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October 2009 Programming Highlights
*All times listed are Eastern Standard Time
*Please check the complete Program Schedule or HDNet Movies for additional film, dates and times


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-Experience exclusive broadcasts of new films before they hit theaters and DVD

Ong Bak 2: The Beginning
Premieres Wednesday, October 21st at 8:00pm, followed by encore presentations at 10:00pm and 12:00am
Starring Tony Jaa, Primrata Dej-Udom, Sorapong Chatree, Saruya Wongkrachong. Directed by Tony Jaa
Fate determines all creatures. It could take one person's life up to the zenith or down to the nadir of the abyss.
As the life of "Tien" (Tony Jaa), a boy who aspires to grow up to be like his father, Lord Sihadecho, a gallant a
loyal warrior who would sacrifice his life to serve and to protect the monarchy and the country from corruptors
and traitors.
Tragically, Tien's life is devastated by the greatest loss of his life. The treacherous and power-craving Lord
Rajasena plots to seize total control of the country. He sends out vicious assassins to murder Lord
Sihadecho's family and his loyal soldiers. The only survivor from this massacre is Tien, who manages to
escape with deep vengeance in his heart.

The House of the Devil
Premieres Wednesday, October 28th at 8:00pm, followed by encore presentations at 9:45pm and 11:30pm
THE HOUSE OF THE DEVIL is writer-director Ti Wests 80s-period horror-thriller starring Jocelin Donahue (JT Pettys forthcoming THE BURROWERS), mumblecore ingénue Greta Gerwig (HANNAH TAKES THE STAIRS, BAGHEAD), Tom Noonan (SNOW ANGELS, MANHUNTER), Mary Woronov (EATING RAOUL, THE DEVILS REJECTS), AJ Bowen (THE SIGNAL) and Dee Wallace (E.T., Rob Zombies HALLOWEEN).
Donahue plays Sam, an attractive, broke college sophomore who answers an ad seeking a baby-sitter and ends up in a bloody fight for her life. Noonan and Woronov play Mr. and Mrs. Ulman, the couple that lures Sam into the house of the title just in time for a total lunar eclipse; Gerwig plays Sams best friend Megan, while Bowen plays the Ulmans murderous son. Wallace makes a cameo as Sams landlady.

SPOTLIGHT FEATURES
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Highlighted feature films airing on HDNet Movies
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Basic
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premieres Thursday, October 1st at 8:15pm
Starring John Travolta, Samuel L. Jackson, Connie Nielsen. Directed by John McTiernan

Blade Runner (Director's Cut)
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Saturday, October 10th at 8:00pm
Starring Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer, Sean Young. Directed by Ridley Scott
Academy Award nominations for Best Art Direction-Set Decoration and Best Visual Effects Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Original Score – Motion Picture

A Few Good Men
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premieres Saturday, October 17th at 8:05pm
Starring Tom Cruise, Jack Nicholson, Demi Moore. Directed by Rob Reiner
Academy Award nomination for Best Picture, Best Film Editing, Best Actor in a Supporting Role: Jack Nicholson and Best Sound
Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Motion Picture Drama, Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture: Tom Cruise, Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role: Jack Nicholson, Best Director and Best Screenplay

Frantic
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premieres Saturday, October 10th at 10:00pm
Starring Harrison Ford, Betty Buckley, Emmanuelle Seigner. Directed by Roman Polanski

Hotel Rwanda
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premieres Tuesday, October 13th at 8:05pm
Starring Don Cheadle, Nick Nolte, Sophie Okonedo. Directed by Terry George
Academy Award nomination for Best Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role: Don Cheadle, Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role: Sophie Okonedo and Best Original Screenplay Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture – Drama, Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture: Don Cheadle and Best Original Song

Midnight Run
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Thursday, October 1st at 10:00pm
Starring Robert De Niro, Charles Grodin, John Ashton. Directed by Martin Brest
Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture – Drama and Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture: Robert De Niro

Oubreak
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premieres Friday, October 2nd at 8:00pm
Starring Dustin Hoffman, Rene Russo, Morgan Freeman. Directed by Wolfgang Peterson

The Searchers
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Saturday, October 3rd at 7:00pm
Starring John Wayne, Jeffrey Hunter, Vera Miles. Directed by John Ford
Shanghai Noon – premieres Saturday, October 24th at 8:00pm
Starring Owen Wilson, Jackie Chan, Lucy Liu. Directed by Tom Dey

Unforgiven
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Saturday, October 3rd at 9:00pm
Starring Clint Eastwood, Gene Hackman, Morgan Freeman. Directed by Clint Eastwood Academy Award winner for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Film Editing, Best Actor in a Supporting Role: Gene Hackman Academy Award nominations for Best Actor: Clint Eastwood, Best Cinematography, Best Art Direction-Set Decoration, Best Sound and Best Writing Golden Globe Award winner for Best Motion Picture Director: Clint Eastwood and Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role: Gene Hackman Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture – Drama and Best Screenplay – Motion Picture

PROGRAM SPECIALS
Halloween Fright Fest

Blade 2: Bloodhunt
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Saturday, October 31st at 8:00pm
Starring Wesley Snipes, Kris Kristofferson, Ron Perlman. Directed by Guillermo del Toro

Wes Craven Presents Dracula III: Legacy
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premieres Saturday, October 31st at 10:00pm
Starring Jason Scott Lee, Jason London, Roy Scheider. Directed by Patrick Lussier
Nightmare on Elm Street – Saturday, October 31st at 11:30pm
Starring Robert Englund, Ronee Blakey, Heather Lagenkamp. Directed by Wes Craven

Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors
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late night Saturday, October 31st at 1:05am
Starring Patricia Arquette, Robert Englund, Heather Lagenkamp. Directed by Chuck Russell

HIGH DEFINITION PREMIERES
– Films broadcast in High Definition for the first time on television
See program schedule or HDNet Movies for complete listings of dates and times


American Heart
Starring Jeff Bridges, Edward Furlong, Lucinda Jenney. Directed by Martin Bell

Green Dragon
Starring Patrick Swayze, Forest Whitaker, Don Duong. Directed by Timothy Linh Bui

The House of the Devil
Starring Jocelin Donahue, Greta Gerwig, Tom Noonan. Directed by Ti West

Infernal Affairs
Starring Tony Leung, Andy Lau, Anthony Wong. Directed by Andrew Lau

Live Wire

Starring Pierce Brosnan, Ron Silver, Ben Cross. Directed by Christian Duguay

On the Waterfront

Starring Marlon Brando, Karl Malden, Lee J. Cobb. Directed by Elia Kazan
Academy Award winner for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor in a Leading Role: Marlon Brando, Best Art Direction- Set Decoration, Best Cinematography, Best Film Editing, Best Actress in a Supporting Role: Eva Marie Saint, Best
Writing Academy Award nominations for Best Music, Best Actor in a Supporting Role: Lee J. Cobb, Best Actor in a Supporting Role: Karl Malden, Best Actor in a Supporting Role: Rod Steiger Golden Globe Award winner for Best Motion Picture – Drama, Best Motion Picture Director, Best Motion Picture Actor: Marlon Brando and Best Cinematography

Ong Bak 2: The Beginning
Starring Tony Jaa, Sorapong Chatree, Saruya Wongkrachong. Directed by Tony Jaa

The Way We Were

Starring Barbra Streisand, Robert Redford, Bradford Dillman. Directed by Sydney Pollack
Academy Award winner for Best Original Dramatic Score and Best Original Song
Academy Award nominations for Best Art Direction-Set Decoration, Best Costume Design, Best Cinematography and Best Actress in a Leading Role: Barbra Streisand Golden Globe Award winner for Best Original Song
Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Motion Picture Actress: Barbra Streisand

Wes Craven Presents Dracula III: Legacy
Starring Jason Scott Lee, Jason London, Roy Scheider. Directed by Patrick Lussier

Whale Rider
Starring Keisha Castle-Hughes, Rawiri Paratene, Vicky Haughton. Directed by Niki Caro
Academy Award nomination for Best Actress in a Leading Role: Keisha Castle-Hughes

NATIONAL FILM REGISTRY
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HDNet Movies presents American Films selected by the Library of Congress for historical and
cultural preservation. For more information on film preservation, visit National Film Preservation Board (Library of Congress) and National Film Preservation Foundation
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Blade Runner
Starring Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer, Sean Young. Directed by Ridley Scott
Academy Award nominations for Best Art Direction-Set Decoration and Best Visual Effects Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Original Score – Motion Picture

Blazing Saddles

Starring Gene Wilder, Cleavon Little, Slim Pickens. Directed by Mel Brooks
Academy Award nomination for Best Film Editing, Best Actress in a Supporting Role: Madeline Kahn, Best Original Song

Bullitt
Starring Steve McQueen, Robert Vaughn, Jacqueline Bisset. Directed by Peter Yates
Academy Award winner for Best Film Editing Academy Award nomination for Best Sound

Deliverance

Starring Jon Voight, Burt Reynolds, Ned Beatty. Directed by John Boorman
Academy Award nominations for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Film Editing
Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture – Drama, Best Motion Picture Director, Best Screenplay, Best Original Song, Best Motion Picture Actor: Jon Voight

Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
Starring Peter Sellers, George C. Scott, Sterling Hayden. Directed by Stanley Kubrick
Academy Award nominations for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Writing and Best Actor: Peter Sellers

Giant

Starring Elizabeth Taylor, Rock Hudson, James Dean. Directed by George Stevens
Academy Award winner for Best Director Academy Award nominations for Best Picture, Best Actor: James Dean, Best Actor: Rock Hudson, Best Writing,
Best Film Editing, Best Art Direction-Set Decoration, Best Costume Design, Best Actress in a Supporting Role: Mercedes McCambridge, and Best Music
Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture – Drama and Best Motion Picture Director

The Searchers

Starring John Wayne, Jeffrey Hunter, Vera Miles. Directed by John Ford
Unforgiven
Starring Clint Eastwood, Gene Hackman, Morgan Freeman. Directed by Clint Eastwood Academy Award winner for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Film Editing, Best Actor in a Supporting Role: Gene Hackman Academy Award nominations for Best Actor: Clint Eastwood, Best Cinematography, Best Art Direction-Set Decoration, Best Sound and Best Writing
Golden Globe Award winner for Best Motion Picture Director: Clint Eastwood and Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role: Gene Hackman
Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture – Drama and Best Screenplay – Motion Picture

In Retro
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Memorable Classic movies airing Sunday Nights

THX 1138
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Sunday, October 4th at 8:00pm
Starring Robert Duvall, Donald Pleasence, Don Pedro Colley. Directed by George Lucas

Blade Runner (Director's Cut)
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Sunday, October 4th at 9:30pm
Starring Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer, Sean Young. Directed by Ridley Scott
Academy Award nominations for Best Art Direction-Set Decoration and Best Visual Effects Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Original Score – Motion Picture

Blazing Saddles
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Sunday, October 11th at 8:05pm
Starring Gene Wilder, Cleavon Little, Slim Pickens. Directed by Mel Brooks
Academy Award nomination for Best Film Editing, Best Actress in a Supporting Role: Madeline Kahn, Best Original Song

Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
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Sunday, October 11th at 9:45pm
Starring Peter Sellers, George C. Scott, Sterling Hayden. Directed by Stanley Kubrick
Academy Award nominations for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Writing and Best Actor: Peter Sellers

On the Waterfront
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premieres Sunday, October 18th at 6:05pm
Starring Marlon Brando, Karl Malden, Lee J. Cobb. Directed by Elia Kazan
Academy Award winner for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor in a Leading Role: Marlon Brando, Best Art Direction- Set Decoration, Best Cinematography, Best Film Editing, Best Actress in a Supporting Role: Eva Marie Saint, Best
Writing Academy Award nominations for Best Music, Best Actor in a Supporting Role: Lee J. Cobb, Best Actor in a Supporting Role: Karl Malden, Best Actor in a Supporting Role: Rod Steiger Golden Globe Award winner for Best Motion Picture – Drama, Best Motion Picture Director, Best Motion Picture Actor: Marlon Brando and Best Cinematography

Papillon
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Sunday, October 18th at 8:00pm
Starring Steve McQueen, Dustin Hoffman, Victor Jory. Directed by Franklin Schaffner
Academy Award nomination for Best Original Dramatic Score
Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Motion Picture Actor: Steve McQueen

Bullitt
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Sunday, October 18th at 10:30pm
Starring Steve McQueen, Robert Vaughn, Jacqueline Bisset. Directed by Peter Yates
Academy Award winner for Best Film Editing Academy Award nomination for Best Sound

The Searchers
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Sunday, October 25th at 8:05pm
Starring John Wayne, Jeffrey Hunter, Vera Miles. Directed by John Ford
The Professionals – Sunday, October 25th at 10:05pm
Starring Burt Lancaster, Lee Marvin, Robert Ryan. Directed by Richard Brooks
Academy Award nominations for Best Director, Best Cinematography and Best Writing Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture – Drama and Most Promising Newcomer: Marie Gomez

ART HOUSE CINEMA
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Independent films, foreign films and documentaries
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21 Grams
Starring Sean Penn, Naomi Watts, Benicio Del Toro. Directed by Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu
Academy Award nominations for Best Actor in a Supporting Role: Benicio Del Toro and Best Actress in a Leading Role: Naomi Watts

The Crossing Guard
Starring Jack Nicholson, David Morse, Angelica Huston. Directed by Sean Penn
Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role: Angelica Huston

Dogtown and Z Boys
Documentary featuring Jay Adams, Tony Alva, Tony Hawk. Narrated by Sean Penn. Directed by Stacy Peralta

Hero

Starring Jet Li, Tony Leung Chiu Wai, Maggie Cheung Man-Yuk. Directed by Zhang Yimou
Academy Award nomination for Best Foreign Language Film, China
Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Foreign Language Film, China

Infernal Affairs
Starring Tony Leung, Andy Lau, Anthony Wong. Directed by Andrew Lau

Like Water for Chocolate
Starring Lumi Cavazos, Regina Torne, Marco Leonardi. Directed by Alfonso Arau
Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Foreign Language Film

Mexico Memento
Starring Guy Pearce, Carrie-Ann Moss, Joe Pantoliano. Directed by Christopher Nolan
Academy Award nominations for Best Editing and Best Writing

The Sea Inside
Starring Javier Bardem, Belen Rueda, Lola Duenas. Directed by Alejandro Amenabar
Academy Award winner for Best Foreign Language Film, Spain
Academy Award nomination for Best Achievement in Makeup
Golden Globe Award winner for Best Foreign Language Film
Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture – Drama: Javier Bardem

Raise the Red Lantern

Starring Gong Li, Ma Jingwu, He Caifei. Directed by Zhang Yimou
Academy Award nomination for Best Foreign Language Film

Whale Rider
Starring Keisha Castle-Hughes, Rawiri Paratene, Vicky Haughton. Directed by Niki Caro
Academy Award nomination for Best Actress in a Leading Role: Keisha Castle-Hughes

Wonderland

Starring Val Kilmer, Kate Bosworth, Lisa Kudrow. Directed by James Cox

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kstuart
Highly Recommended:

- Blade Runner: Director's Cut
- Blade II (for an entertaining action flick)
- Deliverance (a classic psychological tension thriller by a master director - you will see why most references to the word "banjo" are actually in connection with this movie)
- Infernal Affairs (gripping cop/gangster film, remade as The Departed, considered to be even better than the highly regarded remake(
- Hero (beautifully photographed/acted/directed thoughtful martial arts period film by same guy who did the Beijing Olympics Ceremonies)
- The Searchers (simply a classic must-see in the western genre, looks great in HD)
- THX1138 (student film by George Lucas that became an instant classic in the genre of "how society could become unavoidably something that no one wants")

PS Ong Bak was a great Bruce-Lee-style Thai martial arts movie, so I plan to record Ong Bak 2 and see if it lives up to the level of its predecessor.
dfergie
Ong Bak 2 trailer... HD-Trailers.net - Ong Bak 2
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
Anony55
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
It hasn't changed. When I cancelled my service the other day, they told me I didn't need to return the receiver (which I already knew because I purchased it).

But in addition to that, the young man told me not to sell it, but to take it to a recycling place. The reason he gave for the advice was because 211Ks can no longer be activated.

So as far as the VIP211k goes... once grandpa dies, he's dead.
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They tell you to trash it and not to sell simply because they're phasing them out, not particularly because someone might be "confused" into buying it and not be able to activate. They tell people that in every case where they're not acting to get a box back, either from a replacement or service cancel.
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Corrado
Although my VIP211K hasn't been subscribed or connected to a dish in probably 5 years since canceling service, my 1 TB HDD full of programming still works fine.

Upon occasion I power it up to watch something I recorded as far back as 2010. The last time I had it going in September it even let me rescan the local OTA channels which I think it refused at some earlier time. I will use it until the day it fails but this topic makes me think some software download is responsible for current subscribers.
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zippyfrog
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Has anyone subscribed to NBA League Pass for 2026-27 and try to link their account to NBA.com to stream League Pass? I purchased it for 2026-27, and when I linked, I got a message saying success, but then I receive an error that my linked subscription does not include the preseason games for NBA League Pass. Is that how it has always been? I know satellite doesn't have the preseason games on the NBA League Pass channels, but I thought that I was able to stream the preseason once I linked my account on NBA.com?
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zippyfrog
I found my answer...when I log into the NBA app on my phone and try to watch, it gives me a more clear answer that it acknowledges I have paid for NBA League Pass from Dish and it is linked, but I need an "upgraded" subscription to League Pass for the preseason games. So I guess it is by design that Dish does not show the preseason games on League pass and that the contract Dish has signed for league pass is explicitly for the regular season games. (I know the description for League Pass says regular season games, but I thought that was only by satellite and the preseason would have worked)
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I plan on doing what I did last season. I ordered the more expensive arena feed version from the NBA website. It's worth it because you get to watch what's going on in the arena instead of just staring at the ad break slide on the Dish version. The main advantage to ordering from the website is you can go on a month by month basis and cancel if you get tired of it.
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Ramy
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
AZ.
AZ.
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
Jimbo
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
AZ.
AZ.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
Jimbo
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...
Edit, Bama plays 4, Georgia plays 3, But Ole Miss plays 5 (didn't expect to see that)

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.
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Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?
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Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?
Seeing theres very little activity in the MLB threads, it wouldn't matter if I posted that the Astros didn't make the Playoffs ...

Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.
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Jimbo
IF they go to 24 teams, and it looks like they will soon ....
Do we Really want Teams with 3 and 4 losses in the Playoffs ?
Is a 3-4 Loss team one thats able to win 4-5 more games against Top teams ?
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One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.
A 12 team playoff net should catch any undefeated team. The 12 team playoff also exposed that rankings suck. I mean, we kind of knew already that the rankings weren't particularly reproducible, but we now have the empirical evidence that the rankings suck because judging who is the best among a mickey mouse scheduled football season isn't a rational endeavor. So the 12 team playoff ensures most teams that should make it, do, including the mid-major undefeated team. 8 teams should be able to work as well, but puts greater risk at OSU and Alabama missing the playoff... can't have that.

Which is the run up to my main problem with the 24 team set up is that it is designed to keep the OSU's and Alabama's from missing the playoff. The cartels are ensuring widespread participation for their own cartels to increase the monetary reward to themselves. It is fixing the system while not fixing the outcomes, merely making the regular season game outcomes virtually irrelevant. Sure, a bye for winning the conference would be nice, but we've already seen that byes aren't that influential.
We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
That is college football in a nutshell. Again, college football isn't about competition, it is about revenue. The entire setup is about making money, from regular season squash games against local jobbers like the WWF days to tax exempt bowl games.

And to add to the first world woes, the college football cartels have made being a College Football fan even more expensive... so they can get paid more.
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meStevo
Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one 🤣
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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
Foxbat
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
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WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
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wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
OMG to freaking funny :biggrin
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

Not likely since that place closed down.
Foxbat
Not likely since that place closed down.
You're no fun.😑
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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dishstaller
I really dislike change for the sake of change
dishdude
I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"
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"Big salary." Charlie. "?Big?"
Tampa8
Seems in some ways better. Nicer layout, as others said maybe cleaner. Moving ahead in the guide is better.
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Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
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Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
ncted
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
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apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
ncted
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
I assume you mean services, like iCloud and Apple Music, and not actual software sales. Services have been growing quickly for Apple, but hardware still brings home the bacon. As for where Apple's revenue comes from, the iPhone is still king with 49.58% of revenue as of June 2026. Services comes in second with 28%. iPad, Mac, and Wearables/Home makes up the rest. So, that is 72% coming from hardware. Their profit margin is around 25%, FWIW.

I am skeptical the AppleTV 4k makes them much money on the hardware though, which I suspect is what you were getting at.
ncted
What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
You should have looked in the APP STORE instead. ;)
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Will do!