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hi folks,
I currently have two Tivo Series 3 DVR's with cablecards. I have become completely fed up with SDV, and the blasted Cisco tuning adaptors that lockup, reset, and power off consistently.
I have been researching the two carriers and it seems that Dish has an interface that is closer to Tivo's, and I like their external storage setup.
I have a couple of questions if someone would not mind helping me out.
1. is it possible to control two Dish receivers in the same room(both attached to an AV preamp, going to the same TV). Tivo remotes have a 1/2 switch to allow me to set two Tivo DVRs to diferent freqs. to control both from the same remote witout interfering with each other. How can I do that with Dish?
2. Rain fade. I have read accounts that are a couple of years old that rain and thick clouds cause pixelation and outages just as I experienced a decade or so ago with Direct TV. Is that still the case, with a clear view to the sky?
3. External storage option. I am curious about the manual work required to move programs off the DVR to free up storage. Is there a way to batch move programs over, or programatically instruct programs to copy to the external storage, by retention date, for instance?
4. Also, does playback directly from an external drive work well? I am curious since the connection is only USB 2.0, if the transfer rate is quick enough for smooth playback with HD programs?
5. finally, I assume for HD DVR use I would be getting the DVR612. I have checked everywhere and can't find the back panel layout. I assume they use an HDMI 1.3 connection?
thanks very much for the help with making this decision!
Jeff
I currently have two Tivo Series 3 DVR's with cablecards. I have become completely fed up with SDV, and the blasted Cisco tuning adaptors that lockup, reset, and power off consistently.
I have been researching the two carriers and it seems that Dish has an interface that is closer to Tivo's, and I like their external storage setup.
I have a couple of questions if someone would not mind helping me out.
1. is it possible to control two Dish receivers in the same room(both attached to an AV preamp, going to the same TV). Tivo remotes have a 1/2 switch to allow me to set two Tivo DVRs to diferent freqs. to control both from the same remote witout interfering with each other. How can I do that with Dish?
2. Rain fade. I have read accounts that are a couple of years old that rain and thick clouds cause pixelation and outages just as I experienced a decade or so ago with Direct TV. Is that still the case, with a clear view to the sky?
3. External storage option. I am curious about the manual work required to move programs off the DVR to free up storage. Is there a way to batch move programs over, or programatically instruct programs to copy to the external storage, by retention date, for instance?
4. Also, does playback directly from an external drive work well? I am curious since the connection is only USB 2.0, if the transfer rate is quick enough for smooth playback with HD programs?
5. finally, I assume for HD DVR use I would be getting the DVR612. I have checked everywhere and can't find the back panel layout. I assume they use an HDMI 1.3 connection?
thanks very much for the help with making this decision!
Jeff
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1) I'm pretty sure that you can program the AUX button on the Dish remote to control a second address; never tried it myself, but that's what I'd read about in the manuals.
2) Rain fade in the Western Arc happens very rarely. You're in Columbus, so you could wind up with Western or Eastern Arc service. The weather has to be BAD for a properly-installed 1000.2 dish to fade out. If you don't mind spending money, there are ways to further discourage it, too, by buying your own dishes and a multiswitch.
3) You can also tell your timer to record to external automatically, can't you?
4) Full HDTV (MPEG2) is 19Mbit/sec; typical Dish HD bitrates (MPEG4) are less than half that. USB 2.0 is 480Mbit/sec, so it can theoretically support...25 concurrent HD I/O streams.
5) A pair of 621s will fit your needs nicely, but a 722 and a 621 or a pair of 722s would give you a LOT more flexibility.
2) Rain fade in the Western Arc happens very rarely. You're in Columbus, so you could wind up with Western or Eastern Arc service. The weather has to be BAD for a properly-installed 1000.2 dish to fade out. If you don't mind spending money, there are ways to further discourage it, too, by buying your own dishes and a multiswitch.
3) You can also tell your timer to record to external automatically, can't you?
4) Full HDTV (MPEG2) is 19Mbit/sec; typical Dish HD bitrates (MPEG4) are less than half that. USB 2.0 is 480Mbit/sec, so it can theoretically support...25 concurrent HD I/O streams.
5) A pair of 621s will fit your needs nicely, but a 722 and a 621 or a pair of 722s would give you a LOT more flexibility.
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In response to number 3:
If there is a way I haven't found it and I've looked all through the manual and the user interface.
1) I'm pretty sure that you can program the AUX button on the Dish remote to control a second address; never tried it myself, but that's what I'd read about in the manuals.
2) Rain fade in the Western Arc happens very rarely. You're in Columbus, so you could wind up with Western or Eastern Arc service. The weather has to be BAD for a properly-installed 1000.2 dish to fade out. If you don't mind spending money, there are ways to further discourage it, too, by buying your own dishes and a multiswitch.
3) You can also tell your timer to record to external automatically, can't you?
4) Full HDTV (MPEG2) is 19Mbit/sec; typical Dish HD bitrates (MPEG4) are less than half that. USB 2.0 is 480Mbit/sec, so it can theoretically support...25 concurrent HD I/O streams.
5) A pair of 621s will fit your needs nicely, but a 722 and a 621 or a pair of 722s would give you a LOT more flexibility.
In response to number 3:
If there is a way I haven't found it and I've looked all through the manual and the user interface.
N
1) I'm pretty sure that you can program the AUX button on the Dish remote to control a second address; never tried it myself, but that's what I'd read about in the manuals.
Yes that does work
2) Rain fade in the Western Arc happens very rarely. You're in Columbus, so you could wind up with Western or Eastern Arc service. The weather has to be BAD for a properly-installed 1000.2 dish to fade out. If you don't mind spending money, there are ways to further discourage it, too, by buying your own dishes and a multiswitch.
3) You can also tell your timer to record to external automatically, can't you?
That option is only for recording to the PocketDISH
4) Full HDTV (MPEG2) is 19Mbit/sec; typical Dish HD bitrates (MPEG4) are less than half that. USB 2.0 is 480Mbit/sec, so it can theoretically support...25 concurrent HD I/O streams.
5) A pair of 621s will fit your needs nicely, but a 722 and a 621 or a pair of 722s would give you a LOT more flexibility.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one
Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll callThey ought to have fun with this…
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A continuation of a thread from the pub, just general discussion of AI.
Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.
View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k
We've literally got a movie already about this
View: https://youtu.be/a2PW7a9ViDc
Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.
View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k
We've literally got a movie already about this
View: https://youtu.be/a2PW7a9ViDc
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AI Agent Blamed for Deleting Entire Upcoming Season of TV Show
An AI agent reportedly deleted the entire final cut of the upcoming season of a Swedish reality competition show.
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I was watching some of this guy's stuff and realized some of you may not be familiar. Basically his show is Candid Camera meets a magician. This is a comp of a few of his exploits. I first learned of him when I was out at a meeting in Denver about 10yrs ago. The men I was sitting at the table with started talking about this show and said it was one of the funniest things they had seen. When I got home I started watching it....yes, it is funny.
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This started a couple months ago. I have 2 H3s on one network, both with 2 EHD identical 3 TB seperately powered so all recordings are accessible by all 4k & J4s (8 of them).
On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
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Thanks JohnGalt1234 - That's interesting. I wonder are the Boot Strap versions different between a Hopper 3 only and a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup as I have the later. I guess when charlesrshell is able to since he has both setups, he can do the test. Unless the bootstrap version is tied to when the specific Hopper 3 is manufactured, in my case, mines is from February 2016 when it was installed.
At least Google Search AI is saying the bootstrap version will never change and unique to each Hopper 3.
This is probably why different people seem to either have the issue or they don't because the bootstrap code could also be tied to the hardware revision and
components other than the internal HD.
At least Google Search AI is saying the bootstrap version will never change and unique to each Hopper 3.
This is probably why different people seem to either have the issue or they don't because the bootstrap code could also be tied to the hardware revision and
components other than the internal HD.
JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?
This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?
This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
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Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8
Understanding the TPN Map
Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Tony as the director.
Would you rather have LaRoche ???Tony as the director.
No. Bring in someone new.
Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...No. Bring in someone new.
Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)
Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.
Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.
It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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Please post your remote make/model here and any details of your issue. We are looking to collect as many examples as possible. I may reach out to you for your receiver number, but please do not post it here.
If you've already reported this to me, please repost it here so I can track all instances in one thread.
Thanks!
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If you've already reported this to me, please repost it here so I can track all instances in one thread.
Thanks!
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I was having similar issues last night while watching and recording the NLCS game on 148. When I tried resuming the game at one point the screen went blank and I couldn't get my H3 to respond to any remote commands. Eventually the Hopper went to a HD channel but still no remote response. After a while the Hopper went into a re-boot cycle. This happened at least 3 times. I was using an IR universal remote only.
A little frustrating to have the game broken up like that but at least the Brewers won
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Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...
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