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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Jan 3, 2010 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Pricing Update

As you might have seen on the homepage, today in my MultiChannel column I posted a rumor about Dishes new pricing which is effective on February 1st.

It appears that the numbers I posted in my column are indeed correct, I have been contacted by a number of Dish employees confirming what I wrote.

You can read what I wrote at Rumor Alert: New Dish Pricing? - The Satellite Dish | Blog on Multichannel News

There has been some confusion though about the new monthly receiver pricing and if that pricing was per receiver or per account. A number of people claiming to be Dish folks wrote me to tell me that it is per receiver. But they also tried telling me that most folks bill won't go up much if anything at all.

One employee explained it best so I am going to cut and paste that persons explanation to me so that everyone has a better understanding of whats going on.

You are correct in some fashion about the receiver fees but they are eliminating or rolling other fees into one. But it will increase some bills and decrease some depending on what they have for programming and type of receiver family they fall into.

For example in your case with 6 duo dvrs you would be charged 17.00 per additional receiver so it would be 17.00 x 5. But you would eliminate five of your dvr fee so you would subtract 5.98 x 5. Plus you would eliminate your other five A/O fees so that would subtract another 25.00 or 30.00. So your bill will be one of the extreme ones that goes up around 30.00 because the average family does not have 6 duo dvr's. Plus if you have any tv2 connection fees those are going away. The receiver fee is only on additional receivers not the primary.

In my case I have 2 duo dvrs so I will be charged one 17.00 fee but I will have one dvr fee eliminated and my a/o fee eliminated and rolled up into the receiver fee so my bill will go up around 6.00.

I should note again that while employees are confirming the new pricing and pricing structure these numbers are not official until announced publiclly by Dish Network.

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Stargazer

Dec 30, 2009

The only difference in the bill should be +$2 for each additional SD receiver / tuner and -$6 for each additional DVR receiver on your account (except those with AEP). I guess we could go through all scenario's (receiver setups and billings) that are possible (up to three receivers to start, someone else can add more scenarios) This only affects those with two or more receivers so that means I will list two or three receivers. #2's don't include MPEG-4 receivers in certain situations because the price increase is not there since they are already at $7 for an additoinal outlet/receiver/tuner fee.

625 = 522, 625
510 - If you replace this with 501/508 then your price remains the same if you already have a DVR on the account that you pay a fee for.
722 = 622, 722
311 = 301, 311, any other single tuner SD non DVR receiver (they are eliminating 301 and legacy receivers due to 8PSK conversion)

TWO RECEIVER SCENARIO'S
-----------------------------------

(A) 1. Solo Receiver (311/211) 2. Solo MPEG-2 Receiver (311)
Increase of $2 (second receiver from $5 to $7)
--GET A 322/222, ELIMINATE THAT FEE

(B) 1. Duo Receiver (625/722/322/222) ANY DUO NON-DVR RECEIVER 2. Solo MPEG-2 Receiver (311)
Increase of $2 (second receiver from $5 to $7)

(C) 1. Solo DVR (510) 2. Solo Receiver (311)
Increase of $2 (second receiver from $5 to $7)

(D) 1. Duo Receiver (322/222) 2. Duo Receiver (322)
Increase of $4 without phone line plugged in
Increase of $2 with phone line plugged in
NO CHANGE IF SECOND RECEIVER IS A 222

(E) 1. Solo DVR (510) 2. Solo DVR (510)
Decrease of $6 (only one $6 per account instead of per receiver)

(F) 1. Duo DVR (625/722) 2. Solo DVR (510)
Decrease of $6 (only one $6 per account instead of per receiver)

(G) 1. Duo DVR (625/722) 2. Duo DVR (625)
Decrease of $4 (Save $6 DVR fee but increase of $2 on additional receiver fee)
Decrease of $2 without phone line plugged in

(H) 1. Duo DVR (625/722) 2. Duo DVR (722)
Decrease of $6 (only one $6 per account instead of per receiver)
Decrease of $4 without phone line plugged in

(I) 1. Duo DVR (625/722) 2. Duo Receiver (322)
Increase of $4 without phone line
Increase of $2 with phone line
No change if you have a 222

THREE RECEIVER SCENARIO'S
-----------------------------------

(J) 1. 625/722 2. 625 3. 625
Decrease $8 if all connected to phone lines
Decrease $6 if one not connected to phone line
Decrease $4 if two not connected to phone lines

(K) 1. 625/722/322 2. 322 3. 322
Increase $8 if none connected to phone lines
Increase $6 if one connected to phone lines
Increase $4 if all connected to phone lines

(L) 1. 625/722 2. 625 3. 322
$2 Decrease if all connected to phone lines
No change if only one is connected to a phone line
$2 Increase if none connected to phone lines

(M) 1. 625/722 2. 625 3. 625
$8 Decrease if all connected to phone lines
$6 Decrease if only one is connected to a phone line
$4 Decrease if none connected to phone lines

(O) 1. 311/322/222 2. 311 3. 311
$4 Increase

(P) 1. 311/322/222 2. 322 3. 311
$4 Increase if all connected to phone lines
$6 Increase if second 322 is not connected to a phone line

Fill in the blanks for the rest of 2 receiver scenario's and to complete 3 receiver scenario's or come up with your simplified / other versions of this.

satjay

Dec 31, 2009

Stargazer said:
The only difference in the bill should be +$2 for each additional SD receiver / tuner and -$6 for each additional DVR receiver on your account (except those with AEP). I guess we could go through all scenario's (receiver setups and billings) that are possible (up to three receivers to start, someone else can add more scenarios) This only affects those with two or more receivers so that means I will list two or three receivers. #2's don't include MPEG-4 receivers in certain situations because the price increase is not there since they are already at $7 for an additoinal outlet/receiver/tuner fee.

625 = 522, 625
510 - If you replace this with 501/508 then your price remains the same if you already have a DVR on the account that you pay a fee for.
722 = 622, 722
311 = 301, 311, any other single tuner SD non DVR receiver (they are eliminating 301 and legacy receivers due to 8PSK conversion)

Great info....But what about someone who has a 722K and a 612, like myself

kluken

Jan 2, 2010

I think the big players to put the squeeze on Disha dn Direct are going to be UVerse and FIOS, Comcast might be able to compete, but until they fix their own issues I think the newer systesm that Verizon and ATT have will have room to grow. My phone line has been the most reliable utility I have had int he 18 years in this house, I don't think I have lost service more than 203 times in 18 years, even in bad snow storm (in ATL that) that knocked power out for 7 hours, I still had phone! I tried cable for 2 weeks and had 4 outages and dumpeed their Internet. If ATT can get bonded pairs up and running to boost the bandwidth I see them going to 4 HD streams and 24Mbs Internet they got me, even 3 HD streams is all I need.

Kheldar

Jan 2, 2010

kluken said:
My phone line has been the most reliable utility I have had int he 18 years in this house, I don't think I have lost service more than 203 times in 18 years, even in bad snow storm (in ATL that) that knocked power out for 7 hours, I still had phone!

Is it safe to assume that you meant 2-3 times? 203 times is almost once per month in 18 years.

scooby2

Jan 2, 2010

kluken said:
I think the big players to put the squeeze on Disha dn Direct are going to be UVerse and FIOS, Comcast might be able to compete, but until they fix their own issues I think the newer systesm that Verizon and ATT have will have room to grow. My phone line has been the most reliable utility I have had int he 18 years in this house, I don't think I have lost service more than 203 times in 18 years, even in bad snow storm (in ATL that) that knocked power out for 7 hours, I still had phone! I tried cable for 2 weeks and had 4 outages and dumpeed their Internet. If ATT can get bonded pairs up and running to boost the bandwidth I see them going to 4 HD streams and 24Mbs Internet they got me, even 3 HD streams is all I need.

There is a huge difference between providing pots and tv/internet. Pots works basically on any copper line no matter how bad the weather or condition of the cable pair. Not so once you start adding DSL (which is what Uverse is) to the picture. VRADs only have so much battery life so do not expect your Uverse phone to still work 7 hours into that power outage even if you have a generator at your house.

Because it is DSL based, Uverse is still distance limited. Over 3k ft from the VRAD means a max of 12mbit internet and 1HD/3SD. Pair bonding may eventually fix this but who knows when or if that will happen. The one thing Pair bonding will not fix is how compressed the Uverse HD is. Anything with quick motion has major pixelation. Its like HD Lite+. In order to allow 1 or 2 HD streams, they have to compress the crap out of it and bit starve it as much as possible.

The dish price increase sucks but its no where near what AT&T has raised their prices over the last 2 years. They seem to get you hooked and then raise prices. Additional receiver prices skyrocketing, movie channel prices increasing, removing channels and putting them in higher tiers, etc. They all do it, its about the lessor of the evils at this point.

That is my two cents as someone that had to deal with Uverse for 1.5 years. Dish HD quality is stunning compared to what Uverse and Comcast offer here.

Scooby

Stargazer

Jan 3, 2010

satjay said:
Stargazer said:

The only difference in the bill should be +$2 for each additional SD receiver / tuner and -$6 for each additional DVR receiver on your account (except those with AEP). I guess we could go through all scenario's (receiver setups and billings) that are possible (up to three receivers to start, someone else can add more scenarios) This only affects those with two or more receivers so that means I will list two or three receivers. #2's don't include MPEG-4 receivers in certain situations because the price increase is not there since they are already at $7 for an additoinal outlet/receiver/tuner fee.

625 = 522, 625
510 - If you replace this with 501/508 then your price remains the same if you already have a DVR on the account that you pay a fee for.
722 = 622, 722
311 = 301, 311, any other single tuner SD non DVR receiver (they are eliminating 301 and legacy receivers due to 8PSK conversion)

Great info....But what about someone who has a 722K and a 612, like myself

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The increase would not apply because those people are already being charged the $7 additional outlet fee, correct? The 612 would equal a 510 and the 722 would equal a 522, 625. if that is the case.

Mike_H

Jan 3, 2010

kluken said:
I think the big players to put the squeeze on Disha dn Direct are going to be UVerse and FIOS, Comcast might be able to compete, but until they fix their own issues I think the newer systesm that Verizon and ATT have will have room to grow. My phone line has been the most reliable utility I have had int he 18 years in this house, I don't think I have lost service more than 203 times in 18 years, even in bad snow storm (in ATL that) that knocked power out for 7 hours, I still had phone! I tried cable for 2 weeks and had 4 outages and dumpeed their Internet. If ATT can get bonded pairs up and running to boost the bandwidth I see them going to 4 HD streams and 24Mbs Internet they got me, even 3 HD streams is all I need.

Unfortunately, UVerse and FIOS have coverage maps similar to AT&T's 3G coverage map. While some of the highest density areas do have such service available to people, a lot of people don't, many of which are Dish Network customers.

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So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

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Another example:

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Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

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Strega said:
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.

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Jimbo said:
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.

I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.

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Mister B said:
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.

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slow_poke_pete said:
can't forget the little blue m&m's

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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink

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That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!

My gf is 29 years younger than me :shh

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long_time_Dish

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Also watched part 2 about a week or so ago after rewatching part 1. It's not as faithful to the book as I was hoping for. Part 1 stayed fairly faithful to the novel, but part 2 took some liberties that I felt were rather excessively non-novel. It looks like a prequel series will happen before part 3. My issue is: there's no prequel that was written as a novel, so what will it be pulled from? Or will it just be "based loosely" on the novel?

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long_time_DNC said:
Also watched part 2 about a week or so ago after rewatching part 1. It's not as faithful to the book as I was hoping for. Part 1 stayed fairly faithful to the novel, but part 2 took some liberties that I felt were rather excessively non-novel. It looks like a prequel series will happen before part 3. My issue is: there's no prequel that was written as a novel, so what will it be pulled from? Or will it just be "based loosely" on the novel?

There is a bunch of other Dune written by Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert (Franks son). I think the series in production is taken from one of their books about the Bene Gesserit.

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klang said:
There is a bunch of other Dune written by Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert (Franks son). I think the series in production is taken from one of their books about the Bene Gesserit.

Correct. I've read all of them (yes, it took awhile, better part of a year, in my spare time). And they can't really consider or classify a series about the Bene Gesserit as a prequel. Sure, I suppose they can call it that, if they want to, because it begins before the time of Paul Atredies, but it's still a stretch. It's a Dune-related novel, not a prequel as we generally think of prequels...

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