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Ghpr13
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Iceberg said I should have posted this in the FTA forum, so:

This might be a little OT but I've always wonder how those great big "screen-like" antennas I see in some yards get their signals from? T
here's a few houses I pass on the way to church that have these great, big (about 8' in diameter), black, see-through, dish-shaped antennas, and I just have always wonder what they were for and how do you use them...No one on my block has one or I would just walk over and ask them about it. Do they have to go through E* or D* too?
I remember years back (about 30 or 35) when I lived in Chicago, my friend's Dad, who lived in Kentucky, had one, but I never knew if he had to pay a provider for the signal, or just purchase the receiver and programing was free. Also, I remember my friend telling me that when they watched certain programs like Johnny Carson & live sporting events, they seen what was going on while broadcast TV showed commercials...I never witness this myself, so I always wonder if this was true.

Can any "Old Pros" out there set me straight on this?
Ghpr13:)
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whatchel1
C-band mostly

Iceberg said I should have posted this in the FTA forum, so:

This might be a little OT but I've always wonder how those great big "screen-like" antennas I see in some yards get their signals from? T
here's a few houses I pass on the way to church that have these great, big (about 8' in diameter), black, see-through, dish-shaped antennas, and I just have always wonder what they were for and how do you use them...No one on my block has one or I would just walk over and ask them about it. Do they have to go through E* or D* too?
I remember years back (about 30 or 35) when I lived in Chicago, my friend's Dad, who lived in Kentucky, had one, but I never knew if he had to pay a provider for the signal, or just purchase the receiver and programing was free. Also, I remember my friend telling me that when they watched certain programs like Johnny Carson & live sporting events, they seen what was going on while broadcast TV showed commercials...I never witness this myself, so I always wonder if this was true.

Can any "Old Pros" out there set me straight on this?
Ghpr13:)

The 7.5 to 10 ft size dishes are mostly C-band. Some will have Ku-band added to them. I would say most likely the majority no longer work. C-band was the first direct to home sat systems. C-band is still the way that cable co's get their programming. Yep I'm in this forum also as well as Iceberg.
Ghpr13
The 7.5 to 10 ft size dishes are mostly C-band. Some will have Ku-band added to them. I would say most likely the majority no longer work. C-band was the first direct to home sat systems. C-band is still the way that cable co's get their programming. Yep I'm in this forum also as well as Iceberg.

Whatchel1,
Thanks. I had wonder about that because we are close to where all of Insight's (the cable co.) antennas are located and they looked a lot like the ones I have seen in yards, only solid not meshed, and painted white.

So would C-band allow someone to see "commercial free" TV like my friend told me about?
Thanks, again.
Ghpr13:)
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Iceberg said I should have posted this in the FTA forum, so:

"This might be a little OT but I've always wonder how those great big "screen-like" antennas I see in some yards get their signals from?"


BUD -- Big Ugly Dish. C band satellite. I had a 12.5 foot Janiel Darkstar with a Drake ESR 240 back in the mid 80's. The dish receives the signal from the satellite and reflects it to the rotator and amp/converter in the center pod.
At microwave frequencies, the mesh appears to be a solid surface. The actual antenna is a microwave probe about the size of a quarter. If you see one with a smaller mesh in the center, that's an early C-KU band dish.

"I remember years back (about 30 or 35) when I lived in Chicago, my friend's Dad, who lived in Kentucky, had one, but I never knew if he had to pay a provider for the signal, or just purchase the receiver and programing was free. Also, I remember my friend telling me that when they watched certain programs like Johnny Carson & live sporting events, they seen what was going on while broadcast TV showed commercials...I never witness this myself, so I always wonder if this was true."

At one time, HBO, Showtime and most other channels were in the clear. All the networks had several feeds, some scheduled, some random. It was fun to see the reporters fawn over some sleazebag during the intro and then say what they really thought about them during the break. I was especially fond of the Canadian channels. Ah the good times!!! There was always something interesting to watch.

Then the info-mercials started followed shortly by wide spread scrambling. By the 90's, cable came to many areas and the C-band viewing choices were not worth the price to most people. I sold my home in 92 and that is the last C-band dish I've owned. I currently have a KU dish that until recently was locked on Whitesprings TV. I hope they come back on soon.

Regards,

KaptainKlock
Anole
yep: satellite TV

A lot of the guys use their big dishes for C-band (3.5 - 4 ghz) and Ku band (11 - 12 ghz) as well.
To see how popular they still are (at least with us), take a look in our C-band forum department for a thread on Adventures in Dish Hunting 2009.
It's got several hundred posts; just scroll through it and look at the pictures.

All of what we receive is free programming, much of it not intended for direct home viewing, but not scrambled.
There is a pay-service called 4DTV on C-band, and it has its own forum department, if you are interested.

If you want to get involved, you can purchase a large dish of 8 - 12 feet diameter.
You can have 'em installed, or do it yourself.
Most of us find unused dishes, get them for next to nothing, and install 'em ourselves.
We then refurbish them, outfit 'em with the latest LNBs and motors, and restore them to their former glory. - :up

In the years since those big dishes were the rage (C-band), higher frequency satellites have been deployed. (Ku band)
They can be received on 3' dishes; motors are small, light, 'n cheap.
The small dishes only receive the higher frequencies, while the big dishes can be rigged for both bands.

Our Gold Sponsors (links at the top of every page) provide entire packages for Ku band, including dishes, motors, LNBs, and receivers.
One of those could be a nice introduction package for you, if interested in the satellite hobby.

This forum is full of ideas and helpful people, who'll assist you in getting to know the hobby, and building up or installing just about anything you can imagine. - :cool:

edit:
I just read your post.
In the Adventures thread above, I posted some pictures of a small cable head end, with all their solid dishes behind barbed wire. :)
whatchel1
OMG

Iceberg said I should have posted this in the FTA forum, so:
BUD -- Big Ugly Dish. C band satellite. I had a 12.5 foot Janiel Darkstar with a Drake ESR 240 back in the mid 80's. The dish receives the signal from the satellite and reflects it to the rotator and amp/converter in the center pod.
At microwave frequencies, the mesh appears to be a solid surface. The actual antenna is a microwave probe about the size of a quarter. If you see one with a smaller mesh in the center, that's an early C-KU band dish.


"I remember years back (about 30 or 35) when I lived in Chicago, my friend's Dad, who lived in Kentucky, had one, but I never knew if he had to pay a provider for the signal, or just purchase the receiver and programing was free. Also, I remember my friend telling me that when they watched certain programs like Johnny Carson & live sporting events, they seen what was going on while broadcast TV showed commercials...I never witness this myself, so I always wonder if this was true."[/QUOTE]

You just made shutter from the mention of the Janiel DS. Those things warped if you looked at them crosseyed seemed like.

Yes it was true it was being feed to net live a 4 PM. After NBC found out that people were watching the "shenanigans" during the breaks they didn't feed it w/o it having been edited with black (or fade to black) in the commercial sections.

[/QUOTE]At one time, HBO, Showtime and most other channels were in the clear. All the networks had several feeds, some scheduled, some random. It was fun to see the reporters fawn over some sleazebag during the intro and then say what they really thought about them during the break. I was especially fond of the Canadian channels. Ah the good times!!! There was always something interesting to watch.
[/QUOTE]

Yes when I started there was no such thing as a scrambled signal. There were only a few "cable" channels back then. Even worked with a sat guide company to provide them with a huge wild feed section for them for a while.
Ghpr13
Whatchel1, Anole, & KaptainKlock,
Once again I have learned so much from Satellite Guys' members. I want to thank you 3 for clearing up something that has bugged me for years. It was just one of those things that I always said I was going to look into but never did. I would just file it away until the next time I seen a "BUD", but as soon as I got home I'd forget all about it.
Anyway, I found all 3 of the replies very interesting and I thank you for filling me in!
Take care,
Ghpr13:)

SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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dishdude
They didn't sell many, they were pricey and not out long. Quickly got replaced by the Hopper.
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They were high-end specialty, somewhat buggy and the 612/622/722 just overwhelmed it in popularity.
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HipKat
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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AZ.
Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
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teachsac
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.


View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/b0gPzA8KHEQ
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Pass,
K
Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.
teachsac
Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.
Scott Greczkowski
Wife likes it.
Former member 208119
Last reply · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio
My year was almost up and we got the new bill for a year of service for $ 360.00 insane sat radio is becoming like cable!!! i logged into my acct and hopped onto chat and told the rep that i wanted to cancel. she understood my concern and went quiet for a few minutes. i figured that she was canceling my service. she comes back and said that she seen that i have been a sub since 07 and then offers me the same package for a year for 120.00 with taxes and fee's!!! i grabbed it. after almost having a stroke :biggrin
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What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $4.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
Jimbo
What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
B
Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
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I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
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I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
Jimbo
yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
You get an email every month to let you know they are billing you for the next month.
Foxbat
Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango💃🏽

The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
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Jimbo
Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango💃🏽

The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
I forgot you can pay that with Ford Pass points, I won't be due again till Feb, but I'll have to remember to try it ... Not sure what needs to be done, but I do have a substantial amount of points currently.
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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You Look Like You Love Me - Ella Langley
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See Me Feel Me - The Who
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Take It Easy On Me - Little River Band
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TAKE IT As It Comes-The Doors
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
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jamieh1
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
The new curated multiview is now live.
While on many of the sports channels and non sports channels there is a multi view option button. It will pull up a side bar with many different multi view options.
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K
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
b4pjoe
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
But not on the only device they ship out right now which is the Gemini Air.
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TheRatPatrol
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
How soon will it be available on Apple TV? Thanks
I WANT MORE
But not on the only device they ship out right now which is the Gemini Air.
It's on my Air's.
b4pjoe
It's on my Air's.
The post read: "currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen". It didn't mention the Air. I suppose when it said Geminis it meant both but I had no way of knowing that.
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Hopefully soon for fire stick too
Peter Parker
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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bookworm370
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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Bobby
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
This has been an ongoing issue. A fix is coming, probably in the next software version.
Foxbat
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Here's the one I need:
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dishstaller
Here's the one I need:
Just ordered one....that's great.
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
dishstaller
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

Last night it was about $4.17 gas, $6,19 diesel.
harshness
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.
On the West Coast, a 40-cent differential is common. It used to be 30 cents before the prices rose above $3.

A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic), which is a whole different discussion.
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Here in Indiana, the difference between Regular and Premium is usually a dollar, but some charge even more:
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A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic),
Both non-ethanol and prem run about the same....buck more. When we were up in TN it was a buck more up there as well.
jokeworm
Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
Ok, I'm bored .... actually - to be more precise - I'm bored of eating the same rotation of 9 or 10 meals that are currently my "go-to" meals. My wife works the long hours - I work from home as and when i feel like it ... which means i generally do most of the cooking ... and so by default - i also make out the shopping list ...

We cook at home 5 or even 6 nights a week - but we always seem to fall back on the same old tried and tested "quick and easy but tastes ok" meals. Week in week out.

Pot Roast - mash and Peas.
Spaghetti
Chicken Pasta in cheese sauce.
Curry & rice
(these are some of mine)

Now it's not that I'm not adventurous in the kitchen ... I'll try anything once or twice ... but we all do it. Unless your name is Martha Stewart or Rachel Ray .. we all eventually fall back on our 8-10 favorite "meals"

So i thought - if we shared some of our own go-to meals with each other ... we might be able to add a few "new" ones to our own arsenal of meals.

So again - I ask you ...

What's for dinner tonight ?

Please give me something new to add to my rotation ... its our weekly shop tomorrow - so i want to pull together a few idea's and try and eat a meal each day next week that I've never had before .. or at least something that is not on my current "go-to" meal plan.

What meal do you always seem to fall back on in your house ? Maybe its something that I've never tried or not had in a while. I need inspiration !! I've got a blank shopping list in front of me - and nothing sounds good .. HELP !
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TRG
Beef and vegetable stew with buttermilk biscuits. Water.
It seemed appropriate on an unusually cold and wet evening in New Mexico.
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Chili Cheesebugers, Tater Tots.
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TRG
I made shrimp parmesan with spaghetti and a salad.
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venison lasagna
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Smoked some salmon on the grill while enjoying some Blue Moon beer. Kinda cool tonight so I fired up the heaters. Here in FL, we fire up heaters once the temps get below 60 :cool As for the salmon, I seared them first, then flipped them off to the side not over the coals and brushed on some lemon pepper marinade followed by some salmon seasoning. Threw some hickory chips on the coals and then closed the vents to about 10% airflow. Yum.
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