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New Linux based STB AZBox is raising in popularity in NA. N3 implementation left many FTA fans without new toys, as local demand and supply of quality new STBs dropped drastically. Becoming a sat fan requires in-depth knowledge, skills and plenty of time, hence retirees are often on a forefront of this demanding hobby. Sadly, many of these good people are not adept in HTPC building complexities and other PC based solutions, requiring PCI or USB Sat. TV tuners to watch FTA. Hence interest to a Linux based STB, which combines traditional look and feel with a lot more challenging feature set. On top, its perceived to be a European made brand, developed for NA market and imported from Europe to NA. Some former sat pirates coming to FTA camp and getting gradually involved with the hobby, and Sat. TV enthusiasts and feed catchers also seems to show interest in AZBox. Other FTA fans, mostly interested in ethnic or religious programming, may be less inclined to select and learn this more complex and expensive STB, delivering features they won't use anyway.
Among others, I get curious enough about the phenomenon and the 1st popular Linux STB behind it to ask a question: Who's behind AZBox, who developed the STB, who makes it, improves its firmware, delivers it to us? As always, the "delivery boy" tries to hide his product sources, so the excurse below is expected to be incomplete, and needs your factual input and commentary.
IPTV and networked Media Players become very popular and in huge demand in recent years. South Korean company Celrun quickly became the leader in fast growing IPTV Media Player field due to super fast internet access in SK, delivering Telco grade equipment and solutions. Celrun offers a series of very sophisticated and highly popular IPTV STBs to end users. One of the most bright among them was Linux based TD9000 now superseded by TD920H. Celrun developed attractive and convenient GUI (Graphical User Interface), making the Linux based STB user friendly and feature reach.
"With this leading technology, Celrun delivered its end-to-end solution for SK Broad&TV (formerly hanaTV) which is the first commercially deployed IPTV/VOD service by SK Broadband (formerly hanaro telecom), the 2nd largest telecom operator in Korea. SK Broadband has been delivering high quality content to huge number of IPTV/VOD subscribers within the very short time which is regarded as new outstanding record in IPTV history all over the world. This record-breaking success is based on CelrunTV solution, the robust end-to-end IPTV solution powered by Celrun."
Another SK company DGStation decided to partner and capitalize on Celrun's success by adding Sat TV and OTA reception capabilities to Celrun's TD9000. They partially redesigned TD9000 for hardware expandability, like adding new tuners as they become available, or a SATA hard drive for high bitrate recording. Initially it was planned to bring the new model series under Relook 5000+ and Relook 500 labels, exported by DGStation to Europe via a Luxemburg based GT-Sat company, known for its excellent LNBF models (see GT-Sat's Relook Specs attached). However, a newly created Portugal company OpenSat offered DGStation a better deal, and started importing two OEM Relook models from DGStation under AZBox Premium and Elite labels to Europe and Latin America. The deal with GT-Sat was scrapped, Relook label buried, and DGStation offered the same model under their own label Cube Revo with a modified faceplate. They keep developing new tuner models and hardware upgrades for both brands. Celrun continues to enrich its Linux GUI functionality, resulting in frequent firmware updates for AZBox line.
Exyusat Forum citation:
"TD9000 is discontinued product and is the base of Azbox, however they are very different HW. But some part of our software is protected under NDA agreement and we cannot open source, however we will try to prepare a pack of drivers that allow people to make their own sw and interface.
Best regards,
Hugo Condessa
OpenSAT, Lda. – C.E.O.
T: +351.251.656.134
F: +351.251.652.966
E: hugo@opensat.eu
A: Edifício Opensat, Lagoa, 4950-283 Mazedo MNÇ, PORTUGAL"
Satclones site posted an interesting review of AZBox Premium HD capabilities, which can be translated to English with Google Translate, and confirms AZBox is the CelrunTV's model derivative. At present AZBox DVB-S2 tuner is based on Connexant CX24116 Demodulator, which doesn't have a blindscan circuitry, hence there will be no hardware supported blindscan, until a newer DVB-S2 NIM tuner model is ever offered and driver support developed for its blindscan features, if any. Software routing based blindscan would be very slow with Sigma proc. to make sense implementing. Blindscan feature is not of high priority in Europe, and AZBox doesn't comply with NA certification requirements anyway, plus NA true FTA market capacity is quite limited, so its the lowest priority task on their agenda. AZBox employs SIGMA Processor SMP 8634, controlled by Linux Kernel 2.6.15 (Sigma-Arch) via CelrunTV developed GUI, accessible by a user with Remote Control.
Despite becoming a sole AZBox distributor, newly created OpenSat didn't have money to bring to Europe enough STBs due to fast growing model popularity, and even less funds to implement locally required firmware upgrades or US market required hardware changes, such as adding an OTA Tuner or blindscan circuitry. They partnered with UAI Inc. - the Dubai company with solid financial backing and branches in USA and Lebanon, the owner of SonySat STB brand based on IBM PowerPC STB chip series - to co-develop and jointly market their STBs in NA and LA. As part of the deal, AZBox STB will be sold through SonySat distributors in NA, once its models design complies with NA legal requirements. It can also be sold in NA under SonySat label with a different faceplate in parallel.
Ecoustics Forum:
"Sonysat & Opensat "Azbox" are working together to release the best HD STB on market.
Sonysat & Azbox will be Celebrating the launch for :
Sonysat DCR5500 Conexant CPU 216MHZ
Sonysat DGR3000 Gouxin 6102 212MHZ
Sonysat DSR6200 IBMPPC palas 450 HDMI
Azbox HD Premium Sigma Design CPU
Azbox HD Elite Sigma Design CPU
Visit us at 2009 International CES, Booth: South 2 26516".
Due to fast growing demand for AZBox and bigger STB shipments required, production has been moved from an OEM partner facility in SK to China, and currently carried by Shenzhen Dongsi Technology Co. AZBox brand owner small Portugal company OpenSat continues to be primarily a master distributor of this DGStation's STB, but is also getting involved in driver development for new AZBox Tuner models, Linux GUI add-ons, faceplate re-design for new models, and some AZBox hardware changes to accommodate locally required upgrades and bug fixes.
That's about it for now, when it comes to AZBox. Do you know more about the company behind this label, or want to correct anything you perceived as inaccurate? You're welcome to offer your own version of facts about AZBox origin in this thread. Don't forget to add solid weblinks as your reference sources to avoid looking misinformed. :up
Among others, I get curious enough about the phenomenon and the 1st popular Linux STB behind it to ask a question: Who's behind AZBox, who developed the STB, who makes it, improves its firmware, delivers it to us? As always, the "delivery boy" tries to hide his product sources, so the excurse below is expected to be incomplete, and needs your factual input and commentary.
IPTV and networked Media Players become very popular and in huge demand in recent years. South Korean company Celrun quickly became the leader in fast growing IPTV Media Player field due to super fast internet access in SK, delivering Telco grade equipment and solutions. Celrun offers a series of very sophisticated and highly popular IPTV STBs to end users. One of the most bright among them was Linux based TD9000 now superseded by TD920H. Celrun developed attractive and convenient GUI (Graphical User Interface), making the Linux based STB user friendly and feature reach.
"With this leading technology, Celrun delivered its end-to-end solution for SK Broad&TV (formerly hanaTV) which is the first commercially deployed IPTV/VOD service by SK Broadband (formerly hanaro telecom), the 2nd largest telecom operator in Korea. SK Broadband has been delivering high quality content to huge number of IPTV/VOD subscribers within the very short time which is regarded as new outstanding record in IPTV history all over the world. This record-breaking success is based on CelrunTV solution, the robust end-to-end IPTV solution powered by Celrun."
Another SK company DGStation decided to partner and capitalize on Celrun's success by adding Sat TV and OTA reception capabilities to Celrun's TD9000. They partially redesigned TD9000 for hardware expandability, like adding new tuners as they become available, or a SATA hard drive for high bitrate recording. Initially it was planned to bring the new model series under Relook 5000+ and Relook 500 labels, exported by DGStation to Europe via a Luxemburg based GT-Sat company, known for its excellent LNBF models (see GT-Sat's Relook Specs attached). However, a newly created Portugal company OpenSat offered DGStation a better deal, and started importing two OEM Relook models from DGStation under AZBox Premium and Elite labels to Europe and Latin America. The deal with GT-Sat was scrapped, Relook label buried, and DGStation offered the same model under their own label Cube Revo with a modified faceplate. They keep developing new tuner models and hardware upgrades for both brands. Celrun continues to enrich its Linux GUI functionality, resulting in frequent firmware updates for AZBox line.
Exyusat Forum citation:
"TD9000 is discontinued product and is the base of Azbox, however they are very different HW. But some part of our software is protected under NDA agreement and we cannot open source, however we will try to prepare a pack of drivers that allow people to make their own sw and interface.
Best regards,
Hugo Condessa
OpenSAT, Lda. – C.E.O.
T: +351.251.656.134
F: +351.251.652.966
E: hugo@opensat.eu
A: Edifício Opensat, Lagoa, 4950-283 Mazedo MNÇ, PORTUGAL"
Satclones site posted an interesting review of AZBox Premium HD capabilities, which can be translated to English with Google Translate, and confirms AZBox is the CelrunTV's model derivative. At present AZBox DVB-S2 tuner is based on Connexant CX24116 Demodulator, which doesn't have a blindscan circuitry, hence there will be no hardware supported blindscan, until a newer DVB-S2 NIM tuner model is ever offered and driver support developed for its blindscan features, if any. Software routing based blindscan would be very slow with Sigma proc. to make sense implementing. Blindscan feature is not of high priority in Europe, and AZBox doesn't comply with NA certification requirements anyway, plus NA true FTA market capacity is quite limited, so its the lowest priority task on their agenda. AZBox employs SIGMA Processor SMP 8634, controlled by Linux Kernel 2.6.15 (Sigma-Arch) via CelrunTV developed GUI, accessible by a user with Remote Control.
Despite becoming a sole AZBox distributor, newly created OpenSat didn't have money to bring to Europe enough STBs due to fast growing model popularity, and even less funds to implement locally required firmware upgrades or US market required hardware changes, such as adding an OTA Tuner or blindscan circuitry. They partnered with UAI Inc. - the Dubai company with solid financial backing and branches in USA and Lebanon, the owner of SonySat STB brand based on IBM PowerPC STB chip series - to co-develop and jointly market their STBs in NA and LA. As part of the deal, AZBox STB will be sold through SonySat distributors in NA, once its models design complies with NA legal requirements. It can also be sold in NA under SonySat label with a different faceplate in parallel.
Ecoustics Forum:
"Sonysat & Opensat "Azbox" are working together to release the best HD STB on market.
Sonysat & Azbox will be Celebrating the launch for :
Sonysat DCR5500 Conexant CPU 216MHZ
Sonysat DGR3000 Gouxin 6102 212MHZ
Sonysat DSR6200 IBMPPC palas 450 HDMI
Azbox HD Premium Sigma Design CPU
Azbox HD Elite Sigma Design CPU
Visit us at 2009 International CES, Booth: South 2 26516".
Due to fast growing demand for AZBox and bigger STB shipments required, production has been moved from an OEM partner facility in SK to China, and currently carried by Shenzhen Dongsi Technology Co. AZBox brand owner small Portugal company OpenSat continues to be primarily a master distributor of this DGStation's STB, but is also getting involved in driver development for new AZBox Tuner models, Linux GUI add-ons, faceplate re-design for new models, and some AZBox hardware changes to accommodate locally required upgrades and bug fixes.
That's about it for now, when it comes to AZBox. Do you know more about the company behind this label, or want to correct anything you perceived as inaccurate? You're welcome to offer your own version of facts about AZBox origin in this thread. Don't forget to add solid weblinks as your reference sources to avoid looking misinformed.
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We may disagree on that, but I wouldn't say anything in absolute terms.
Once you install an appropriate codec, decoding 4:2:2 on a PC with an average proc. power and supporting MPEG decoding in hardware low cost graphics card is not a problem using a decent Sat PC Card, ensuring stable signal reception. AZBox pandemic has everything to do with true FTA fans desire to experiment with new challenging toys. From that point some people, not really involved with the hobby, just follow massive response from FTA fans on forums like this. However, AZBox sales will hardly reach the scale here, other known receivers did for better or worse. That's unfortunate, since the box is really up to the task at the moment. But other Korean Linux boxes are coming soon to NA with similar or improved functionality, its a common trend nowadays. It started from small pioneer STB design firms, and now has gone to mass volume production with major player.
Ice, thanks for noting that. Though drop in FTA equipment demand affected every legit. STB importer in NA, thus delaying new STB introduction with advanced features like 4:2:2, etc. Similar concerns were voiced many times on this forum. I'm surprised, this is the only thing, you managed to notice about the report.
Btw, based on European forum reports, OpenSat is not a stranger to supporting "3-d party" coders, and digging into non-standard modulations, so I wouldn't be that idealistic about this brand.
For those who still wonder what 4:2:2 Chroma Subsampling is, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4:2:2"][I][U]this[/U][/ Wiki article will certainly help.
"Because of storage and transmission limitations, there is always a desire to reduce (or compress) the signal. Since the human visual system is much more sensitive to variations in brightness than color, a video system can be optimized by devoting more bandwidth to the luma component (usually denoted Y'), than to the color difference components Cb and Cr. The 4:2:2 Y'CbCr scheme for example requires two-thirds the bandwidth of (4:4:4) R'G'B'. This reduction results in almost no visual difference as perceived by the viewer.
Currently variants of 4:2:0 chroma configuration are found in all versions of MPEG, including MPEG-2 implementations such as DVD (although some profiles of MPEG-4 allow higher-quality sampling schemes such as 4:4:4)."
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I hope they come out with a ASTC tuner for it too......but I'd take blind scan first....
I hope they come out with a ASTC tuner for it too......but I'd take blind scan first....
My year was almost up and we got the new bill for a year of service for $ 360.00 insane sat radio is becoming like cable!!! i logged into my acct and hopped onto chat and told the rep that i wanted to cancel. she understood my concern and went quiet for a few minutes. i figured that she was canceling my service. she comes back and said that she seen that i have been a sub since 07 and then offers me the same package for a year for 120.00 with taxes and fee's!!! i grabbed it. after almost having a stroke 
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Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy
Ethanol Free Stations
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy
Ethanol Free Stations
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Here in Indiana, the difference between Regular and Premium is usually a dollar, but some charge even more:
Ok, I'm bored .... actually - to be more precise - I'm bored of eating the same rotation of 9 or 10 meals that are currently my "go-to" meals. My wife works the long hours - I work from home as and when i feel like it ... which means i generally do most of the cooking ... and so by default - i also make out the shopping list ...
We cook at home 5 or even 6 nights a week - but we always seem to fall back on the same old tried and tested "quick and easy but tastes ok" meals. Week in week out.
Pot Roast - mash and Peas.
Spaghetti
Chicken Pasta in cheese sauce.
Curry & rice
(these are some of mine)
Now it's not that I'm not adventurous in the kitchen ... I'll try anything once or twice ... but we all do it. Unless your name is Martha Stewart or Rachel Ray .. we all eventually fall back on our 8-10 favorite "meals"
So i thought - if we shared some of our own go-to meals with each other ... we might be able to add a few "new" ones to our own arsenal of meals.
So again - I ask you ...
What's for dinner tonight ?
Please give me something new to add to my rotation ... its our weekly shop tomorrow - so i want to pull together a few idea's and try and eat a meal each day next week that I've never had before .. or at least something that is not on my current "go-to" meal plan.
What meal do you always seem to fall back on in your house ? Maybe its something that I've never tried or not had in a while. I need inspiration !! I've got a blank shopping list in front of me - and nothing sounds good .. HELP !
We cook at home 5 or even 6 nights a week - but we always seem to fall back on the same old tried and tested "quick and easy but tastes ok" meals. Week in week out.
Pot Roast - mash and Peas.
Spaghetti
Chicken Pasta in cheese sauce.
Curry & rice
(these are some of mine)
Now it's not that I'm not adventurous in the kitchen ... I'll try anything once or twice ... but we all do it. Unless your name is Martha Stewart or Rachel Ray .. we all eventually fall back on our 8-10 favorite "meals"
So i thought - if we shared some of our own go-to meals with each other ... we might be able to add a few "new" ones to our own arsenal of meals.
So again - I ask you ...
What's for dinner tonight ?
Please give me something new to add to my rotation ... its our weekly shop tomorrow - so i want to pull together a few idea's and try and eat a meal each day next week that I've never had before .. or at least something that is not on my current "go-to" meal plan.
What meal do you always seem to fall back on in your house ? Maybe its something that I've never tried or not had in a while. I need inspiration !! I've got a blank shopping list in front of me - and nothing sounds good .. HELP !
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Smoked some salmon on the grill while enjoying some Blue Moon beer. Kinda cool tonight so I fired up the heaters. Here in FL, we fire up heaters once the temps get below 60 
As for the salmon, I seared them first, then flipped them off to the side not over the coals and brushed on some lemon pepper marinade followed by some salmon seasoning. Threw some hickory chips on the coals and then closed the vents to about 10% airflow. Yum.
As for the salmon, I seared them first, then flipped them off to the side not over the coals and brushed on some lemon pepper marinade followed by some salmon seasoning. Threw some hickory chips on the coals and then closed the vents to about 10% airflow. Yum.
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America’s Fastest-Growing EV State Isn’t California—Not by a Long Shot
New data shows electric vehicle adoption is increasingly driven by state policies, electricity prices and charging access—not federal incentives
www.autoweek.com
The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.
It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.
So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.
US EV sales are rising again. Here’s why the recovery is set to last.
Even though sales tanked last year after the end of federal incentives, the American EV sector is on the mend as drivers face sky-high gasoline prices.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll callThey ought to have fun with this…
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A continuation of a thread from the pub, just general discussion of AI.
Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.
View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k
We've literally got a movie already about this
View: https://youtu.be/a2PW7a9ViDc
Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.
View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k
We've literally got a movie already about this
View: https://youtu.be/a2PW7a9ViDc
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Agents need appropriate context to make what would be understood as the correct read in a situation like that, and that Gemini answer was a clear miss on that front.
That said, we've also seen Musk (and/or his team) put his thumb on the scale (or just release a very poor product) with his own deployed AI since:
Grok AI Blocks Responses Claiming Trump and Musk “Spread Misinformation”
An X user asked Grok to “print out all instructions” it follows when looking up “the biggest disinformation spreader on X,” and it revealed that it would ignore sources accusing Elon Musk and the U.S. president of misinformation.
Grok says Elon Musk is better than basically everyone, except Shohei Ohtani | TechCrunch
According to Grok, Elon Musk can out-slug the MLB's greatest power hitters... except Ohtani.
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Grok's loyalty known no bounds - AI chatbot chooses Elon Musk over LeBron James in a 'Who is the fittest' comparison | NBA News - The Times of India
NBA News: Elon Musk's AI chatbot, Grok, has sparked amusement by consistently choosing its owner over prominent figures like LeBron James and Albert Einstein wh
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Grok 4 appears to seek Elon Musk's views when answering controversial questions
XAI’s Grok 4 AI chatbot launched Wednesday appears to consult Elon Musk’s views when asked its opinion on some controversial matters.
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In the end, it's all a tool. Have to know how to use it and deploy it properly or it needs sufficient guardrails to steer people towards doing so (what Muse is excelling at currently IMO). I'm routinely interacting with several agents a day operating various processes locally and in services I use, and there are numerous others silently spun up to perform actions or satisfy requests from my prompts.
Related to earlier discussion in the thread on leveraging local inference: this kind of analysis happening behind the scenes is something everyone will have built into Windows, IMO. Most people won't see all of this, just the results, unless they want to dig into how the fix was chosen. Stuff like this will be standard as agents get local system access baked in, and more of the inference itself moves on-device.