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1) Is the approach to MRV to have one DVR interlinked with multiple separate tuner-only set-top boxes located in other rooms?

2) If so, is the driving reason behind this that separate tuners would be significantly less expensive than the alternative of putting DVRs in other rooms?

3) Or, is the driving reason to enable TVs that have their own built-in tuners to be able to communicate with the single DVR?

What I'm thinking is: Hardware eventually becomes cheaper over time, and sooner or later, I'd expect every set-top box to have a DVR in it.

I'm not all that knowledgeable about this topic, though. . .I welcome any thoughts you may have on this.
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I suspect that the model is to eventually have one big box with lots of tuners and storage, and small inexpensive set top boxes spread around the house.

The problem with a dvr in every box is that you have to run a coaxial cable to all of them, they make noise, they're sensitive to heat and vibration, and they're more failure prone than a simple STB like a Roku player.

So directv can solve the problem with a big box with one coax wire coming into it and going to the dish, and powerline or wireless networking from that to a series of stb's.

Its cheap, easy to install, easy to fix, and unless the big main box goes out, its pretty fault tolerant. You could fix some of the fault concerns in the main box by putting in a pair of mirrored 1tb drives and having a red light "I need a new drive, call for service" indicator if one goes out. Past that, some level of fault monitoring to measure power supply, fan speeds, etc would solve most other pending failures before they happen. All pretty standard stuff for many years now in a run-of-the-mill PC.

I can actually see a DLNA equipped television set being able to play shows from a central dvr without a set top box.

Certainly the ability for the boxes to talk to each other wirelessly, via powerline networking or via coaxial networking (MOCA or DECA) is there today, even without a customers network being involved. My two dvr's have a wire between them, nothing else. Works fine.
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I think that wear the Coax eithernet adapters ome in for the swm setup.

as a easy way to network dvrs for mvr
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No Network?

I suspect that the model is to eventually have one big box with lots of tuners and storage, and small inexpensive set top boxes spread around the house.

The problem with a dvr in every box is that you have to run a coaxial cable to all of them, they make noise, they're sensitive to heat and vibration, and they're more failure prone than a simple STB like a Roku player.

So directv can solve the problem with a big box with one coax wire coming into it and going to the dish, and powerline or wireless networking from that to a series of stb's.

Its cheap, easy to install, easy to fix, and unless the big main box goes out, its pretty fault tolerant. You could fix some of the fault concerns in the main box by putting in a pair of mirrored 1tb drives and having a red light "I need a new drive, call for service" indicator if one goes out. Past that, some level of fault monitoring to measure power supply, fan speeds, etc would solve most other pending failures before they happen. All pretty standard stuff for many years now in a run-of-the-mill PC.

I can actually see a DLNA equipped television set being able to play shows from a central dvr without a set top box.

Certainly the ability for the boxes to talk to each other wirelessly, via powerline networking or via coaxial networking (MOCA or DECA) is there today, even without a customers network being involved. My two dvr's have a wire between them, nothing else. Works fine.

So you can get the MRV working without a Network connection? You're only hardware connection is Cat 5 between the DVR's and you can get MRV to work?
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So you can get the MRV working without a Network connection? You're only hardware connection is Cat 5 between the DVR's and you can get MRV to work?


Yes, that can be done provided the boxes are loaded with MRV supported CE software (x353 to 35f for HD DVRs). If the boxes don't discover themselves, they would need unique IP addresses setup under advanced network setup with the same subnet; I hear the 169.x.x.x series addresses will work but they would not work for INTERNET connection.

Keyword search BRINGMRVBACK should get it started if all else is connected and working. Network should show connected in your more info tab (hold info button down >5 seconds).
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Yep it works. If you leave it like it is, after the DHCP piece times out the boxes will start asking if there is anyone else on the network and configure themselves to a 169.x.x.x address and start talking directly. I found that takes too long so in advanced settings I manually configured them to 192.1.1.100 and 192.1.1.101 and set the dns and default gateway to 192.1.1.1, which doesnt exist, then plugged them together. Blam, it works.

On the receivers that have two active network ports (not the hr20-100), you can daisy chain them one to the next to the next and from what I hear that works fine. One end of the chain can be plugged into a switch or router and they'll all talk through each other. Traffic is switched in the box (not routed, as far as I know) so if you've got three of these daisy chained together with the last one hooked to your home network, the traffic on the wire between the boxes becomes additive, so I wouldnt recommend daisy chaining for more than 3 receivers.
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Yep it works. If you leave it like it is, after the DHCP piece times out the boxes will start asking if there is anyone else on the network and configure themselves to a 169.x.x.x address and start talking directly. I found that takes too long so in advanced settings I manually configured them to 192.1.1.100 and 192.1.1.101 and set the dns and default gateway to 192.1.1.1, which doesnt exist, then plugged them together. Blam, it works.

On the receivers that have two active network ports (not the hr20-100), you can daisy chain them one to the next to the next and from what I hear that works fine. One end of the chain can be plugged into a switch or router and they'll all talk through each other. Traffic is switched in the box (not routed, as far as I know) so if you've got three of these daisy chained together with the last one hooked to your home network, the traffic on the wire between the boxes becomes additive, so I wouldnt recommend daisy chaining for more than 3 receivers.

Great, because my 2 HR22 DVR's are sitting right next to each other. I don't really care about an internet connection for these. I don't have the software on either one yet though, so I will be anxiously waiting for the next MRV release.
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Not alot of dish customers any more
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I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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I really dislike change for the sake of change
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
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Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
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No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


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BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
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"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
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.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
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Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


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