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[Problem Solved] Help: Sudden Loss of Signal

I've had DirecTV since January of 2004. The picture has been splendid except during unusally bad storms. I reside in an apartment in the Cleveland, Ohio (44121) area. The dish is secured to the top of the building. I use a dual-tuner Philips DSR-704.

Late yesterday afternoon, around 4 P.M., the screen went black and I received a message that said something along the lines of "Searching for a signal on Sat. 1 and Sat 2". This message persisted throughout the night. The next morning, I flipped on the TV and saw a message saying something along the lines of "recorder trying to download signal from satellite". For some reason, the dish was not able to connect to the satellite.

I tried all of the trouble-shooting suggestions. I made sure everything was correctly plugged in. I unplugged the unit for five minutes and then plugged it back in. Still, the dish could not pick up a signal. I climbed the ladder to the top of the roof and examined the dish. It appeared to be securely in place. There was absolutely no play on the dish whatsoever. It seemed to be in the precise location as when it was installed by the professional installers.

I examined the azimuth, elevation, and tilt configurations on the dish and they seemed very close (practically exact) to the recommended configurations. I am able to still watch shows recorded on the DVR, but nothing else.

As far as I can tell, absolutely nothing (dish, connections, etc.) has changed.

I called DirecTV and they said it would cost $70 for a service call. In my opinion, that's pretty outrageous. I pay $50 a month for programming and I never had to pay for a service call when I had cable.

Does anyone have any ideas as to what could be preventing the dish from picking up a signal? I've tried all the troubleshooting suggestions (including pulling the card out and then putting it back in).

This whole experience is really turning me off to DirecTV.

Below is a thumbnail of my dish on the rooftop:
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Is that the only reciever that you have? If you have another try connecting it to test if your reciever died, Or try connecting your (bad) reciever to a confirmed working line ( even at a neighbor's house if need be :P ). The problem may lie in the reciever and not your cabling. Which would be cheaper to replace than paying for a service call.
Also your signal strength is showing 0 on all transponders on all 3 satalites, correct?
(i'd hope the csr already went over those two questions with you)

The $70 is charged since DTV is contracting a company to come out and service your equipment where as your cable company was coming out to service their own equipment (or even contracting someone else to service their own equipment). The price is so high as it is a general fee to cover most every possible situation unless you request custom work be done by the technician.
P
Sounds like a bad tuner in the receiver or bad LNB.
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In response to Rancid1's questions, yes, it is the only receiver I have. I am not able to try my receiver at a neighbor's house. Yes, the signal is 0 on all three transponders on all three satellites.

I checked the warrenty on my DVR/DirecTV receiver and it says I've got one year. So, I'm still within in that timeframe. I reviewed the contract I signed with the original installer contracted by DirecTV (Bluegrass Satellite) and it says that I need to call them if I have a problem. Either way, this is costing me a lot of loot. This should be reliable equipment and a reliable service. And it is certainly not that.

If anyone else has any ideas, I'd be interesting in hearing them. Thank you for responding and I'll be sure to post updates as developments unfold.
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May be a dumb question, but did you check the cable lines from the dish to the reciever? I've seen other installers go to apartments and figure that the existing dish was'nt being used and just ran cables from the ground block to the the new location instead of installing a new dish. Dumb, but true.
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Okay, my signal has returned.

In a last ditch effort, I climbed to the roof to triple-check the alignment of the satellite dish. As I mentioned earlier, the dish was still securely in position with absoultey no play. It had been professionally installed. I visually checked the elevation and tilt settings and they were very close to the required configurations.

The tilt was dead on at 62 degrees. I didn't touch that. The elevation was a bit trickier. The gauge on one side of the LNB Arm/Antenna Back Assembly had a different measurement than the gauge on the other side. Both measurements were about 2 to 4 degrees off of recommended elevation. I loosened the bolts and moved the gauge measurement to the recommended 34 degrees. So, it registered correct on one side of the back assembly, but was a little off on the other side.

I went to Wal-Mart and bought a compass that had azimuth indicator. It was a bit difficult to figure out the exact azimuth of the dish. My best guess was that the dish was off maybe 15 degrees or so. I had a friend stand on the roof with a cell phone to adjust the azimuth. I called him and reported back the level of signal strength that I was seeing on the televison.

He moved the azimuth and a satellite signal was detected. The signal varied and wasn't detected on Sat B (119) trans. 23-31. He was getting really cold on the roof, so I figured we should switch postions and would try my hand with the azimuth. He came inside and I went to the roof. It took about 10 minutes to switch positions. By the time I made it to the roof, he indicated to me via cell phone that the signal was now coming in loud and clear. I waited for the entire system to get synced up (which it did successfully) and came back inside. Everything appeared normal.

So, my signal has returned. I needed to adjust the dish. I'm very confident that the dish wasn't disturbed by anything because it was very securely in place on the roof. I'm guessing that maybe the original installation was incorrectly done and the dish was set at the wrong coordinates. Perhaps the satellites position in space changed very slightly and didn't affect those dishes that were aligned correctly, but only affected those dishes that were "barely" configured correctly. I don't know for sure. That's my best guess. I just can't belive that anything (man, animal, wind) knocked my dish out of whack because roof access is very tough to get. The dish also has a very clear unobstructed view of the Southern sky. So nothing grew or was built to obstruct the signal.

I saved myself a $70 service call and the certain aggravation of dealing with the predictably unreliable satellite installer. I also learned that Satellite technology is more fragile than I figured. I'm a bit concerned about the dish now. I'm really hoping that it stays in alignment.

This story ended well for me, but I'm sure it would have ended differently for someone older, like a senior citizen (who could not get easy access to the dish) or for a technophobe who wouldn't be able to understand and printout the installation instructions.

Thanks everybody for your input. I appreciated it.
dishstaller
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I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share
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Jimbo
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

Walmart isn't the only one ...
Juan
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price
harshness
Walmart isn't the only one ...
I've been seeing this more and more on Amazon. Sometimes it seems there is no way they could have arrived at the number.

What rankles me even more is Costco changing units of measure between similar products, so you have to convert them to compare prices.
dishstaller
When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.
Scott Greczkowski
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
harshness
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.
Foxbat
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.
Bobby
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.
Winter blend is cheaper than Summer blend.
Bobby
Regular$5.839​
Premium$6.299​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
harshness
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?
Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.
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Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Ok checked it out and for some reason the web server (NGINX) tried starting before the DNS resolver fully loaded. This is why it worked when I rebooted the machine.

Thanks to ChatGPT it had me change the NGINX config to prevent this from happening again.

With that said I can't prevent the ISP from doing emergency upgrades which was the cause of all of this.
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God help us.
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I guess this is what the downtime was about.

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Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
4​
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HD​
264​
2​
1449​
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SD mpeg4​
145​
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194​
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SD mpeg2​
433​
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RB​
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Audio​
89​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
19​
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1​
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TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
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HD​
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1​
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SD mpeg4​
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SD mpeg2​
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RB​
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Engr Work​
38​
-2​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
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weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:
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HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps
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HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps
Wait…..
So even though DAZN keeps touting 'only way to see games' if you are a subscriber to Choice (like my stepdad) if an agreement is reached he can see the Wolfies on 668?
I know the Wild are in dispute and a slate is on 668-1.
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I don't get my hopes up for anything with Travolta these days.