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My favorite satellite has become AMC-21 at 125W--ever since the Galaxy 18 offerings at 123W shrunk down to nothing. The problem is that I am only getting 3 channels on AMC-21. According to the list at FTAList.com - AMC 21 Channel List I should be getting the following:

Create TV 12180-V 30000 193 196 PBSC
Montana Legislature 11959-H 2532 33 38
Montana PBS 12103-V 4340 33 38 KUFM
PBS 12180-V 30000 177 180 PBS-X
PBS HD 12140-V 30000 49 52 PBSEHD
PBS HD 2 12140-V 30000 65 68 PBSDT-W
PBS HD 3 12179-V 30000 49 52
PBS World 12180-V 30000 225 228 WGBXDT2
WSEE CBS Erie PA 12004-H 4691 308 256 WSEE
V-Me 12180-V 30000 209 212 V-ME

I do pick up

Create TV (PBSC)
V-Me
PBS World

without any trouble. They come in clearly. I also get two more that don't seem to be on this list and are always off the air:

PBS NOC HD01 12180-V 30000
PBS NOC SD01 12180-V 30000

Sometimes I have picked up

Montana PBS (KUFM)

I don't seem to be able to pick up the other six:

Montana Legislature
PBS (PBS-X)
PBS HD (PBSEHD)
PBS HD 2 (PBSDT-W)
PBS HD 3
WSEE CBS Erie, Pa.

ever. Is this normal? My motorized FTA system does fine with other satellites from my location in W.Va. I have read conflicting reports about this satellite. Some say it is really at 124.9W. Others say the dish must be nudged west a little. I should add that there is a tree to the right of the line-of-sight that looks like it partially blocks the signal. Can I rule it out though since I can pick up White Springs TV at 129W?

Thanks in advance.

Jaco
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Here is another thought....and it has to do with our dish size

Just ran a test of signals depending on which TP I peaked 125 on. The issue we have is 2 signals on 125 have another TP of same info (or close) next door
PBS HD (12140 V 30000) has a data TP with the same info at 127W
WSEE (12004 H) there is a TP that is strong on 12005 H next door on 123W

Since my dish was peaked on WSEE almost all the PBS stations didnt even lock a signal. The only ones I locked were
Montana PBS
Montana Leg (TVMT)
Main PBS TP (12180)
WSEE (12004)

none of the rest I could lock. So I moved the dish a little east which dropped WSEE down but the rest came up. Here is what I showed on the azbox
12072 LPB (DVB-S2) 52
12180 PBS 83
12095 PBS feed 57
12104 Montana 76
12140 PBS HD 56
12150 PBS HD Feed 54
12163 PBS feed 58
12169 PBS feed 63
12175 PBS feed 53

now if I peaked the dish on the 12140 TP then I get the following results
12072 LPB (DVB-S2) 52
12180 PBS 83
12095 PBS feed 63
12104 Montana 76
12140 PBS HD 58
12150 PBS HD Feed 49
12163 PBS feed 53
12169 PBS feed 59
12175 PBS feed 51

This is all on a 76cm Winegard dish/Sadoun dual .4 LNB

If I had a bigger dish I could get better results. Later on I'll try the 36" dish I have. The key thing is with the PBS HD feed you need to reject the signal from next door at 127W. Bigger dish will help with that. I know when I had my 1.2m dish at 125W all the signals were very strong. All were maxed but 12140 which was at 75-80 quality on the Pansat 1500. Conversely right now 12140 on that Pansat reads at 55

You have to remember PBS has their affiliates use probably 15 foot dishes so they can reject the adjacent sats just fine (and they probably dont care about WSEE either) ;)
B.J.
Since I've moved it to where it isn't looking through trees, my 90CM primestar does a nice job on AMC21. I get all the channels people talk about, including the DVB-S2 from La (except when it's raining heavily), and I get a lock on the IP/DVB transponder when it's up, 12 transponders lock fine {actually 13 including one strange one that gave signal lock but not data lock}. My 90CM Fortec doesn't do quite as good a job (8 of the 12 transponders), but it is really a bit smaller than 90CM (ie the advertised size is really an exaggeration), however it is looking through tree limbs, and not quite all the leaves are gone yet (oak leaves are still hanging on a bit). The Fortec gets the main transponders fine (140, 180, 150, etc, but not the DVB-S2, and a couple of the weaker DVB-S transponders. But I expect some of the missing transponders to come back in a week or so when the oak leaves finally are gone completely. A month ago, the Fortec didn't get ANY channels on 125.
So anyway, I don't think you need a 1M on 125. A good 90CM will get all the channels discussed here, and even a fair 90CM will get most of them.
emuman100
It PBS broadcasting DVB-S2 data on 12120H?
B.J.
It PBS broadcasting DVB-S2 data on 12120H?

I think that's where they're experimenting with their IP/DVB data type delivery. My TT3200 is too tone deaf for me to be able to look at it with TSREADER, although it did lock once, and it WAS data. My Diamond 9000 locks it easily though, but of course doesn't find any A/V channels on the mux.
guapoharry
Here is another thought....and it has to do with our dish size

Just ran a test of signals depending on which TP I peaked 125 on. The issue we have is 2 signals on 125 have another TP of same info (or close) next door
PBS HD (12140 V 30000) has a data TP with the same info at 127W
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If I had a bigger dish I could get better results. Later on I'll try the 36" dish I have. The key thing is with the PBS HD feed you need to reject the signal from next door at 127W. Bigger dish will help with that. I know when I had my 1.2m dish at 125W all the signals were very strong. All were maxed but 12140 which was at 75-80 quality on the Pansat 1500. Conversely right now 12140 on that Pansat reads at 55

You have to remember PBS has their affiliates use probably 15 foot dishes so they can reject the adjacent sats just fine (and they probably dont care about WSEE either) ;)


The trouble everyone has with 12140V is caused by that damn Hughesnet 12140V 30000 transponder at 127W. The only solution to this problem is a bigger dish. All I watch are the HD feeds on 12140V. I have a 90cm Prodelin and 12140V comes in weaker than others like 12104V and 12180V, but I am able to get it for the most part. The only time I lose it is when the picket fence the dish is mounted on moves slightly and knocks it out of alignment. Attached are BER graphs from a Sci Atl D9850. ....

I missed this the last time, but those BER graphs are excellent! Considering that they were generated from RRDtool, they must come from data over the ethernet network from that receiver. That's the difference between professional gear and the consumer stuff I own.... I wonder... Does the Azbox do this too? Don't believe it has a SNMP service....

Anyway....

I had problems with 12140 on 125ºW again last night. On a dish with the HD receiver where it had been working fine, the SQ was down in the dirt... I forgot about this issue.

But on the dish with the SD receiver, 12140 came in fine. So, I watched the HD program on the Skywalker slaved to that receiver while fiddling around with the HD receiver settings.

I got 12140 back after steering the dish east, -- away from the Hughes data transponder on 127ºW, which is not surprising after re-reading this thread.

Could this situation be improved by changing one of the adjacent 12140 transponders from V to H polarity? (Theoretically)
M
Could this situation be improved by changing one of the adjacent 12140 transponders from V to H polarity? (Theoretically)

that would be nice if they would. But since PBS is using probably 20 foot dishes they can reject adjacent sat interference ;)
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Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.

Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.

You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.



View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4


Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.


View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ
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Oooo, quite the show now. All three vents have doming and overflows. The cone that built up around the North vent lost its upper quarter at 02:50 Oct 17 and is now spewing lava at a healthy rate. Don't know if I would say it's a fountain, but it's close.


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edit: The USGS has called the official start of Episode 55 as starting at 03:19 HST Oct 17, 2026:

Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-10-17 13:43:56 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice

Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)

Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE

Issued: Saturday, October 17, 2026, 3:43 AM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H488
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii

Summary: Episode 55 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Volcanic Activity:
Episode 55 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Fountain heights are relatively low at about 100-150 feet (30-45 m), and it is not clear whether this episode will evolve to the same heights as previous episodes. Continuous overflows from the vents began yesterday, October 16, just before 6 a.m. HST and transitioned into episode 55 fountains at 3:19 a.m. HST this morning. The current forecast is for winds are blowing from the north-northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the south-southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.
  • All eruptive vents and lava flows are confined to Halemaʻumaʻu crater within Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park. Tephra fall from volcanic ash clouds is greatest within 3 miles (5 km) of the vents, lighter ash and Pele's Hair may stay suspended for large distances from the vents.
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Kīlauea seems to be returning to the "normal" eruption script, impressive fountaining from the North Vent. For once, the V2 Cam has the best overall shot:
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The lava flows have covered a good portion of the Halemaʻumaʻu crater floor.
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Since it was already "paid" for, I spent the two hours of my time watching the John Cena action movie on Apple TV, "Matchbox The Movie" even though the reviews were brutal. It was better than I expected, so I didn't feel like I had wasted an afternoon watching it. But it felt like another "Reacher"/"Neghley"/"Mission: Impossible"/"Fast & Furious" crash and blow stuff up with lots of automatic gunfire mixed in movie featuring covert CIA operatives.

I don't think we'll get a follow-up movie from this. I expect Mattel will have other toy lines to exploit.
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Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.
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Egg, sausage and cheese sandwich between bread toasted in butter in skillet... Chocolate milk.
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Egg, sausage and cheese sandwich between bread toasted in butter in skillet... Chocolate milk.
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Wound up at the Waffle House this morning. Got the two egg breakfast with coffee.

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Speaking of waffles, I'm going to put my mini waffle iron on stove so I'll remember to make waffles in the morning... Had some last week, been awhile.
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Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...
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Bob Evans Sage.
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Bob Evans Sage.
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
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Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)
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I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
amazon maybe :what
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I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!
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Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)
id'e rather make my own vs store bought.
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owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!
Especially when I can get a two pound roll of Jimmy Dean from Sam's Club for $7.38.
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They run Owens at $3.99 for lb and $7.99 a couple times a month at some grocery stores here, I actually was wrong, just checked a pork sirloin roast it was $1.99 a lb. (cooked it yesterday so pack was in trash)
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
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No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
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I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
I'm curious how they are going to implement Tony into Origins (If they do) ...
Tony was introduced to Gibbs and the team, on NCIS, which makes it the Mothership side of things, he worked in Baltimore prior to NCIS, NO mention when they met that anyone had known one another ...