Ku. My Ku on a 15º offset tracked the arc and locked on 85% of the signals I had when the LNB was centered, but the signals were down 30Q points.

and a link:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-air-fta-discussion/186725-mini-bud-p-dish-question.html

Babadem

Sep 18, 2009

putney said:
No, I've got a motor. It's a SG-6000.
I'm at 90.6ºw so 91ºw is my most southern (strongest) sat.

Here's what I pulled when the C-band was centered:

and a link:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-air-fta-discussion/186725-mini-bud-p-dish-question.html

Thanks for the update!

Babadem

Sep 18, 2009

With 72°W my true south satellite, if I use 72°W KU at the center, which C-band satellite, can I use as a guide to setup my offset C-band satellite or how many degrees off can i place the C-Band? The nearest C-Band satellite West of 72°W is 15° off and to my east is 58°W and 14° off?

qwert1515

Sep 19, 2009

Babadem said:
Edit: What was the center LNB looking at when the picture was taken?

The center LNB was looking at 99° West Ku.

I would move the dish over to ~ 78° and try to peak the offset LNB's position and skew on 72°, then move the dish over to your most Eastern/Western C-Band satellites and check / re-peak them.

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Bruce

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Last reply 28 minutes ago · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

DirecTV’s Subscribers Number

Thanks to Fitch Ratings ( who gives the ratings on Credit and debt, as approved by the SEC, so they have accurate numbers) we have the totals.

DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.

The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.

It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.

https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/fitch-rates-directv-proposed-senior-secured-debt-offering-bb-rr2-11-05-2026

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raoul5788

May 19, 2026

They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo. Edit: And I've been a Directv customer for 30 years!

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b4pjoe

May 19, 2026

raoul5788 said:
They have one less as of May 15th. I just couldn't justify almost $150 a month any more. I went to Fubo.

Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.
NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.
Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.
A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.
AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

Jimbo

May 19, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.

NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.

Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.

A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.

AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

YouTube TV

raoul5788

May 19, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Fubo would be a non starter for me. Missing channels:

NBCUniversal Channels: NBC local affiliates, USA Network, Bravo, CNBC, MSNBC, E!, Syfy, Telemundo, and the Golf Channel.

NBC Sports: Regional sports networks like NBC Sports Bay Area, Boston, California, and Philadelphia are also off the air.

Warner Bros. Discovery Channels: TBS, TNT, TruTV, CNN, Discovery Channel, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, and Animal Planet.

A&E Networks: A&E, History, Lifetime, and Vice.

AMC Networks: AMC, IFC, SundanceTV, and WE tv

Plus most of its live TV channels and sports broadcasts are currently delivered in 720p.

Understandable. It's always a choice of price vs channels. The $60/month difference made my choice easier.

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Arctic_fox

28 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
YouTube TV

YTTV don't carry the Regional sports channels

so2344

Last reply 33 minutes ago · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

Came back to DirectTV Satellite - Gemini question

Recently came back to DirectTV Satellite service and have two boxes, Gemini and a main HR54.

DirecTV is charging me two "TV access fees" of $10 each, but can only watch TV on the one without the server. Is there anything I can do to fix this?

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FHSPSU67

Apr 25, 2026

First receiver should be free. It is for me.

b4pjoe

Apr 25, 2026

FHSPSU67 said:
First receiver should be free. It is for me.

It is for me too. Back when they merged DIRECTV via Internet and DIRECTV Stream into one service they raised the TV access fee from $7.00 to $10.00 from both streaming and satellite and they eliminated the first receiver free for new customers only. Existing customers weren't affected by the new price and the elimination of the first receiver free policy.

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so2344

May 11, 2026

b4pjoe said:
It is for me too. Back when they merged DIRECTV via Internet and DIRECTV Stream into one service they raised the TV access fee from $7.00 to $10.00 from both streaming and satellite and they eliminated the first receiver free for new customers only. Existing customers weren't affected by the new price and the elimination of the first receiver free policy.

All of this makes me want to cancel satellite again! Customer service said we were getting billed for an old receiver but the call got cut off.

Will call back and try to get this resolved. As of now, only one TV can access satellite service. Would hope they can send another Gemini to be co-located w the main HR54.

so2344

May 28, 2026

Update: after 20 mins on phone with a non North American call center agent, they are sending a tech out. The tech support couldn't understand that the HR54 was at a different TV than the Gemini.

Arctic_fox

33 minutes ago

so2344 said:
Update: after 20 mins on phone with a non North American call center agent, they are sending a tech out. The tech support couldn't understand that the HR54 was at a different TV than the Gemini.

this is why we canceled support and the csr's are garbage even the american ones. it's still under the att system!!!

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Buying from Apple gets an unlocked phone.

PS- New models come out in Octoberish.

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Last reply Yesterday at 11:50 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Three Tuners?

I have a Hopper with Sling. (Don't know exact model.) A couple nights ago, I went into the DVR screen, and noted that it was recording three programs. Yet I was able to view live TV (that was not one of the channels being recorded.) Did something change? In the past, it would only let me watch one of the channels being recorded, or any recording in the DVR menu. Maybe it was streaming, although there was no indication of that?

Apologies if this has been covered; I searched and didn't find anything.

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Cactus Jack

Jun 3, 2026

So I tested.

Started recording three non-network shows and tried to watch live TV, would not do it, because all three tuners were in use.

Started recording two non-network shows and one network show. Still would not let me tune live TV.

Started recording one non-network show and two network shows, then it allowed live TV.

I would assume then that previously I was recording two or three network shows when it allowed live TV; I honestly don't remember what it was doing, and I didn't think to check.

Thanks for replies, everyone.

PS - How does one know whether a program is streaming? Is there a way to force streaming?

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Bobby

Jun 3, 2026

Cactus Jack said:
So I tested.

Started recording three non-network shows and tried to watch live TV, would not do it, because all three tuners were in use.

Started recording two non-network shows and one network show. Still would not let me tune live TV.

Started recording one non-network show and two network shows, then it allowed live TV.

I would assume then that previously I was recording two or three network shows when it allowed live TV; I honestly don't remember what it was doing, and I didn't think to check.

Thanks for replies, everyone.

PS - How does one know whether a program is streaming? Is there a way to force streaming?

There is no way to force streaming. It is a satellite channel or streaming channel except for the rare occasion that the satellite signal fails. If that happens some, not all, channels will automatically change to streaming. You can tell if the channel is streaming by pressing guide on the remote. if it is a streaming channel the guide will clearly show it that way.

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navychop

Jun 3, 2026

Cough, cough, Hopper3!

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Cactus Jack

Jun 5, 2026

Bobby said:
There is no way to force streaming. It is a satellite channel or streaming channel except for the rare occasion that the satellite signal fails. If that happens some, not all, channels will automatically change to streaming. You can tell if the channel is streaming by pressing guide on the remote. if it is a streaming channel the guide will clearly show it that way.

Thanks, Bobby.

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Arctic_fox

Yesterday at 11:50 PM

chokes hopper 3 all the way... 16 tuners vs 3 tuners is a night and day difference. along with a faster processor. i would call in and see if they would upgrade me or you can buy a hopper 3 from solid signal.

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Smuuth

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Last reply Yesterday at 10:15 PM · posted in SatelliteGuys Classifieds

WANTED DirecTV LCC

Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.

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b4pjoe

Jun 2, 2026

Smuuth said:
Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.

You should ask DIRECTV for one if you are affected by the dispute. I know in the past they have given them out during a dispute. Not sure if they still do that but it is free to ask.

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Smuuth

Jun 2, 2026

b4pjoe said:
You should ask DIRECTV for one if you are affected by the dispute. I know in the past they have given them out during a dispute. Not sure if they still do that but it is free to ask.

I already asked, but the CS agent said they wouldn't do it. They said the only thing they could do is $10/month bill credit.

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Jimbo

Jun 3, 2026

Smuuth said:
I already asked, but the CS agent said they wouldn't do it. They said the only thing they could do is $10/month bill credit.

Take the $10 and Call Back ...

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Smuuth

Monday at 10:22 AM

Jimbo said:
Take the $10 and Call Back ...

I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results.

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Jimbo

Monday at 10:39 AM

Smuuth said:
I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results.

Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.

If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.
I would make them give you a real answer, don't let them off the hook.

I had one, and it worked well, but I believe I gave it to another D* friend (also had a AM21), I know I gave them away ...

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Smuuth

Monday at 10:44 AM

Jimbo said:
Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.

If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.

According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit.

Jimbo

Monday at 10:45 AM

Smuuth said:
According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit.

I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.

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Smuuth

Monday at 10:48 AM

Jimbo said:
I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.

Yeah, I know. At one point, I even had 3 AM21s but gave them away when I got rid of my last HR54 and switched to the HS17.

Arctic_fox

Yesterday at 10:00 PM

Good luck they haven't made them in years. you could poke around on ebay and see if there's any on there. if not why not a tablo or a zapper box with an antenna connected to it

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Smuuth

Yesterday at 10:09 PM

Arctic_fox said:
Good luck they haven't made them in years. you could poke around on ebay and see if there's any on there. if not why not a tablo or a zapper box with an antenna connected to it

I have my OTA antenna connected to my television directly already so watching is not the issue. The reason I want the LCC is so I could record programs if I'm not at home to watch them live, especially since ABC is carrying both the NBA and NHL playoffs.
I have an active search on eBay and there is one there but he wants $180 plus shipping and I am not going to pay that.

Arctic_fox

Yesterday at 10:12 PM

Smuuth said:
I have my OTA antenna connected to my television directly already so watching is not the issue. The reason I want the LCC is so I could record programs if I'm not at home to watch them live, especially since ABC is carrying both the NBA and NHL playoffs.
I have an active search on eBay and there is one there but he wants $180 plus shipping and I am not going to pay that.

a tablo box is cheaper

Amazon.com

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Arctic_fox

Yesterday at 10:15 PM

why invest in hardware that's going to be boat anchors in a few years?

zippyfrog

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Last reply Yesterday at 10:05 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Price Increase on Owned Equipment?

Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.

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telstar_1

Yesterday at 1:28 PM

Does cable charge box rent?

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RJT79

Yesterday at 4:47 PM

telstar_1 said:
Does cable charge box rent?

The cable company I was with years ago did charge $9.99 for a receiver.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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RJT79

Yesterday at 5:03 PM

zippyfrog said:
Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.

I went to try to add the Heartland channel as dummy to see what it would do for me as I own my receiver and have DISH Outdoors and this is what mine shows. (Note however I had to take the 2nd receiver I told you I added the other day off because I was told you can only have 1 receiver when you have a one outlet on the Dish Playmaker and was having issues with the 2nd receiver and I didn't know that and that was done yesterday as well so I am back to one receiver.)

Let's upgrade your package.

Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month.

Breakdown

June 11, 2026 - July 11, 2026
You are changing your programming in the middle of the bill cycle. The bill shown below is your bill for next month including prorations and credits. Your following bill will return to the fixed rate. This bill will take effect from now until July 11, 2026.
Monthly Services
$86.99
Flex Pack
$72.99
Local Channels
$14.00
Add-Ons
$68.98
National Action Pack
$12.00
Regional Action Pack
$12.00
News Pack
$10.00
Paramount+ with Showtime
$10.00
Drama and Classics Pack
$6.00
Heartland Pack
$6.00
Starz Encore Movies
$6.00
On DISH Magazine
$4.99
Starz 2 Mo ($11)
$1.99
Prorated Charges
$7.93
Heartland Pack Jun 11 - Jul 20
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93
Prorated Total
$7.93
Due Today
$7.93

Transition Bill Total
$156.10
Proposed Changes
Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month
Monthly Services
$86.99
Add-Ons
$68.98
FCC Regulatory Surcharge
$0.13
Taxes & Surcharges
$0.00

Monthly Total
$156.10
Prorated Total
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93

Due Today
$7.93

Sounds like an issue with DISH Billing

RJ T.
From Illinois

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zippyfrog

Yesterday at 5:19 PM

I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.

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RJT79

Yesterday at 5:29 PM

zippyfrog said:
I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.

I am hoping they don't add this down the road. Things are expensive the way it is now. Even DIRECTV allows the first receiver free. This would go against DISH and DISH is already loosing subscribers I wouldn't think they would do these kind of tricks but you never know. Always look at your bills for unknow charges. I heard horror stories of people getting charged for things they didn't know were there.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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Arctic_fox

Yesterday at 10:05 PM

telstar_1 said:
Does cable charge box rent?

yes big cable charges crazy dvr fee's and box rental fee's

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teachtom

Last reply Yesterday at 9:21 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Problem when I switch from Bonus View channels back to regular Dish channels

Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

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HipKat

Yesterday at 5:07 PM

teachtom said:
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look

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RJT79

Yesterday at 5:17 PM

teachtom said:
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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teachtom

Yesterday at 7:33 PM

RJT79 said:
First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois

Thank you for the information. I do keep the TV plugged into a surge protector, but we have had pretty strong thunderstorms/lightning in the last month so that have contributed to my problem.The house was built in 2009 so everything seems to be grounded correctly. We have had a power surge also. Seems like no one fixes anything any more, so just get a new one or live with the problem. Thanks

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teachtom

Yesterday at 7:39 PM

HipKat said:
First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look

I think the HDMI cable is good, i used one of my own from my 4K atmos system, i'll switch it with another just to check. Also I have a bid in at Greentoe for 77" G5. Thanks

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HipKat

Yesterday at 8:17 PM

teachtom said:
I think the HDMI cable is good, i used one of my own from my 4K atmos system, i'll switch it with another just to check. Also I have a bid in at Greentoe for 77" G5. Thanks

I hope that works. I'm waiting til Black Friday sales

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Darrell S

Yesterday at 9:21 PM

I've had this problem with my older Sony TV. It happens when I just punch in a regular channel number. The only way it works right for me is to push guide and select a regular channel from the guide screen.

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