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Stargazer
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Looks like Echostar is going after some of that stimulus money as well ...

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The RUS BIP program will allow EchoStar Broadband I L.L.C. ("EchoStar") to reach about 426,104 rural unserved/underserved U.S. households with no or negligible broadband access from terrestrial providers. EchoStar will use unused bandwidth capacity on two existing satellites to serve up to about 100,000 rural unserved and underserved households at a very attractive price-point.

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EchoBlue Rural Broadband, LLC

Through a joint venture between WildBlue Communications, Inc. and EchoStar Broadband II L.L.C., EchoBlue Rural Broadband, LLC will deploy a next generation, affordably priced satellite broadband service to our nation's most rural and remote citizens. EchoBlue's project is the most cost-effective way to deliver 10Mbps broadband service to over 1.5 million consumers within the contiguous 48 states.

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Stargazer
I already know that the government does not consider satellite broadband as part of a broadband solution and has said that they will not get stimulus money. Kind of interesting how they went ahead and applied anyways. I would be very disapointed if satellite broadband got any grants due to limitations and ping issues. I believe that F.A.P. and oversubscribing causing a lot slower bandwidth for customers is the worst thing for satellite. Wireless from towers is the best alternative to fiber/copper/cable, not satellite.

I do think that in certain markets this could lead to cheaper services but for the most part, there is not enough stimulus money being given out to make that big of an impact. There should be at least 10-20 times this amount to make a good impact. A lot of the money is going to be used for research and other things, not expanding broadband.
Stargazer
The end user would NEVER EVER see that much throughput from Hughes. That is the their total bandwidth which has to be split up among all of their subscribers. They have to keep upgrading their stuff in order to be able to add additional customers. Also, just because it is capable of a high amount of bandwidth does not mean that it will help the end user. It just means they can add more customers. They are not going to purchase more bandwidth than what they need to. I sure the heck hope service improves because it sure sucks right now. Dialup speeds or worse during the daytime is NOT broadband, along with download caps.

Eventually and hopefully there will be enough alternatives to satellite in many areas that currently do not have it within a few years. Whitespaces that will use existing spectrum that is also used for digital tv stations will help out with this quite a bit to fill in the gaps along with improvements in cell phone companies and expansion of wifi. Satellite will have to dramatically improve or get out of the way.
harshness
I believe that F.A.P. and oversubscribing causing a lot slower bandwidth for customers is the worst thing for satellite. Wireless from towers is the best alternative to fiber/copper/cable, not satellite.
What makes WiMax any different from satellite (other than the latency issues)???

Universal access is ostensibly for information access, not to facilitate interactive gaming applications. I might accept a VPN argument.
Stargazer
Latency causes issues with not only gaming, but with VPN and VOIP as well.

A GOOD WISP will not have issues like satellite has, gives you more bang for the buck when it comes to price and speed. Many WISPS do not have the strict F.A.P. limits like satellite does.
harshness
Latency causes issues with not only gaming, but with VPN and VOIP as well.
Let's not get too far afield of what universal access means. While gaming and VOIP are popular uses, they aren't "necessities".
A GOOD WISP will not have issues like satellite has, gives you more bang for the buck when it comes to price and speed. Many WISPS do not have the strict F.A.P. limits like satellite does.
Any broadband service with sufficient customer base will eventually establish bandwidth caps when churn becomes an issue.

WISPs are especially vulnerable as they typically can't lease plant for expansion as a wireline service might be able to do. WISPs typically make much of the fact that they have their own WAN facilities.
apsc
Whats the story behind ViaSat buying out Wildblue?
2009-10-01 - Corporate Integrates one of the USA's fastest growing broadband ISPs with the ViaSat-1 satellite venture and positions WildBlue® satellite broadband for accelerated growth and expansion
Capital-efficient transaction expected to be accretive to ViaSat Non-GAAP EPS immediately after close
Carlsbad, CA and Greenwood Village, CO – ViaSat Inc. (Nasdaq: VSAT), a producer of innovative satellite and other wireless communication systems, has signed a definitive agreement to acquire privately-held WildBlue Communications Inc., the premier Ka-band satellite broadband service provider, in a cash and stock transaction valued at $568 million. The combination sets the stage for accelerated growth and expansion of the WildBlue broadband service using ViaSat next generation network technology, featuring the high-capacity ViaSat-1 satellite scheduled to launch in early 2011.
"WildBlue and ViaSat have been close partners for nearly a decade and today's announcement is the logical next step," said Mark Dankberg, chairman and CEO of ViaSat. "By integrating ViaSat-1 and its ground network technology into the WildBlue operational and distribution platform, we believe we can meaningfully reduce our operational execution risks. Joining forces with ViaSat provides fast and efficient access to next-generation capacity for the WildBlue business and its subscribers. This synergy, coupled with the improved free cash flow profile WildBlue has attained in the last year, has enabled us to structure what we believe is a highly capital efficient transaction that offers immediate financial benefits to ViaSat. In our view, it's exceptional to be able to make an acquisition with so many strategic benefits under such favorable financial terms."
In acquiring WildBlue, ViaSat gains one of the most successful and fastest growing wholesale and retail broadband service providers in the United States. In less than five years, WildBlue has become one of the top twenty broadband U.S. ISPs with over 400,000 customers (as measured by total subscribers according to data compiled by Leitchman Research and ISP Planet). The WildBlue high-speed, two-way Internet service for residential and small business customers, powered exclusively by the ViaSat SurfBeam® networking system, provides fast, reliable connections regardless of the customer's location. WildBlue pioneered the use of "unprocessed" Ka-band spot beam technology to increase capacity and lower bandwidth costs, portending the value potential for the technology innovations ViaSat-1 will make possible.
"Our new satellite," Dankberg continues, "will have nearly all of its capacity aimed at those areas where WildBlue growth is constrained by lack of cost-effective bandwidth. The planned launch of ViaSat-1 in early 2011 is expected to multiply WildBlue total network capacity by more than tenfold, and by a factor of over 20 in those areas with the highest demand at a fraction of its current bandwidth costs. The increased bandwidth coupled with next generation ViaSat network technology is expected to enable WildBlue to increase upstream and downstream user speeds by factors of 3 to 5 times in those high-demand areas at current subscription prices, substantially raising the value to consumers."
David Leonard, CEO of WildBlue, commented, "Over the past several years, we focused on acquiring and retaining customers, scaling our business and generating cash flow. The combination with ViaSat sets the stage both strategically and financially for the next phase of growth at WildBlue. We believe ViaSat, through its success with WildBlue in the Unites States, Barrett XPlornet® in Canada, and Eutelsat ToowaySM in Europe, has achieved the economies of scale needed to make satellite broadband affordable and competitive. With the addition of ViaSat-1 capacity to our network, we believe we can grow our subscriber base to become a top ten broadband ISP in the U.S. and expand further domestically and internationally."
In addition to accelerating the growth of WildBlue's consumer satellite broadband business, the transaction also promotes organic growth opportunities for other ViaSat commercial and defense businesses.
"WildBlue's satellites accelerate our entrance into new Ka-band broadband applications by over a year. We have been making steady progress pursuing defense and mobile broadband markets in the U.S. and globally," continued Dankberg. "We are very excited about integrating the WildBlue team into all of our global broadband technology and service initiatives."
A Combination Rooted in Integration
Since announcing plans to build ViaSat-1 in early 2008, ViaSat has been in discussions with several potential strategic and financial partners.
"WildBlue is in a unique position and was always our first choice as a partner," said Dankberg. "We have worked together for a decade creating the Ka-band broadband market. We know and complement each other extremely well – creating an integrated technology and services company. The key was structuring a financially attractive transaction that fairly apportions value for all the constituencies; preserves the resources and relationships that are the source of technical, operational and market advantages; and has clear, consistent purpose and governance. We believe we have done that today."
Liberty Media to Appoint Representative to ViaSat Board
At closing, WildBlue shareholders are expected to have the right to nominate one representative to the ViaSat board of directors and have agreed to allow Liberty Media, who is expected to become a significant shareholder of ViaSat as part of this transaction, to select the representative.
"Our longstanding investment in WildBlue reflects our keen interest in new broadband access and media delivery networks of all types," said Mark Carleton of Liberty Media, who also is chairman of WildBlue. "In just a few years, WildBlue established a demand for its service and rapidly grew to over 400,000 subscribers. We believe that combining the service and technology companies, expanding the market applications, and adding the timely quantum leap in network capacity expected by the ViaSat-1 satellite, establishes an even more competitive platform for further growth and value creation for shareholders."
In addition, Intelsat, Tennenbaum Capital Partners, the National Rural Telecommunications Cooperative, and Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers are also expected to become ViaSat shareholders as a result of the transaction.
Transaction Terms and Highlights
The purchase price is approximately $568 million, or approximately $500 million taking into account WildBlue's expected amount of cash on hand today. Key factors in the transaction structure include:

  • Free cash flow generated by WildBlue is expected to meaningfully exceed the transaction financing costs and, accordingly, WildBlue cash flow is expected to become a source of funds to complete ViaSat-1 and accelerate network build-out.
  • For the trailing twelve month period ended June 30, 2009, WildBlue generated revenues of approximately $209 million, adjusted EBITDA of $76 million and $52 million of unlevered free cash flow.
  • ViaSat to retain WildBlue cash on hand at closing, the amount of which is expected to change modestly between now and closing due to anticipated free cash flow in WildBlue's business and certaincustomary closing adjustments
  • ViaSat assessment of the fair value of the net assets acquired as of the estimated transaction close date is expected to approximate the purchase price – resulting in no additional goodwill on the ViaSat balance sheet.
Key terms of the transaction include:

  • It is anticipated that the consideration to be delivered at closing to the WildBlue shareholders and creditors will consist of $443 million of cash and $125 million of newly issued ViaSat common stock.
  • ViaSat intends to finance the cash portion of the transaction from a combination of WildBlue and ViaSat available cash on hand, and by working with certain of our lenders and others (i.e., JP Morgan, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, and Union Bank) to structure financing which is expected to be implemented prior to close.
  • ViaSat has arranged with WildBlue current creditors a $350 million second lien term loan with a four year maturity (following closing). This loan can be used, at ViaSat's sole election, in whole or in part, in the event third-party debt financing is not raised on satisfactory terms prior to closing.
  • The number of ViaSat common shares to be issued at closing will be determined based on the ten-day volume weighted average closing price ("VWAP") of ViaSat shares shortly prior to closing, subject to a collar mechanism; accordingly, ViaSat will issue at closing not more than approximately 5.685 million shares or not less than approximately 4.262 million shares. In the event the VWAP is equal to $25.73 (i.e., the midpoint of the collar), ViaSat will issue approximately 4.858 million shares.
  • ViaSat has the right to substitute additional cash for some or all of the ViaSat common shares to be issued at closing.
Closing
The transaction is subject to customary regulatory and other conditions and is expected to close in the fourth quarter of ViaSat's 2010 fiscal year, which ends April 2, 2010. The transaction is not subject to a vote of the ViaSat shareholders.
Advisors
Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC and Latham & Watkins LLP acted as lead financial and legal advisor, respectively, to ViaSat. Morgan Stanley and Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom acted as financial and legal advisor, respectively, to WildBlue.
Conference Call
ViaSat will host a conference call on Thursday, October 1, 2009 at 10:00 a.m. Eastern Time to discuss this acquisition. The dial-in number is (888) 378-4350 in the U.S. and (719) 457-2705 internationally. Listeners can also access the conference call webcast and other material information discussed on the conference call on the Investor Relations section of our website at investors.viasat.com. The call will be archived and available on that site for approximately one month immediately following the conference call.
A replay of the conference call will be available from 2:00 p.m. Eastern Time on Thursday, October 1, 2009 through midnight Sunday, October 4, 2009 by dialing (888) 203-1112 for U.S. callers and (719) 457-0820 for international callers, and entering the passcode 2147932.
About ViaSat
ViaSat produces innovative satellite and other digital communication products that enable fast, secure, and efficient communications to any location. The company provides networking products and managed network services for enterprise IP applications; is a key supplier of network-centric military communications and encryption technologies and products to the U.S. government; and is the primary technology partner for gateway and customer-premises equipment for consumer and mobile satellite broadband services. ViaSat also offers design capabilities and a number of complementary products including monolithic microwave integrated circuits and modules, DVB-S2 satellite communication components, video data link systems, data acceleration and compression, and mobile satellite antenna systems. ViaSat is based in Carlsbad, CA, has major locations in Duluth, GA, and Germantown, MD (Comsat Laboratories division), and additional field offices and service centers worldwide.
About WildBlue (www.wildblue.com)
WildBlue Communications, Inc. was established to provide broadband access to consumers and small offices in areas unserved and underserved by terrestrial broadband internet services. WildBlue high-speed satellite broadband service is easy to use, reliable, always on, and significantly faster than standard dial-up service. It opens up a window to a world of rich content that is largely unavailable through dial-up service and is accessible in areas traditionally underserved by cable modem or DSL service. Service is available in the contiguous United States.
Safe Harbor Statement
This press release contains forward-looking statements that are subject to the safe harbors created under the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. We use words such as "anticipate," "believe," "continue," "could," "estimate," "expect," "goal," "intend," "may," "plan," "project," "seek," "should," "target," "will," "would," variations of such words and similar expressions to identify forward-looking statements. In addition, forward-looking statements include, among others, statements that refer to WildBlue's expected contributions to ViaSat earnings, profits and EPS; projections of earnings, revenue, costs or other financial items of ViaSat, WildBlue and the combined company; the anticipated value of the combined business to customers and partners; the expected performance of WildBlue service, along with the ViaSat-1 satellite; the expected closing of the proposed acquisition; anticipated growth and trends in the business or key markets of ViaSat, WildBlue, and the combined company; and plans, objectives and strategies for future operations. Readers are cautioned that actual results could differ materially from those expressed in any forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause actual results to differ include: the ability of the parties to consummate the proposed acquisition on the terms described in this release, or at all; the satisfaction of the various closing conditions to the proposed acquisition; the ability of ViaSat to successfully integrate WildBlue operations and employees; the ability to realize anticipated benefits of the proposed acquisition, including the expectation of greater revenue opportunities, operating efficiencies and cost savings; the ability to ensure continued performance and market growth of WildBlue's business; the ability to have manufactured or successfully launch ViaSat-1, or implement the related satellite service; the ability to realize anticipated increases in capacity, user speeds and quality by combining ViaSat-1 and WildBlue; continued turmoil in global financial markets and economies; the availability and cost of credit; the ability to successfully develop, introduce, and sell new products and enhancements; changes in relationships with key customers, suppliers, distributors, resellers, and others as a result of the acquisition; and other factors affecting the communications industry generally. In addition, please refer to the risk factors contained in ViaSat's SEC filings available at www.sec.gov, including ViaSat's most recent Annual Report on Form 10-K and Quarterly Reports on Form 10-Q. Readers are cautioned not to place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date on which they are made. The companies undertake no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements for any reason.
Use of Non-GAAP Financial Information
To supplement ViaSat's consolidated financial statements presented in accordance with GAAP, ViaSat uses non-GAAP EPS and adjusted EBITDA, measures ViaSat believes are appropriate to enhance an overall understanding of ViaSat's past financial performance and prospects for the future. Non-GAAP EPS and adjusted EBITDA exclude the effects of acquisition charges (amortization of intangible assets and acquisition related expenses) and non-cash stock-based compensation expenses. We believe the non-GAAP results provide useful information to both management and investors by excluding specific expenses that we believe are not indicative of our core operating results. In addition, since we have historically reported non-GAAP results to the investment community, we believe the inclusion of non-GAAP numbers provides consistency in our financial reporting and facilitates comparisons to the company's historical operating results. Further, these adjusted non-GAAP results are among the primary indicators that management uses as a basis for planning and forecasting in future periods. The presentation of this additional information is not meant to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles.

WildBlue is a registered trademark of WildBlue Communications Inc.
Tooway is a service mark of Eutelsat Communications.
Xplornet is a registered trademark of Barrett Xplore Inc.

SurfBeam is a registered trademark of ViaSat Inc.
Comsat Labs and Comsat Laboratories are trade names of ViaSat, Inc. Neither Comsat Labs nor Comsat Laboratories is affiliated with COMSAT Corporation. "Comsat" is a registered trademark of COMSAT Corporation.


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dishstaller
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I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


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Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.
You are paying for the whole thing
T
You are paying for the whole thing
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
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Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
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I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
Jimbo
I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
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The larger discrepancies are likely from a data or sync issue. Digital tags don't cause the error, but they can spread one bad entry across a whole store or region instantly. The small cent differences are probably just rounding in the weight, the price data, or both.
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Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
Is it real Ice-cream?
Jimbo
Is it real Ice-cream?
Is it Real Ice cream ???
Depends on what your talking about.
(((Garyd)))
Is it Real Ice cream ???
Depends on what your talking about.
Most don't have any milk in them
dishstaller
The larger discrepancies are likely from a data or sync issue. Digital tags don't cause the error, but they can spread one bad entry across a whole store or region instantly. The small cent differences are probably just rounding in the weight, the price data, or both.
It's simple math. You take the price and divide by the number of ounces and come up with the price per ounce. I find it hard to believe that Walmart's computers can't carry out simple division.
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It's simple math. You take the price and divide by the number of ounces and come up with the price per ounce. I find it hard to believe that Walmart's computers can't carry out simple division.
The division isn't the problem, the inputs are. On the Starbucks pods, $9.22 @ $3.35/oz works out to 2.75 oz, but the box is 1.94 oz. So either the system has the wrong weight on file, or the unit price is left over from an older price of about $6.50 that never got updated. Garbage in, garbage out. Walmart's had unit-pricing data problems before, too - in 2024 they paid $1.64M to settle with New Jersey after inspectors found 2,000+ instances of unit prices using the wrong unit of measure.
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Garbage in, garbage out.
THAT is most likely the culprit.
in 2024 they paid $1.64M to settle with New Jersey after inspectors found 2,000+ instances of unit prices using the wrong unit of measure.
So....its intentional. The new fine needs to be a billion $...that would cause someone to fix the issue.
Y
Most don't have any milk in them
*nit pick* You want cream or more precisely FAT to make ice cream. Milk isn't heavy enough. When making my own, I use half and half.
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The division isn't the problem, the inputs are. On the Starbucks pods, $9.22 @ $3.35/oz works out to 2.75 oz, but the box is 1.94 oz. So either the system has the wrong weight on file, or the unit price is left over from an older price of about $6.50 that never got updated. Garbage in, garbage out. Walmart's had unit-pricing data problems before, too - in 2024 they paid $1.64M to settle with New Jersey after inspectors found 2,000+ instances of unit prices using the wrong unit of measure.
Wrong unit of measure? Having a hard time believing that or were they conflating solid and fluid ounces (stupid US measuring system).

The first two coffees aren't off on the same amount, so likely the unit price is linked to some previous price. Now I have to *bleeping* double check more math? Does anyone check anything anymore? Bad enough in the professional world having to QA/QC a third party's work. Don't want to have to do that in the grocery store now too! Not with the absurd measures that are used in the US. Is that unit price for blueberries in ounces or pints...

First world problems, but man... argh!!!
TRG
TRG
Wrong unit of measure? Having a hard time believing that or were they conflating solid and fluid ounces (stupid US measuring system).

Not with the absurd measures that are used in the US. Is that unit price for blueberries in ounces or pints...

You always have the option of moving to a country that uses a unit of measurement that better suits your needs.
dishstaller
Thought this might be a nice diversion, this same guy audited Publix's package weight....yes, I know this is different from the original post on this thread.....and it was accurate.


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IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.
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IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.
Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko? It's slim pickings out there anymore. The FTA market in the US has pretty much been abandoned.

This would likely be your best bet, and Rick is a good seller. I've never had any issues with him:

T
Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko? It's slim pickings out there anymore. The FTA market in the US has pretty much been abandoned.

This would likely be your best bet, and Rick is a good seller. I've never had any issues with him:

Thanks
T
Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko?

YOU WERE RIGHT. IT IS WORKING NOW WITH 2X AMPS !!

DAN
cyberham
...YOU WERE RIGHT. IT IS WORKING NOW WITH 2X AMPS !!
Give us a summary of what you receive with a 6-footer. I'm very curious.
dishstaller
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Love this guy's channel. Looks like Walmart has thrown in the towel when it comes to conventional car batteries.

I bought a new AGM battery from Walmart about a year ago, it is already needing replacing. I thought about just buying a regular battery but from what I've read, that might not be a smart move. Might check my Forscan program and see if I can change the battery type from AGM.


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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Make Me Smile/Now More Than Ever - Chicago
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Sara Smile - Hall and Oates
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When I See You Smile - Bad English
dishstaller
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Can't help but wonder if a worker overlooked checking the harness. I rarely ride a roller coaster anymore but when I do I check the harness myself pretty aggressively.
Can't imagine what the son is going through.

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Jimbo
dishstaller
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
Jimbo
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
It makes sense, however, I would want more types of restraints, so if one doesn't work, the other does ... the restraints coming over the shoulder I would have expected ... with a Seat belt as last resort.

Fwiw, I inquired with what they use on Coasters at Cedar Point, various Coasters, different restraints according to what the car and track requires ...

NONE of the Coasters at CP use THAT particular system :)
I'm glad to see ...
dishstaller
with a Seat belt as last resort.
According to the article, when you see a seat belt on a ride like this, it is basically used as a way of making sure the rider isn't too large/fat to safely ride the ride.
Jimbo
According to the article, when you see a seat belt on a ride like this, it is basically used as a way of making sure the rider isn't too large/fat to safely ride the ride.
Well, the over the shoulder support is better, but would require reconfiguring the cars.
Jimbo
Heres an article from the Akron Beacon ... seeing Six Flags has bought Cedar Point and Kings Island, they are included ...
I said earlier that Cedar Point doesn't use this type of seat restraint ... well, it does use it, But the difference is, the ones up here ALSO have the Over the shoulder restraint as well ... like I was suggesting that they should have used with the Goliath.

One of the new(er) one at Cedar point the Gate Keeper, uses the Clam shell .. I have rode it many times and have Mostly felt secure, that ride will stop you part way on the ride and you just hang, till the ride is ready to continue ... I typically ride the Front Car ... when its getting ready, you ARE hanging, in the car, looking down .... it would require 2 separate restraint systems to unlock at the same time to possibly get out of it.

dishstaller
UPDATE: Six Flags is adding seatbelts to all 9 rollercoasters

Jimbo
UPDATE: Six Flags is adding seatbelts to all 9 rollercoasters

Finally ....
dishstaller
Finally ....
It DOES kinda seem like a simple safety feature.
dishstaller
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Didn't see a thread like this so I figured why not start one. This is about natural supplements. If you aren't into supplements, fine, but please let those of us who do want to discuss this discuss it.

The first one I wanted to mention has been a real life changer. I'm 62 and still do all of my own install work at my business....also do all the yard work at the house. A few years ago I started noticing that I was losing my range of movement, it was even getting hard to bend over and lace up my boots. Almost got stuck in an attic because I couldn't get turned around once the work was done. Didn't think much of it and figured with age comes stiffness that was only going to get worse as time went on.
It was then that I stumbled across a video which was discussing rotator cuff tears and why they were to prevalent these days. Turns out, the culprit is a simple deficiency in MANGANESE which is key in keeping your tendons flexible. Most anti-biotics strip your body of any manganese it might have had which is why certain anti-biotics, especially those in the Cipro family. I actually knew a man who had two tendons tear while on that stuff.
Went to Amazon and ordered some manganese. Now it took a while, it wasn't instant, but gradually I have regained all of my flexibility. I can bend over and touch my toes while standing with no pain and putting on my boots is no longer a chore.
Pretty cheap too. The bottle I ordered was a 200 ct for under $13. They said to take double the normal dose for the first month because most people are severely lacking, then go to one a day.
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Not sure if this would qualify as a supplement but here goes: When I meet someone who is in their 90s and doing very well healthwise I always ask what they attribute their longevity to. Out of all the people I questioned, there was only ONE thing that they ALL did. They all drank some apple cider vinegar daily....usually before bed. You can water it down all you want. Who knows why, but I do it. You want to buy the organic type with the mother.
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Didn't see a thread like this so I figured why not start one. This is about natural supplements. If you aren't into supplements, fine, but please let those of us who do want to discuss this discuss it.

The first one I wanted to mention has been a real life changer. I'm 62 and still do all of my own install work at my business....also do all the yard work at the house. A few years ago I started noticing that I was losing my range of movement, it was even getting hard to bend over and lace up my boots. Almost got stuck in an attic because I couldn't get turned around once the work was done. Didn't think much of it and figured with age comes stiffness that was only going to get worse as time went on.
It was then that I stumbled across a video which was discussing rotator cuff tears and why they were to prevalent these days. Turns out, the culprit is a simple deficiency in MANGANESE which is key in keeping your tendons flexible. Most anti-biotics strip your body of any manganese it might have had which is why certain anti-biotics, especially those in the Cipro family. I actually knew a man who had two tendons tear while on that stuff.
Went to Amazon and ordered some manganese. Now it took a while, it wasn't instant, but gradually I have regained all of my flexibility. I can bend over and touch my toes while standing with no pain and putting on my boots is no longer a chore.
Pretty cheap too. The bottle I ordered was a 200 ct for under $13. They said to take double the normal dose for the first month because most people are severely lacking, then go to one a day.
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Chia Seeds
Kinda the whole idea is to mention something and explain WHY it is something we might want to add to our daily routine.
This is what I got from google. Looks like I'm going to be adding them, thanks

Key Health Benefits
    • Digestive Health: One ounce (28 grams) of chia seeds provides nearly 10 grams of fiber, which promotes regular bowel movements, feeds beneficial gut bacteria, and helps prevent constipation. [1, 2]
    • Heart and Cardiovascular Support: Rich in alpha-linolenic acid (ALA)—an essential plant-based omega-3 fatty acid—chia seeds can help lower blood pressure, reduce triglycerides, and improve cholesterol profiles. [1, 2, 3]
    • Blood Sugar Regulation: The combination of soluble fiber and protein slows down carbohydrate digestion, preventing sharp blood sugar spikes after meals. [1, 2]
    • Weight Management: When soaked in liquid, chia seeds absorb up to 10 to 12 times their weight in water. The resulting gel expands in the stomach, increasing feelings of fullness and curbing appetite. [1, 2, 3]
    • Bone Strength: They contain high levels of calcium, magnesium, and phosphorus, which are vital for maintaining bone density. [1, 2, 3]
    • Antioxidant Protection: Compounds like chlorogenic acid and caffeic acid help fight cellular damage from free radicals and reduce chronic inflammation. [1, 2, 3]
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I've always been super interested in things space related so this is a pretty cool event coming up. Nov 18, 2026 early in the morning, Voyager 1 will reach the distance of one full light day from Earth. Took almost 50 yrs. I was 13 when it launched.


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So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
Bruce
So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
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So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
Thanks for that info. I will mark it on my calendar! 🤣
Jimbo
Will the Jupiter 2 make it in time ....
Stay tuned ...
dishstaller
So, 1/1596th the way to Alpha Centauri (if it were headed that way). 79,800 years to go…
Isn't that insane!!!
To reach the nearest galaxy to ours, at its present speed, will take another 44 billion years.
Jimbo
Isn't that insane!!!
To reach the nearest galaxy to ours, at its present speed, will take another 44 billion years.
Turn the Lights out when you get there.
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